AWD drifting?
Turboaddict
12-02-2003, 08:10 PM
question has anyone done this in a awd eclipse?
also I read somewhere were a guy disengaged the front wheels to make it just a RWD something to do with the center dif ...that possible?
may get one for drifting as I don't like nissians and can't afford a supra, wrx, lancer.
marcus
also I read somewhere were a guy disengaged the front wheels to make it just a RWD something to do with the center dif ...that possible?
may get one for drifting as I don't like nissians and can't afford a supra, wrx, lancer.
marcus
goalieman24
12-02-2003, 09:15 PM
yes it can be done although much harder than a rwd car. you are going to need a bit of power and very tuned suspension. if you really want to drift and dont have a lot of money, look at a toyota trueno. they make very good drift cars and from 1985 they wont run you a whole lot although you probably will have to work on it a bit
JoeWagon
12-03-2003, 01:27 AM
AWD dsm's arent the best drifters... i'd stick with something that has a proven record for being a drifter's choice on the track. im thinking of nissans especially, and later toyotas
kjewer1
12-03-2003, 03:48 AM
Any car with an open center differential was not meant to be driven sideways. But that can be changed. Probably better to start with a RWD car if thats important to you. But for what its worth, my car will go sideways in first for 100 feet or so on dry pavement if I ask it to do so :)
2of9
06-01-2004, 06:19 PM
Hey...sorry about posting an OLD A$$ thread, but has anyone seen a AWD Eclipse Drift? its possible, but has anyone seen one drift?
EclipseRST
06-01-2004, 06:27 PM
i have... my buddy does it in his car all the time! although thats what he set his car up to do, its fun as hell!
2of9
06-01-2004, 06:30 PM
hmm..can ya get a pic or vid of it. my friends still dont believe me when i tell them the facts...thanks
guitarXgeek
06-01-2004, 06:31 PM
Would AWD be easier to drift than FWD?
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2of9
06-01-2004, 06:37 PM
AWD is alot harder. but it depends on the weather. FWD drifting is possible; snow, rain, wet surfaces. In FWD, you'll be using the E-Brake alot more in the AWD drift. AWD, i heard is harder tho, because of the suspensions, balance and the control u have over the car. i also heard u would have to make all wheels spin...LSD...but i think AWD in a DSM is possible and would be harder than FWD drifting.
duckydsp
06-01-2004, 09:56 PM
I drifted in my gs. I actually didn't mean to but I did. I was going about 45 down the road and then my friend told me to take a left. I cut the wheel pretty quickly and cut the wheel my car did a 180 spin so I cut the wheel ito the turn and it caught and continued to go down the street.:smokin:
Nstyle29
06-01-2004, 10:59 PM
also have drifted in my GS-T, on accident...going on some country roads that i had never been on and a 90 degree bend had me hittin the break turning and gasin...scary but once i knew i wasn't in the ditch i had a little fun with it
2of9
07-20-2004, 05:56 PM
hey sorry about bringing back an old thread, but has anyone ever tried drifting in a AWD DSM? i kno its hard...very hard, but with money its possble.
JoeWagon
07-20-2004, 10:51 PM
hey sorry about bringing back an old thread, but has anyone ever tried drifting in a AWD DSM? i kno its hard...very hard, but with money its possble.
You ask a question, and then answer yourself... what do you want to know? Yes, if you had enough power you could spin the tires in 1st on an AWD, and you could probably do donuts if your drivetrain didn't break. Drifting though? There are a few videos on DSMtuners of drifting autox DSM's, try to find those. AWD is the OPPOSITE of drifting, so if anything you are pushing a car against it's natural abilities.
You ask a question, and then answer yourself... what do you want to know? Yes, if you had enough power you could spin the tires in 1st on an AWD, and you could probably do donuts if your drivetrain didn't break. Drifting though? There are a few videos on DSMtuners of drifting autox DSM's, try to find those. AWD is the OPPOSITE of drifting, so if anything you are pushing a car against it's natural abilities.
yoshimitsuspeed
07-21-2004, 01:07 AM
All my drifting experience is on dirt. Which is where I think drifting is most effective and least detrimental to the car and tires. The eclipse naturally has the tendancy to understeer (meaning the nose will push out before the rear end starts to come around) this can be counterd several ways
1 suspension tuning is deffinatley a good idea but for a poor bastard like myself you just have to learn to drive the car given it's natural properties
2 braking and turning method can sometimes be enough. as you apply brakes you load weight on the front tires giving you more traction to steer with, as well as lightening the rear allowing it to swing around more easily.
3 If you really want to get her coming around (We will say we are taking a left hand corner) as you are approaching the corner you cut to the far left side of the road, at the right time you swerve to the far right side of the road. This loads the suspension on the left side of the car, now you are entering the corner, as you initiate your turn the weight loaded on the left suspension transfers to the right. With the right brake and throttle controll the car will pitch into an awsome drift.
The dissadvantage of this is you have to time your'e approach just right far before the corner, and if your timing is off it's a lot harder to fix the problem than in a fwd.
Practice in a safe enviroment is key to not totaling yer ride
I hope this helps
Play on dirt
1 suspension tuning is deffinatley a good idea but for a poor bastard like myself you just have to learn to drive the car given it's natural properties
2 braking and turning method can sometimes be enough. as you apply brakes you load weight on the front tires giving you more traction to steer with, as well as lightening the rear allowing it to swing around more easily.
3 If you really want to get her coming around (We will say we are taking a left hand corner) as you are approaching the corner you cut to the far left side of the road, at the right time you swerve to the far right side of the road. This loads the suspension on the left side of the car, now you are entering the corner, as you initiate your turn the weight loaded on the left suspension transfers to the right. With the right brake and throttle controll the car will pitch into an awsome drift.
The dissadvantage of this is you have to time your'e approach just right far before the corner, and if your timing is off it's a lot harder to fix the problem than in a fwd.
Practice in a safe enviroment is key to not totaling yer ride
I hope this helps
Play on dirt
NOFX0617
07-21-2004, 03:55 PM
damn that looks like that is fun as hell i wish i could do something like that. but no us people in southern california dont get snow like that so im screwed.
JoeWagon
07-21-2004, 08:22 PM
You don't even know what you're missing. When I'm in the mood... I'm sliding around every corner on my way somewhere. Hell, ALL of my friends slide around DAILY and we all borrow our parents vehicles for the same purpose very often.
Get this, I take full bragging rights for being very good at controlled sliding around, since none of my friends can duplicate my moves. There is a local health club that has a parking lot in back, with FULL windows on the back wall. One time in particular my friends and I were just driving around to find places to slide, and I did spins for at least 50 people for a good solid 5 minutes. I wish we had a camera at the time. I swear there was a police officer working out inside too, but you can't do much arresting on a treadmill.
It's the only good thing about winter and driving.
Get this, I take full bragging rights for being very good at controlled sliding around, since none of my friends can duplicate my moves. There is a local health club that has a parking lot in back, with FULL windows on the back wall. One time in particular my friends and I were just driving around to find places to slide, and I did spins for at least 50 people for a good solid 5 minutes. I wish we had a camera at the time. I swear there was a police officer working out inside too, but you can't do much arresting on a treadmill.
It's the only good thing about winter and driving.
yoshimitsuspeed
07-21-2004, 09:08 PM
damn that looks like that is fun as hell i wish i could do something like that. but no us people in southern california dont get snow like that so im screwed.
I know there are dirt roads in cali, they work just as well
I know there are dirt roads in cali, they work just as well
bobmga62
07-22-2004, 03:11 PM
Hey guys..
As an olderster peeping into the Eclipse column... back in the "old" days, my MGA and later, an MGB were total drifters... we used to find some big parking lots and just pivot our cars around the cneter islands was great fun...
...and your parents car was always some rwd detroit ironowith way too skinny tires and a hefty V-8... very easy to throw around as well...
but sorry guys we started it close to 40 years ago!!!!
R
As an olderster peeping into the Eclipse column... back in the "old" days, my MGA and later, an MGB were total drifters... we used to find some big parking lots and just pivot our cars around the cneter islands was great fun...
...and your parents car was always some rwd detroit ironowith way too skinny tires and a hefty V-8... very easy to throw around as well...
but sorry guys we started it close to 40 years ago!!!!
R
Boomer1024
07-23-2004, 05:01 PM
i m young but i have a drift story for y'all i have a '90 cougar in my driveway v6 3.5L its not moded but its still fun to whip. i took it out one night and on my whay back there was an s turn on the bridge i was crossing. i'm going 45mph and the treads are low so i hit the turn and slide into the wall scraping up the side. i slid off the wall and to take the turn i pulled a 180 and kept going. 2 days later i hit a speed bump at 37mph and i guessi damaged the alternator because it won't turn over anymore
george536
07-23-2004, 08:06 PM
That video was great! i know some dirt roads over here were i live u can probably do that too. Imma go get my dad's gsx and try it out hahaha. imma break somethin lol.
yoshimitsuspeed
07-23-2004, 09:00 PM
i m young but i have a drift story for y'all i have a '90 cougar in my driveway v6 3.5L its not moded but its still fun to whip. i took it out one night and on my whay back there was an s turn on the bridge i was crossing. i'm going 45mph and the treads are low so i hit the turn and slide into the wall scraping up the side. i slid off the wall and to take the turn i pulled a 180 and kept going. 2 days later i hit a speed bump at 37mph and i guessi damaged the alternator because it won't turn over anymore
Did you initiate the slide on purpose?
I think it would make a better story if you painted a clearer picture in our heads, I have no idea what happend.
Did you initiate the slide on purpose?
I think it would make a better story if you painted a clearer picture in our heads, I have no idea what happend.
HIMfan1
07-24-2004, 01:09 PM
fwd drifting does it exest just wondering and what happens if you car has a auto trany then are you screwed please help
yoshimitsuspeed
07-24-2004, 05:55 PM
fwd drifting does it exest just wondering and what happens if you car has a auto trany then are you screwed please help
I have never really tried to drift an automatic but it shouldn't affect the overall techniuqe, it may require slightly different brake ant throttle input.
Just remember this if you brake you make the front heavier and the rear lighter, now if you start to steer the rear will start to come around. If you step on the gas it will make the front lighter and the rear heavier. If you start your slide and the rear starts coming around too far, most peoples response is to step on the brakes because they want to stop, but this only makes the problem worse. What you want to do in a front wheel drive is start aplying gas while steering into the turn and this should start to straighten you out. In a rear wheel drive you still wouldn't want to brake but you don't want to step on the gas because it will spin your tires making the problem worse. Another advantage of the fwd and rwd have over the awd is you can use your e brake to initiate the slide, at least assuming your ebrake locks your rear tires. I know some older subarus brake the front, this would be very bad.
Always start out in a safe place like a big dirt parking lot untill you have a very good understanding of your vehicles dynamics, and handling characteristics, And find people near you to teach you the finer points.
I have never really tried to drift an automatic but it shouldn't affect the overall techniuqe, it may require slightly different brake ant throttle input.
Just remember this if you brake you make the front heavier and the rear lighter, now if you start to steer the rear will start to come around. If you step on the gas it will make the front lighter and the rear heavier. If you start your slide and the rear starts coming around too far, most peoples response is to step on the brakes because they want to stop, but this only makes the problem worse. What you want to do in a front wheel drive is start aplying gas while steering into the turn and this should start to straighten you out. In a rear wheel drive you still wouldn't want to brake but you don't want to step on the gas because it will spin your tires making the problem worse. Another advantage of the fwd and rwd have over the awd is you can use your e brake to initiate the slide, at least assuming your ebrake locks your rear tires. I know some older subarus brake the front, this would be very bad.
Always start out in a safe place like a big dirt parking lot untill you have a very good understanding of your vehicles dynamics, and handling characteristics, And find people near you to teach you the finer points.
Boomer1024
08-27-2004, 01:12 AM
Did you initiate the slide on purpose?
I think it would make a better story if you painted a clearer picture in our heads, I have no idea what happend.
old cougars were luxury sedans and had a heavy ass. I didn't intend to slide but i pulled a 180 degree turn after sliding so i kept going in the same direction. the bridge was a sharp s turn and i guess i didn't have enough tread on the rear wheels
I think it would make a better story if you painted a clearer picture in our heads, I have no idea what happend.
old cougars were luxury sedans and had a heavy ass. I didn't intend to slide but i pulled a 180 degree turn after sliding so i kept going in the same direction. the bridge was a sharp s turn and i guess i didn't have enough tread on the rear wheels
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