2003 RSX TYPE S INTO 4g4d

Hey id like everyones opinion on this.

Okay my cousin totaled his 2003 rsx type s, i mean it was so bad the insurance company just totalled it out. Basically this big truck rolled over it and crushed the whole right side. From the winshield to the trunk. Well anyway the insurance company let him buy it back and he did. He told me that hed give me whatever i wanted off it for what he paid for it. He said he paid like 3500 which i dont know why it was that cheap but hey.

Okay here is the deal I have a b16a just the engine, and i was getting ready to order the parts for it when this came up. I was going to swap it over winter break. Well anyway how hard do you guys think it is to put a a k-series engine into a 4g4d lx?? Im just thinking 200hp?? Obd2??

Any thoughts??????


What do you think about results vs. cost??\

Thanks

i have not heard of anyone puttin a K series engine in a 4G but check local body shops and engine swappers and see if they think it can be done and check prices

Yeah i was going to do that. I just figured i can get a great deal on it, any accesory or harness i need off the car, plus it is very cheap, and i know about the engine, and car. It only has like 3100 miles on it. So just wanted to take advantage of this.
Besides i figured if the frame on my civic doesnt start to rust with this new engine ill get another 10-12years out of it
lol....

You would definately have to get custom mounts made, and convert to a hydro tranny....dunno how much all that would cost you, but i know it would be cheaper to put the B16 in, and you could probly get 200 hp out of the B16 for the cost of puttin a k-series in a 4th gen

ive never seen this done before either, it will cost a shit load of money too, as the K series motors spin in the oppisite way that the d, b, and h motors spin.

ive never seen this done before either, it will cost a shit load of money too, as the K series motors spin in the oppisite way that the d, b, and h motors spin.

people are always talking about doing this, but i dont think it would work on 4th gens. not only does it spin the opposite way, the block is too tall. not to mention all the things like engine mounts, shift linkage and axles would be very expensive.

get the engine and tranny and whatever else you can salvage and sell it and put the money into the b16
im pretty sure the motor and tranny with as little miles as it has should fetch a pretty penny

Why? It doesn't even make sense.

If you're doing an engine swap for "points", or to be different, you should probably just save your money and not do one at all.

Why? It doesn't even make sense.

If you're doing an engine swap for "points", or to be different, you should probably just save your money and not do one at all.


ouch easy killer :wave:

I guess ill buy it and then sell all of the parts. Darn i thought this would kind of work. Plus i am getting such a good deal on it and it has so many low miles. Oh well, i just figure it would be awesome to pull up to a si or rsx and blow them away, and we would have the same engine.
I dunno
Oh well thanks anyway

Just figured it be good, it only has like 2,100 on it

dude sell the shit put the money into building your b16 and beat the si's and rsx's anyways

Okay thats probaly what im going to do. What do you think i can get for it selling it together on ebay with the engine, ecu, tranny, uncut harness, axles, linkage, brackets and all accesories. What do you think i can get for it??
Thanks

The K-Series motor will outperform a new B-series motor by leaps and bounds.

Hasport has a mount kit coming out for this swap and it should be out sometime in the middle of next year. It will cost a pretty penny but I've seen dyno charts with a K-series making over 220 whp/160lb ft...

Personally, I would hold on to the K-series and be on of the first to do it in a 4door.

Trust me, you will be killin em...

the K series has been put into the 6ths gens so ya its possible

I realize that the new K series are quite tuner friendly, but lets get real.. Into a 4th gen?!
Totally seems live overkill to me. Its more than nessicary. (considering what the costs would be)

:iamwithst

Build the b16 up and smoke everything.

Here is my :2cents: :)

K-Series motors have a complete subframe that allows it to "easily" bolt to the car but prolly not a 4G....this would be a HUGE undertaking, IF you could get the motor to fit under the hood. I would not waste my time personally. Also, the whole engine geometry is different,...isn't the intake in the front and the exhaust near the firewall??? EVERYTHING would need to be fabricated...:thumbsdow

Sell the K-series to some silly boy that bought an '03 Si with only 160HP and is tired of getting spanked by tuned 6Gs, and wants the 200-HP RSX type-S motor to give him a "USDM Type-R" lol :thumbsup: - then he'll sell his 160hp to some silly boy with a D-series in his '01 Coupe.

Better yet, let your friend sell his own motor and stay out of the middle-man business knowing you made a good decision to stick with your b-series swap you already started. :cool: - For reference, www.Hmotorsonline.com has a K20A (they label it as the RSX TypeR, which I would assume is not a USDM motor) with 220 HP, for $5800. Maybe if your buddy can sell his setup for $4500 he'd get a good deal. There are lotsa peeps starting to look for these motors to stuff in their 7G Civics.

Oh now i dont have the slightest idea. I bought the whole car from him for 4k. I dont know what i whould even do know. Has anyone tried this sway in any 4g or lower????

Really If I was you I would not sell a treasure like that and hold onto it and save up your money to be different from everyone else. :D

go on ebay and sell anything you can salvage
maybe put the front seats in your car
but sell anything you can get rid of

I say just save up and buy a new civic, and transplant the engine into it. You'll be fast with your 4g and the new civics.

Well u can do what you want, i mean it will take a shit load of work to get a k-series into a 4g...but with how much money it would take I personally would use the b16 and build that up with the money you save. And SASTANLEY, you are right, the exhuast is near the firewall and the intake is in the front of the engine bay.

Okay im going to be different. Im going to part out everything except engine and componets.
Oh also i can but the seats in thery are totaled too.

I really dont care if its totaly different or would be cheaper to get a b-series. I want to be different.

Here are the pros that i have been weighing:
1.obd2 easier with emissions.
2. Brand new engine only 21xx miles!!!!1
3.Aftermarket product availabliity.
4.Be differen. My car represents myself.

CONS:
Cost, time,money, money, okay yeah!!

Besides im going to wait till middle of next year. Hasports coming out with a weld-in mount kit and wiring!!!

Ill keep everone updated when i get to it!!!!

Bring me the K20, bring me the Civic, and for $2,200 everything is taken care of. EVERYTHING

EDIT: I'm not tryin to make money off of you (well, maybe) but if you DO decide to get it installed, and you can get the car to SoCal, PM me and I'll give you the details.

Instalation includes mounts supplied, a new custom made header, and alot more stuff.

My dad is putting a K20 in his civic, so far the engine is in there...we have to have it wired up, and everything is planned already.

Bring me the K20, bring me the Civic, and for $2,200 everything is taken care of. EVERYTHING

EDIT: I'm not tryin to make money off of you (well, maybe) but if you DO decide to get it installed, and you can get the car to SoCal, PM me and I'll give you the details.

Instalation includes mounts supplied, a new custom made header, and alot more stuff.

My dad is putting a K20 in his civic, so far the engine is in there...we have to have it wired up, and everything is planned already.

hey what year civic are you putting the k20 in? i know right now some people from honda-tech are trying to put the k20 in the eg, but its not yet completed. im very interested on how you can get it working when the people of hasport havent even done it yet.

Hasport? I heard hasport mounts mought the enigne perfectly verticle...which is not right, the K20 need to be slightly slanted back, the same way it sits in RSXs I believe.

If a B-series engine fits in it...me and my pop can make a K20 fit.


BTW, Hasport is'nt that smart.

Yeah Its not a bolt in kit. Its a weld in kit. It all depends on how you weld the mounts in due to the fact that there are not any good places for a bolt on kit in the 4g that are sturdy enought to hold the k20s weight.

Im putting it in a 4g.
Sounds like a good deal but another reason im waiting till spring is the fact that ill have the money then.
But thanks.
Hey keep us updated on how its working for you.!!!

Yeah Its not a bolt in kit. Its a weld in kit. It all depends on how you weld the mounts in due to the fact that there are not any good places for a bolt on kit in the 4g that are sturdy enought to hold the k20s weight.



If you mean the chassis can't hold the K20, just want you to know...K20s are lighter. When my dad gets home, we'll look at our CRX and see if there any good placed o welt in the mounts...we'll figure something out.

*believe it or not, but my dad wanted to put a rotary in our Civic, but that idea lasted like 5 minutes*

If you mean the chassis can't hold the K20, just want you to know...K20s are lighter. When my dad gets home, we'll look at our CRX and see if there any good placed o welt in the mounts...we'll figure something out.

*believe it or not, but my dad wanted to put a rotary in our Civic, but that idea lasted like 5 minutes*


Lolz. It'll be like an FD civic or sumthin. Haha

hey what year civic are you putting the k20 in? i know right now some people from honda-tech are trying to put the k20 in the eg, but its not yet completed. im very interested on how you can get it working when the people of hasport havent even done it yet.
this guy finished his
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=573697

Yeah in that post it said there arent any good places that a nolt on kit would work, so you have to weld it in place.

Yeah in that post it said there arent any good places that a nolt on kit would work, so you have to weld it in place.


I'm dyin to learn how to weld, so I can help my dad out more with the K20 swaps :(

Hey does anyone know if i can get one of those riced up clear hoods for a 4 door. When i get the k20 i want to really brag it a lot, so everyone can see??
I dunno?
Any thoughts???

Hey does anyone know if i can get one of those riced up clear hoods for a 4 door. When i get the k20 i want to really brag it a lot, so everyone can see??
I dunno?
Any thoughts???


Thoughts? Doing a swap for bragging rights is a really dumb idea, AND this swap in your car will never happen.

Just a thought.

Thanks for your opinion. But i dont care. I dont reall per say want it for bragging rights. I had a DOHC ZC in it about a month ago and it blew.(long story..nos.) okay anyway
People i know only mod out domestics and mazdas, and the ones with imports but rims on it and a loud exhaust and they expect it to be fast.
Like my friend has a 2002 altima 3.5 and its like 240hp. but it weights a shit load. ANd i raced him in my zc with a 75 shot. I smoke his ass. Well anyway people dont believe how much power came out of my old little car. I just want to be like.. Well there is this preppy ass kid at my school with a type s. I want to be like, look we have the same engine, who will win, lets go.
Okay well im probaly really off topic..
But i basically want everyone to see the work i did to my car and the time i put into it.

AND YES IT WILL WORK. Check the link above. It has been done. Ill make it.

Does anyone know where i can get a clear hood.

No MORE FLAMERS!!!!!
THANKS

i don't think NOS killed your car, the nitrous may have tho.....
and i agree doing a swap for braggin rights or to show some preppy kid up, not the right way... if youw annt show off the engine, do the whole car to be show quality. if not, hide it, race it, show it that way.
search eBay or yahoo for hte hood if you still want it, but again i say, a clear hood and nice engine will look out of place in a crappy looking car, just keep it in mind.

I think you are right....... Don't just do up your car to show off. Do it for your self man! :iceslolan

OKay guess your right.
and to SIZ didnt anyone ever tell you anything is possible with money??
Thanks

I know that anything is possible with money. Just how much money do you have that you're willing to blow on a 4th gen?

I'm just saying that this thread will die and it will never happen. Sorry.

Okay appreciate your opinion. But im going to try anyway, and if it doesnt work, hey i still have and havent sold my b16.

So, I just read up to page 26 of that H-T thread, and I gotta say that shit is pretty cool...

Dude, go for it :thumbsup: but just skip the clear hood :thumbsdow

Thanks eveyone. Im just going to stash the engine in the garage and partg out the rest. Im waiting for the hasport kit.
Thanks to evereyones help and opinion!!!

Look at this site. It has already been done. http://www.vampkaworu.net/stampern/4g4d/pictures/general/rsxengine.jpg

forking newbie WE KNOW

sorry im not the best at this stuff dude

It ok I was playing around this is a old thread thats all OH YA welcome to AF If you do a search in the right upper corner where it says search type in the engine numbers and you can find allmost anything on different motor configurations.

thats cool thanks. yeah i was actually thinkin of doing that swap but i dont know if it will be any good