forced induction...
got v-tec?
11-15-2003, 10:14 PM
what do you all have?
Sluttypatton
11-16-2003, 06:39 PM
My SOHC motor threw it's timing belt during a high rev adventure and went crunch, so I decided now was the time to build my DOHC. I'm building a junkyard turbo setup for my DOHC motor, using a TD05H-14B from a 1G Eclipse, it's only gonna be putting out 5psi (I haven't done the math yet, 5 is just a conservative figure) because my stock ECU only has control over +/- 25% of the fuel trims. I'm having a friends father CNC me an adapter plate so I dont have to buy a new manifold (I'm short on money for the moment). Not sure where I'm getting the intercooler yet, maybe an Eclipse. This isn't exactly my dream setup, just the cheapest way to get boost.
MustangRoadRacer
12-29-2003, 06:23 PM
450 to the wheels.
all motor.
thinking about N20 though.
347 stroker mustang.
all motor.
thinking about N20 though.
347 stroker mustang.
Polygon
12-30-2003, 03:09 PM
Currently the GTC project has a Garrett VNT25 single intercooled turbo on it. I plan to change it out to Garrett GT series single intercooled turbo, possibly a GT3 or GT3/4.
Cobra01TT
02-11-2004, 07:45 PM
Trying to get a Twin T3/T4 60-1 set up but it does cost a fortune($7500) for my car. When it happers though, I can make anywhere from 600 at 8psi to 100 at 14psi.
turbo2nr
03-15-2004, 09:32 AM
hehe stock ford probe gt with ihi turbo and intercooled.. mods are in my sig.. hoping for a turbo upgrade have decided on the turbo yey probably no bigger that .65a/r tho.. and raise my boost from 7psi to 12psi..
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Polygon
03-15-2004, 12:52 PM
hehe stock ford probe gt with ihi turbo and intercooled.. mods are in my sig.. hoping for a turbo upgrade have decided on the turbo yey probably no bigger that .65a/r tho.. and raise my boost from 7psi to 12psi..
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You should have a Garrett T03 on your car, which would be easily capable of 12PSI.
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You should have a Garrett T03 on your car, which would be easily capable of 12PSI.
turbo2nr
03-15-2004, 06:54 PM
can i find that used or do i have to buy it new.. if i can find a used 1 what car comes with it?
Polygon
03-15-2004, 09:15 PM
can i find that used or do i have to buy it new.. if i can find a used 1 what car comes with it?
No, what I'm saying is that I think your car comes with a Garrett T03 turbo.
No, what I'm saying is that I think your car comes with a Garrett T03 turbo.
turbo2nr
03-16-2004, 10:37 AM
no im pretty sure its a ihi turbo i been looking around on ford probe forums and read up on it its like a ihi25 but a little smaller..
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Polygon
03-16-2004, 04:45 PM
Oh, I guess it is the Ford Thunderbirds that had the T03 on them.
Corbin
03-17-2004, 02:43 PM
some t-birds did, others had the ihi rhb5
70z
03-21-2004, 08:52 PM
what do you all have?
1071 BDS Stage 3 Blower - Enderle EFI converted injection bug catcher.
1071 BDS Stage 3 Blower - Enderle EFI converted injection bug catcher.
PWMAN
10-19-2004, 09:58 PM
Look at my sig!
Ace$nyper
12-08-2004, 08:23 PM
N/A on my ride
next car probbly will have some PSI
next car probbly will have some PSI
integraso
12-08-2004, 09:02 PM
Hello, i have just purchased a 2000 Honda integra Vtir and i would like to upgrade the engine and possibly install a sequential turbo set-up....is this possible and moneywise on a budget of $10,000AU would this be possible......and what would need to be done to do this, are there any 6cyl engines compatible in an integra???
integraso
12-09-2004, 01:03 AM
Hey guys, thx "Got V-tec" for your reply....but i would like to know if anybody has seen a successfull integra sequential turbo set-up thats what i would really want.....possibly a t3/t4 for low rpm...and if possible a t60...for high end .....is that possible, or would the costs outweigh the benefits or simplicity of parrallel twins, or a single big one
BLU CIVIC
12-09-2004, 06:39 PM
Hey guys, thx "Got V-tec" for your reply....but i would like to know if anybody has seen a successfull integra sequential turbo set-up thats what i would really want.....possibly a t3/t4 for low rpm...and if possible a t60...for high end .....is that possible, or would the costs outweigh the benefits or simplicity of parrallel twins, or a single big one
no thread jacking :nono:
better ask in the Honda Forums
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1038
no thread jacking :nono:
better ask in the Honda Forums
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1038
AudioGuy93DelSol
12-13-2004, 06:56 PM
haha - thread jacking - anyway its n/a SOHC for me...thats bragging rights :grinyes:
superbluecivicsi
12-18-2004, 09:39 PM
i have a t3/t04e .63ar 50 trim comp wheel, blox cast manifold, 38mm tial wastegate, and a bunch of piping laying around. I just need a motor to work with :(
PWMAN
12-19-2004, 01:08 PM
i have a t3/t04e .63ar 50 trim comp wheel, blox cast manifold, 38mm tial wastegate, and a bunch of piping laying around. I just need a motor to work with :(
You might have full boost by 5000 RPM with that turbo, bad choice for a sub-2.0L engine.
You might have full boost by 5000 RPM with that turbo, bad choice for a sub-2.0L engine.
superbluecivicsi
12-19-2004, 02:43 PM
yes, but, imagine what the top end will have for you ;)
PWMAN
12-19-2004, 04:29 PM
Is it a stage 3 wheel in the turbine? Thats what usually comes with the 50 trim compressor side.
I have the .63 stage 1, 70 trim T3 turbo on my 2.2 chrysler. Now, it cannot be compared at all because I have a SOHC 2 valve per cylinder head, but for 8V status this turbo is good for 300 WHP easily. Typically for a 16V head you can have 30% more power over an 8V head, meaning that turbo is capable of 400 WHP. Now on a smaller engine such as the 1.6L you are running that turbo is simply way to large unless you plan to have 500+ WHP. If you switched to a straight T3 turbo with a Grand National wheel (70 trim, 2nd largest T3 wheel) and a .63 stage 1 you *might* loose 10 HP but have full spool atleast 1000 RPM sooner. The trade-off is way worth it, you should have *atleast* 40 more ft/lbs of mid range torque compared to that Hybrid.
Also, the TO4E wasn't the best choice either. E wheels are pressure wheels, you want a B wheel for a 16 valve head which flows better.
An excellent turbo for up to 350 WHP on a Honda 1.6-1.8L would be an S trim TO4B wheel with either a .48 stage 2 turbine or a .63 stage 1.
I have the .63 stage 1, 70 trim T3 turbo on my 2.2 chrysler. Now, it cannot be compared at all because I have a SOHC 2 valve per cylinder head, but for 8V status this turbo is good for 300 WHP easily. Typically for a 16V head you can have 30% more power over an 8V head, meaning that turbo is capable of 400 WHP. Now on a smaller engine such as the 1.6L you are running that turbo is simply way to large unless you plan to have 500+ WHP. If you switched to a straight T3 turbo with a Grand National wheel (70 trim, 2nd largest T3 wheel) and a .63 stage 1 you *might* loose 10 HP but have full spool atleast 1000 RPM sooner. The trade-off is way worth it, you should have *atleast* 40 more ft/lbs of mid range torque compared to that Hybrid.
Also, the TO4E wasn't the best choice either. E wheels are pressure wheels, you want a B wheel for a 16 valve head which flows better.
An excellent turbo for up to 350 WHP on a Honda 1.6-1.8L would be an S trim TO4B wheel with either a .48 stage 2 turbine or a .63 stage 1.
superbluecivicsi
12-19-2004, 08:18 PM
tis a stage 3 wheel. im hoping for a 600hp+ crx track monster. this turbo actually came from my little brother who bought it from ebays ssautocrap.com or one of his counter ebay names a while back. It actually looks pretty damn good for all the crap products autochrome has been known for. i however am aware that this turbo may(will) crap along the way. I am hoping for the precision gt35r .70 ar instead, but, that should be the least of my concerns right now. Its a long road to go.
superbluecivicsi
12-19-2004, 08:25 PM
PWMAN
12-19-2004, 10:23 PM
Ahh, now things make sense. That turbo should atleast get you to 500 WHP, which is about 600 at the crank.
Hypsi87
12-19-2004, 11:59 PM
I just bought a Limit engineering TE-66 dual ball bearing water cooled centersection turbo.
I have a TE-63 right now with Alcohol injection.
25 PSI on pump gas and 27 PSI on race fuel. (118 octane NOS grade torco)
I have a TE-63 right now with Alcohol injection.
25 PSI on pump gas and 27 PSI on race fuel. (118 octane NOS grade torco)
Polygon
12-20-2004, 01:42 AM
I guess I need to make a correction. I just noticed that my first post in this thread states that the GTC project has a VNT25. Well, I sold that project car a while ago and swapped it with a year older GTC with a Garrett T03.
Eventually I want to swap it with a Garrett GT series turbo, possibly a GT28. However, I want to be making in the low to mid 400WHP @ 25+ PSI with a half descent spool time. I need to talk with Chris at Turbos Unleashed to see what he can do for me.
Too bad my turbo alone will cost close to $2,000.
Eventually I want to swap it with a Garrett GT series turbo, possibly a GT28. However, I want to be making in the low to mid 400WHP @ 25+ PSI with a half descent spool time. I need to talk with Chris at Turbos Unleashed to see what he can do for me.
Too bad my turbo alone will cost close to $2,000.
PWMAN
12-20-2004, 04:02 PM
POLYGON where do you get $2K? The ball bearing turbo from TU is $1600, but you don't need that turbo to get 400 WHP. Just get the same turbo SUPERBLUECIVICSI has, a 50 Trim with the .63 stage 3 turbine. Or you can go with a 57 trim too, but it will be more laggy, either way the stage 3 wheel in the turbine is plenty good for 400 WHP. That turbo is only $700.
Is this going on a 2.2 or 2.5?
http://turbosunleashed.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=187
Is this going on a 2.2 or 2.5?
http://turbosunleashed.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=187
Polygon
12-21-2004, 07:51 PM
Yeah, I know I don't need a GT series to get 400 HP. I want the GT series because they are more efficient, have better bearings, and have quicker response. I figured $1,600 plus whatever hardware I'll need to go with it like a 3" swing valve, mounting flange for the TU header, 3" down pipe, and whatever else I might need to mount it.
I was originally looking into a T3/T4 hybrid, but I want some of the newer technologies with this turbo. As for my engine, it’s a 2.2L common block. I have yet to work out some compressor maps to decide which turbo would suite the 2.2L best. That is also something I wanted to talk to Chris about.
I was originally looking into a T3/T4 hybrid, but I want some of the newer technologies with this turbo. As for my engine, it’s a 2.2L common block. I have yet to work out some compressor maps to decide which turbo would suite the 2.2L best. That is also something I wanted to talk to Chris about.
PWMAN
12-21-2004, 08:30 PM
Of course Chris is gonna want to sell you the BB turbo, LOL. But second choice and $ wise, the 50 trim is the best for a hi-po 2.2, the 57 trim is better for a 2.5. You can add the quick spool option for $40, and the stage 3 turbine is very aerodynamic and very up to date as far as technology.
slipknotcraig133
12-22-2004, 07:25 PM
n/a and i dont plan to turbo
superbluecivicsi
12-22-2004, 10:40 PM
there is no such thing as a good all around turbo for any application. too many factors in trying to pick a snail. just figure and compare what you want first before looking and buying. SET A GOAL, and figure what you want out of it..................all will fall in place.
PWMAN
12-23-2004, 04:38 PM
Heh, that didn't work for me. I first set my goal at 250 WHP, then I scored a sweet deal on a header (good for 30+ HP on these cars) so I also swapped from a .48 turbine to a .63 (still stage 1 wheel). Now my goal is 300 WHP. But the bad part is with my original goal the tranny I have would have held up no problem, now it's a risk. But hey if it blows I'll get a better unit. Also I bought the 190 LPH fuel pump as opposed to the 255 unit to save $15. At 250 WHP, no problem. At 300, well it will get kinda iffy but I think it's OK I'm more worried about the tranny.
My point is, goals change. Once you get to your first goal you will want more. So do it right the first time.
My point is, goals change. Once you get to your first goal you will want more. So do it right the first time.
NOBU-SAN
02-18-2005, 11:34 AM
Right now I have a sohc in m 98 ex, I'm just dying to see if I could spend the same amount as I wanted to for the Performer X and build a JR supercharged engine, fully built, and run the same HP as the Edelbrock. My brother has tons of friends that think I'm retarded, they all run turbo dohc engines, but with a fully built engine, and the sc, I imagine it would be far more driveable, no sudden boost surges, lack of low end, etc. I love to drive, and not just in a straight line, so it seems very logical to me to give it a try. I'd love to hear the opinions or facts on that, and no I don't mean to be a thread jacker. I figured that's in line with the topic.
NOBU
NOBU
MexSiR
02-23-2005, 10:18 PM
NA and I wish I had money for turbo, supercharger...probably installing a nitrous 55 shot kit when I go to mexico but ill probably fuck up my engine...
superbluecivicsi
03-16-2005, 01:45 PM
Right now I have a sohc in m 98 ex, I'm just dying to see if I could spend the same amount as I wanted to for the Performer X and build a JR supercharged engine, fully built, and run the same HP as the Edelbrock. My brother has tons of friends that think I'm retarded, they all run turbo dohc engines, but with a fully built engine, and the sc, I imagine it would be far more driveable, no sudden boost surges, lack of low end, etc. I love to drive, and not just in a straight line, so it seems very logical to me to give it a try. I'd love to hear the opinions or facts on that, and no I don't mean to be a thread jacker. I figured that's in line with the topic.
NOBU
the JR at high boost is a heating monster. building your motor to handle more boost from the JR will give you disappointing results. it just gets harder to compress hotter air molecules. after a few pulls or on a hot day with the JRSC, your car will feel like shit due to the blower getting heatsoaked. you will experience detonation.
you will be better off addressing the heat and detonation problem than building your motor. a cooling system and engine management system will be helpful here.
if you decide to lower your compression and stregthen the internals a bit, you basically are telling yourself that you want more power, thus more boost. the jrsc will not get you there. its not that your retarded. its just that the jrsc will hit a wall. your motor will be finely suited for the jrsc with a good engine management system. you will prep up your motor for high boost, and realize that the turbo will get you to more power more easier. you dont fully build a motor for a jrsc. its not needed.
if you like the SC so much, go grab a smaller turbo. the jrsc is fun to use. instant power when you need it. you dont have to drop down to 4th to pass up other cars. its the way a stock motor should feel like.
PS: Im assuming your focusing your motor build up on an SOHC using a JRSC. if your still going to take the JRSC route to its extreme, go get a B16 or B18c1 instead of building your SOHC for the jrsc.
NOBU
the JR at high boost is a heating monster. building your motor to handle more boost from the JR will give you disappointing results. it just gets harder to compress hotter air molecules. after a few pulls or on a hot day with the JRSC, your car will feel like shit due to the blower getting heatsoaked. you will experience detonation.
you will be better off addressing the heat and detonation problem than building your motor. a cooling system and engine management system will be helpful here.
if you decide to lower your compression and stregthen the internals a bit, you basically are telling yourself that you want more power, thus more boost. the jrsc will not get you there. its not that your retarded. its just that the jrsc will hit a wall. your motor will be finely suited for the jrsc with a good engine management system. you will prep up your motor for high boost, and realize that the turbo will get you to more power more easier. you dont fully build a motor for a jrsc. its not needed.
if you like the SC so much, go grab a smaller turbo. the jrsc is fun to use. instant power when you need it. you dont have to drop down to 4th to pass up other cars. its the way a stock motor should feel like.
PS: Im assuming your focusing your motor build up on an SOHC using a JRSC. if your still going to take the JRSC route to its extreme, go get a B16 or B18c1 instead of building your SOHC for the jrsc.
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