Big Bang Theory

I was wondering if any of you remember this, I use to study this theory but now I totaly forgot, what it was about does anyone know what it is all about??

A bunch of particals appeared from knowhere and came together, compressed and then exploded..Poof. Here we are.

you just took 12 pages and compressed it into one line

I myself never really believed in the big bang theory. But that's just me. I find it just a bit too far fetched that something as complicated as the human body and mind would be created by an explosion that should actually destroy.

I believe in parts of the theory but not the whole thing.

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theres explosions and novas goin on all the time in space. Whats not to beleive? Hell we revolve around a huge burning ball of gas that wont be there someday

A bunch of particals appeared from knowhere and came together, compressed and then exploded..Poof. Here we are.
Lmao, very concise

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You must carry a lot of cash in your pocket. Thanks for the compliment on the Chevelle.

theres explosions and novas goin on all the time in space. Whats not to beleive? Hell we revolve around a huge burning ball of gas that wont be there somedayThe only problem I have with the theory is the part where something appeared from nothing.

Lmao, very concise

I'm a firm beliver in K.I.S.S.(Keep it simple stupid.):smile:

Well according to the big bang theory there would not have necesarily have been something from nothing. Matter that already existed could have come together and compacted in a very small space via gravity, then quickly expanded to form our universe.

As for how this matter was formed, it could have always existed and i consider this similar to the thought that God has always existed.

it is physically impossible for somthing to always have existed,
god is not considered as matter, but a being.

any evolutionists here? i would like to know what ya'll think about the big bang theory?

everyone of the evolutionists i have known throughout my entire life have never given me a straight answer about how the earth got here.
(not a cut at any evolutionists, i respect all of them)

it is physically impossible for somthing to always have existed,
god is not considered as matter, but a being.

any evolutionists here? i would like to know what ya'll think about the big bang theory?

everyone of the evolutionists i have known throughout my entire life have never given me a straight answer about how the earth got here.
(not a cut at any evolutionists, i respect all of them)

It is as physically impossible that matter had always existed as God to have always existed. and what do you mean that God is a being? Its kind of contradictory to say that it is impossible for something to have always existed, then say God is a being and had always existed. But i kind of understand where you are coming from if you are implying that God created time.

well, if you believe in god, like i do, god created everything known to man which includes time. i didn't describe it the best of ways, but god has been around forever ,to us. forever actually has no meaning to him, because god does not live in a place where time is present.

time is a very hard thing to grasp in general, but to me it is a duration, and continuance; not a series of moments.

With the big bang, all the matter in the universe that exists now was compressed into a really hot mathematical point. Had the temperature when it finally exploded been of -1/1000 of a degree, it would have recollapsed into itself long ago. +1/1000 of a degree and the matter would have been going too fast for gravity to let stuff collapse into stars and planets etc. Pretty neat stuff.. I think you should read "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking when you get the chance. It's advanced astophysics in laymens terms!

so what your saying is that the matter would have to be at an exact temperature to have worked out the way it did, wow, thats interesting. i guess this greatly increases the odds of it happening.then you add on the theory of evolutions odds, wow 1 out of a very large number.

Pretty much. Which gives me reason to believe in.. a god type thing.

it is physically impossible for somthing to always have existed,
god is not considered as matter, but a being.

any evolutionists here? i would like to know what ya'll think about the big bang theory?

everyone of the evolutionists i have known throughout my entire life have never given me a straight answer about how the earth got here.
(not a cut at any evolutionists, i respect all of them)

loismustdie,

I'm guessing you are a YEC (young earth creationist)..Someone who believes the earth is only about 10 to 20 thousand years old.
If you are I can understand where you are comming from. I have only recently become an OEC (old earth creationist.) I believe strongly in God and Jesus. I also believe that God created everything much the same way science describes it. I believe he set up the universe to be created (big bang) and put a set of laws up that governs the way things work.(gravity ect..) I believe in evolution also. There is just too much evidence out there for me not too(IMO). Evolution bothered me for a while because it doesn't fit with in with the book of Genisis about Adam and Eve. I have my own theory on that though.

Anyway, I guess I'm not leading up to a point here except to say I believe God created the universe like science describes it which to me doesn't go against the scriptures.

It's all good though.

I look at this much the way one of my favorite authors (Thich Nhat Hahn, a buddhist monk) looks at it. He says, as do most Buddhists, that things do not live and die they simply change from one form to another in a great cycle of continuation. When the conditions are right things manifest (big bang theory) and when they are not they don't. I don't belive that this was something that only had one chance to happen. This could have happened 5 times or 20 billion times before all of the conditions were all correct and it (the universe) manifested. Science tells us that "in a chemical reaction matter is neither created or destroyed" it simply changes from one thing to another and eventually changes again in a contiuous never ending cycle. as for the beginning of the universe as a single event that only had one chance I doubt it. but as one time of success out of an exponitialy greater number of times it failed I can belive. If you wish you can call this great event God, but I personaly will not.

thank you for that science lesson, but it is still not clear on how the matter got here. i understand fully how there can be more than one "big bang" if you know anything about string theory, it suggests that our universe is sort of like a slice of bread in a loaf of bread, the other slices are other universes , and that one of the other universes collided with our universe and gave it a jolt and could have given enough energy to create the bang, and this could have happened numerous times. but string theory has one fault, it cannot be proven correct or incorrect, and most scientists don't like the idea that matter has been around forever, so they don't pay much attention to it, and i wouldn't expect any more from you.

The most widely accepted theory among scientists that deal with these things regularly in their respective fields of work happens to answer a few different "why/how" questions simultaneously. The whole world, as you know it, is comprised of mostly random events. Every so often, there is a random reaction between any two (or group of) things that creates unique and greatly scaled events. If you accept this as truth, what follows is implied:
Assuming our dating methods are correct, the world is approximatly 4.5 billion years ago, but life on earth emerged only 3.7 billion years ago. This has been scientifically proven. I've seen the evidence, if you wish to see it too, talk to me. Anyway, provided the first prokaryotes emerged 3700 mya, they had to come to existence as well. This theory states that there was some reaction that created some product that just happened to produce life. It's a lot more tricky, but there are novels addressing the specifics.
SIMILARLY, at one point, there was some sort of cataclysmic collision that caused a long string of events which opened up several opened theories.
Your question of what that original collision was caused by simply cannot be answered or backed up. God, the Gods, luck. Whatever suits your liking, it's just as difficult to explain how those rocks managed to form a little bubble to sustain some kind of membrane and form a living nucleus.
It's wierd s--t, man. I don't know.;)

I thought the big bang was caused by when matter met antimatter. This combination causes the most violent type of reaction between two subjects. (even more violent than two subjects on the jerry springer show)

It's also kinda hard to explain the big bang before a certain point - the rules of physics break down and everything goes all helter-skelter and runs amok after a certain density is reached. Hell, iirc, they theorize that it was all neutrons in the beginning, then some of them decayed into protons.. or the other way around. I gotta find that book. Either way, there was much craziness when the universe began.

when i say collision i didn't mean, to big rocks, that is not how it it theorized to have happened, just everything compressed to a very small point, you should watch a show on the book "the elegant universe" it was on pbs, and you can see the episodes at pbs.org, i believe. the big bang theoretically would need a jolt, or alot of energy to cause it to "bang", string theorists have come up with an explination which is: that our universe collided with another universe which gave it a jolt. i haven't heard any other theories of where the energy or jolt came from.

and i am aware that everything on the quantum level is extremely random and everything on our level is fairly simple(in comparison to the quantum level). and small things can lead to much larger things, but this implies nor suggests anything. especially that the earth is 4.7 billion years old, and life emerged 3.7 billion years ago, etc...

please do post proof, i'm interested, and which dating methods are you talking about, carbon dating, isotope dating, etc...

Carbon dating is a joke, you can send in a chicken bone thatyou just ate off of and it will come back saying that its 100 million years old.

Really, I'd like proof of that please.

Big Bang theorists now concede it may have just been an RX7 back firing on a cold stellar morning. :redface:

Well you can get proof in about 6 weeks, send in a chicken bone and you will get it.

Really, I'd like proof of that please.

Big Bang theorists now concede it may have just been an RX7 back firing on a cold stellar morning. :redface:

I take it RX7s have a problem with back firing on cold days.