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Which is better Acura Integra GS-R or Toyota Celica GT-S


Turbo99Eclipse
12-16-2001, 02:38 AM
I think the Celica GT-S is better but thats what i think Celica:180hp,6-speed,etc.

13secondcivic
12-16-2001, 06:20 AM
LOL....actually, a buddy of mine works for Toyota, has a 99 Civic Si, and him and another mechanic both think that the Si is a much better car, and that the GTS is a bit slow for having all that power. and ALL the money that thing costs! Not worth it! I'll take the GSR simply because of all that can be done to it.

eightysix
12-16-2001, 10:44 AM
Whoa....GSR!! all da way. Aftermarket is awesome:alien:

markpa
12-16-2001, 01:45 PM
i agree the gsr is the better choice its cheaper, and you can do much more to it, however if you compare both cars stock, for power the celica is better.
its noth worth it though,

Moppie
12-16-2001, 07:36 PM
Watch where I move this theard to...............


wow, cool aye, a Car comparisons forum.

LjasonL
12-16-2001, 10:54 PM
gsr no doubt. for having 180 hp and a 6 speed, celica gts are amazingly slow. i was kinda worried the 1st time i raced one, knowing how much power it had, the trans it had, and since this one was lightly modified, but i smoked the hell out of it. 2 of em ive raced, and let me tell u i feel VERY confident against these things. gsr's however, one with an intake and exhaust can almost catch me. ALMOST is the key word though. heh heh ;)

del
12-16-2001, 10:59 PM
i dont' think the gearin in the gt-s is matched too well with the power. everyone's right, 180hp is plenty for a small car like the celica. how would you match up the gt-s with the rsx-s?

JBL85
12-17-2001, 05:48 PM
If im not mistaken......there was another of these posts...

actual real life comparisons the GTS is faster. I am a GSR person, but unfortunatley it isnt as fast when both cars have been properly broken in. Some guy at my school can barley beat Type-R's, but he has intake and exhaust, but thats pretty good for a car thats a lot cheaper then a Type-R

also depends on driver

which is better for reliablity....common there both japanese =)

comfortable....i like gsr...interior goes to celica though

Integra-F20C
12-18-2001, 10:00 AM
well..GTS was made out around 00'?...6-7 years later after GSR was made..the GTS should beat the GSR with it's 6-7 years newer technology and it's 6-7 years more experimental time..but uhh..well..GTS should be the winner..but which is better?..u guys decide..
but however...the GTS was said to be made to compare with the ITR as said on Motor Trend back on..due to it's price..so they did a comparison..it lost everything to ITR in every comparison....so uhh..u guys decide which is better:smoker2:

oh yea..i hope the toyota forum guys don't wonder into here..:smoker:

F20C
12-18-2001, 11:52 AM
Go find a PRE-OBD2 GSR and it will have a much better chance against ITR and GT-S.

JBL85
12-18-2001, 08:49 PM
My friends OBD2 whatever is the pre inegra can beat all my friends with newer modded gsr's


its kind of funny, oh well =)

del
12-18-2001, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Integra-F20C
well..GTS was made out around 00'?...6-7 years later after GSR was made..the GTS should beat the GSR with it's 6-7 years newer technology and it's 6-7 years more experimental time..but uhh..well..GTS should be the winner..but which is better?..u guys decide..
but however...the GTS was said to be made to compare with the ITR as said on Motor Trend back on..due to it's price..so they did a comparison..it lost everything to ITR in every comparison....so uhh..u guys decide which is better:smoker2:

oh yea..i hope the toyota forum guys don't wonder into here..:smoker:

newer doesn't necessarily imply faster or even better. and "6 to 7 years new technology and it's 6-7 years more experimental time..." can you elaborate on this please?

JBL85
12-19-2001, 12:48 AM
very true.....i was laughing at what he wrote myself......but the gsr wasnt made to compete wiht gts, gts was made to compete with it

so they should have the upper hand anyway it goes and celica has been around even longer then a GSR btw

Integra-F20C
12-19-2001, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by del


newer doesn't necessarily imply faster or even better. and "6 to 7 years new technology and it's 6-7 years more experimental time..." can you elaborate on this please?

sorry for my bad english..my bad..but i mean as in..the celica have the advantage as they are 6-7 years newer..which mean't..u know..newer cars always have the advantage since they will make a engine that will be better since newer engines are always wanted to be made better then older engines..so since the new celica came out around 00' and the B18C came ouyt around 93'...the celica engines should be the better engine....plz get my point prelude driver..:D

JBL85
12-19-2001, 10:08 AM
Hey INTEGRA-F20C

yeah its newer, but then why is the ITR motor making more horsepower, 6-7 years doesnt mean anything when they are getting 195hp.....its just they didnt want to spend teh extra money in the GSR to make it faster cuz then it would cost more. Try another viewpoint to make an arguement about it =)

F20C
12-19-2001, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by del


newer doesn't necessarily imply faster or even better. and "6 to 7 years new technology and it's 6-7 years more experimental time..." can you elaborate on this please?

Newer does have advantage. Technology advancement happens so fast that you either keep up or be left in dust. For example new VVT, new welding method etc.

JBL85
12-19-2001, 03:23 PM
uhh.....well then they could upgrade the GSR

BUT THE QUESTION JUST SO HAPPEN TO BE WHICH IS BETTER

THE TOYOTA CELICA GTS IS A BETTER CAR TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION....DONT MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE CAR

F20C
12-19-2001, 05:56 PM
The car actually got downgraded when OBD2 went into effect.

Anyways GT-S is a much better car than GSR in my mind. However Keep in mind that Honda B Series engine have a much better aftermarket support. I am not making any excuses I am just saying the truth.

del
12-19-2001, 07:13 PM
the integra has the experience. it's the veteran of the sport compact market as we know it. it's been the benchmark for sport compacts for years and built itself quite a name in the sport compact market, particularly in the aftermarket. during its time, the integra will have become invincible and it still remains a very strong alternative in the market. the gt-s is new, and it's trendy. i think it's a valiant first effort and a huge improvement over the previous celica. i'm just now getting used to its looks. and i'm looking forward to a gt-s/rsx-s rivalry to grow.

mikesarr_GSR
01-13-2002, 10:14 AM
Personally, I like the Celicas. Its taken me a while to get used to them
but I think that they are a sharp car. I drive a stockier than stock
GSR and I can hang with a GTS. The 1/4 mile stats are virtually the
same on them and the GSR and Celica both being in the 15.1-15.3 range depending on the driver. If it isnt a GTS, I run away from the
Celica from the start. I had one try me from the line one night and
I hit a 4-5K launch and stuck it. Dude backed off in less than 1 gear,
it was sad. One day some modded ITR guy will do me the same way... but that will be fun too =) I floated the valves on 1/8/02 during a missed shift. Bummer? =( =D My car is apart and I decided that I want to be in the neighborhood of 180hp on the dyno in a couple months. I only have 36K miles... hey, you play ... you will pay eventually guys. My ACT HDSS clutch is on my coffee table being put in tomorrow along with new ITR valves (same part # as GSR) and springs (lighter and beefier in ITR with inners and outers on all valves, should be good for 8500 RPM) and I am having a JDM ITR or a JDM CTR intake cam shipped in when this all breaks in. That should be good for 10wHp or so. My setup is still at stock rideheight, so I want to fix that asap. Any input on the best spring rates and shocks to run on the street will definately be taken into consideration. Any input on JDM cams for B18C1?

mikesarr_GSR
01-13-2002, 10:21 AM
My buddy has a RSX-S and he took me for a ride. He gets a
wheel in 3 gears; better clutch than the GSR. Although,
it needs a different cam profile. There is nothing in that
car below 5K rpm. Perhaps a VTEC controller / JDM
intake cam combination will fix that. I heard from the
ACURA guys that they have already have had two mechanical
overrevs in those cars already. They swear by the B18C1/5.
I guess they havent had the time to become confident in the
RSX yet. As of now, the RSX-S is a Celica Killer.

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