WHY'd they go?

Ok. I recently just got onto this site so sorry for bringing up old news, but i wanted to know all the real reasons the camaro and firebird got dropped. I guess I just was curious. I never got to read any articles or anything on why. I mean gm isn't dumb i'm sure they had good reason (or maybe not) i guess I just want to know why they got rid of 2 awesome vehicles.

No advertising of the line, and the current platform didn't meet the new safety standards...

cool thanks for letting me know.
I really miss trans ams.

The old law of supply and demand......they werent selling anymore. People would rather save money on little 4cyls and spend thousand and thousands hopping them up

I belive the main reason of the dissapearence (besides what BLK said..) was because GM made more V8's then V6's. The V6 outsold the V8 (thats obvious), so GM was loosing money. Also another factor was that the F-Bodies were selling more to the middle age men. BTW i've only seen 2 F-Body commericals. Ever. (one where it shows a black ss out at night and another one where a WS6 "eats" a lamborghini)

I agree with J ROd Iroc-Z. People rather buy those DAM foriegn cars with their pussy 4 bangers, decking them out making them ALL SHOW but Camaro will always be ALL GO

Don't forget the commercial where the two kids were guessing the cars outside of their window just by the sound of the engines. Then the red Z28 pulls up, and one of them can't guess the color :)

I haven't seen that commercial but it sounds cool. The only f body commercial I remember is from the mid 90's. It was for a black trans am and it wasn't even a cool commercial it just showed the car at a stop light at night or something. I barley remember it though

98, that was the one im talking about. It was for the 98 WS6. It shows a lamborghini at a redlight and then the WS6 pulls behind it. Then all it shows is the redlight but you can hear metal getting crushed in the background then it shows the cars. All thats left is the WS6, and it looks like it is smiling.

I remember very little ads for the F-Bodies (I vaguely remember the Lambo one). The one I can't forget was the original early 90's one where they said the Z28 had a cup holder big enough to fit a squishy, eh?

I didn't remember a lambo bieing in that commercial. I'm gonna see if i can't find that commercial somehwere on the internet. I dont think i've seen the cup holder one dvs is talking about.

Also I was looking into buy this car:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2448222969&category=6427

But there seems something fishy about it. I guess its the miles on it. Tell me what you guys think.

By the way, if you're interested 98GPGT we all did this discussion back in Aug. The thread was called "Why the Camaro was killed?". I'm too lazy/tired to post a link but its on page 16 in this forum. It you're interested...



p.s. - just don't revive it.

Yeah I figured this discussion was already done (read my first post on here). I just got on here about a week ago and I wanted to hear why they got rid of it form people who trully know not people who think they do.

hey 98GPCT, ill seel ya an 85 IROC with 109,XXX miles, it put away for winter, lol it got stuck in the drivway, and about all thoes cammercial, compleatly off the subject, does anybody remember the red blazer/jimmy that they bunji jumped of a bridge?

boots do you have any pictures?
Where are you located?

And I don't know what commercial you're talking about. But it sounds cool.

i dont have picture of it yet, but it will need a trannie soon, i will throw in a 700R4 with 48000 miles on, and hell, i wll even put it in, lol, i have a lot of free time. i am in iowa, and i need to get some pics of it, and when i do, i will put them on here. its white, 305 TPI, t-tops, no rust anywhere, it runs good, and its fast.

Have you dynoed it? what are we talking on price?

price, right around 2700-2900 mor towrds 2700 and its never been dyno'd to my knowlage, but, it does hold its own on the street, it eats rice for luch if ya know what i mean.

No offense but my 3.8l v6 eats rice for lunch. I'm not saying its not fast though i'm sure it would take my gp. What is a major city you are close to in iowa?

i live in Des Moines, lol, my cavalier (3.1 Z24) has ate a few 3.8's lol, but if you want to make this easier, and if you have aol aim, my screen name is boots03
if i dont respond right away, i am having a smoke.

i live 2hrs away from davenport if that is closer to you, and i am 5 hrs away from chicago

Oh yeah right...the cavalier z34 is nothing but a big piece of sh*t...I beat one in my 2.5l chrysler labaron turbo. What was the 3.8 you beat with the cav in?

My room mate is form davenport. he's going back next week mabye i'll come and check it out.

That cav is only 150 hp with 150 f/lb torque.
I have 200 hp 225 lb/ft torque.
The weight difference isn't big enough for me to lose to a cav.

Hows the iroc compare to most 5.0 mustangs?

lol,, my cavalier wasnt stock, it had the 3.1 turbo from the TGP of 1990 vintage, that and a b16 turbo and blitz front mount help it out alot, the 3.8 was in a camro, and it was in an automatic.

the IROC does good, its beat most of them i have ran against, the only time i have lost to one is when a lifter broke, and the pushrod went threw the lifter, but all of that has been fixed.

You still have that cavalier? I might drive up and check out the iroc maybe we can run em. Also 3.8L in a camaro sux. Heavy rwd axel to much for that v6. My best victory was against a stang gt 4.6.

ya, that sounds like a plan, i still have it, but its in pieces now, i wrecked it back in april, and sold the engine,( :banghead: ) and now it has a stock 3.1 in it, buut i am going to pull the frame on it this spring with the money i get out of the iroc and reserect it for a thrid time(the frist time was do to fried headgaskets) but ya, if you like it and want it, i wouldnt mind selling it about 2700(with the tranny fixed) if ya want to know more about it email me at [email protected], or just im me at boots03 on aim, i am heading to bed, lol, the "wife" is calling. night man