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ah-chee
11-27-2003, 08:50 PM
During the begining of the movie, the skyline R34 smoked into the crowd. wanna ask does anybody know how did they do or install to blow all those smokes, or fog out? :confused:

RazorGTR
11-27-2003, 09:55 PM
It was suppose to be a NOS purge. Very gay as the NOS system wasn't hooked up to the engine at all. Rice like that doesn't belong on a GTR

NISMO LMR
11-28-2003, 12:16 AM
Seeming as it was a MKIV GTE Toyota engine anyways. Wasnt even a "REAL" Skyline, but hell, I'd take it. Ive seen Skylines powered by VQ's, VG's, L engines... anything that will fit in there. haha. Anyways, its some gay Co2 system they hooked up, but hell, it did look pretty sweet in the theatre. haha. peace

raysoh8
11-28-2003, 12:25 AM
if "nitrous purging" is gay, why would the script make that guy do it in a crowd? so they would all laugh at him? what good does "nitrous purging" anyway? if he wants smoke, get a smoke grenade or fire extinguisher. its far cheaper than wasting nitrous imo

NISMO LMR
11-28-2003, 10:37 AM
Yea I think its pretty stupid... BUt you have to look at it from THEIR view. They had a picture of a Skyine shooting some N2O about 20 foot in the air in Super Street, so 2fast2queer HAD to put it in their movie, haha. One thing I am getting, that I got from the movie is: The flame thrower kit... Now I know thats gay, but man, PERFECT tool for when someones riding you. Haha. Then he runs you down "I dont know what the big deal is man, your headlights look cool blacked-out!"

Flame thrower :) (http://autoloc.com/detail.lasso?itemid=flame2)

RazorGTR
11-28-2003, 12:58 PM
Seeming as it was a MKIV GTE Toyota engine anyways. Wasnt even a "REAL" Skyline, but hell, I'd take it. Ive seen Skylines powered by VQ's, VG's, L engines... anything that will fit in there. haha. Anyways, its some gay Co2 system they hooked up, but hell, it did look pretty sweet in the theatre. haha. peace

The R34 GTR in 2 Fast 2 Furious was orginally owned by Sean Morris of MotoRex. It was purchased by some clown and dressed up is all. As mentioned time and time again it was pretty standard, and NO it didn't have a MKIV GTE engine FFS. It still had the original RB26DETT in it.

NISMO LMR
11-28-2003, 01:16 PM
Hey Razor, Maybe you know something I dont. But I believe that they made 6 versions of this Skyline (maybe im wrong??) but IM SURE that in this magazine article I saw, it had a Toyota MK IV GTE engine in it. The turbo was on the other side opposing RB engine, and it even had the Toyota emblem right there on the head. And I know for a fact that they made many versions in RWD for stunts and wreck cars, so these were the Toyota powered Skylines I believe. I've read in many articles about this, I'll quot Motortrend July 2003 Vol. 55, No. 7 issue. Page65 8th paragraph, first line. " The normally 4WD Skyline was set up as a rear-driver for stunt purposes, making it a compelling Japanese interpretation of a Musclecar." So maybe Motortrend is wrong... Oh well. So I guess I cant trust the facts in magazines either? Thats my 2 cents worth. peace

flylwsi
11-28-2003, 01:53 PM
sorry bro. you're wrong.
it didn't have the supra motor in it.

NISMO LMR
11-28-2003, 03:25 PM
Look, I tried to pull up my magazine with a picture of the engine bay, cant find it. BUT I promise you that in that engine bay, something wasnt right when I first saw it... Then holy shit I noticed that the turbo was on what would be the intake side of the RB motor... Then I thought to myself, "doesnt the 2JZ have the turbo on that side?" then I saw on the head, that Toyota emblem. NO SHIT. I will continue to find the picture, if you please Razor, do some research on the topic. have a good one, peace

flylwsi
11-28-2003, 04:20 PM
the front driveshaft was removed to make it rwd.
you may have been looking at the wrong pic, if they did the article on the 4 cars, including the supra and the skyline.
not sure why they'd go and get the car, only to swap in a supra motor.

there's actually a skyline in japan (don't remember who the tuner was) that had a supra motor in a skyline, or maybe the other way around, a skyline motor in a supra...

but in this case, from everything that i saw, they were all rb powered...

was it in MT, or Car & Driver?
it might be on one of their sites...

RazorGTR
11-28-2003, 05:42 PM
Unless Leberman changed the engine in that car it would have the factory motor which would be the RB26. As I said it used to be owned by Sean Morris or by MotoRex can't remember truthfully now. The car was black and effectionately called "Black Bird".

fly the car you are or may be trying to think of is the Top Secret Supra. It has an RB26DETT with twin HKS 3037's in it producing over 800hp. That car was brought down here to New Zealand when Mr. Nagata came down. He also brought a blue R34 which was being setup for drags. That Supra how ever is NOT the same one that you have seen in video's in the past, it is another one in their stable that is more street than anything else.
He did just over 300km's on State Hwy 1 while down here.

I actually got to speak with Mr. Nagata on a side note thought an interpretuer. He speaks very little english so this was the best option. That has to be the most rememberable conversation I've ever had in my life! He is not very tall, but neither am I, but he's about 2 inches shorter than I am. Very soft spoken and reserved.

NISMO LMR
11-28-2003, 07:04 PM
Well like I said, I may be wrong... BUT WHY THE HELL WOULD SEAN SELL BLACK BIRD?!!?!??!?! Most beautiful Skyline I have ever seen. From what I heard, they apperently had extra GTE engines just chilling in the shop (they were going to build more stunt and wreck supras, and never did) and they didnt buy enough RB's for the extra demanded load, so they did the logical thing. Motor swap. And yes it was Motortrend July 2003 Vol. 55, No. 7 issue. Page65 8th paragraph, first line. Pretty cool article. The front page shows the Yenko Camaro look-alike and the Skyline sitting there just burnin their tires. It's pretty neat. Anyways, I just wanna get my hands on a NuR for just one day, haha... Road and Track are too lucky (April 2002 they test drove it along with RX-7 A-Spec) Anyways, if you find anything, give me a shout. Peace

Entreri33
11-28-2003, 10:31 PM
http://www.skylinegtr.com/SPOTLIGHT.html


here is the link that tells all about the movie and the blackbird. I wish they had not painted it.

flylwsi
11-29-2003, 01:20 PM
why would sean sell it...
hmm...
have you looked at the car on www.rbmotoring.com?
it's far better/faster than the blackbird.

he doesn't sit on his ass and gloat about his achievements, he moves on and fries the bigger fish.

simply put, when you're in this market, you keep moving up and up...

NISMO LMR
11-29-2003, 08:07 PM
Yea I know, Ernie is pretty sick. But still, im saying that car is a sick piece of work. Haha, I mentioned to sean once...
"You have Big Bird yellow R33... U have Ernie...white R34... Why not make Elmo Red R32?" hehe. he liked the idea.

ah-chee
11-30-2003, 12:38 AM
yo yo, hang on the turbo on one side thing, i heard somebody said something about flame thrower kit, ya? ya i heard of it before and they said they just fixed another ignition system with a automatic cut off for the coil, any body had any idea of an efficient way to cut off the primany circuit of the coil? or any suggestions?

SkylineUSA
11-30-2003, 04:41 AM
An open, hook it to a switch and you are good to go.

raysoh8
12-01-2003, 11:22 AM
wait, a bit of history, the scc said the camaro-stripe skyline had an almost stock rb26, and it ran slower than a stock skyline, meaning- 280hp or less. but thats beside the point, somewhere along i heard that the car originally belonged to c.g, whoever he is, and it was called blackbird, it was black, it had a powerfully modded engine, the owner sold it for a diablo. then i saw another site that has photos of the original car, which was blue, had a sporty red line on the side, and was owned by the same guy, but after the movie was finished he painted it blue and red again because the fnf design was "horrible". and now someone says the car actually had a toyota engine in it. what the hell? someone tell me everything in a nutshell.

and dont flame me for being so curious in a shitty movie, i only want to know which is rumor and which is true. and yes i hate the movie, dont worry

SkylineUSA
12-01-2003, 11:37 AM
It did not have a Toyota engine.

Craig Leiberman(sp) Owned it, never heard anything about him selling it for a Diablo.

He was a buy out for the MAN! so he let them paint it for the movie, hey you gotta go for the cash some time in your life. lol

It was slow because it had no traction RWD only

SkylineUSA
12-01-2003, 11:43 AM
Let me go into this a little more.

GTRs are not set up for the 1/4 mile. The fact that they have a very advanced drive train that allows them to launch very well helps a ot with 1/4 mile times, but that is not what they are built for.

You disconnect the front trans-axle and you have lost that all important 60ft time. Say your busting out a 1.8 with the AWD, then you disconnect to RWD only. Now, your 60ft times are 2.2. What do you think that will do to your elapsed time for the 1/4? Do you think it will only shave off that .4 from the slower start? Of course not, your going to drop a lot futher than that, probably close to .8-.9 sec.

flylwsi
12-01-2003, 02:45 PM
do you really think that all 6 of the cars that were used in the movie were the blackbird?
do you really think that the stunt car used for some of the driving was the black bird?
the main car that the skyline was based on was craig's car, which was the blackbird. which was sold for a diablo. that info is in Nopi Street Magazine.

the main point here is that the cars didn't use supra motors to anyone's knowledge (that we can find), and that they were beat to shit and ran worse than a stock skyline. surprised? why?

they are worn out, have extra weight, and have burnt clutches, etc. why are you surprised that they ran slower?

come now kids.

why is this so difficult to believe?

NISMO LMR
12-01-2003, 05:52 PM
My god... Haha, my point exactly. What has previously crossed my mind is that BlackBird may have been left 4WD and left at the 520hp (correct hp? I dont feel like researching it) and used for all the speed shots, such as it tearing around the corners before being wrecked. Now for the actual wrecks, jumps, risky shots etc. I am guessing that the RWD Skylines were used. Make sense everyone? Just a fly though. peace

flylwsi
12-01-2003, 07:43 PM
of course it makes sense...
i doubt that the blackbird was used in any of the action shots, prolly more for closeups and what not.
but the skyline had such a minimal role anyways...

in any case, cars like that are treated with tons of respect, and used sparingly so they don't get messed up.

NISMO LMR
12-01-2003, 08:08 PM
Exactly. Oh and by the way guys. I asked Victor of RB Motoring, he says that Blackbird dyno'd out at 444bhp... He says it would have about 500-520 at the crank. Just thought I would let y'all know.

Guyanson_Mendiola
12-01-2003, 11:25 PM
isn't that those Nitrous blow off valves?

SkylineUSA
12-01-2003, 11:43 PM
Yes, it was a N2O purge valve.

SkylineUSA
12-01-2003, 11:45 PM
Yes, it was a N2O purge valve.

Here is a question, if you to put a lighter up to it when it was blowing out, what would happen?

a) Nothing
b) Blow out the flame
c) Make a big flame
d) Blow up the car

:smokin:

raysoh8
12-02-2003, 03:56 AM
a, and if you mean the lighters flame, b. i dont think nitrous is flammable.

if the blackbird had 444bhp, how come the painted one ran slower? i didnt think the chrismas tree decorations were that heavy.. but yes i think rwd was a real speed problem.

what color was the car? black or blue?

fly- well they had to leave one car alone for the closeups and for shows.. so they didnt make the blackbird soar like an eagle

NISMO LMR
12-02-2003, 06:44 AM
Well Blackbird... HENCE, the car was black. How do you know it ran slower? I think it moved pretty quitely in the shots that I saw it in (it was obvious which shots it was used in)... But the used Maya in so many shots (for animation) it was really kinda tough to tell which were done on computer, and which were really shot. If you really want I will link the fastautos link, post what Victor at RB Motoring told me, and post random sites on the Blackbird, so we can clear this all up, and stop talking about this movie. peace

SkylineUSA
12-02-2003, 09:06 AM
Your the only one in disagreement. We are all readding from the same sheet of music;)

The car posted pretty slow 1/4 times, as documented in SCC. The car did not have a Toyota engine. The front drive shaft was disconnected.

What is the debate about?

flylwsi
12-02-2003, 10:46 AM
"if the blackbird had 444bhp, how come the painted one ran slower? "

b/c the car that scc tested wasn't the blackbird. anything else?

come on. these cars were used and abused. they were ridden hard and put away wet. why do you think they ran shitty?
go look in the general forum (skyline) and you'll see a thread titled "I saw one for the first time"

it's almost a mirror of this thread.

"I think it moved pretty quitely in the shots that I saw it in "

i bet you think that the "action" shots on the covers of super street and import tuner Look quick too... it's all about how you use your camera. you can make any car look like it's moving fast, especially in a movie... ;)

NISMO LMR
12-02-2003, 04:32 PM
No I was just asking what is the source? I was curious?

raysoh8
12-03-2003, 01:25 AM
skylineusa- no debate, just stupid questions..

fly- yup i got the blackbird part

flylwsi
12-03-2003, 05:50 PM
No I was just asking what is the source? I was curious?

source of what?

Guyanson_Mendiola
12-03-2003, 06:55 PM
a, and if you mean the lighters flame, b. i dont think nitrous is flammable.

yes, i don't think Nitrous is flammable too but it's just air, but you might not know what's going to happened next.

NISMO LMR
12-03-2003, 08:59 PM
Look man, im not some douche bag kidiot who bases his entire opinions on what he reads in Stupid Street, I formulate my own opinions at any chance I get. I know photo and videographic editing techniques as well man, and I know how to make things seem as they arent. All I said was that I think blackbird was used in the speed shots, for obvious reasons. The rest of the 6 Skylines were RWD. so dont talk to me like im some dumbshit kid who saw 2fast2queer2manytimes ok? And by the way... How much for that patent? :)

raysoh8
12-04-2003, 12:32 AM
but you are some guy who is a tad too sensitive

SkylineUSA
12-04-2003, 01:17 AM
NISMO LMR,

The price should be on my wife's web site, www.Allen-Brown.com if not, let me know and I will ask her.

flylwsi
12-04-2003, 05:43 PM
Look man, im not some douche bag kidiot who bases his entire opinions on what he reads in Stupid Street

not sure what you're getting all huffy about, all that was asked was what source for what information you were referring to.

geezus man.

back to the question. what source were you talking about, regarding what information?

NISMO LMR
12-04-2003, 05:45 PM
Nah man its just the people will jump on your ass about miss stating one damn thing. So im on edge about that. Sorry. Anyways. I was wondering where you guys saw that the 2f2f car ran slower? Magazine? Online? Just curious.

NISMO LMR
12-04-2003, 05:48 PM
Cant find it on that website. Could you please ask her? Thanks. The patents per object or function Im guessing correct? Or is there some sort of discount for a bundle of objects? Because I have about... hmm... 3 items to get patented. If you could find out for me, that would be great. Thanks.

flylwsi
12-04-2003, 06:46 PM
the 2f2f cars were slower as posted in SCC mag.
www.sportcompactcarweb.com
not sure if it's on the site, but it's in the magazine itself.

read the article and see what's up...

compared to how fast the black bird was, the movie car that they tested (which was beat up and worn out) was slower.

NISMO LMR
12-04-2003, 09:46 PM
Ahhh thats too much effort... I'll take your word for it, seeming as it is a plausable statement. peace

flylwsi
12-06-2003, 11:29 AM
thank you

SkylineUSA
12-06-2003, 11:39 AM
Thats the problem with todays youth, give up because it to hard. ;p j/k

NISMO LMR
12-06-2003, 03:30 PM
Haha, I have no problem with doing difficult things in order to make myself better. There is no problem there. I just didnt feel like looking through a webpage where there isnt a definate result. But hey your right, im not going to be 17 forever, so why act like an adult eh? Everyone forcing children to "act their age" is taking away the best years of our lives, ones of which there are no worries, ones of which we will never get back... So why act mature then?... What the hell were we talking about? Haha. peace :p

SkylineUSA
12-06-2003, 03:40 PM
Tru Dat :biggrin:

NISMO LMR
12-08-2003, 09:06 PM
Haha, at least all of the adults in here still have a good grasp on real life. haha

Ford_Man_1984
12-13-2003, 09:05 AM
Skylines are the biggest loads of crap anywayz
i own the fastest car in this state
a 1984 Ford Falcon S with a twin paxton supercharged 351 cleveland
engine running avgas with a 300hp plate NOS kit...producing 1364hp without the nitrous!!!
theres a R33 twin turbo'd GTR skyline here that i raced and it didnt stand a chance...it was no drag race
im talking 100% pure street racing here boyz
NOTHING beats a V8
I mean NOTHING!!!!

SkylineUSA
12-13-2003, 10:11 AM
You put a couple of turns in that road, a GTR will eat your lunch.

How do I know this, because I own a both.

American V8, and a few GTRs.

Guys like you, give Americans a bad name around the world, thanks for showing what a jackass you are.

flylwsi
12-13-2003, 10:24 AM
ha.
are you serious?
you've got an 84 falcon, and it's the fastest thing in your state?

*cough*bullshit*cough*

and which state is that?
b/c i'm damn sure i can prove ya wrong...

NISMO LMR
12-13-2003, 11:40 AM
... Yea man, my buddy owns a 1970 Falcon with basically that same set-up, and the local GTS-T beat the hell outta the thing on the track (road course). Your just looking for some crap here man, and the forum doesnt need any more, F^CK off! :p

NISMO LMR
12-13-2003, 11:49 AM
Also keep in mind that in the JGTC in 2002. All Supras had 5.721 liter V-8's in them, and the Skyline's famous RB26DETT engine was replaced with a RWD(due to JGTC regs) VG30DETT drivetrain. And guess who was the 1 2 3 win? SKYLINE!

NISMO LMR
12-13-2003, 11:50 AM
O yea and one more thing. Keep in mind that the Skylines ATTESSA and HICAS was compromised in this DT swap. NO 4WD NO 4WS... And Supra had a 25hp advantage... Hmmmm? :D

NISMO LMR
12-13-2003, 12:49 PM
OOOoooo yea and one last thing. It occured to me that the Supra engine wasnt American V8 as you put it... But lets say the Corvette is an American V8 correct? Ok, well the Mosler MT900S finshed near last, and guess what engine she was sporting? Thats right, Corvette V8 engine. Also, the Viper was sporting a V10, finished near the middle. Well damn dude, I think your beat. Skylines are the SHIT! Some will never learn :p

Ford_Man_1984
12-14-2003, 06:30 AM
americans are the slowest people eva i must say
im from Australia NEW SOUTH WALES
it weighs 1165kg
5 link sway bars and a panhard rod on a 9" LSD ford diff with 4:11:1 gears and cross slotted and drilled rotars, rear coils with monroe sesatrac shocks
nolathane idler arms on a RRS rack and pinion
RRS struts in the front
and u think corners worry it...HA

and by the way....eva heard of the GT40??
look into it youll find that le mans got ripped to peices by it 1st 2nd and 3rd and it was a V8 ford...not even the V12 ferrari's stood a chance

and the fella with the mate who has the 1970 falcon has no idea
they had bloody leafs on the back of them buddy.

find a road registed skyline that can run 8's!!!
i cant wait till i hit the streets of miami with my falcon
you little rice burner boyz wont no what hit yous!!!!

raysoh8
12-14-2003, 08:18 AM
:screwy:
Skylines are the biggest loads of crap anywayz
hey, if you think that skylines arnt good enough for your australian style, why dont you put it in a less moronic and insulting way? like this- "IMO i dont think skylines are good cars because they are just not my taste, i like australian cars better" something like that. dont come in an internet disscussion board and fill the place up with bs about how fast your imaginary eagle thingy is, nor insult one of the best SPORTS SEDANS around. yeah iv heard of the ford gt40, i read that it beat a ferrari, but what is it? a SUPERCAR. S. U. P. E. R. - C. A. R. super, meaning, really really good in any way, car, meaning, a car. with wheels on it. :lol2:
you little rice burner boyz wont no what hit yous!!!!
rice burner? now thats just stupid. whered you get that from, the fast and furious? :rofl: i cant wait till i hit the streets of miami with my falcon :grinno: how about you go to japan and race some of the high powered skylines there?

Ford_Man_1984
12-14-2003, 08:29 AM
supercar huh
is that y they have been a production car since 1968???
read alittle more into it

"skyline"...the japanese term for "battle god" The torque of these things couldnt break a bread stick!!!
they were made to take out the FORD RS500 sierra in the rally comps around the world but they didnt...so the RS500 was banned from every race in the world!! sounds fair huh

hav u ever seen a skyline racing in tokyo????
its like going through a school zone..they dont break the 180mph barrier

imaginary car...i like that...lol

and the smilies youre using might be funny to a 6 year old but there not needed here

NISMO LMR
12-14-2003, 12:32 PM
Duuuuude OMG your facts our f^cking wacked out. Haha, my buddies Stagea over in Japan runs 8's street legal, and has a tops of over 230mph... Skyline front end conversion, and powered by the almighty RBX engine. 2750cc Mines N1 turbos, pushing well over a 1000hp. I dont think your realizing or grasping the power of the RB engine man. And I also think its funny that in 1991 the 787B powered by the 26B quad rotor Wankel engine beat the living hell outta everything in a 1 2 787B victory.. And guess how many 787's there were? only TWO. V8's are good I will say, but stop being a dick, dont come into a SKYLINE FORUM and talk shit. Your looking to cause some shit for some reason, your giving all American Muscle car drivers and bad name, and Australians a bad name. Go do some doughnuts or something man, peace

Ford_Man_1984
12-14-2003, 08:46 PM
if u wanna talk rotarys then whats the use
of course the 787B won the curcuit races but all around they hav nothing and yes here the fastest street car is a RX3 Rotary
but u put an RX3 in the ring and its got nothing

i wasnt talking top speed
but if i was think about the GT40 back in 1968!!! top speed of over 240MPH on the street and it was only running a 302 fuel injected naturally aspirated with 450hp

your might be right about the 8 second skyline but ive neva seen one and ive seen one run flat 9's and the f^ucking thing was shaking like all shite i thought it was gunna explod...and that was with the full drag box and differentials with 1000hp

if that skyline your buddy has in japan has ova 1000hp how much torque has it got??

id like to know what sort of power it puts to the ground

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