Sohc Vtec Is This A Deal

Hey eveyone.
Okay here is the deal, my d15b2 with mpfi had a little problem and it kicked the bucket.
Well i really dont have a backup car so im borrowing my moms till i can get it fix. Well anyway a guy is willing to sell me a 92-95 obd1 SOHC VTEC engine for 425.00 with 5spd transmission. NO ecu. Does anyone think this is a good deal???? I think it is and it will sustain me for like 6 months till i go bigger? Do you think that thats a good deal????
Thanks
Andrew

all i think i need to do is obd1 to obd0 and wire vtec

Is the tranny hydraulic.
If yes would it be easier to use my 5spd lx one??

Well, for that price, why dont you get the JDM D15B (sohc vtec) which normally has less miles, has a warranty, etc.

Yes the tranny is a hydro, if it is the same one that came with the car.

I would go for it (if it's a D16Z6). If the problem with the D15 was in the MPFI I would suggest against it as you will need all the MPFI parts to run your current ECU with the new engine (or you could convert to OBD1 and find an ECU for it).

Well the only reason i was interested in it was because the guy lived close to me and he would deliver. Its a true sohc vtec. The engine block is stamped ZC and it was a front clip that had 47xxx on it.
Oh and i was going to convert to obd1.
ANy thought please??
How hard is it to convert to a hydro, the engines not a hybrid its a true sohc zc... Or would it be easier to use my d15b2??? tranny??

I didnt know the ZC came in vtec form. The D15B is mpfi as well.

HERE IS THE EBAY LINK:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=2446621281

bump anyone i need to know because i need to tell him yes or no by tonight!!!!!

You can sell the hydraulic tranmission on ebay and easily get at least $150 for it. I paid ~$850 shipped for a DOHC ZC and low mileage SI tranny (they were from different places so shipping sucked) so I think $425 and free delivery is a steal.

How much of a power decrease will be about with using a lx 5spd tranny.
Im only using this for ease of install.

Okay, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but first off, there was no 92-95 ZC engine in a Honda. The ZC came in the 86-87 (Chassis code AT) JDM Civic Si, the 88-91 (Chassis Code EF) JDM Civic Si, 86-89 (Chassis Code AV) JDM Integra, and the 90-93 (Chassis Code DB) JDM Integra. Also, the 85-87 CRX Si and the 89-92 CRX Si1.6/1.6i had the ZC too. All the ZC's but the last one (90-93 JDM Integra) where rated at 129HP@6800rpm and 106 ft/lbs@5700rpm with a Compression Ratio of 9.6:1. The 90-93 JDM Integra ZC was rated at 119hp@6300rpm and 105 ft/lbs@5500rpm with a Comperssion Ratio of 9.0:1. The ZC found in the 86-87 and 88-91 Civic was 1595cc, the one found in the 86-89 and 90-93 Integea was 1590cc. The 86-87 Civic Si and 86-89 Teg came w/ a CG tranny. the 88-91 Civic Si came w/ a L3, and the 90-93 Teg came with a S1, A1, or J1 tranny. Maybe the SOHC Vtec ZC was the one found in the Teg. If you can get the tranny code it might help with the source of your ZC. I have seen the SOHC ZC listed on ARDperformances website before, but not reallyu anywhere else. I have never seen one in real life. I know most ZC motors where a non-vtec DOHC desgin @ 1595cc, so I am guessing the 1590 ones where the one you where looking at. I personally wouldn't get it. It doesn't feel right to me. Plus, you'll need to buy the proper Vtec ECU. Anyways, there's info on ZC's for yea, hope it helps.

the engine block has zc stamped on it??? ANY HELP?? LOOK AT THE EBAY LINK WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE OR IS???

well...http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm shows it as a D16A6...a SOHC non-Vtec motor in the 92-95 JDM civic.....it's listed as "ZC/D16A6."

However, http://www.ardperformance.com/cgi-bin/indexjd.pl?action=index shows a SOHC Vtec "ZC" from a 92-95. My best guess is this.....that motor is probably a D16Z6....just like the SOHC non-vtec ZC is a D16A6......I am guessing it's from a 1.6 SOHC Vtec JDM Civic, and is probably what is called the D16Z6 here...either that or they have mini-me swapped the D16A6/ZC motor...

Sorry I am un-able to be more clear.

THATS OKAY. THE PIC LOOKed like it was a hybrid between a d15b vtec head and a d16a6/zc block, thats why i thought it was stamped zc on the block.

SOHC VTEC PGM-Fi
16V SOHC with VTEC, Programmed Fuel Injection.
Max Power : 130ps.
EG-series Honda Civic Ferio EXi (coded as E-EJ3).


I found this at aisa.vtec.net (http://asia.vtec.net/topics/zc.html)

SOHC VTEC PGM-Fi
16V SOHC with VTEC, Programmed Fuel Injection.
Max Power : 130ps.
EG-series Honda Civic Ferio EXi (coded as E-EJ3).


I found this at aisa.vtec.net (http://asia.vtec.net/topics/zc.html)

Good job researching that. We hammered this out quick. It looks like my suspision from my last post was correct...that the "92-95 JDM OBD-I SOHC VTEC ZC motor" is indeed the USDM 92-95 OBD-I SOHC VTEC D16Z6 motor. Same displacement, same bore and stroke, and hp and torque at the same rpm. Both 4 cylinder 16 vavle sohc. Kind of confusing, and misleading, since most ZC's are thought to be the DOHC design by most ppl. I think it would have been easier to code both D16Z6 in both the US and Japan. It seems to be the same motor. Oh well, lol.

Thanks A Lot> Does Everyone Still Think That It Is Worth It?????

Im Definatley A Yes On This!!!

Do what you want to do. I am not a huge fan of SOHC engines, even the Vtec ones. I perfer the DOHC 1.8 liters. I like the much greater torque they offer, as this is important to me. If you go SOHC, definatly get a 1.6 Liter Vtec one. If you think it's worth it, then go for it. If you don't don't. I really am not a fan of swappin in a sohc motors, some of the reasons I listed above. But that's my preferencel, don't let my dislike for these motor's make up your mind for you. I'd rarther have the USDM equivalent motor of those two (ZC & D16Z6), but that's me. Still, do what you want to do, not what I want to do.

THANKS Yes i am definatley a fan of dohc motors over sohc motors ESPECIALLY DOHC VTEC ones.. Much better but i wont be swapping till spring, and my engine d15b2 wont run. So this is like a bandaid till spring when i put the cast on. Kind of know what i mean??

For that price I would go with a JDM D15B or find a Y8 in your area.

THANKS Yes i am definatley a fan of dohc motors over sohc motors ESPECIALLY DOHC VTEC ones.. Much better but i wont be swapping till spring, and my engine d15b2 wont run. So this is like a bandaid till spring when i put the cast on. Kind of know what i mean??

I understand what you are saying. I understand you not wanting to spend a small fortune on a "temporary band-aid." Still, I would keep looking around to see what other deals I could dig up. Just make ure that the total cost to swap in your SOHC band-aid...that includes parts, install, etc...doesn't end up being too much. I am guessing you can't afford the swap for a DOHC yet? As to the JDM D15B...I personally wouldn't get that either. Weather it's the Vtec JDM D15 or not. I had a D15B7 in my car when I first got it.....gutless thing. Even the EX motor motor would have provided a bit of relief. Once I got the LS in there though, that gave me torque more along the lines of what I wanted. The light weight civic moves with that in it. Anyways, keep us posted on what you do.

Okay i think i know what you mean. Instead of spending a little more money to get more power for my "temp bandaid" I should just get something to solve the problem. Oh i got it just get like a stock d16a6 or another d15b2 from like a totaled or wrecked car. Okay i gotcha.
I already have 2 engines that i could use. a b16a1 and a k20 but i have just the engine and tranny on the b16 and the k20 is out of a accident so i have everything except a bolt in kit.

Okay thanks for all your help.
I just need to find a cheaper engine know.