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VTEC Toggle Switch Set-Up?


HondaCivic4358
12-15-2003, 07:16 PM
I have a few questions. Well number one, I have heard from a few people that using a toggle switch to run your VTEC is bad, but I have also heard that it will not hurt anything, what is the TRUE answer?
Another question I have is where would you mount your toggle switch? I have heard this is kind of a preference thing but I need some input.
And the third, final, and probably most major question I need to ask is, I have heard that like if you but and RPM activated switch, you can obviously set the RPM but it the VTEC will kick on once you have reached this RPM and it will turn off when you've reached this RPM, So like does that mean that when i hit say 4,800, it will turn on but then when I upshift it will turn off? Because you know that when you downshift and let the clutch out, your RPM's go down, but would they go below 4,800 or whatever your RPM activated switch is set at? I am probably gonna lose some sleep over this for nothing... :banghead:
some help please thanks
Ryan

EF You
12-15-2003, 09:52 PM
hate to tell you, but if you had a stock ECU to control your VTEC, its gonna shut off when you shift anyway, unless you keep your foot on the gas when you shift.

what setup do you have on your car that would require you to manually turn VTEC on and off?

HondaCivic4358
12-16-2003, 05:38 AM
A toggle switch, I havent done it yet but i am thinkin about it, but do you know if this would hurt your car cause i have heard several things

marked001
12-16-2003, 07:36 AM
...why would you waste time mounting a toggle switch?? if you're gonna half ass..just half ass it with a rpm activated switch... a toggle switch is quite possibly the stupidest method.... you're looking at your tach..which probably isnt terribly accurate...by the time that crappy switch makes the connection... the timing is way off....and do you really want to be shifting and flipping a switch twice a gear? come on... you've got no hands left for the wheel ;)

kris
12-16-2003, 09:42 AM
Why is a rpm activated switch half assing it?

marked001
12-16-2003, 10:06 AM
Why is a rpm activated switch half assing it?

well..I didnt necessarily mean that... I meant, if you're not gonna use the proper ecu.... you may as well do the best thing you can do...especially b/c its fairly cheap...

HondaCivic4358
12-18-2003, 02:56 PM
Well i don't really want to change the ecu out. Or do i have too? I was thinkin actually about getting a summit rpm activated switch. BUT from what i hear though, you dont have to use the vtec if you dont wanna. and bt the way u can keep it on when u change gears i think

marked001
12-18-2003, 03:42 PM
..not sure if I understand your last post...but there is absolutely no advantage to leaving 'vtec on', as you put it... the performance is going to be horrible then down low...

and no..you dont really have to change your ecu out.. you may have a lean condition when vtec engages...but...not tha tbig a deal really..

1PhatCX
12-18-2003, 09:17 PM
who the hell wants vtec anyways?? i doubt it does THAT much of a difference, thats why i'm just getting a DOHC ZC when i decide 2 get a motor. wont have to worry about all this vtec stuff, its much easier without it IMO, less hassle and less 2 go wrong

civicHBsi91
12-18-2003, 10:08 PM
if you could do anything besides use the correct ecu the best would be a vtec controller you could then change fuel as needed

but foreal i would just get the correct ecu setup and then a vtec controller if you want and get it DYNO TUNED!! it'll be worth the money

Bustamon
12-19-2003, 01:05 PM
Damn man, I'm gonna go to Autozone and buy a switch for $3.99. I'm going to keep my DX Ecu but every time I flip the switch I'm going to yell... BAAAAAHHHHHH! Out my car window. Yeah Yo DX VTEC POWER! :evillol:

Bustamon
12-19-2003, 01:06 PM
But seriously don't use the toggle switch method man!

BullShifter
12-19-2003, 01:58 PM
who the hell wants vtec anyways?? i doubt it does THAT much of a difference, thats why i'm just getting a DOHC ZC when i decide 2 get a motor. wont have to worry about all this vtec stuff, its much easier without it IMO, less hassle and less 2 go wrong
Vtec aint all its said to be, IMO. People talk about Vtec & think their gonna have neck snapping power. It's just one more thing to have problems with.

Miataracer
12-19-2003, 02:04 PM
get a momentary cotact switch and put it under the gas pedal so you hit vtec when you floor it... LOL

kris
12-19-2003, 03:05 PM
Vtec aint all its said to be, IMO. People talk about Vtec & think their gonna have neck snapping power. It's just one more thing to have problems with.



Vtec is a great way to utilize a bigger cam lobe.

BullShifter
12-19-2003, 03:13 PM
Vtec is a great way to utilize a bigger cam lobe.
Right, but many people think its raw neck snapping power.

marked001
12-19-2003, 03:21 PM
Right, but many people think its raw neck snapping power.


haha...yeah...like a turbo or n20 ;)

b16rex
12-19-2003, 06:58 PM
haha...yeah...like a turbo or n20

Actually I could barely tell I had n20 in my b16. I was running a 50 and the only difference was it wound out a little bit faster but it wasn't "raw neck snapping power."

HondaCivic4358
12-22-2003, 08:55 AM
Well, do i have to change the ecu out or not if i want to do the summit rpm activated switch?

marked001
12-22-2003, 09:16 AM
....no, you dont have to change the ecu to use the rpm activated switch... what ecu are you planning on running? pm6?

HondaCivic4358
12-22-2003, 09:18 AM
Um...whatever the stock one is for an 89 Si

marked001
12-22-2003, 09:32 AM
...that's a pm6..you should be fine then.

HondaCivic4358
12-22-2003, 09:34 AM
do u think u can like maybe tell me how to hook it up or how it works or what i have to do to make it work or some tis/ thanks

HondaCivic4358
12-22-2003, 09:36 AM
tips*

marked001
12-22-2003, 09:52 AM
scroll down in both of these pages...they'll give you the necessary info...

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DrOhm/hybrid.html

http://crx.honda-perf.org/articles/z6swap/z6swap.html

HondaCivic4358
12-23-2003, 07:30 PM
I heard that if i just swap my ecu out with a 92-95 civic ecu then i dont have to get any of this. no rpm switch to install, no relay to buy...

kris
12-23-2003, 07:56 PM
but you will need to convert to obd1

HondaCivic4358
12-23-2003, 08:04 PM
What the hell is that?

civicHBsi91
12-24-2003, 11:59 AM
ill sell you my vtec controller, 130$ shipped, i bought it for 200$ shipped only used it for 5 months it worked great, im putting in an LS now dont need a vtec controller.....

EF You
12-24-2003, 02:07 PM
ill sell you my vtec controller, 130$ shipped, i bought it for 200$ shipped only used it for 5 months it worked great, im putting in an LS now dont need a vtec controller.....

what brand and model? im interested

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