Camaro IRS

What year did the Camaro become avalable with an independent rear suspention?

it hasnt, always been a straight solid axle. :smokin:

I read somewhere that one year model SS had the Transaxle out of a corvette. Trans axle=independent Rear Suspention

None of them have it that I know of. No 4th Gens have it, that's what I know...

yup, never ever has there been a production camaro with an IRS, i think there was a rumor to on in a 5th gen, but i wont hold my breath. and in 1969 durring the Trans Am racing, they experimented with the corvette rear in the camaro, but its benifit was negligable and didnt warrant the change, so it stayed a solid rear.

Hey 89IROC&RS, being that you're a chevy tech guy, what year did they stop making the Camaro and the Firebird?

I know this answer, but someone else doesn't...

2002 if im right

2003 (www.cnyfirebird.com/showNews.asp?ID=25) You guys don't even know that? I must be in the wrong forum.

um, hate to be a goober, but the link that jared put up, says that the last of the f-body's rolls off the line in 2002. so i think that means that the last year of the f-body was, oh i dunno, 2002. I work at a chevy dealership, it is currently 2003, we dont have any camaros anymore. i dunno, maybe im wrong, but i really dont think so.

so i guess that means, if they were dropped in 2002 instead of 2003, maybe jared is in the wrong forum ;)

That's because he's an idiot.

lol well spoke :)

Hey Jared 80, find me another typo to dispute, keep'em coming, I've shot them all down so far. Try convincing the whole F-body community that there's a 2003 Camaro or Firebird lurking out there...

hey man, dont be to hard on him, i like to imagine that there is a 2003 out there, like they never died, and then i wake up, and i cry ;)

um, hate to be a goober, but the link that jared put up, says that the last of the f-body's rolls off the line in 2002. so i think that means that the last year of the f-body was, oh i dunno, 2002. I work at a chevy dealership, it is currently 2003, we dont have any camaros anymore. i dunno, maybe im wrong, but i really dont think so.


If you work a a dealership than you know that the 2003s are made at the end of 2002 right? There are 2004 out now right? Guss what that is a 2003. Go to any parts store and they have parts for a 2003 Camaro. You guys are blind. The reason that you probably don't have any is because there are so few of them. Go ahead and argue with CNN/Time, just leave me out of it.

Nope, there are no parts for 2003 Camaros, because they don't exist. If someone has them and markets them as such, they've probably crossed paths with you and become retarded. You know you're wrong, they only reason I fight it is because I'm right...

lmao, tell me how a dealership works, please, actually, the new malibus, which are 2004's, which we are selling now in 2003, are called 2004's, not 2003's. and the last 2002 camaro rolled off the line in 2002, they didnt make 2003 camaros, the ones made in 2002, were just that, 2002's. just cuz they are made at the end of the year, does not mean they are next years models. we are still selling 2003's.

I mean that they sold Camaros that were sold as a 2003 model. Not ones made in 2003. You can look at the VIN and tell what year model it is so lets not play with words.

Nope, there are no parts for 2003 Camaros, because they don't exist. If someone has them and markets them as such, they've probably crossed paths with you and become retarded. You know you're wrong, they only reason I fight it is because I'm right...


Technicaly speaking if somone sold you parts to a 03 Camaro and they did not exist could you sue them for false advertising? There are loads of sites selling these parts, if you are right you could start up a class action lawsuit. Thanks for the idea, but I doubt that it will do me any good. You are quite right people who speak with me too long do tend to become retarded, you should know you are one of them. :rofl:

I'd say that you could sue them under false advertising...

Don't try playing word games with me son, you're the one that's made a complete idiot of yourself on this board. I replied to the PM, try posting one here again, and let me find the error in that one, so far you're zero for four or five...

They should make me a mod in this forum, that way I can get rid of troll trash like you...

i didnt know you could play with words, i think it wuold be kind of boring, they would just kind of sit there. but seriously, if jarod wants to prove himself, why not find a link to back himself up, rather than posting a link that proves him wrong.

He can't do it, all he does is post the ones that prove him wrong. See this thread as well...

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=149988

First I proved him wrong about Evo VIII stats, and since then I've continued to prove him wrong about Camaro stats. He's just some teenage punk...

lol, methinks he should stick to his import forum, seems to know more there than anything bout american stuff.

LMAO you fucking idiot there are No 2003's or 2004's out there! :icon16:

The last year in the U.S. was 2002, but in some Arab countries they sold the last of 2002s as 2003s.

Chevyracincamaro I think thats some crap the dealers make up to sell the cars new instead of a year old mark down.

They should make me a mod in this forum, that way I can get rid of troll trash like you...



Trash like me hu? wanna see trash just look in the dump or in the mirror. Even if you could get rid of me I would just sign in under a different name, and even if you were some super computer wiz who could jam my internet connection by "pinging" my connection, I have 50 computers at my fingertips, you will never track all of them down I don't care how good you are. So get mad, get outraged, get a life. I only do this kind of stuff because I love to drive people like you crazy! And I am doing a great job of it too. I am just weird like taht. Oh and if you want to wage war on my connection I have a friend who heads the computer labs in three collages, he could put 250 units on connection and you would not be able to download "packman" by time he gets done with your hard drive. So go ahead get mad cus like a sailor, I am loving every second of it. So what are you going to do about it?

First I proved him wrong about Evo VIII stats, and since then I've continued to prove him wrong about Camaro stats. He's just some teenage punk...[/QUOTE]


Wow I cannot figure how you write so much crap when you cannot even read! Try reading Motor Trend some time and check their stats on the Evo you did not prove anything except the fact that you are truly stupid. By the way I am not a teenager and have not been for quite some time. What have you proven about the Camaro stats?? Nothing that I have seen. No decent sources whatsoever; when you bring that to the table I will listen, not untill then. Get your facts streight before you talk to me boy.

well, jarod, just got back from work, just for kicks i went to the parts counter and asked for a driver side headlamp assembly for a 2003 camaro. immediatly the older guys stoped and looked up, the kid working the counter is new, and tried looking up the part. i tried not to laugh, so he looked for about five minutes, and ya know what happend to pop up on the screen, for 2003 parts, absolutely nothing to do with the camaro ill tell you that. so tell me, if a CHEVY dealership's parts department dosnt have ANY listings for a 2003 camaro, exactly what parts store are you talking about? and have yall noticed that when someone violently and strongly aruges a point, and then finds out they are wrong, they always say they were just joking. lol, my advice jared, its always good to spark debate, and get people thinking, but before you go around telling other people they dont know what they are talking about, you should make DARN sure you know what your talking about.

Teenage trash doesn't know any better.

I won't be around to post anything again until about Friday evening, so feel free to post anything pertinent or useful to this discussion, Jared. I'm still waiting on on ANY information other than what you've spouted, i.e. links etc. All you've given me to date is misprinted internet links about Camaros, and nothing about Evos. I look forward to Friday...

HEY i found Romper Room !

Rompity Stompity...

Wether or not Chevy built a car as a 2003 Camaro is not the issue. Cars were sold and raced as a 2003 Camaros (maby they were just left over F-bodies that were sold.) Wether the people who bought them are idiots or not I don't know but they are out there and there are many parts shops that sell parts for them just look on the web. There is even a website where you can buy a 2003 Camaro, if they are falsely advertising then you can sue them. Take up legality of selling a car that never officaly existed with them I am tired of playing website tag.

You're tired because you lost...

It's true, I have a 2003 Camaro, it's parked right next to my 2004 AMC Javelin :-D

lmao!!! well spoke genopsyde

Hey Jared_80, I bet you don't have a girlfriend, do you? I'm not saying this to be mean or anything, but you obviously have issues with admitting when you are wrong about something.

The original question was something like "when did GM stop making the F bodies". You said it was 2003, relying on an article from the web that contained a typo. If it wasn't common knowledge already, I think the others on this thread have offered sufficient proof that F body production ended in 2002 and that no F body was ever officially sold as a 2003 model as far as GM is concerned.

I think most people would be able to admit defeat at this point, but not you, Jared_80. You just dig your heels in and keep coming back for more! Now you're saying that the issue is not whether Chevy built a Camaro as a 2003 model. Uh . . . yeah, I think that was exactly the issue.

Just because some ethically challenged car salesman in Qatar might have sold a Camaro as a 2003 model to some poor, unsuspecting buyer doesn't mean that a 2003 model ever actually existed. I mean, do you think that GM will now have to change all of its production and sales data?

Imagine if that was how things worked in this world. I could sell my 2002 Z28 to my wife and then have her sell it back to me, but as a 2004! Then I'd have a 1 of 1, 2004 Z28. God! with a car that rare, it would already be worth twice what I paid for it! Plus, I could just keep doing that every year so I would always be driving a brand new car!

Learn to admit when you're wrong, Jared_80. Chicks dig that.

Jared_80......what a retard. if there was a 2003 camaro then there was a 1988 buick Grand National :disappoin . As much as we all wish that would of happend (for both cars.) it did not.

Your about a dumbfuck. The 35 anny camaro was the last ones built. Right? right. Everybody, except you, knows that. So lets do a little math lesson here. 2003-1967=36 and that's one year to many.

Genopsyde said It's true, I have a 2003 Camaro, it's parked right next to my 2004 AMC Javelin :-D

Dont forget about your 83 vette bro

Hey don't knock the 83 vette, it's a true phantom...lol

i love mine, i have the keys, but i keep losing the car, i just cant ever find it anywhere!! :( ah well, good thing those keys work in my camaro too ;)

there's nothing more entertaining than a good roast...

ive got marshmellows!!!!! OH OH OH lets make smores :)

ooo oooo ill bring the hershey bars!!!!!!!!

Hey 89IROC&RS, being that you're a chevy tech guy, what year did they stop making the Camaro and the Firebird?

I know this answer, but someone else doesn't...
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:rofl: that was funny as hell...... i am assuming you r refferring to 2003 camaro man,lol. really lucky guy to have such a limited production vehicle... you know ----#0 of 0000!!!!

I will admit to being half wrong because when I started this I actualy thought that chevy autharized a 2003 Camaro. I was wrong about that, but I was not wrong about people selling "2003" camaros or at leased what they wanted us to beleve were 2003 camaros. I even saw a sweepstakes recently where the grand prize was a 2003 Camaro SS (I think that it was on a budwiser case. No I was not drinking at the time) So I will admit to being one of the confused about that, but people are still selling 2003s and I can get you advertisments for that (aparently I am not the only one confused) I think someone should start a lawsuit about that. (can you say false advertisment)

I would think so too. The people who are confusing the public should be beaten over the head with blunt objects...

Very heavy blunt objects. Starting with the feet and working your way up.

I'm down for helping with that effort :)

thanx jarod, i give you much props for the turn around. its always hard admitting you were wrong. but hey, go for the lawsuit, sounds like solid ground.

Yep, good move dude. I've seen the 2003 ads too. It sucks that people try to sucker folks into forking out money for something that isn't really what it's said to be.

Has anyone in here had any civial litigation experence? And one more question can a Camaro tow anything, I love my little Jap car but it will not tow my (2200lbs) boat. Yes I know that it sounds odd but I am not a truck man (the handeling sucks) and I still want to pull my fishing boat. I would think that anything that can rip a 0-60 in under 6 seconds would have a pretty strong drivetrain but will the frame handle it??

as far as litigation, you dont really have any grounds for a lawsuit unless you actually buy the car under the impression that it is a 2003. if you havent bought it all you can do is report them. no money for you :( you know what they say, it takes money to make money. gotta buy the car to sue the guy. as far as towing, um, dont know, the subframe construction isnt exactly the toughest thing around, the drivetrain may be able to take it, but the body might not be able to. dont know for sure.

A guy that lives near me has a camaro with a tow hitch and a boat MUCH larger than mine (his is about 25 foot) I would assume that he tows it with his camaro because he does not own a truck. But he does not have to tow it far we are only 1.8 miles from the Gulf. I know that my Camry was rated to pull 2000lbs with a 4 banger and an automatic transmition, at leased it was before it turned into a twisted ball of steel. I can not help but think that a Camaro must be stronger than a Camry.

Tow your boat. Go to a shop that supplies reciever hitches, they have a cross reference for your car. Also consider a cooling kit for tranny, you can find one at JC Whitney.COM

Would you need a cooling kit for a standard tranny?? I see them alot for autos but I prefer stick shift personaly.

It couldn't hurt, with all of the stress that you'd be putting on it with that boat...

yeah i suppose if they sell a kit then your good to go, and i would also reccomend the cooling kit, because its not really the trans that heats up, its the torque converter that is spinning constantly, from the towing, the car is going slower than the engine, so the turbines in the converter are spinning different speeds creating friction. heating up your fluid and possibly burning it. but yeah, your drivetrain isnt the problem with the towing. more than enough power and strength, as i said before, i personally just wouldnt trust the subframe construction to do it. but thats me, sitting here with no camaro towing experience. so i would say contact that company that makes the kit, and talk to your buddy with the camaro and the tow hitch and see what he sez.

im retarded you asked about cooling kits for a standard tranny didnt ya. oh well, auto, definately get it for the above reasons, for a standard,get it for cheap insurance.