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Rx8 reliability?


-The Stig-
12-13-2003, 08:40 PM
Check out this, I found it on the Z forum I visit... pretty interesting. Guy's Rx8 ate a motor in 1200 miles.

Rx8club.com (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?threadid=14267&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)

DeViL
12-13-2003, 11:16 PM
I've heard nothing but bad things about the car ever since it came out. It's a shame too its a pretty cool looking car.

Neutrino
12-14-2003, 12:43 AM
well that could in theory be a factory lemon...i guess in the next few months we'll see how many show up with bad engines

but it is true...i belive they overhyped the engine and when it came out it was dynoing way low and that is just bad PR....losing customer trust is a very bad thing

Nissan-Fan
12-14-2003, 12:49 AM
Well i doubt their any worse than the Wankel, and the 13bt2 wasnt bad.
I wonder if they will come out with more versions of the Rx-8 ??

2of9
12-14-2003, 01:37 AM
That RX-8 was probably redlined too much. i heard bad stuff about the RX-8's cat-back nd exhuast too

Steel
12-14-2003, 01:40 AM
LIES! All lies!! the rotary is PERFECT!!!

MustangRoadRacer
12-14-2003, 01:58 AM
I think it's too early to say whether or not the car is reliable.
the rotary is a good idea and can be made to be a great engine, but it is expensive howver.

DMC12
12-14-2003, 03:18 AM
Guy's Rx8 ate a motor in 1200 miles.
"Seals are bad inside the motor" any somehow coolant is on the floor? Huh? If coolant is leaking INSIDE the engine then it'll show up in the oil. Maybe he just didn't describe it right.

Anyway, Mazda beats Chevy in the respect that they volunteered to replace his engine. Chevy dealers ignore problems until the warranty expires, THEN they replace the engine on your tab :eek7:

-The Stig-
12-14-2003, 03:25 AM
"Seals are bad inside the motor" any somehow coolant is on the floor? Huh? If coolant is leaking INSIDE the engine then it'll show up in the oil. Maybe he just didn't describe it right.

Anyway, Mazda beats Chevy in the respect that they volunteered to replace his engine. Chevy dealers ignore problems until the warranty expires, THEN they replace the engine on your tab :eek7:



Jeez... Don't get on my case, I'm only repeating what the guy posted.

Each dealer is different, some are really great with customers and some are horrible. Just a fact of life.

BlkCamaroSS
12-14-2003, 11:16 AM
That's why you have to get to know your tech guys at your respective dealership. First, find one that has great customer service, and then get to know your guys there. Helps out tremendously.

76_cobra
12-15-2003, 04:20 AM
A friend of mine just recently test drove a new RX-8 and as he was driving it the check engine light came on, needless to say he didn't buy it he got thenew Acura TL instead.

2000LS1Z28
12-15-2003, 07:30 PM
The apex seals on those rotary engines are notorious for problems. The cars have an excellent power to weight ratio, but in terms of durability they suck. On to another comment left by a member:

Anyway, Mazda beats Chevy in the respect that they volunteered to replace his engine. Chevy dealers ignore problems until the warranty expires, THEN they replace the engine on your tab

I dunno about that (Or your comment about LS1 having valve problems), because where I am at I had a buddy that literally matted his car every chance he got. This guy drove like he was racing in the indy 500 to go to 7eleven. He also had every bolt on on the car as well. The dealership rebuilt his engine free of charge (Not to mention 2 different power steering pumps). I myself have a 2000 Z28 and have zero problems with it. i have 77K miles on it to boot. Don't get me started on Ford, cause the 98 Cobra I purchased new saw the mecahnic more then me.

RAGE1515
01-20-2004, 11:28 PM
Bet You Didn't Use Pre-mix?

89Turbo944
01-21-2004, 12:01 AM
The new Renisis engine does not have apex seal problems as of yet. That had mainly to do with the turboed RX7's.

The boost levels tend to cause premature wear, as well as the increased heat. But I think this is just a case of a lemon.

LjasonL
01-21-2004, 12:15 AM
Driving a rotary "softly" causes carbon build ups on the apex seals which leads to failure. They like to be wrung out every so often, not completely babied.

Self
01-21-2004, 12:55 AM
On to another comment left by a member:


I dunno about that (Or your comment about LS1 having valve problems), because where I am at I had a buddy that literally matted his car every chance he got. This guy drove like he was racing in the indy 500 to go to 7eleven. He also had every bolt on on the car as well. The dealership rebuilt his engine free of charge (Not to mention 2 different power steering pumps). I myself have a 2000 Z28 and have zero problems with it. i have 77K miles on it to boot. Don't get me started on Ford, cause the 98 Cobra I purchased new saw the mecahnic more then me.

My 95 Z28(LT1) is giving me more problems than I can count, and it's right at 96k. Granted it's been beat on more than probably any other car owned by anyone on this board...But still:p
Right now the following are giving me problems:
1. Faulty MAF
2. Faulty O2 Sensors
3. Needs new TO Bearing
4. Horrible gear grinding in first second and third at all speeds and RPMs

I know this is not typical, or trying to discredit 2000s statements, just felt like giving my experience.

Soooo, consequently it's in the shop at the moment(for the tranny probs). And as a result of that I'm getting to make like I'm coooool and drive an AMG on loan from me familia:smokin:

fatninja19
01-21-2004, 02:16 AM
What kind of Benzo are you cruising around in right now, Self?

Self
01-21-2004, 02:45 AM
What kind of Benzo are you cruising around in right now, Self?

S55

Psman32@af
01-21-2004, 10:20 AM
Umm, i would just like to say that i have had both a GM (buick park ave) and a Ford (lincoln towncar) and i had less problems with the lincoln than the park ave, adn the park ave is two years newer with 150,000 less miles, not to mention, the lincoln had a better ride, more "confident" handling, and more power, power up until close to when it died, for about the same money at orignal sticker. I would buy another Ford long before i would buy another GM. anyway back on topic with the rotary... I think that was just a Lemon with so few miles, that happens with all brands from time to time. I will wait and see untl there are more Rx-8's out there before i complain about the reliabilty of it. Also, as with pervious rotary engines, it could have an issue if it over heats, I know that was an issue with past ones. I actually, wish there were mroe cars out there with a rotorary engine, as it is so much simplier, and if it had the same time and money put into it as the piston engine has over all these years, it would most likely be far far supior in terms of power output and reliability.

LjasonL
01-21-2004, 06:13 PM
Did you know the rotarys mix engine oil in with their fuel like a 2 stroke? I was BSing around the shop with a prominent tuner Saturday after hours, and we started into rotarys when I found a tub of old rotors in the corner :lol: He said in one of the cars they built, while they had the engine out they "cleaned up" the engine bay a lot, including removing whatever it is that adds the oil, so now when the guy fills up at a gas station he has to add 2 stroke oil to his tank :lol:

-Josh-
01-21-2004, 06:47 PM
And to think, i was actually buying into the commercials about their great rotary engine. Now i can make fun of my friend who said the new RX-8 would be unfoulable.

I saw an LS1 WS6 Trans Am come into the shop today and get put on the lift caddy corner to me, but it was once again basic maintenance. I've never seen an LS1 come in and need anything other than basic maintenance.

RAGE1515
01-22-2004, 09:12 AM
Had an RX-7 220,000+ Miles on the engine. Replaced alot of water pumps but never the engine.

Steel
01-22-2004, 05:04 PM
Did you know the rotarys mix engine oil in with their fuel like a 2 stroke? I was BSing around the shop with a prominent tuner Saturday after hours, and we started into rotarys when I found a tub of old rotors in the corner :lol: He said in one of the cars they built, while they had the engine out they "cleaned up" the engine bay a lot, including removing whatever it is that adds the oil, so now when the guy fills up at a gas station he has to add 2 stroke oil to his tank :lol:

Wrong. It dribbles a little oil into the lower intake manifold, and it dribbles a little right in the housing so that the apex seal wipes over it and spreads it out a bit. But adding 2 stroke to the tank and removing the OMP is the best for the health of a rotary.

LjasonL
01-22-2004, 07:07 PM
Well... so it mixes oil with fuel... in the housing :lol: It does it, that's the point.

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