Your srt divers are all the same

i was just parusing throuth the different threads and something hit me! i remeber someone saying that the neon had no reliablity problems, but then i look at the forums and all the threads ask questions on how to fix something

NOT TO START A ARGUMENT ABOUT THE DIFFEERNT CARS.

NOT TO START AN ARGUMENT?!?! what the fuck are you talking about? you say that your not to start an argument yet you barge in other peoples forums and start criticizing the srt-4.

Then i had a chance to get inside one...thats when I relized why the car was so cheap, bad interior, poor and uncomfortable seats, undeatailed design to name a few things. But i didnt mid that too much. What really turned me off to the car was people like you. Every time i go to one of these forums I see the same thing. Divers diafying there cars. Talking about how there awesome NEON kills corvettes and STIs. The only reason that could possiblly be true is YOUR NOT RACING ON A REAL TRACK/DRAG STRIP. Classic punk style. Red lighting and racing people who really dont feel like racing a turbocharged grocery-getter.

so thats not starting an argument huh?!?! well i have news for you you piece of shit!!! you already did start an argument just by saying this in the first place which you shouldnt have. why dont you just go back to your mommy and shut the fuck up you stupid mother fucking dumbass cock sucking bitch. its people like you who give all racers (not just honda) a bad name.

i was just parusing throuth the different threads and something hit me! i remeber someone saying that the neon had no reliablity problems, but then i look at the forums and all the threads ask questions on how to fix something

I think its time to leave for you once people with other cars are bashing you for coming here. You say you didn't want to start an argument but look what happened. If you were mature enough you would have left after the first couple of people bashed you but you just keep on coming. Us mature people will not stoop to your level and go to other forums and bash other cars.

i said i didnt want to start an argument about car vs car, but to talk about srt4 drivers doing unfair racing stratigys, when will you people get it. and how the fuck do i give racers a bad name. i put up an argument, look at it objectivly, your the one
bitchen and cursen

read this slowly:Then i had a chance to get inside one...thats when I relized why the car was so cheap, bad interior, poor and uncomfortable seats, undeatailed design to name a few things. But i didnt mid that too much. What really turned me off to the car was people like you. Every time i go to one of these forums I see the same thing. Divers diafying there cars. Talking about how there awesome NEON kills corvettes and STIs.

that is what this was suposed to be about, drivers diafying there cars to the point where a neon can kill a lightenfeller corvette as mentiond earlier.

wow neon rcr, writing with the elequence and style of a 2 year old. " Us mature people will not stoop to your level and go to other forums and bash other cars." lol that funny, us mature people, did mommy teach you how to be a grown up?

OK I didn't feal like reading 5 pages, but I did read 2.5. The SRT-4 is a much better car for the money. Yes HP numbers are similar, but the SRT-4 has 100 more f/p's of torque. So for the 20K price tag, and the $400 upgrade kit from Mopar performance, you can be smokin $32K S2000's all day long.
That spec about the S2000 going 0-60 in 4.9 is a bunch of BS. It's more like 5.5, SRT-4 is 5.6. Wow, $12K less-I think I'll stick with the $200 a month less payments thank you.

wow pwman you totally didnt understand what this was about at all. read teh whole thing then you can post.

i said i didnt want to start an argument about car vs car, but to talk about srt4 drivers doing unfair racing stratigys, when will you people get it. and how the fuck do i give racers a bad name. i put up an argument, look at it objectivly, your the one
bitchen and cursen

read this slowly:Then i had a chance to get inside one...thats when I relized why the car was so cheap, bad interior, poor and uncomfortable seats, undeatailed design to name a few things. But i didnt mid that too much. What really turned me off to the car was people like you. Every time i go to one of these forums I see the same thing. Divers diafying there cars. Talking about how there awesome NEON kills corvettes and STIs.

that is what this was suposed to be about, drivers diafying there cars to the point where a neon can kill a lightenfeller corvette as mentiond earlier.


you may or may not have put up an argument but you just merely saying...and i quote..."Then i had a chance to get inside one...thats when I relized why the car was so cheap, bad interior, poor and uncomfortable seats, undeatailed design to name a few things. But i didnt mid that too much. What really turned me off to the car was people like you. Every time i go to one of these forums I see the same thing. Divers diafying there cars. Talking about how there awesome NEON kills corvettes and STIs." that still does not give you the right and go to the neon forums and say these things. who cares about your opinions when you dont have any good to say about them? dont you get it? its you against everybody. so what if thats how neon/srt-4 drivers are (no offense to neon/srt-4 drivers...peace, just pointing my point to this sick fuck) thats still doesent give you the right to barge in like you just did. just let them be and they will let others be too...but look at what you have done...everybody is already against you because of what youve said. if youve just kept your stupid opinions to yourself, then all wouldve been fine. but ya had to speak your stupid opinions on other peoples forums and critisizing them for what they are. thats the reason why a lot of people think of racers are bad, particulary honda racers...its all because of narrow minded people like you. why dont you just open your mind up and appreciate what there is about what you are criticizing about.

ha...fag

Keep that up if you want to get banned.

wow i love this, got all you fags hot and botherd. well my question is, how did that dude with the 95 integrea "rip" me, going on about all i did was come here and talk shit, dude read the thread man, i was adressing how neon drivers exadurate wins alot, you guys are the fags that made this simply about neon vs s2000.THAT WASNT THE POINT OF THE THREAD. but regardless you dolts will ignore this reply and go on about the s2000vsneon o well, i cant expect you to understand, afterall, you did buy a neon.

p.s. how is the viper an amazing car, it gets its ass wooped in every comparison test outthere by the vette every year and the vette is 30 grand less...im not saying the viper isnt a cool car(which im sure most of you dumbasses will acuse me of) but i dont think it should be considerd a good car compared to others

1. You made it an SRT-4 Vs. S2000 argument with you first damn post, so don't keep bitching like we're the ones that started it. I also addressed the fact that some SRT-4 drivers out there are giving the others a bad name, but the way you came in here and presented yourself, you were simply asking for trouble and that is what you got. Now you're crying foul because we all came back and shoved it back in your face. Sorry to prove you wrong. Next time find somewhere else to troll.

2. Sorry to burst your bubble but the SRT-10 beats the Z06 in evey way and the SRT-10 is the convertible, the show off car. Just wait until the Competition Coupe Viper comes out. Every year the Viper has beaten the Corvette, I think you're confused.

Also, I said the SRT-4 does not have any reliability issues and it doesn't. The questions people are asking are about simple, small problems like O2 sensors. They are everyday small problems that tons of people with tons of different cars have everyday, yes, even Honda.

wow, mycivic...so you completely ran out of things to say cause i shut your ass down, so then you start bitching about nobody cares about my opnion...i pose a question: if noone cares about my opinion then why is this thread the most popular one on the neon forum? instead of accually responding to anything i had to say all you did was say"let drivers be who they want" i suppose you would want hiltler to be who he wanted to???

to polygon, how the hell did you prove me wrong, everything ive said is true. including the viper v vette. here are the comaprison tests: http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=3883&page_number=1

this is an exert takin from road and track about teh zo6: Without a doubt, Chevrolet's C5 Corvette is the best American car today, solid of structure and very fast. And though the Z06 is perhaps a bit too firm for everyday use, it shines on the track, a true world-class sports car that posted faster times around Thunderhill than all but one Italian machine ...a car triple its price. — Andrew Bornhop
and heres the link cause im sure non of you will belive me. http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=155&page_number=3

hopefully that puts an end to the viper debate, thats not what this is about.

all i ask from you neon drivers is to admit that alot of lying about races does exest in the neon camp, and more so that any where else ,because ive been to forums of all cars and neons are the worst for makeing it look easy to kill a supercar. if you admit your faults, ill never enter this forum again.

Well i also think some people are glorifying their cars saying they raced and beat an sti, evo, or a corvette. There are only three ways i see this happening one the other car is stock, two the other car isn't racing, or three the other driver cant drive. I heard some srt-4 owner say he beat a viper.( yeah right)But doesn't this happen with mustang owners and honda owners and all the others.
I personaly dont like the srt-4. Its interior/exterior aren't that great, but that can be fixed with a little bit of cash. The front end looks good but thats pretty much it. Yes it is a really great car for its price range and it can be made to go fast.

to polygon, how the hell did you prove me wrong, everything ive said is true. including the viper v vette. here are the comaprison tests: http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=3883&page_number=1

this is an exert takin from road and track about teh zo6: Without a doubt, Chevrolet's C5 Corvette is the best American car today, solid of structure and very fast. And though the Z06 is perhaps a bit too firm for everyday use, it shines on the track, a true world-class sports car that posted faster times around Thunderhill than all but one Italian machine ...a car triple its price. — Andrew Bornhop
and heres the link cause im sure non of you will belive me. http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=155&page_number=3

hopefully that puts an end to the viper debate, thats not what this is about.

all i ask from you neon drivers is to admit that alot of lying about races does exest in the neon camp, and more so that any where else ,because ive been to forums of all cars and neons are the worst for makeing it look easy to kill a supercar. if you admit your faults, ill never enter this forum again.

You are wrong and your own damn link says you are. The Viper was faster than the Vette and the Mustang on every test. The Vette won because of its price point, not because it was faster. Perhaps you should read the Motor Trend article where the Z06 and the Viper went head to head along with some other cars. All the cars were driven by Justin Bell, a C5-R driver. The Viper won against the Vette in every category. So I hope those words of yours taste bitter all the way down. Hell, perhaps you should read your own articles you posted again.

We don't have a problem here with SRT-4 owners exaggerating all the time with wild stories, so why don't you save us all the trouble and leave now. We have enough brainless, ignorant idiots at these forums as it is.

*sigh* This is the biggest load of hypocritical bullshit i have ever laid eyes on and read. First mistake you made, kid, was coming onto this forum and generalizing. If you have a problem with SRT-4 drivers exaggerating their stories, take it up with those that are doing the posing, not the vast majority of Neon owners who do not do it. Second, think before you speak. You really think coming in to this forum and trying to put down all neon owners is gonna win you respect or make people think highly of you and your precious car? No. It's going to give people the idea that you are nothing but an immature poser who has nothing better to do than come in here and start shit. You are being such a hypocrite in that you come on this board and complain about a few people that give false statements about their cars, and badmouthing others, while the whole time you are on here, you are doing the exact same thing. You give false performance statements and then lie about it saying you have proof when i can guarantee you that you are pulling most of this stuff out of your ass.

As for the people who say that their cars will beat something that is clearly able to outperform it, that's bullshit. I myself do not have any respect for those SRT-4 posers who say they have or can beat such cars as an Evo, STi, Lingenfelter Vette, Viper, etc. That is simply not true. As for the Corvette being a better performer than the SRT-10, that is a lie too. In the Vipers of the past, now, it may have been possible. The last two generations of Vipers were much harder cars to drive and much less forgiving than the SRT-10, although a driver who could master the skills needed to drive a Viper would have a highly potent car able to take on just about any other car in the world and give it a run for its money. However the new Viper is a very different and much meaner animal than the previous vipers, handling better and running faster than previous models. It out performs the ZO6 in every category with the exception of daily driving. But in a world of high-dollar sports cars, who buys a Viper for comfort?

But anyways, what i am trying to say is that I understand your anger for those SRT-4 fans who completely over-exaggerate and glorify their cars. But that gives you no right to come on here and act the exact same way as those who anger you. All you are doing is making things worse. In your best interest, i suggest you leave.
(notice not once did i call anybody a fag.)

Good job you didnt use the word fag. Thats impressive.

Good job :smokin:

Hey thats what i said you fag. j/k

wow, mycivic...so you completely ran out of things to say cause i shut your ass down, so then you start bitching about nobody cares about my opnion...i pose a question: if noone cares about my opinion then why is this thread the most popular one on the neon forum? instead of accually responding to anything i had to say all you did was say"let drivers be who they want" i suppose you would want hiltler to be who he wanted to???


so what if i ran out of things to say? but at least i know that what ive said is true and what youve done is wrong. no one cares about your opinions because nobody agrees with you. its just you against everbody. you shut my ass down?!?! yeah right...you call that my ass being shut down? what a sore loser you are when you call that my ass being shut down. it doesent even feel like it.

i said i didnt want to start an argument about car vs car, but to talk about srt4 drivers doing unfair racing stratigys, when will you people get it. and how the fuck do i give racers a bad name. i put up an argument, look at it objectivly, your the one
bitchen and cursen

you say you dont want to start an argument about car vs car? but to talk about srt4 drivers doing unfair racing strategies...ok thats kinda acceptable.

read this slowly:Then i had a chance to get inside one...thats when I relized why the car was so cheap, bad interior, poor and uncomfortable seats, undeatailed design to name a few things. But i didnt mid that too much. What really turned me off to the car was people like you. Every time i go to one of these forums I see the same thing. Divers diafying there cars. Talking about how there awesome NEON kills corvettes and STIs.

that is what this was suposed to be about, drivers diafying there cars to the point where a neon can kill a lightenfeller corvette as mentiond earlier.

but when you say this, criticizing the srt-4 simply contradicts what you first said. then in your first post where you say:

PERSONAL BONE TO PICK: it seems like the most popular "kill" is the s2000. i happen to admire the enginering(interior and exterior), body style and importantly the relitivly cheap price tag.(note: the s2000 pushes 240 ON A SMALLER NON-TURBO ENGINE) Yet the "almighty" srt-4 seems to kill it everytime.

that is already starting an argument about a car vs car. you are just contradicting your own words. nobody even agrees with you. whats the use in keeping your stand when there is no point to what you are saying? youve just made yourself look bad not only to yourself but to everybody as well. :flipa:

hey if you just stop posting here eventually this will all go away.

You know what I love the most about this thread? It's mostly non-Neon drivers taking up the fight. LOL

The bottom line is, drivers of every make and model brag about their car, and how "fast" it is. It's the old fish story... nothing new at all.

S2KFan, go finish the "Hooked on Phonics" series and get back to us, OK?

go finish hooked on phonics....what the hell?

the one that didn't make it


http://www.mgnpics.com/srt/wreck/00.jpg

go finish hooked on phonics....what the hell?

He was making light of your poor grammar and spelling skills. I don't see how you missed that one. :uhoh:

Blu Civic, man, why did you have to post that? Poor SRT, it reminds of a nasty Evo I saw the other day that looked like it was wrapped around a telephone pole. How sad. . . . . :crying:

He was making light of your poor grammar and spelling skills. I don't see how you missed that one. :uhoh:

I don't know how he missed it, either. I guess he's even slower than I thought he was.

Blu Civic, man, why did you have to post that? Poor SRT, it reminds of a nasty Evo I saw the other day that looked like it was wrapped around a telephone pole. How sad. . . . . :crying:

Was that the one that was driven straight out the dealer's window, into the telephone pole? Now THAT was really sad ...and stupid.

the srt-4's are cheap i was able to buy one for close to $22,000 and that's the 2005 models.

Well i for one am on the Srt-4 side. The s2000 is a really good car but there is a new SRT-4 on the way its a light wieght SRT-4 half of it is mad of carbonfiber overall its about 300-400lbs lighter so that means less time to get to 60 so wachout s2000. P.s. SRT-4 is better! So screw ricers.

SRT-4 guy right here. I've raced and beaten S2000's on several occasions. Street and track. All i had for mods were a short throw shifter. On average, beat every one by a carlength. I love it when people talk shit about my "little neon". I ask them politely if they'd like to line up next to me and put a little wager on it. Guess what they say? "Oh i don't race for money", or "I'm not even gonna waste my time", or the best one i've heard yet, "I don't have enough gas to race you but i'll be right back from the gas station and my car will mop the floor with your neon". On the nights we meet up, i stay parked in the same spot all night. But i suppose you wouldn't know anything about that since you have no car and probably need to be home before dark anyways.


The threads you seem to be mentioning about our cars breaking are the ones about the amateur tuners adding some "home-made" mods. People are trying all sorts of stupid shit with their cars and then wonder why they run funny. 99.9% of reliability issues on the internet are the result of improper tuning. Educate yourself before infecting the thoughts of others.

BTW, Dodge underrated the numbers of the SRT-4. Try 230-240 HP and 250-260 TQ AT THE WHEELS, not the crank. These numbers are for the '04-'05 models with the '03 being slightly lower. Stage 1 turbo upgrade is $300 not $400.


As for people beating sti's....i don't doubt it. There are an increasing number of SRT's with 400+ WHP running around. Sti's and Evo's number are around the 300 range and that's at the crank. Someone please correct me if i'm wrong on this but these two particular cars do not respond as well to mods as the SRT-4. The reason you see guys going after sti's and evo's is because there's virtually no competition in our own class. We have to go after the big boys or the moderately to highly modded WRX's or mustangs. If we race other FWD cars in our class, we're looked like bullies. But that's what you have to deal with when you get a kick ass car for 20K.


Well i've spoken my peace so take it or leave it but my opinions DO NOT speak for the rest of the srt community. Just one guy irritated with a young punk talking shit. Now go to bed S2kFan, you've got a big day at high school tomorrow. And maybe you should start paying more attention in English class as well. Just my .02.

I was going to post something, but it looks like most of the good qualities of the SRT4 have already been pointed out.

Hooray. ^_^

actually the STi responds well to mods....but the $ is what gets you...mostly b/c it is and H engine...i saw the break-down of and STi engine and was like :22yikes: ....very complicated

the interior of a srt-4 is simple because thers no need to have all of this fancy crap in it aside from that the s2k crappy amout of torque it weighs 300 pounds more

ohh yeah n/a engines is like masturbation without the pay off, turbo engines is like a hot night in cancun with a hot blonde from cali or sumthin. The reason i state this is because....... i used to have a non turbo eclipse automatic, now i have SRT-4 HA HA lol

...a N/A eclispse vs a FI neon...not a very good model to work with....and i'm sorry but ur statement is worng b/c ur example is of 2 cars with very different hp...

how about comparing a FI car and a N/A car with the came hp...nothing to laugh at if ur the one whose boosted :grinno:

"turbocharged grocery-getter" I think this is my favorite part. I'm pretty shure thats an oxymoron.
s2kfan01-
Are you completely unaware that Honda fans are the laughing joke of the automotive industry? Honda (import tuner) drivers are known around the car world as the biggest posers out there.(I think that was uncalled for)
Though I was unaware of that, maybe I can't hear them b/c their so far behind me?

i didn't know there was a SRT 4 DIVING group. :grinno:

hmm blu civic.... good point but u still cant beat the blow off sound , the olny thing i must say tha n/a is cool for would be the fact that ther is no turbo lag but i find turbo to be a more efficient way of getting quick power and responce in str8 line, most force induction vehicles would kick ass of a line instace an s2k since its already in the disscusion, against a tunned civic n/a or an srt-4 and for the sake of disscusion all of the cars have 280 hp. i would say the civic would eat the s2k and so would the srt-4 but then the srt-4 would either A. beat the civic right away or B. have a longer race in which that would be settled by driving skill
but honestly if a civic driver can smoke an srt or anything out of is class range for that matter deserves respect, like a friend that i have in a 93 civic hatchback dx. i saw him beat a v-6 stang and keep up real well with a 93 thunder bird the one with the v-8

...a N/A eclispse vs a FI neon...not a very good model to work with....and i'm sorry but ur statement is worng b/c ur example is of 2 cars with very different hp...

how about comparing a FI car and a N/A car with the came hp...nothing to laugh at if ur the one whose boosted :grinno:


I'm still laughing, a 250 WHP honda won't touch me. Why? Because I have 300+ ft/lbs of torque to the wheels. The honda might have 200. Yes hooking up is a pain in the ass, but I'll just whip out the drag radials that I go to the track with for that particular race. N/A sucks balls, you have NO low end power whatsoever because you have to run big cams to get power. And yes yes, VTEC....an ingenius idea for sure, but is a pain in the ass to tune without major equipment $$$.
Hell, I had a run-in with an LS1 T/A recently. As he was getting on the highway, I was in the left lane. I got on it and right beside him let my BOV vent (turboXS type H). Instantly he got right behind me (traffic in right lane). A long grade was coming up, we start up the hill....I downshift to 4th and get in the right lane. I let him dump it first, I floored it when he got to my back bumper. From 70 to 110 MPH I gained 1/2 car length on him. Not much, but not bad for a 250 WHP daytona. And my daytona is heavy, fully optioned power everything, 3100 pounds w/driver. And I STILL wouldn't mind racing a 2800 pound N/A integra with 250 WHP (if you can get that much out of an N/A engine on pump gas), thats a 30 HP advantage to the teg.
I used to be into Hondas. Then I found the torque advantage of turbo dodge's. These cars are the muscle cars of the 80's that get good gas mileage.
I'd like to see and SRT-4 race a S2K any day.

One other thing...The SRT-4 isn't a Neon. I went to my insurance company to get a quote on one once, and as we were going through I said neon SRT-4...no results! The Dodge SRT-4 is it's own classification, no neon in there. It's nothing like a neon anyway!
Of course, I couldn't afford the insurance payments though :eek: I could afford the car payment no problem, but tack on another 200 a month for insurance :headshake
For my daytona AND my 77' dodge truck I pay $700 a year.

dude it's alot of money especially if ur 19 with an srt-4 its nearly $400 for me monthly for insurance

dude it's alot of money especially if ur 19 with an srt-4 its nearly $400 for me monthly for insurance

Dude I'm 19 too and got quoted $200 a month. But I do have allstate insurance, reputable for lower rates.
If you're referring to the car being expensive, how can you do that? Thats a whole lot of car for $21K. Considering the S2K is like 34K, and an SRT-4 is just as fast if not faster.

grr lucky u pwman ur prolly right and u live in pa. im down here in 305 land

I know this thread might be all but over but I figured I'd post my say anyways.

S2kfan, Your are a complete idiot and an arrogant little twit to say in the least. You say that SRT-4 driver over exadurate wins? are you kidding me? You want to talk about people exadurating wins talk about allot of the 16 year old honda owners like yourself. In my personal experience someone told me that they had thier honda with intake exaust and a chip beat a TT supra. Now, I don't know about you but a TT Supra is a pretty fast car from what I understand. Also you see allot of my new civic just smoked a camaro, then they brag about they beat a Z28 or even some times as bold to say they smoked an SS this cannot happen. Hell even you wonderful S2000 couldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell against a stock Z28 or an SS camaro in a race let alone a Civic that wasn't boosted or on a hell of lot of Nitrous. You come here and saying SRT driver exadurate wins, sure everyone does, but look at your own forums first and listen to talk of the people around you, Honda owners are know to talk shit the most, no offense to the guys who have been posting in this thread because obviously they have some common sense and know what they are talking about. Ever type of car has drivers that over rate what they do, its life, your 16, you probabaly drive a 1986 subaru justy that cant pull an 18 in the 1/4th on a good day. I've been working on cars when you were still playing with tonka trucks, if you have any opinions on what I said feel free to comment. But I think I adressed along with many others what you said you "really" came here to talk about.

Now because I know you can't deny these facts your going to call me a fag just because your a 16 your old twit who can't stand to be wrong. No go back to your little rice boy honda forum you came from and tell them how the big bad neon boys hurt your feelings.