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Saw a guy trying to kill himself.


NSX-R-SSJ20K
12-12-2003, 10:58 AM
saw a guy trying to kill himself.

(Ya know Brighton Marina - Tanaraki?)
He was looking over the cliff holding himself. (ie arms wraped around himself) above the City's Marina. There was also 4 policemen 2 where staring at him and the other two were by the car. I dunno what happened but he looked like he'd flipped. Not sure if he would have jumped. Don't think he did. Like to think he didn't.

I Have never seen such a tragic event.
I have no idea what to think, its all a bit wierd.

Formula400
12-12-2003, 11:02 AM
Just some idiot trying to get attention. If he really wanted to die he would be dead.

DaxManio
12-12-2003, 11:38 AM
^^Haha true, probably wanted the police to call up that someone who forced him to go that far and get him/her to console the jumper...

YogsVR4
12-12-2003, 12:26 PM
I hope the guy didn’t jump and is looking for some help.

jon@af
12-12-2003, 01:04 PM
Makes you wonder sometimes, what drove him to be up there in the first place.

mycivic
12-12-2003, 01:07 PM
tsk tsk tsk. its not worth taking your own life...or any other life for that matter.

NSX-R-SSJ20K
12-12-2003, 02:23 PM
he looked like he was nuts. Holding yourself isn't something a sane person would do. Although would a sane person try to kill themselves

taranaki
12-12-2003, 02:30 PM
I know the spot well.If you were 100% committed to killing yourself,there are better places to do it without attracting attention to yourself.If it was a sincere attempt at suicide,he would have simply climbed over the safety fence and stepped over the edge.A person can believe that they want to die to the extent that they set themself up for it,only to have their natural instinct for self-preservation kick in at the very last moment.

Such situations are extremely dangerous,both for victim and rescuer.the victim is in a very confused and disoriented state,and a rescuer sometimes has to risk their own safety to bring the victim back safely.Here's hoping that nobody got hurt,and this poor soul is getting the kind of support that was clearly missing from his life.

Formula400
12-12-2003, 02:50 PM
Makes you wonder sometimes, what drove him to be up there in the first place.

First guess would be woman trouble.

CeeJay
12-12-2003, 05:29 PM
First guess would be woman trouble.
2nd guess, after reading what you've been posting here, would be that he's a friend of yours :screwy:

Ssom
12-12-2003, 05:52 PM
Damn, it always sucks when people take the radical way out, instead of trying to get some damned help, suicide is pointless and stupid, expecially considering the constant resources taht are beign put towards it's prevention in this day and age

chicago_guy
12-12-2003, 06:49 PM
Its sad really, suicide is never the answer.

taranaki
12-12-2003, 06:58 PM
suicide is pointless and stupid, expecially considering the constant resources that are being put towards it's prevention in this day and age

Glad to see that you have faith in the health system,Moss.True,there are a lot of good people in the mental health care field that truly want to help,but a lot of the more established staff still run to the 'lock'em up and shock'em up' mentality.

As for the resources,like most hospital departments,mental health is chronically underfunded.And unlike ,say,the cancer ward or the childrens' ward,it's very hard to persuade the public to dip into their pockets to help.

jon@af
12-12-2003, 08:23 PM
2nd guess, after reading what you've been posting here, would be that he's a friend of yours :screwy:
Let's not derail this already. Just because you dont like him doesnt mean you have to flame and get the thread closed for everyone else.

I wonder how things would turn out if the people who are about to commit suicide knew the kind of pain the were about to inflict on the people who care about them. But then again, I suppose it's that thought that no one cares at all. Just another one of those times where it can be said that if you know someone who you think is depressed to the point of suicide, help them out; sometimes being a friend is all it takes.

grimmy
12-13-2003, 05:19 PM
I wonder how things would turn out if the people who are about to commit suicide knew the kind of pain the were about to inflict on the people who care about them.

i think they have a pretty good idea. i would say at least 90% of the people who go thru with it did it as a form of revenge.

NSX-R-SSJ20K
12-13-2003, 05:52 PM
Glad to see that you have faith in the health system,Moss.True,there are a lot of good people in the mental health care field that truly want to help,but a lot of the more established staff still run to the 'lock'em up and shock'em up' mentality.

As for the resources,like most hospital departments,mental health is chronically underfunded.And unlike ,say,the cancer ward or the childrens' ward,it's very hard to persuade the public to dip into their pockets to help.


I was about to say the same thing but i don't think even Cancer wards have anything near the appropriate funding. I don't think its a question of whether the public wants to put money towards it either. The government mis manage funds and alot of money is wasted and squandered and on the whole government is a complete piece of crap. Good example would be Boris Johnson. I'm sure there's plenty of sites on that lunatic. Not to mention the fact that the NHS has been useless for ages. Healthcare is not something that should be said unreservedly I'd like to think of it as Health Lottery.

It's only going to get worse.

On the idea of what probably caused it.

Its Christmas a time of year that makes some people's life's 10 times worse. Woman trouble is a pretty poor offering of an answer.

Chris
12-13-2003, 09:08 PM
Id say the worst case of suicide was when a guy in a town about 20 minutes from me hung himself. He could reach the floor with his feet, if he had wanted to, he could have stopped the suicide by pushing his feet down. But, he wanted to die so badly, he didnt, and when unconscious, he couldnt apply the necessary pressure with his feet to unchoke himself. A guy with that dedication definately doesnt deserve death.

Never had anyone close to me commit suicide. There were a few times when it seemed like it might happen (female friends with guy/parent/friend/school problems), which wasnt too fun. And my bestfriend was pretty near the edge for about a week, after his gf (and my best female friend) died skiing with him....the whole situation that lead to that made it even worse, but I dont feel like talking about it.

But having had a very very close friend die, I definately dont want anyone anywhere to commit suicide; there are always people who care about them. Besides, even though life can royally suck, there are always good points. You would never know sweetness if you've tasted bitterness.

Hope the guy got the help he needed.

DaxManio
12-14-2003, 04:09 PM
Ahh Darwin's Darwin's theory of evolutionary selection...

Natural Selection..
the strong survive, the weak die off

Black_Eclipse
12-16-2003, 12:21 PM
you havnt been chased by someone trying to kill you, now thats some scary ****! :(

Black_Eclipse
12-16-2003, 12:23 PM
anyway.... :gives:

moondog
12-16-2003, 06:06 PM
i think they have a pretty good idea. i would say at least 90% of the people who go thru with it did it as a form of revenge.

nope. I deal with this day in/day out, and it isn't usually revenge. Sometimes there's a certain amount of that dynamic, but not that often.

moondog
12-16-2003, 06:08 PM
Ahh Darwin's Darwin's theory of evolutionary selection...

Natural Selection..
the strong survive, the weak die off

Now does anyone have any questions why - with this sort of bullshit attitude so prevalent - we're so fucking underfunded? :(

jon@af
12-16-2003, 10:58 PM
Now does anyone have any questions why - with this sort of bullshit attitude so prevalent - we're so fucking underfunded? :(
...What?...

moondog
12-17-2003, 01:50 PM
I refer you to Dax-whatever's post

jon@af
12-17-2003, 01:53 PM
I refer you to Dax-whatever's post
I gotcha, sorry for the misunderstanding.

numbware
12-17-2003, 05:53 PM
Some people are just pushed to the edge. I know a girl who was trying to kill herself. I spent some time talking to her and found out she's had multiple relationship problems and was an orphan. After getting across to her that it's not exactly the end of the world. Since then, I've never seen her happier. Now we're best friends. Basically, if there is a moral to this, it would probably be talk to people like this on the edge, even if you don't know them. It could just save them more than ever.

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