Quick Survey
paul
12-01-2000, 01:32 PM
This is just a quick survey; Which would you rather have OVERALL.
Lotus V8 or Viper GTS
Lotus V8 or Ferrari F355
Ferrari F50 or Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
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For The Few Who Know The Difference
Lotus V8 or Viper GTS
Lotus V8 or Ferrari F355
Ferrari F50 or Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
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- Lotus -
For The Few Who Know The Difference
enzo@af
12-01-2000, 03:21 PM
Lotus V8: Sure, it's got less power, but make up for that with wonderful handling and a more neutral weight balance. A few modifications to the Turbos and you've got a viper killer.
Ferrari 355: Performance between the two is comparable, but I take the Ferrari for a few Reasons...
1. Style. To me, it blows the Lotus away (and with a car as gorgeous as the Lotus, that's hard to do!)
2. That sweet, sweet distinctive ferrari sound. Nobody does rip and snort like Ferrari:D
3. NA. The Lotus has a TT setup, and still doesn't manage the hp/L that the 355 does. Doesn't matter in overall performance, of course not. But it does add to my satisfaction.
Ferrari F50: This isn't even a debate, in my opinion. The comparison is between a street legal F1 car and a high performance Street car. The straight line performance is near identical, but once you factor turns into the equation, the Ferrari blows it away. A gut-wrenching lateral acceleration and a much higher redline are enough to do it for me. The Ferrari's superb aerodynamics aid in my choice as well. The only downfalls are that enormouns price tag and that high compression....a speed bump in Turbo application.
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"Ferrari isn't a car, it's a lifestyle"
-Enzo Ferrari.
Ferrari 355: Performance between the two is comparable, but I take the Ferrari for a few Reasons...
1. Style. To me, it blows the Lotus away (and with a car as gorgeous as the Lotus, that's hard to do!)
2. That sweet, sweet distinctive ferrari sound. Nobody does rip and snort like Ferrari:D
3. NA. The Lotus has a TT setup, and still doesn't manage the hp/L that the 355 does. Doesn't matter in overall performance, of course not. But it does add to my satisfaction.
Ferrari F50: This isn't even a debate, in my opinion. The comparison is between a street legal F1 car and a high performance Street car. The straight line performance is near identical, but once you factor turns into the equation, the Ferrari blows it away. A gut-wrenching lateral acceleration and a much higher redline are enough to do it for me. The Ferrari's superb aerodynamics aid in my choice as well. The only downfalls are that enormouns price tag and that high compression....a speed bump in Turbo application.
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"Ferrari isn't a car, it's a lifestyle"
-Enzo Ferrari.
Dimex
12-02-2000, 04:40 PM
I'd take the Viper GTS, the Ferrari 355, and the Ferrari F50.
paul
12-04-2000, 02:21 PM
Enzo is like the Ferrari protector and I am like the Lotus protector. Its funny.
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enzo@af
12-04-2000, 08:05 PM
Although that's true, in most other situations I'm a Lotus guy. The hang up for me comes that performance is so close that I have to base decisions on things like look and stuff.
It's too bad they aren't competitors throughout the market, but I don't see Ferrari ever making a 4-cyl to compete with the Elise...thankfully. Just not their style.
I think we both agree on the Esprit vs. Viper though, right?:)
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"Ferrari isn't a car, it's a lifestyle"
-Enzo Ferrari.
It's too bad they aren't competitors throughout the market, but I don't see Ferrari ever making a 4-cyl to compete with the Elise...thankfully. Just not their style.
I think we both agree on the Esprit vs. Viper though, right?:)
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"Ferrari isn't a car, it's a lifestyle"
-Enzo Ferrari.
Chris
02-23-2001, 05:48 PM
Lotus V8 (almost as fast, better handling, more exotic, just awesome)
Lotus V8 (faster then the 355, cheaper. Yes, it has half the cylinders, but the 355 will be staring at there exhaust pipes, still love the 355, though)
F50, no question. Race car for the street vs. supercar. F50 faster, corners harder, sexier, just plain awesome.
Lotus V8 (faster then the 355, cheaper. Yes, it has half the cylinders, but the 355 will be staring at there exhaust pipes, still love the 355, though)
F50, no question. Race car for the street vs. supercar. F50 faster, corners harder, sexier, just plain awesome.
Seb928S@af
02-23-2001, 05:54 PM
Lotus
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
No ferraris for me. :)
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
No ferraris for me. :)
enzo@af
02-23-2001, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Chris
Lotus V8 (faster then the 355, cheaper. Yes, it has half the cylinders, but the 355 will be staring at there exhaust pipes, still love the 355, though)
Well, believe it or not, the 355 is not a 16 cylinder car. It's true.
And, the Esprit has slightly better 0-60 acceleration, but they're equal in the quarter mile and the 355 tops out higher. So, "faster" should be "quicker" or "better accelerating".
And, the 355 is lighter, puts out more horsepower, and does it all NA (not that it means anything).
Lotus V8 (faster then the 355, cheaper. Yes, it has half the cylinders, but the 355 will be staring at there exhaust pipes, still love the 355, though)
Well, believe it or not, the 355 is not a 16 cylinder car. It's true.
And, the Esprit has slightly better 0-60 acceleration, but they're equal in the quarter mile and the 355 tops out higher. So, "faster" should be "quicker" or "better accelerating".
And, the 355 is lighter, puts out more horsepower, and does it all NA (not that it means anything).
Chris
02-23-2001, 08:44 PM
Yeah, I realized the Lotus had a V8 about 10 minutes after I wrote that, not 4 like they did in the 96 or older cars. I was off the internet, and didn't bother changing it. Ops. Yeah, I hadn't thought of the quarter. 0-60 is when you get the most g-force, so it is where you get the real sense of speed in your spine, not just your other senses (meaning you know when your going 200mph, even in racing sims its scary. But at 200 mph, the spine-compression is over) And top speed, well I don't live in Germany, so its almost useless. Oh well, good to know you are a good moderator. Keep up the good work!
enzo@af
02-24-2001, 01:02 AM
Plus, for a road car acceleration is way better than top speed, IMO. And, think of the fun you could have with those Turbo's in the Lotus! Tough choice.
i_rebel
05-11-2001, 12:05 PM
I would choose the Lotus . . .
I've always felt it has (since the 4cyl model) a near perfect balance of form and function . . . and it seems to be a little less common than other exotics at least from what my eyes tell me . . .
I don't remember any performance specifics to backup my decision but I don't even care . . . the Lotus is my personal object of desire, and no amount of horsepower will sway me . . .
Before it's all over I WILL own a Lotus Esprit V8
I've always felt it has (since the 4cyl model) a near perfect balance of form and function . . . and it seems to be a little less common than other exotics at least from what my eyes tell me . . .
I don't remember any performance specifics to backup my decision but I don't even care . . . the Lotus is my personal object of desire, and no amount of horsepower will sway me . . .
Before it's all over I WILL own a Lotus Esprit V8
MaximumBrian
05-26-2001, 10:06 PM
Lotus over Viper
F355 over Lotus
F50
F355 over Lotus
F50
Chris
05-26-2001, 10:29 PM
I don't remember any performance specifics to backup my decision but I don't even care . . . the Lotus is my personal object of desire, and no amount of horsepower will sway me . . .
Don't worry, the Lotus goes 0-60 in 4.1 seconds, thats .1 seconds slower than a viper with a 100hp advantage. Top speed, if i can remember, is about 170mph. Only 200 or so are made a year (that may be the ones shipped to North America, I'm not sure right now.) Super-duper-super car.:sun:
Don't worry, the Lotus goes 0-60 in 4.1 seconds, thats .1 seconds slower than a viper with a 100hp advantage. Top speed, if i can remember, is about 170mph. Only 200 or so are made a year (that may be the ones shipped to North America, I'm not sure right now.) Super-duper-super car.:sun:
Chris
05-26-2001, 10:47 PM
Just saw 178 for the Lotus.
here's a pic of the Espit
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/lotus/espirit/38.jpg
And a 355, then a Viper, then an F50, then Lamborghini, just to be fair:)
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/ferrari/355berlinetta/32.jpg
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/dodge/vipergtscoupe/31.jpg
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/ferrari/f50/18.jpg
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/lamborghini/diablovt6/29.jpg
here's a pic of the Espit
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/lotus/espirit/38.jpg
And a 355, then a Viper, then an F50, then Lamborghini, just to be fair:)
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/ferrari/355berlinetta/32.jpg
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/dodge/vipergtscoupe/31.jpg
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/ferrari/f50/18.jpg
http://www.supercarcentral.com/cars/lamborghini/diablovt6/29.jpg
enzo@af
05-26-2001, 11:16 PM
I believe that the 200 number for lotus esprits is the North American ones. They produce more than that overall, I'm pretty sure.
DVSNCYNIKL
05-27-2001, 10:02 PM
Viper GTS - cuz I love the body styles.
F355 - Cuz I said so.
Finally, this was a hard one for me. But I had to go with the Diablo. I love the way the F50 looks. But the diablo has more power.
F355 - Cuz I said so.
Finally, this was a hard one for me. But I had to go with the Diablo. I love the way the F50 looks. But the diablo has more power.
Chris
05-28-2001, 09:38 AM
The diablo has more power, but it is heavier and like I said, it is an awesome road car, but ht e F50 is a race car for the streets.:)
DVSNCYNIKL
05-28-2001, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Chris
The diablo has more power, but it is heavier and like I said, it is an awesome road car, but ht e F50 is a race car for the streets.:)
Yeah I know. But I can't help it. Since I was little, Lamborghini has been like the one car to have. Granted it's heavier, but man, just looking at it gives me the willies.:D
The diablo has more power, but it is heavier and like I said, it is an awesome road car, but ht e F50 is a race car for the streets.:)
Yeah I know. But I can't help it. Since I was little, Lamborghini has been like the one car to have. Granted it's heavier, but man, just looking at it gives me the willies.:D
Chris
05-28-2001, 10:17 AM
Since I was little, Lamborghini has been like the one car to have. Granted it's heavier, but man, just looking at it gives me the willies.
I agree mostly. When I was little, I knew about Lamborghini way before Ferrari. It was what I wanted, just "a lamborghini".
I agree mostly. When I was little, I knew about Lamborghini way before Ferrari. It was what I wanted, just "a lamborghini".
RCKid
10-16-2001, 05:15 PM
I would choose the Lotus over all. It is my dream car and it has the best of both worlds... V8 AND turbos.
One day soon, I will own one.
One day soon, I will own one.
gang$tarr
10-21-2001, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by RCKid
and it has the best of both worlds... V8 AND turbos.
well you wouldn't be able to drive on just turbos :D :D
i would take:
Lotus, because i don't really like vipers
F355, because i love Ferraris and they're alot better than the Esprit IMO
F-50, it's faster than the Diablo, alot more exclusive, more rare.... but this was the hardest choice of them all cause i love Diablos :D pictures do them no justice, they look soooo good in real life
and it has the best of both worlds... V8 AND turbos.
well you wouldn't be able to drive on just turbos :D :D
i would take:
Lotus, because i don't really like vipers
F355, because i love Ferraris and they're alot better than the Esprit IMO
F-50, it's faster than the Diablo, alot more exclusive, more rare.... but this was the hardest choice of them all cause i love Diablos :D pictures do them no justice, they look soooo good in real life
lotusboy
04-10-2002, 10:38 PM
Esprit V8
Esprit V8
Diablo
Easy to choose
-Lotus Rule-:) :)
Esprit V8
Diablo
Easy to choose
-Lotus Rule-:) :)
SilverLotus340R
06-24-2002, 04:53 PM
lotus
lotus
ferrari...
only way to go..
if i had to choose a lotus over the ferrari i would have done that too
lotus is the best dream car IMO i have wanted one since i was 4
when my dad showed me the James Bond movies with the lotus in them...
BTW welcome lotusboy to automotive forums
lotus
ferrari...
only way to go..
if i had to choose a lotus over the ferrari i would have done that too
lotus is the best dream car IMO i have wanted one since i was 4
when my dad showed me the James Bond movies with the lotus in them...
BTW welcome lotusboy to automotive forums
jsb88
10-01-2002, 10:17 AM
mmm...
Lotus Esprit V8
Ferrari 355
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
Lotus Esprit V8
Ferrari 355
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0
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