how to get window winder off

on my brothers car were tryin to put in his new speakers but we cant get the window winder off. weve tried pullin and whatever . please we need help

take a cloth rag and tuck it around underneath the handle and pull up on it so the rag is behind the handle. Now, keep twisting the rag left and right whilst pulling up at the same time it will pop off. thanks

there is a clip on the handle that you need to pull off after that the handle will almost fall off