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Need cheap/semi fast car


MachoCamacho
11-23-2003, 10:24 PM
I need a cheap car thats kinda fast but can use until i get outta high school and is semi fast(not a camaro fast yet :)) anyways, celica or 240sx is what i'm lookin at right now, any other suggestions?

EC0T3C
11-23-2003, 10:28 PM
Well if your looking for a used car i would sugest a mid 90's cavalier z24. Slap a turbo on there and you have a low- mid 14's car for around 4-6k or less.

fatninja19
11-23-2003, 11:22 PM
Or you can get a 5.0 Foxbody and run mid to low 14's for less than $5k.

Butt since you said not Camaro fast... and since the Foxbody is pretty much camaro(excluding LS1's) fast.. then uh.. Get a Civic.

MachoCamacho
11-23-2003, 11:25 PM
The whole thing is i need a daily driver/meh car that i can drive during the winter(this is minnesota), and i'm plannin on gettin a LS1 camaro once i'm outta high school, but for the next year n' a half i need somethin to drive, and how much more would an ecotech cavalier cost?

mynismo
11-23-2003, 11:30 PM
mustang 50... nothing cheaper and faster

youngvr4
11-24-2003, 01:18 AM
you can get a dsm (eclipse,talon) 1st gen for under $4000 and or a toyota supra mkIII for under $4000, fast cars for cheap and can be easily modded, lots of bolt-ons.

btw you would really have fun with a mkIII try and look in to that.

KrNxRaCer00
11-24-2003, 01:47 AM
you can get a dsm (eclipse,talon) 1st gen for under $4000 and or a toyota supra mkIII for under $4000, fast cars for cheap and can be easily modded, lots of bolt-ons.

btw you would really have fun with a mkIII try and look in to that.

agreed...

both would be awesome choices...

1st gen dsm... :biggrin:

carrrnuttt
11-24-2003, 02:04 AM
Well if your looking for a used car i would sugest a mid 90's cavalier z24. Slap a turbo on there and you have a low- mid 14's car for around 4-6k or less.Dude, please quit spreading mis-information like that.

I know you're infatuated with Cavaliers for some odd reason, but even with all the exhaustive R&D that has been done to Honda B-motors, it's neither easy or cheap to put a turbo on one still...much less on a Cavalier 2.2, 2.3 or even the 2.4.

Even turbo-charging say, a 4G63 is still a somewhat pricey affair, even though it has a turbo-charged brother in Eclipse GS-T's/GS-X's 4G63T.

My SR20DE has a famous sibling in the SR20DET, and even shares some of its internals with it, and I'll still need at least 1,000-dollars to turbocharge it...and I can't assure reliability at that price-level.

I don't begrudge you your suggestion, and you're certainly entitled to it, but quit trying to make it sound like it's easy...and this is coming from a former owner of Beretta GTZ, which housed the Quad-4 motor, the most powerful N/A 4-banger (180 to 190HP) Chevy ever put on any of their cars.

With that being said, I bought my Classic SE-R for about 1,800-dollars before financing, and have run a best of 15.0 with G-Tech timing, and piss-off people on a daily basis. Another 1000 or less for complete bolt-ons, you'll be in the mid-high 14's, all-motor, reliably. Just do a search for my racing posts and do some research on the SR20 motors.

Just don't expect the car to assist you in picking up chicks...you're on your own on that one;).

OoNismoO
11-24-2003, 03:19 AM
I need a cheap car thats kinda fast but can use until i get outta high school and is semi fast(not a camaro fast yet :)) anyways, celica or 240sx is what i'm lookin at right now, any other suggestions?

you want good gas mileage? anyways if you want something reliable i would recommend nonturbocharged engines, unless you re willing to replace the turbo, or get a new one. some of the cars that are quick but cheap would be 88-91 honda crx si extremely good gas but still quick cause its so light, ford probe gt(v6), mazda mx6 v6 which is basically the same as the probe with diff body, mx-3 with the 2.0 liter v6. the 240sx 89-93 95-98 are rear wheel drive, if you dont care about it being rear drive for the winter, then make sure you get the ones after 91 if you want the one with the more powerful motor, the 89-90 240s have like 140hp compared to 155 for the 91+. if you re gonna get a celica, id rather get a honda civic si coupe 92-96 with the vtec motor, cause they re faster, and get better gas mileage, plus they have double wishbone suspension all the way around for a smoother ride, and better handling. celicas are too slow. acura integra 90-93 94-96, it goes all the way up to like 2001 i think, but i figured the price would be too high, im sure you could find good deals for those yrs though. the 92+ integ ls/gs got more horses compared to 90/91. vw corrado, starts in 90, but dont know where it goes to. those are all i can think of right now.

Amish_kid
11-24-2003, 08:08 AM
you can get a dsm (eclipse,talon) 1st gen for under $4000 and or a toyota supra mkIII for under $4000, fast cars for cheap and can be easily modded, lots of bolt-ons.

btw you would really have fun with a mkIII try and look in to that.


Supra's suck in the snow, the tires are too wide to do any good in the snow best thing would be a Celica All-trac turbo if you looking to buy a Toyota to drive in the snow.

SpyderEclipseGst
11-24-2003, 11:22 AM
mustang 50... nothing cheaper and faster


I know the mustang 50's are a good buy for cheap/fast type. I dont know what a good running one will cost. On the other hand, my friend this weekend just bought a 92 eclipse gsx in excellent running condition 95k miles from a older man for $1600. Im trying my hardest to offer him $2500 for it. Damn Im totally jelous. I looked at it and turbo is in excellent cond, motor purrs and we launched it at 4k and almost obliberated his brand new dodge neon drt4 off the line. I caught up in 2nd gear within seconds tho( me driving the srt4). Damn for $1600 he could put another $1400 and have a evil track monster easily in the low 13's if not a second faster.

EC0T3C
11-24-2003, 02:08 PM
The whole thing is i need a daily driver/meh car that i can drive during the winter(this is minnesota), and i'm plannin on gettin a LS1 camaro once i'm outta high school, but for the next year n' a half i need somethin to drive, and how much more would an ecotech cavalier cost?
A cavalier year 02-04 has the Ecotec. The Ecotec is an option in the 02, it isnt standard. The way to tell the 2.2 ansd the 2.2 Ecotec is that it says ecotec on the head. It would be from 6k (really good deal for a used Eco) to 20 depending on options and if its new or not. www.cavalierconnection.com has a turbo for the 2.2, the 2.4, and the 2.2l Ecotec. The Ecotec turbo will run you 2500 intercooled. Safe for 10 psi. I wouldnt suggest more than 13psi your risking snapping the rods(the flimsy part of the eco). It is possible to swap one into a 2.2l and a 2.4 older model but it deals with alot of electrical stuff. It would be easier and cheaper to just get one with the Ecotec.

youngvr4
11-24-2003, 04:17 PM
Supra's suck in the snow, the tires are too wide to do any good in the snow best thing would be a Celica All-trac turbo if you looking to buy a Toyota to drive in the snow.


why are you talking about snow :screwy: who said anything about snow?
he said semi fast and cheap.

and also what makes you think that he can afford a cavalier and a turbo
thats not cheap that adds up to about $9000, if that was the case he could get a used 300zx twin turbo or used vr4 or used Z28 or Used mustang gt. the list goes on and on when you get that high in price
try to think cheap for him as if he only has $3000 bucks

EC0T3C
11-24-2003, 05:00 PM
why are you talking about snow :screwy: who said anything about snow?
he said semi fast and cheap.

and also what makes you think that he can afford a cavalier and a turbo
thats not cheap that adds up to about $9000, if that was the case he could get a used 300zx twin turbo or used vr4 or used Z28 or Used mustang gt. the list goes on and on when you get that high in price
try to think cheap for him as if he only has $3000 bucks
4-6k or less is with the turbo. Ive seen cavaliers for 1500 in perfect running condition.

-The Stig-
11-24-2003, 05:27 PM
4-6k or less is with the turbo. Ive seen cavaliers for 1500 in perfect running condition.


Where did you find a newer style body Cavalier for $1500, in perfect running condition?

I'd like to know, cause I wouldn't mind picking up a cheap daily driver.

EC0T3C
11-24-2003, 06:03 PM
Where did you find a newer style body Cavalier for $1500, in perfect running condition?

I'd like to know, cause I wouldn't mind picking up a cheap daily driver.

It was a 97 Z24. I drove it and everything. The only problem was it had 240k miles on it. But it was perfect. Here in az.

Amish_kid
11-24-2003, 06:34 PM
why are you talking about snow :screwy: who said anything about snow?


He did.

The whole thing is i need a daily driver/meh car that i can drive during the winter(this is minnesota), and i'm plannin on gettin a LS1 camaro once i'm outta high school, but for the next year n' a half i need somethin to drive, and how much more would an ecotech cavalier cost?

Read before you open yer mouth. :loser:

dEaN6287
11-25-2003, 12:27 AM
It was a 97 Z24. I drove it and everything. The only problem was it had 240k miles on it. But it was perfect. Here in az.


$1500 for a '97 Cavalier Z24 with 240k miles on it? 240k miles within 6 years? That's some 40 thousand miles a year! And you're saying you'd be perfectly willing to strap a turbo onto an engine with 240k miles on it?! Man, he'd need a new engine to get near to stock performance, let alone adding a turbo. He'd spend more in fixing that car than it would cost to buy a brand new one...

I'm also somewhat looking for a car to suit my needs like that, and after being driven around in my friends 1992 Nissan NX2000, I fell in love with the SR20DE motor. I wouldn't mind picking up a '93 240SX 5spd and dropping a SR20DE or SR20DET in it. I'm looking for something come summertime though, not right now. I was also looking at foxbody mustangs, but no good for snow. 1st gen DSMs are sweet too, especially the turboed AWD monsters. Ever think about a Toyota MR2? Those are neat little cars, a few friends and I were thinking about buying one and turning it into a team car. I just need something to replace my 1990 Plymouth Sundance w/ 2.5L TBI N/A motor, and I want speed, much the same as you do, on a budget.

That's my :2cents:

youngvr4
11-25-2003, 01:26 AM
The whole thing is i need a daily driver/meh car that i can drive during the winter(this is minnesota), and i'm plannin on gettin a LS1 camaro once i'm outta high school, but for the next year n' a half i need somethin to drive, and how much more would an ecotech cavalier cost?

he said winter, does winter equal snow? maybe once in a couple months but drive in the winter doesn't equal driving in the snow (unless minnesota snows ALL the time.) does it?

otherwise thats the reason why i said you were :screwy:

Neutrino
11-25-2003, 06:21 AM
It was a 97 Z24. I drove it and everything. The only problem was it had 240k miles on it. But it was perfect. Here in az.


unless that z24 had a cummins diesel under the hood......that thing was as far from perfect as pamela anderson from natural breasts....


and stop saying stuff like "slapping a turbo" unless you plan to have that engine for only a week you don't "slap" anything....i though we went over this in another thread.....


proper turbocharging is done with time money and knowlege....you don't "slap" anything on an engine without proper care...

fatninja19
11-25-2003, 12:10 PM
I was also looking at foxbody mustangs, but no good for snow.


Ya.. hahahhaa.. I don't care what kind of tires you run back there, you'll still have one looose ass rear end. hahahahha.. Scary.

BlkCamaroSS
11-25-2003, 12:19 PM
I've driven both of my Camaros through snow, but as long as you don't drive like a bat out of hell, and you know how to drive on snow, you should have no problem with any rearwheel drive car, let alone a Mustang or a Camaro. Key thing is, you gotta know how to drive on snow, most people that wreck any car don't...

Amish_kid
11-25-2003, 12:39 PM
he said winter, does winter equal snow? maybe once in a couple months but drive in the winter doesn't equal driving in the snow (unless minnesota snows ALL the time.) does it?

otherwise thats the reason why i said you were :screwy:


He's in Minnesota. Minnesota gets lots of snow and cold weather. Therefore you are teh wun woh is :screwy:.

SpaceManSpiff
11-28-2003, 07:41 PM
1g DSMs are cool, especially the gsx. 13s for 4 grand. mk3 supras, 1g mr2s, 200nx/se-rs, and 240sxs are all good cars as well. I wouldn't suggest a cavilier because they tend to not be very reliable. Though he only needs it for 2 years... how about a 1st or 2nd gen rx-7? It won't last, but it will be fun while it runs...

street_racer_00
12-01-2003, 09:16 PM
If you want to be original, and not just a faceless nobody out on the road, try a Volkswagen Corrado SLC. They can be had for under 5k, and nothing is more satisfying than VR-6 power. It has love-it-or-hate-it styling (personally I love it), but it will turn heads regardless.

fatninja19
12-01-2003, 09:31 PM
I've driven both of my Camaros through snow, but as long as you don't drive like a bat out of hell, and you know how to drive on snow, you should have no problem with any rearwheel drive car, let alone a Mustang or a Camaro. Key thing is, you gotta know how to drive on snow, most people that wreck any car don't...


I guess you're right... Just gotta be super duper conservative and have some nice meats all around..

hot_red_z28
12-05-2003, 08:33 PM
I have a 1992 Lumina Z34 that I'm looking to sell. I'm located in Rochester, NY. I'm looking to get $3,000 o.b.o.

you can see pics here...

http://www.cs.rit.edu/~glr7495/z34/z34.html

Now for the bad parts...the things I know, or think I know might need some kind of work...

You'll see the pic of the slight dent in the hood, it is barely noticeable except from certain angles. It was caused by a fould ball at a baseball game. The black part of the cowl could use a slight touch up with some black paint, and the right rear brake rattles a bit. I have replaced the pads and rotors, and it still does it. I'm looking to change the caliper here soon, but they only cost $45 for a new one, so I'd just give ya like $100 off the price if I don't have that fixed by then. The "brake" light has been on for a while. It is quite possible that it has to do with the bad caliper in the back. Not sure though, it could just be a bad sensor. There is a slight stain on the passenger front seat that you will see in the pics also. Other than that, she runs really strong, and the tranny shifts perfectly. The car has 8X,000 miles on it. Alternator was changes about 4 months ago. Timing belt has already been changed about 15,000 miles ago. As I said, there are new pads and rotors on the back. I also have a new fuel filter that I haven't installed yet. I was just going to throw it in there as preventative maintenance. It's an easy swap, I just haven't gotten to it yet.

Let me know if you are interested...

[email protected]

RACER D12
12-05-2003, 09:08 PM
A subaru 2.5 RS quick AWD its what i would get. Also the DSM was a good idea if its the GSX cause that also has AWD.

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