240sx or integra

right now i almost have enough money for a car and i cant decide whether to get a 240sx or an integra gs.....what car do u think has more potential and sum or the pros and cons for a 240sx........ try to conivince me why i should get a 240sx

if you need someone to convince to buy a car, i really don't think you would be happy with it, so don't buy one

i want sum ideas of what u may have done or like ur friends to their 240sx's and what kind of potential thay have over a honda 4cyl

i say get a dsm thats a eclipse\talon\laser
they are turbo and have crazy potintal.. faster then a integra and 240 with little mods..
dsm rulez
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dont those things come with a garret t25 i heard those turbos dont put out much.......what year talon or eclispe....tsi or gsx

integra. the 240sx is a terrible car

integra. the 240sx is a terrible car


is that sarcastic ...or...have u had a bad experiace with 240's.... got n e reasons

integra. the 240sx is a terrible car


:lol:


this is why we miss you, Kev.

ya kev we miss you :~

well I'd get the Talon over the eclipse, it's AWD so it can launch better and much better in snow. But, I don't like DSM motors b/c they rn't reliable. They won't last very long and will make u spend more on repairs. I chose Nissan b/c their engines r built to last, with power. As far as Acura goes, they're motors are one of the most reliable and longest lasting engines in the industry, but as for 240sx and integra, it's all a matter of preference. I don't like the integra's design, two beaty headlights and they're everywhere. I chose the 240sx b/c they're unique and I like the exterior styling more. Also it's RWD, can't go back to FWD anymore

thanks publice enimy ya im not really a fan of the talons eother but i live in vancouver and it rains here alot so the rear wheel night bee tuff. but i like the nissans engine better and the sr20det swap sopunds really tempting... but i would like to tame the stock 240sx engine before i do that cause ive only been driving for 7 months and dont wanna get myslef into too much trouble or accidents.

does anyone wanna share sum of their ideas of what they did t their stock 240sx....other then an engine swap....i wnana get an idea of the potential of the stock motor before i consider a sr20det swap or n e swap if i choose to buy a 240in the next couple months

integra vs 240, thats not an easy choice.
first off i like s13 240's and the second gen integra almost the same. i chose a 240 cuz i didn't want fwd anymore (i was actually in the market for an fc rx7 at the time) what year integra or 240 are you looking at? whats you intention with the car as far as motor sports go? how much hp do you want?
my ideas for both cars would be...
integra: massive suspension mods and an ls-turbo set-up (a turbo b18b, no vtec shit)
240sx: same with the suspension mods but i'm torn between a ca18det and an sr20det ( i know i'll end up with the ca cuz of school tho)

Get an integra LS

Better interior
Better reliability
More aftermarket, VTEC heads make the engine sound awesome.
Engine is a joy to rev.
Good steering and brake feel

Unless you plan on doing some competitive track racing or drifting, then the only reason you should get a 240sx is because of price; 240sxs tend to be cheaper than integras, including insurance.

The KA is more receptive to turbos than a honda engine, but if you had turbo in mind from the start then you wouldn't be asking us.

integra vs 240, thats not an easy choice.
first off i like s13 240's and the second gen integra almost the same. i chose a 240 cuz i didn't want fwd anymore (i was actually in the market for an fc rx7 at the time) what year integra or 240 are you looking at? whats you intention with the car as far as motor sports go? how much hp do you want?
my ideas for both cars would be...
integra: massive suspension mods and an ls-turbo set-up (a turbo b18b, no vtec shit)
240sx: same with the suspension mods but i'm torn between a ca18det and an sr20det ( i know i'll end up with the ca cuz of school tho)


i want a car that will be close to 200hp and i got enough money for the car its just turbo set ups on n/a motors would be outa the question.....im not gonna be doing any hardcore drifiting or track racing seeing as im 16 but in a few years probbly .....i just want a nice looking fast car that isnt too pricey....im looking at an 89-92 rx7 91-93 240sx se....integra ls or gs 92-93 ....i want the gsr but its really rare and pricey the b17

Get an integra LS

Better interior
Better reliability
More aftermarket, VTEC heads make the engine sound awesome.
Engine is a joy to rev.
Good steering and brake feel

Unless you plan on doing some competitive track racing or drifting, then the only reason you should get a 240sx is because of price; 240sxs tend to be cheaper than integras, including insurance.

The KA is more receptive to turbos than a honda engine, but if you had turbo in mind from the start then you wouldn't be asking us.

which car do u think would be easier to get around 200hp at the wheels naturally asperated a generation 2 90-93 integra b18a or a 240sx ka24de

how much fabrication does it take to put this ca18det engine into a 240sx

what do you drive now? Have you driven either cars? Go drive them and find out for yourself. If you are used to driving Hondas, a 240 is a whole different deal. Try driving a 240 on the highway in the rain. A lot of FUN!!!

i want a car that will be close to 200hp and i got enough money for the car its just turbo set ups on n/a motors would be outa the question.....im not gonna be doing any hardcore drifiting or track racing seeing as im 16 but in a few years probbly .....i just want a nice looking fast car that isnt too pricey....im looking at an 89-92 rx7 91-93 240sx se....integra ls or gs 92-93 ....i want the gsr but its really rare and pricey the b17


YOU DEFINTELY WANT TO BUY AN ACURA..........

it would be a mistake for you to buy a 240sx, from everything you have said you know, and what you want, I say the Acura is by far your best choice, a hell of a lot better choice then a 240sx for what you want. And your also younger and the Acura is going to cost less then a 240sx in the long run, especially if you want to mod anything.

which car do u think would be easier to get around 200hp at the wheels naturally asperated a generation 2 90-93 integra b18a or a 240sx ka24de

Probably the B18a. This engine has a relatively large N/A aftermarket, while the KA has very few N/A options.

how much fabrication does it take to put this ca18det engine into a 240sx
fabrication for a ca18det? ......start your searching

what do you drive now? Have you driven either cars? Go drive them and find out for yourself. If you are used to driving Hondas, a 240 is a whole different deal. Try driving a 240 on the highway in the rain. A lot of FUN!!!

i drive a 2001 on cavaleir and a 1990 dodge shadow. and the power and handliing isnt meeting my needs

what do you drive now? Have you driven either cars? Go drive them and find out for yourself. If you are used to driving Hondas, a 240 is a whole different deal. Try driving a 240 on the highway in the rain. A lot of FUN!!!

ive drove my buddies 95 integra rs and it was alrigth....and ive been in my budies 240 sx hatchback and it seemed to have better acccelereation and ahndle a lil better.....but i didnt get a chance to drive it cause he crashed it driftihn in the rain..lol

somewhere down the line say 2 years from when i buy either a integra or a 240sx im gonna probbly do an engine swap...if i got the teg i would do a b18c1 or c5 or if a get a 240sx do a sr20det...... has anyone done a sr20det swat and how did it feel.....im buying a carand probbly gonna kkep it for 5 years or so does so i wanna get an idea of a 240s potential.

the 240sx probably feels faster b/c it's RWD. RWD feels like it's more powerful and faster

dude forget about buying a 240sx lol, its not for you. You want a 200hp naturally aspirated car for a young buyer like yourself. The B18 will reach 200hp easily with quite a few bolt ons and you will be set. It costs a hell of a lot less to maintain, cheaper parts. And the aftermarket parts will also be cheaper then what you can find for a 240sx. For the price of swapping in a sr20det(around 5 grand) you put all that into an integra motor and it should be faster.

Also saying your going to keep the car for 5 years says you want an Acura too. Face it honda has better reliability then Nissan lol. If I wanted to keep a car for a long time it would probably be an Acura or a Lexus. It will be cheaper in the long run like I said. To get your 240sx back into its stock form will take some money to repair the suspension parts and brakes. While the newer Acura will not be as worn out.

Modified 240sx's aren't that great as daily drivers. They are more of a toy and something to use on a race track. Sr20's are not that reliable either, just about everyone who has one has major problems with them. Like I said good car to take out to the track for a weekend, not a good car to drive to work everyday

Normally I say go buy a Honda sarcastically, but for what you want, a Integra would actually meet your needs. Or an N/A rotary

I definitely think youll like the integra better...for a fwd car they have very precise handling and can definitely take turns fast before the infamous fwd understeer becomes an issue. A prelude is also a great handling fwd with very sound reliability.

The 240sx is a great car and I am planning to get one, but for your needs you seem like an integra would be a lot more useful. If you still want a 240sx after all the opinions against it then I suggest a test drive.

Both cars will definitely be a good choice...the integra will just be more reliable even with a lot of abuse. The integra will also handle age and mileage better than a 240sx.

Is the 200hp that you want to the wheels? or bhp?

wait did some one say dsm motors are weak? wtf? they are one of the strongest motors on the planet, come on they can hold 22psi on stock internals, its a freakin cast iron block as opposed to the aluminum block that most 4 clyd are.. that makes it really stong. the 4g63 is a strog ass motor.. with minor mods you can get into mid 12's that for all under 5g'.. btw not all talons are awd they have some that are turbo 2wd..
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tuned DSMs break A LOT. a buddy of mine has a 11 sec '96 gsx and it breaks down every time he takes to to the strip.

ummm.. i dont know about that i know alot of people with fast dsm low 12 sec and they are pretty reailable.. but any 11 sec 4 cyld will give some problems.. thats a given.. but for the most part a 12'sec dsm is pretty reliable.
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On another note, get a DA tegra and drop in a B18 Vtec. Clean DAs are some of the best looking Hondas.

On another note, get a DA tegra and drop in a B18 Vtec. Clean DAs are some of the best looking Hondas.

wat u mean by da.. and b18 vtecs are expensive

yeh 2nd gen dsm had problems, crank walk i beleive. I here it over and over again about them. 1st gen eclipses are the way to go. they are very reliable.

also about the nissan vs honda reliability, me and my friends all have nissans

- 300ZX Z32 w/a auto
- 240SX 5speed
- 300ZX Z31 5speed 15psi everything else stock
- MG w/ datsun engine
- 300ZX n/a auto with oil that has looked like tar for a year and still runs

these cars can take more of a beating then any car i have ever owned.

My friend with the Z32 is always street racing its normal for him to be doing 120, he neatral drops after "EVERY" stop. its a 1990 with 125k miles and so far no major repairs other then maintanence

240SX - we all no the beating these things can take

300ZX Z31 5speed 15psi everything else stock- this car has beaten 2002 v8 firebirds, has incredibly bad turbo lag. Must be pushing 275+hp he's been running it like this for months. its an 86 with 115k miles onit. Even the tranny is holding. This thing is totaly stock other then a boost controller and no exhaust.

MG with datsun engine - its old and runs mint

300ZX n/a auto - the oil is like tar and it still runs, we got it up to 110mph (and unfortunetly got pulled over :cwm27: )

Now but a honda into the mix, the kid with the Z32 had it, was red with white stripes and white rims. Couldnt handle neatral drops and was very slow couldnt keep up with any of us. Couldnt realy beat on it because you can do donuts, cant burn out, eventualy the v-tec stopped working and was no longer even a teensy bit fun.

I agree with Fliquer on the price aspect. I dont yet have a car, i drive a truck, but ive been torn between a teg or a 240sx for while now, and im strating to realy like the 89-94 240sx. They have a good aftermarket especially for the SR20DET and they are cheaper to buy and insure. Plus you cant beat the RWD. Good luck! Hard decision.

neutral drops will tear apart your transmission. Drop his pan and see how many metal shavings are on his magnet LMFAO....

the kid needs to learn how to powerbrake....

^ or get a 5 speed...lol...for quick jack-rabbit style starts you can't beat a stock manual trans vs a stock auto trans. If you want to beat on a tranny...get a manual...they take more abuse and cost huge amounts less to rebuild...let alone most of the abuse is done to the clutch which is a cheap replacement. Plus they weigh less and you decide what gear you want to be in...not some shit-for-brains computer.

Enough auto bashing lol...anyhow I seriously think Hondas aren't slow, but if you are taking an unmodified honda vs a few nissans (some of them running a bit more than stock hp) then it's no contest...I bet the honda had a 4 cylinder too...so the only other car you listed that it could probably keep up with is the 240sx.

Hondas also aren't meant for speed in stock form (except for the NSX..which isn't a honda here...but shut up)...they are meant for reliability and good gas mpg. A few mods or a motor swap and some mods will usually get some pretty good power.

As for Nissan, I'm sure they are reliable...I just doubt they are as reliable as a Honda.

Okay a ted=honda you should know this. Now from what I have seen about the dsm 91 1st gen eclipse with awd and stock turbo ran 14's. Thats preety quick stock, as to the teg vs 240 chicks just dig nismo, tegs are all over yet there are quite a bit of 240's but there just a good car. If you were to get a teg you would have a honda and have low costing repairs all the time as vs to the some what more pricey fewer repairs. In personal prefrence I say go 240 just because it would cost more to make the teg keep up. In all honesty do what will you make you happy non of us will drive for you. Your the one who has to get in it everyday....Keep that in mind when you are talking to someone and if they try to dis your car, its your car who cares what they think. Have a good day/nite guys or gals.

Not that I diden't put my 2 cents in already but I need to shed some lite on this one subject. Takeing turns at 90 in a fwd car is alot easyer then a rwd car. I learnd that the hard way driveing a ford escort with the cops on me in the snow. Kiddies don't try that! Also keep in mind launching fwd and rwd are two diffrent worlds. Good luck hope you chose what makes you happy.

wait you want an older 240? i'd pass it cause you'll get burned. people gonna call you out to do an initial-d and all this bullshit i bet anyone at the age of 16 would give into that hype. don't wanna hurt yourself now, do you? get a 94 not a 93- integ... seriously cause 94 got so much better than the older model... so yeah, save yourself the trouble and run an integ like everyone else.

i hope i ended it right to degrade the 240sx
>.<

Heh, heh special thus far to all the forums I'v seen to this forum, downtalking the boards specfic car of topic in every other post now heh....hrmmm come to think of it I'd do the sameeeeee thing but for diffrent reasons I assume.

ok if you want 200hp N/A then you want an rx-7, they have a good amount of aftermarket products and come with 160 stock, and on a rotary 40 horsepower isn't too difficult to get, plus it has the best suspension of the 3. also RWD so you could always learn to drift a bit just for fun or eventually turbo it and rebuild it and run it at the track or strip. with intake, headers, highflow cat, downpipe, and exhaust you can be easily over 180hp and maybe even close to 190hp, couldn't tell you exactly though, but you could do all that for around a grand if you know where to look. then just do little things hear and there and you'll get your extra 10-15 horsepower pretty easy. then throw in a short shifter and put on some wider performance tires and you'll be set, then you can always get some shocks and springs... man I wish I had money cuz I'd be doing that myself hehe

anyways just my thoughts

note that finding an rx-7 with a well taken care of engine that wont cost you as much as the car to repair is like hitting the jackpot on the slot machine.

NA Rotaries have excellent reliability. Its the turbos that are suspect - and thats only due to their poor cooling.

240SX - we all no the beating these things can take


240sxes suck at reliablity, they cant take "beatings" for sh!t.

now hondas on the other hand, they take beatings like wives in alabama

Your the one who has to get in it everyday....Keep that in mind when you are talking to someone and if they try to dis your car, its your car who cares what they think.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! u got me all pumped up lol

get a 94 not a 93- integ... seriously cause 94 got so much better than the older model... so yeah, save yourself the trouble and run an integ like everyone else.

i hope i ended it right to degrade the 240sx
>.<

y would i get a 94 when i could get a 93 or 92 gsr instead.... plus i personally like the gen 2 body style beeter and it wheighs 2643 instead of the mind boggling 2667lbs. in the 94..lol plus a 92 gsr would be faster the a 94 gs, rs, or ls, for about the same price

note that finding an rx-7 with a well taken care of engine that wont cost you as much as the car to repair is like hitting the jackpot on the slot machine.



i agree

note that finding an rx-7 with a well taken care of engine that wont cost you as much as the car to repair is like hitting the jackpot on the slot machine.

acctually you couldn't be more wrong, now maybe finding a turbo with a good engine for cheap could be hard, but a non-turbo with a good engine is an easy find, I live in kansas and I see them all the time, the worst part is the radiator and oil cooler, but upgrade those and you shoud be pretty much trouble free

i agree

you should refer to the above quote as well

gen2tegls ... i'm in the same situation as you are... I am saving up money to buy one of these cars:
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback
1992-2000 Honda Civic HB
1993-1995 Honda Civic Coupe
1995-2000 Acura Integra LS
1995-1999 Toyota Celica GT

Its very hard for me to decide but its pretty easy for me to find any one of these cars. Like you... I'm not sure which one to get... I'm not sure if i want to go for looks or for speed? I mean girls likes looks, but I also like to go fast fast! so i don't know.... I'm 17 right now so yeah..... This is a very good forum... If anyone could help me, please give me some info or somethin about any of these cars. I'm leaning towards the 240...

have u seen those drifting twins from signal auto? Those are 180sx,but u know u just need the tail lights and the front. But they have a S15 front,damn it looks good! That nice paint,those Volk's,that SR20DET,the hood...Oh man,i wouldnt think of that twice!
Honda civic hatch-everyone has them already
93'-95' civic coupe-they dont really look nice,they are also everywhere
acura integra ls-they look nice,but i prefer the 240,and in order to make the ls go fast,u need at least a b18c,thats $3,000+
95'-99' celica GT-not that many parts out there to make it fast,doesnt look as good as a 240..

Well those are my opinions,its up to you,but if you havent seen the drifting twins i told you about,you need to see them,you can find them in the september 2003 super street mag...

gen2tegls ... i'm in the same situation as you are... I am saving up money to buy one of these cars:
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback
1992-2000 Honda Civic HB
1993-1995 Honda Civic Coupe
1995-2000 Acura Integra LS
1995-1999 Toyota Celica GT

Its very hard for me to decide but its pretty easy for me to find any one of these cars. Like you... I'm not sure which one to get... I'm not sure if i want to go for looks or for speed? I mean girls likes looks, but I also like to go fast fast! so i don't know.... I'm 17 right now so yeah..... This is a very good forum... If anyone could help me, please give me some info or somethin about any of these cars. I'm leaning towards the 240...
Girls like looks?

again, if u need the car for girls then you must be an ugly duckling


but yea, honda or acura....acura has a higher "standard" if you want that girl option thing.....

the girls go " what does he drive? nissan or acura?" acura sounds better....i think you should go with that...its a much better car, and its much more reliable than nissan....

240sx is not even in the same class as all those other cars mentioned....

but yeah, basically for a 17 year old....a car where not that much maintenance is needed is good...after you have your own house and such THEN you can invest in those kinna things....

sucks when your 17 and you buy ca18 and it blows...

luckily i have convertible as backup

but im diffrent,....and you should get civic

yah,i should get a car with a nice name also!dumbass...check out the Signal Auto twin 180sx's,and tell me if any gurl wouldnt roll with you!"oh his car is ugly,but it has a nice name,lets roll with his POS!"...yeah right...It takes an idiot to blow up an engine,seriously..my ga16de has 182k miles and its still goin strong..

gen2tegls ... i'm in the same situation as you are... I am saving up money to buy one of these cars:
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback
1992-2000 Honda Civic HB
1993-1995 Honda Civic Coupe
1995-2000 Acura Integra LS
1995-1999 Toyota Celica GT

Its very hard for me to decide but its pretty easy for me to find any one of these cars. Like you... I'm not sure which one to get... I'm not sure if i want to go for looks or for speed? I mean girls likes looks, but I also like to go fast fast! so i don't know.... I'm 17 right now so yeah..... This is a very good forum... If anyone could help me, please give me some info or somethin about any of these cars. I'm leaning towards the 240...

ya man i was thinking about the 240sx but then i realized that i live in vancouver ...rains like a bitch...i will br driving in the snow to mounttains....and overall i think if i can get my hands on a nice 92 or 93 gsr i will be in good shape...170hp pretty light body..or i was thinking of a 92 or 93 civic hb and drop a b18c1 in herbut i dont know yet

really funny thing is that there is a libraian at my school who drives a 93 red gsr and it is in mint condition with like 110,000 kilometers and im gonna ask her if she wants to sell it to me....lol

gen2tegls ... i'm in the same situation as you are... I am saving up money to buy one of these cars:
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback
1992-2000 Honda Civic HB
1993-1995 Honda Civic Coupe
1995-2000 Acura Integra LS
1995-1999 Toyota Celica GT

Its very hard for me to decide but its pretty easy for me to find any one of these cars. Like you... I'm not sure which one to get... I'm not sure if i want to go for looks or for speed? I mean girls likes looks, but I also like to go fast fast! so i don't know.... I'm 17 right now so yeah..... This is a very good forum... If anyone could help me, please give me some info or somethin about any of these cars. I'm leaning towards the 240...


ive drove an ls honda and it was ok
ive drove a civic si and it was alrigth more pep then the ls
im trying to get my buddy to let me drive his 240 wen it gets out of the shop and i want to drive a celica to see wat there made of

nacho nissan - cut the flaming NOW. he is merely stating his opinion and he is allowed to. it does not warrant you calling him a dumbass.

btw, the Signal drifter twins are not God. and who cares what they look like as long as they do what they were built to do: tear up a track.

those cars you have listed really won't get girls. You'll have to step up to cars that most people don't have, like luxury cars, 350z and s2k. :naughty: :smokin: 240s rn't baits for girls to hook onto :disappoin . Also if you are trying to get a girl from your car, she's going to be into your car and money, not you. :loser: Chances are she'll just be a gold digger and take your money. :eek: But... If you want that then buy a civic del sol convertible, girls love those... :uhoh: :screwy:

yah,i should get a car with a nice name also!dumbass...check out the Signal Auto twin 180sx's,and tell me if any gurl wouldnt roll with you!"oh his car is ugly,but it has a nice name,lets roll with his POS!"...yeah right...It takes an idiot to blow up an engine,seriously..my ga16de has 182k miles and its still goin strong..

yea I'd say your about done with the stupid comments, obviously you know nothing, it is very easy to blow up an engine with high miles, so what if your car is high miles, a lot of people have high miles and don't blow them up, some people drive like grannies and never send it to red line either, some people enjoy doing donuts and drifting and racing and anything of that sort and that is the kinda thing that can blow an engine, and when you have the money for all that stuff you go buy it instead of being somewhat original and making something your own way instead of saying wow his car looks awesome, mines gonna be just like that! and a lot of girls could care less if you had a civic, integra, 626, 240sx, 300zx, probe, accord... if your ugly they won't like you if you have a skyline or a mclaren or anything, as long as your not driving around in a junker they probably wont care.

honestly if your choosing a car just by what girls like then you need to check your priorities. if your truely a car enthusiest then you can decide what you like for the engine it has, or handling abilities, or aftermarket support, or potential... man people like you piss me off, get what you like, not what you think the hookers under the bridge down town will like