3.4 Vs 5.0tpi Vs 5.0tbi

Im checkin out some older used camaro's (82-93 as im looking for a project car) I just wanted to know which engine is the best. The best as in cold winter start ups, dependability, performance, MPG and admittance to mods.

easy 5.0 TPI, at least out of the options you listed. obviously the 5.7L TPI is the best choice for the camaros of those years. the 6 banger is just that, a 6 banger, nuff said. and the 5.0 is a boat ancher as far as V8s are concerned, just cuz of a horrible bore stroke ratio. but as long as you buy a car that has been taken car of rather than abused, all three are good choices for a dependable driver. that will respond well to mods. just being me i would rank them in order from best to worst. 5.7L TPI, 5.0L TPI, 5.0L TBI, six banger. but all should be plenty dependable. oh, and the IROC i just bought with the 5.7L TPI averaged 23 mpg on the 1100 mile trip from arkansas to virginia where i live. and that was with the 6 and 8 cylender plug wires crossed, and a bad O2 sensor. although i do have 2.77 gears in it and an overdrive auto. but it is a frame of reference. my RS has a TBI 305, and gets about the same on the highway, and closer to 16-17mpg around town. havent driven the IROC around town yet, but its problly pretty close. dont know about the sixbanger, but its probly higher than those, but will be a slug performance wise, at least to the big dogs that run the V8's ;)

Well, i do know the 3.8 and 5.0 are pretty equaly, and the 3.8 may actually be better. Stock performance wise. 170vs200 est.

buddy of mine has a grand prix with the 3.8 and I have a 91 RS with 305 tbi, and he blew me away in the 1/4 mile, so yea, the 3.8 is better, when it's a stock comparison

...but, the 3rd gen V6 camaros didn't come with the 3.8, they had 2.8 and 3.1 as far as i know

yeah thats what i was going to say. the third gens did not have the 3.8 L V6, it was the 2.8 and 3.1, and did not have 200hp. im not sure what the rating is exactly, but i know it runs an 8.9:1 compression to the 9.3:1 of the V8s, and is naturally smaller, so i very much doubt it is faster than even the 305. but the 6ers did come with lower rear gearing than the 8s, but i dont think it would make tha much of a diff in the big picture. but yeah, the third gen V6 makes no where near 200hp stock, maybe like 120 or 130. but again, i dont really know, just basing it off experience.

yea, stock, the 3rd gen V6's run high 17's low 18's in the 1/4 mile, the 305 tbi running mid to low 17's

i have three words~Tuned Port Injection
the best to get n the 3rd gen

i agree, but i've had my TBI RS for 5 years now and i'm kinda attached, so i'm gonna make it the fastest 305TBI that i possibly can

I agree, my RS was the first one i got, but after driving the IROC with the TPI 350, i have got to say its the way to go. but i love that RS, and im gonna cry when i sell her to make way for the IROC, but hey, such is life right?

hey guys,im from the nissan forums but i have a question for ya'll,please help...
Is a 305 a 5.0l engine?
Is a 350 a 5.7l engine?
how many hp do these produce??
Thanx for the help,laterz..

the 305 is a 5.0L, and makes 170hp in the TBI setup, and 190hp in the TPI setup, the 350 is the 5.7L and made 230hp, those are all 1989 numbers, i dont know the other years, but i know the 350 TPI went to 245hp for the 1990 to 1992 years.

"the 305 is a 5.0L, and makes 170hp " blah... 1.6L Vtec = 160...

lol, yeah yeah yeah ssboy, we all know the 305 is a boat anchor, and has a horrrrrible power to size ratio, the 80's were not a kind decade to domestic performance. :(

lol, i thinkmy 85 TPi 5.o has more then enough gones in it, even tho i just found out i was only running in 7 cylenders, the push rod on the front cylinder on the the drivers side, (no clue what #it is) went thre the lifter, and got stuck., lol, is this a comen thing on the 5.0?

"the 305 is a 5.0L, and makes 170hp " blah... 1.6L Vtec = 160...
do ya'll like imports in here?? yah,the b16a makes 160 out of 1.6l! But honda civic engines suck anyway,they only do good above like 6,000rpm's(when v-tec kicks in)...the b16b,the type-R civic,is producing somewhere around 180hp+ out of 1.6l also,is there replacement for displacement?? :grinno:

some would argue thats what turbo chargers were invented for ;)

funny though, import guys always talk about power per liter, i know of an engine that makes 450hp per liter, revs to 30,000 rpm, and propells its car to a scale 260mph, but i wouldnt want it in my car. oh yeah by the way, its an RC motor. that displaces about .45 cubic inches. power is power, granted the 305 is a horrible excuse for a V8, but it still makes 10 more hp than that Vtec. regardless of how many hp are made per unit of displacement.

I figured this might be approprite..

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_172_full.jpg

lol well put :-D

I love that SS boy, but I don't think I want to get into this thread. I might get myself in trouble.

lol, when has that stopped us before :) TALLYHOE!!!!!

I don't know. I'll throw numbers out there and some one's gonna try to call me out, then I have to spend all that time proving myself again.
Drink up me hardies, YO HO

the pirates life for me!!!! a BUTT pirate..... SAVY!!!! :)

You skallywank

definately when it comes to the chick in the movie, what was her name, kera or something. dude, i would skally-wank all OVER that :)

CamaroSSBoy346

bro that rocks man

We'll have no skylarking here...
Horseplay leds to sickbay

yeah, but if your goin to sickbay, helloooooo NURSE!!!! ;) what can i say, im encouragable :) oh dude, mental picture, the kera chick in a sexy nurses outfit............................................ .................................. oh sorry, brain shut down for a second there ;)

lmao

fellas i was on a sub let me tell there aint no nurses there..unless you well you know ummm like guys...not that theres anything wrong with that but thats not me...
The Quack the only on there to help...

you got it on with a duck?????? is that possible ;)

sweet ride

spank you very much :) i get lost sometimes, just sittin there, stairing at her, then i realize im very very horney.... is that strange??? lol :)

she's pretty :D

6 or 8?

all in the photo work guys. im a photographer, so i can hide all the little things ;) tricks of the trade and so on and so forth, savy. pics were at sunset, i shimmied up a ten food pole at the local school, parked the car out back, and took some shots, i was pretty surprised they turned out that good actually.

both my babies are 8's, this one has a TBI 305, the IROC has the TPI 350.

I got some better ones too, just hafta dig them up, i'm no photographer tho

where's the iroc pics?

Speaking of IROC, I bought an IROC airbox from ebay, and i'm going to fabricate it to work with the TBI air cleaner housing, when it's done i'll post some pics of that, i do have a pic of someone else's that done the same thing, gotta dig that up too tho

sweet, your camaro looks pretty polished too, looks like your front wheel is broken off though :) oopps!! as far as pics of the IROC, just bought her a little while ago, had to park her in the carport, and then the trans blew. priority is to make her pass inspection, and run, then ill get around to takin pics. besides, im a bit afraid. the RS got a massive lincoln shaped redisign of the driver side about two days after i took those pics. so im afraid my house might fall on the IROC when i shoot her :( and sweet idea on the airbox deal, im curious to see what that will look like.

well in that pic, the wheel is in a dip in the driveway and is turned, but it's not broken, and it was takin in summer of 1997 soon after purchase, since then my former roommate backed into the pass. door and gave it a nice dent, and a drunk lady rear-ended it while it was parked on the side of the road, yay, funny thing tho, the entire front end of her ford escort was shattered all over the road and all i got was minor bumper cover damage.

I like the way you put that "massive lincoln shaped redisign of the driver side" sounds funny but I know it's not

lol, why OH WHY are these cars such.... well, car magnets :( i mean its great that they are chick magnets, but the car thing can go man. :)

my way of disarming blind homicidal rage with humor ;) car was friggin cherry, i was seriously about to kill the other driver, then i saw it was this terrified littel asian woman, and i restrained myself. damn near tore through my punching bag that night though :)

oh and im still waiting about that duck...........

well it was dark, and my car is, well, dark, and she was drunk, it was nuts, she was slobbering everywhere, begging me not to call the cops, i'm surprised I didn't assault her, i guess her condition was too humorous

http://sugebear.tripod.com/dragster.jpg I think my camaro can take that...

damnit, it didn't work

umm ok

aha, i uploaded it to the wrong site

There it is, i'm gonna build one of those.

Hey bro those are some really nice rides....

I'm jealous now

*cartman voice* Screw you guys I'm going home

yes genopside, im quite sure your camaro is faster than an observation building ;)

oh and vlad, dont go, wed miss you, and thanx for the compliment.

that hurt....bad :(

uh...did i miss something..?

Vlad_Tepes, is that thing a holden ute, what is it? and, how much would it cost to get it into the states?

Im checkin out some older used camaro's (82-93 as im looking for a project car) I just wanted to know which engine is the best. The best as in cold winter start ups, dependability, performance, MPG and admittance to mods.
The best engine for a "project car" is a blown (broken) engine! If it's a "project car" aren't you gonna replace the turd under the hood anyway? :p

Boots..

yeah it is...
Its a Holden Uterus...
As for buying an old here is like a 2500 bucks USD
They have (some not all) crap motors and tranny's.
Shipping prolly about 2 grand.
But if you get a new one man thats about 40k+
The new ones has IRS and 285KW which is about 380HP (I think thats flywheel)