What Year Should I Get!!! Help!
PennyTomPenny
11-18-2003, 04:16 PM
Ok well on my way to school one day I was with my brother than BOOM here comes the hottest thign in the world. SHE was so beautiful. She was a 99 BLACK 3000gt. I looked and starred forever. I love the looks of the 94+. Also i dont know whatyear to get so heres teh ?
IF you had the choice of getting any year of a vr-4 what year would you pick and WHY. thanks guys!
IF you had the choice of getting any year of a vr-4 what year would you pick and WHY. thanks guys!
talskinyguy
11-19-2003, 01:21 AM
All depends on what your going for, I would pick a 94 or 95 because of their 2nd gen looks without being obd2.
But if your planning on tuning your car and want to datalog, those are the worst years to pick. There is no dataloging avalible for the 94 or 95, not yet anyways. Someone on 3si is making a datalogger for them, but I dont know when its supposed to be finished.
But if your planning on tuning your car and want to datalog, those are the worst years to pick. There is no dataloging avalible for the 94 or 95, not yet anyways. Someone on 3si is making a datalogger for them, but I dont know when its supposed to be finished.
YogsVR4
11-19-2003, 10:34 AM
As an owner of a 94 and 95, I’d say a 94 and 95 :p
PennyTomPenny
11-19-2003, 10:06 PM
hope i dont sound dumb but whats datalogging? im new to the car world
PennyTomPenny
11-19-2003, 10:07 PM
oh and also talskinyguy you said "obd2" i dont know what that is either lol
talskinyguy
11-20-2003, 12:42 AM
obd2 is a standard in data comunication for the ECU. It will allow you to read things off of it. Logging the data you read from the ECU is datalogging. Its used to read the o2 sensors, timing, throtle, and many other things.
PennyTomPenny
11-20-2003, 06:52 PM
obd2 is a standard in data comunication for the ECU. It will allow you to read things off of it. Logging the data you read from the ECU is datalogging. Its used to read the o2 sensors, timing, throtle, and many other things.
haha i must really not knwo shit about cars cause i dont understand anythign you said lol all i know is basically thel ooks. im really getting into how they work and everythign else you need to knwo. no one make fun of me cause you were ocne here at this point.
haha i must really not knwo shit about cars cause i dont understand anythign you said lol all i know is basically thel ooks. im really getting into how they work and everythign else you need to knwo. no one make fun of me cause you were ocne here at this point.
talskinyguy
11-20-2003, 08:51 PM
Sorry ill take it down a level. Datalogging is a way for you to read and record the information that the computer that runs your engine is seeing. Being able to see that information lets you tune your car in a safer manner than using gauges alone. Currently datalogging can be done on 91-93 and 96+ cars.
obd2 is the "language" that all 96+ cars in the USA were required by law to speak. before that the cars computer could speak whatever "language" the maker wanted it to. The problem with obd2 is that there are different "accents"(trying to keep with the language theme) and just because something can read one car that is obd2 doesnt mean that it can read another cars obd2.(GM vs Mitsu for example)
obd2 is the "language" that all 96+ cars in the USA were required by law to speak. before that the cars computer could speak whatever "language" the maker wanted it to. The problem with obd2 is that there are different "accents"(trying to keep with the language theme) and just because something can read one car that is obd2 doesnt mean that it can read another cars obd2.(GM vs Mitsu for example)
PennyTomPenny
11-21-2003, 05:23 PM
Sorry ill take it down a level. Datalogging is a way for you to read and record the information that the computer that runs your engine is seeing. Being able to see that information lets you tune your car in a safer manner than using gauges alone. Currently datalogging can be done on 91-93 and 96+ cars.
obd2 is the "language" that all 96+ cars in the USA were required by law to speak. before that the cars computer could speak whatever "language" the maker wanted it to. The problem with obd2 is that there are different "accents"(trying to keep with the language theme) and just because something can read one car that is obd2 doesnt mean that it can read another cars obd2.(GM vs Mitsu for example)
haha alright man thanks. im sort of understanding this stuff alot beter now:) do you know why they dindt have datalogging in 94-95? and should i stay away form those years?
obd2 is the "language" that all 96+ cars in the USA were required by law to speak. before that the cars computer could speak whatever "language" the maker wanted it to. The problem with obd2 is that there are different "accents"(trying to keep with the language theme) and just because something can read one car that is obd2 doesnt mean that it can read another cars obd2.(GM vs Mitsu for example)
haha alright man thanks. im sort of understanding this stuff alot beter now:) do you know why they dindt have datalogging in 94-95? and should i stay away form those years?
youngvr4
11-21-2003, 07:23 PM
good ?
talskinyguy
11-23-2003, 01:46 AM
91-93 speak the same "language" as all the 4g63 cars out there, so a datalogger was created for those, and was easy to translate from them, 96+ is obd2 so it can be datalogged. 94-95 speaks it own "language" that no other mitsu car speaeks. So it had to be created from scratch, but someone is almost done.
PennyTomPenny
11-23-2003, 12:44 PM
OK well im looking between 3 years. A 91, 93, or 96. Which do you think would be the best choice in all around stuff. Which goes 0-60 the fastest and which 1/4 mile is the fastest. And also which one would YOU pick if you could choose. Thanks
Trogdor
11-23-2003, 04:35 PM
96 was an good year for them, but they are very rare, even as far as 3/s cars go( any of those are rare period, not to mention the 96's) but a good choice. 91 there's alot of controversy over their egines, and souping them up, but ive seen some sweet 91's tho, so... just controversial. but theirs plenty of 91's (again as far as 3/s's are concerned... their all still rare cars!) 93 was a good year, i have yet to hear bad stuff bout them. i believe they have the 4 bolt that the 91's lacked. 93's good. in conclusion, if i had my choice, it'd be a 99 VR-4 !!!!! aaahhh.... so beautiful !!!! lol but, then again, ppl in hell want ice water... lol (translation, i cant have one[yet!!]) so in ur sit. id prolly get the 96 if i could, but a 93 would be badass as well, and since it would prolly be cheaper than the 96 i might get it instead... but their both harder to find then a 91, so i might just end up paying less than both of them and getting a 91... and if its a bit deal put a 2nd gen motor... bassicaly i have in no way answered ur question for u! :biggrin: but... its stuff to think on!
duchguy
11-23-2003, 06:57 PM
I like the 96 cause it still got the active aero, but it doesnt have the active exhaust and active struts anymore. The people in our DFW 3/S club seem to have the most is 92's. Like 80% of our club is first gen.
I have the OBDII dataloger but before I had a chance to use it Mitsubishi blew up my engine, now they replaced the short block, fixed after 11 days I take it out for a few hours bang Iam stalled at the sideof the road, wonder what it is now. At least they admitted fault and taking care of all the cost and are paying for a rental. Maybe finally they realize that running a car without any oil does require a whole new engine including new turbos not just a new short block oh well tomorrow we will see again , the good thing isthat my old engine had 105000 miles on it.
I have the OBDII dataloger but before I had a chance to use it Mitsubishi blew up my engine, now they replaced the short block, fixed after 11 days I take it out for a few hours bang Iam stalled at the sideof the road, wonder what it is now. At least they admitted fault and taking care of all the cost and are paying for a rental. Maybe finally they realize that running a car without any oil does require a whole new engine including new turbos not just a new short block oh well tomorrow we will see again , the good thing isthat my old engine had 105000 miles on it.
CUNTLIPS
12-13-2003, 03:35 AM
Hey, I Would Say The 94, Because Its The Second Gen, And Its The Best Thing You Can Get Without Paying The Price For The Spyder Vr4. Love Em, But Theyre Just Too Damn Expensive. At Least For Me...
The1NamedMarc
12-13-2003, 06:26 PM
Look for 93+
drjab88
12-15-2003, 11:39 AM
I would get a 96' because of looks, hopefully lower mileage, and they are faster cause from 94' and up they raised the horsepower in vr4's to 320 instead of 300
(nismo)
12-17-2003, 08:42 AM
hello
i am new to mitsu 300gt
i have a very simple Q (i am stupid)
is the mitsu 300gt is have another name is it call mitsu GTO cause when i first saw the 300 gt the design just looks like a GTO(i repeat i am stupid)
btw i am planning to have one (sigh looks like it will be very hard to get one damm u stupid R33)
i am new to mitsu 300gt
i have a very simple Q (i am stupid)
is the mitsu 300gt is have another name is it call mitsu GTO cause when i first saw the 300 gt the design just looks like a GTO(i repeat i am stupid)
btw i am planning to have one (sigh looks like it will be very hard to get one damm u stupid R33)
thelawnmower
12-17-2003, 10:30 PM
yeah but if you got a boost controller it wouldnt matter because the only difference is that they upped the boost in the turbo's....so it really only matters if you dont have a boost controller. and yes nismo the 3000gt (thousand buddy not hundred :) ) and the GTO are the same car. the 3000GT is the american name for it because pontiac trademarked it
~graham~
~graham~
(nismo)
12-18-2003, 12:31 AM
hey thanks thats is why all the 3000gt's in my country are call GTO
btw i am planning to buy(my little bro wan that car badly)
but i have saw 2 types of GTO(3000gt)during my visit 2 the used car center last week
it seems that the design of the front light of both cars are not the same.......(btw i am stupid)
btw i am planning to buy(my little bro wan that car badly)
but i have saw 2 types of GTO(3000gt)during my visit 2 the used car center last week
it seems that the design of the front light of both cars are not the same.......(btw i am stupid)
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