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jswillmon
12-06-2003, 12:37 PM
Hey everybody, I have been floating around the forum for a while but i think this is my first post. :nutkick:
I have been building for a while ( hope to be able to show some pics after christmas) but just starting to get serious.
Anyhow, i'm in the market for an airbrush and a compressor. I've been looking around and found a kit on Airbrushcity.com that comes with 3 airbrushes ( 1 dual action and 2 single), a compressor, and accessories. I really don't know anything about them, can anybody tell me if the kit is worth it or is it a waste of money.

http://www.airbrushcity.com/1510.htm

I would really appreciate comments, pros and cons.
Thanks,
Jesse

P.S. I'm from Alabama, anyone else from alabama

Ragnarok043
12-06-2003, 02:09 PM
you can get a better airbrush with a compressor for around the same price. Harbor Freight (http://order.harborfreight.com:9100/EasyAsk/harborfreight/results.jsp?ts=Sat%20Dec%2006%2012:00:40%20PST%202 003) carries a wide variety of compressor for under $100, ive heard a lot of good reviews about this Campbell Hausfeld compressor (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41808).

now for the airbrush i highly reconmend Iwata, IMO they make the best airbrush. you can start off with their entry level airbrush the Revolution for about $70. they use a single needle setup for wide coverage and fine detail so no need to purchase extra needle and nozzles. i suggest going with the HP-CR, grav feed is more suited for hobbyist.

http://www.dixieart.com/Iwata_Revolution_Airbrushes.html

pflau
12-06-2003, 02:46 PM
while I dont know about the compressors mentioned (one with a air tank for < $100 = my gosh that's TOO good!!!?!?!?!?!) I do agree that the Iwata airbrush is the finest airbrush you can buy. I personally use the HP-B

http://www.arttalk.com/iwata/iwatapromo.htm#IWATA%20HP-BPlus

it should cost less than $100 if you look around.

I dont like the badger. had one once and it splattered.

Ive never used paasche.

rx7king
12-06-2003, 02:58 PM
im not to good with airbrushes, but would like to get better with them, i have one, but would like to get a tamiya one, How do you guys clean your air brushes quickly and effectively?

Ragnarok043
12-06-2003, 03:18 PM
im not to good with airbrushes, but would like to get better with them, i have one, but would like to get a tamiya one, How do you guys clean your air brushes quickly and effectively?

Tamiya airbrushes are nice, but parts are very hard to get a hold of. which is another reason why i reconmend Iwata.

the quickest way to clean an airbrush for switching between colors is to first fill the paintcup with thinner. retract the needle and place your finger over the nozzle. depress the trigger lightly with your finger over the nozzle it should force the air into the nozzle and into the paint cup causing it to bubble. dont press too hard or the thinner will come shooting out into your face. then empty the paint cup by either dumping or spraying the thinner out. do this a couple of times til the thinner stays relatively clear.

for an effective thorough cleaning between painting sessions, an ultrasonic does a good job. if you dont have an ultrasonic cleaner you should look into investing for one. but if you cant afford one you can use a set of tiny pipe cleaners to get into get every crevasse. Mascot makes a set of micro cleaners suitable for the cleaning airbrushes.

beginner
12-06-2003, 03:30 PM
what's a ultrasonic cleaner?

Ragnarok043
12-06-2003, 04:06 PM
what's a ultrasonic cleaner?

most of you are probably familar with ultrasonic cleaners for jewleries. its great a blasting dirt away in tiny nook and crannies, which its why they use it for jewleries. this site can explain how it works

http://www.processequip.thomasregister.com/olc/73205817/howworks.htm

beginner
12-06-2003, 04:12 PM
Ok, how much doe's one of those cost and where can I get one?

Thanks!

jswillmon
12-06-2003, 04:37 PM
So back to the question in the beginning of the thread.......looks like noone hase any positive things to say about the kit. I just figured that since it came with 3 airbrushes and an assload of accessories that it was a decent deal. I have seen similar compressors for the same price for just the compressor.
anyways thanks

pflau
12-06-2003, 04:42 PM
ease of cleaning is one reason I recommand a gravity feed airbrush.

RallyRaider
12-06-2003, 04:55 PM
I agree with many above in recomending an Iwata airbrush. I've got a Revolution CR and it is great in every respect. You can pick one up for US$60 at Dixie Art (http://www.dixieart.com/Dixie_Art_Supplies_Airbrush_Main_Page.html).

Ragnarok043
12-06-2003, 05:34 PM
Ok, how much doe's one of those cost and where can I get one?

Thanks!

theyre not cheap, the one i got was from The Sharper Image. it normally costs about $80 but my bro works there so i got the hook up. you should be able to find one on Ebay for about $40 though.

jswillmon
12-06-2003, 08:02 PM
i've also been looking at getting an aztec a4709.

Ragnarok043....thanks for the link, i'm going to check into this compressor
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47407
does it look like it would work?
thanks again
Jesse

Ragnarok043
12-06-2003, 08:38 PM
i've also been looking at getting an aztec a4709.

Ragnarok043....thanks for the link, i'm going to check into this compressor
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47407
does it look like it would work?
thanks again
Jesse

i had an Aztek before, it gave me alot of trouble. i got an Iwata and never looked back. that compressor looks alright but its probably pretty noisy, the Campbell Hausfeld compressor should be more quieter.

malsheem
12-07-2003, 12:35 AM
I've used both Aztec and Iwata airbrushes. Nothing wrong with Aztecs, but the Iwata (I use the Eclipse CS) is FAR superior. If you're serious about airbrushing, get the Iwata. The extra money is well worth it. You won't need another airbrush again. And go for gravity-fed rather than bottle-fed.

pflau
12-07-2003, 01:44 AM
there is nothing wrong with Aztec EXCEPT that the air intake is TOO NARROW so that you need a POWERFUL compressor.

when I switched from air can to a cheap compressor I had to sell my aztec and bought a iwata because the compressor just wouldnt drive the aztec.

Ragnarok043
12-07-2003, 03:36 AM
well heres the list of probs i had with my Aztek. its way too light and gets knocked over really easy, it cant even handle the weight of the airhose. it eats alot of air and the little rubber hose they use for an airvalve wore out. the only nozzle that worked was the general purpose one and that wouldnt work right half the time, good luck trying to get the fine detail nozzle to work at all. the way the other optional nozzles were designed, lining up the needle with the control pin can be a difficult. the seal for the control pin leaked on me too, leaking paint into the body. its also pretty hard to get any fine control with a floating trigger.

jswillmon
12-07-2003, 11:24 AM
Looks like if i was to reade all of these replies and then go out and buy anything but the iwata gravity fed airbrush i would be nothing more than a horses ass! :jump3:
I really do apprecieate the info, i also believe that i'm going to buy the Campbell Hausfeld compressor b/c just reviewing the diffrencs b/t the two, i can't find a good reason not to spend a couple of extra $'s.

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