My Camaro
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 05:13 PM
As many of you know, my 1:1 car is a 2000 Camaro SS, and heres my tribute to one of the greatest new/extinct (stopped production in fall of 2002) muscle cars. As with this kit (Revell's 2002 Camaro SS 35th anniv ed.) and the 1:1, the Camaro comes with one of the greatest engines. The LS1, which is also used in the C-5, and is the base of the LS6 engine IN the Z06/LS6. This one will have a pair of Z06 Rims, and will be a hardtop. So far, all i've done was putty the front facia up. Its pretty inaccurate, and i re-carved one of the body lines. This will also feature a pair of Corvette fuel rail covers, and the SLP front mount license plate holder. (like on the 1:1 car) If you want some 1:1 pics check out http://www.cardomain.com/id/camarossboy346 . Also check out page 3 :icon16: . aND YES, IT WILL BE SILVER.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_101_full.jpg
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My camera.. :screwy:
Just threw on a junk chassis/interior..
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(up in the mountains of Pocono Pennsylvania at my time-share resort... might have to get some lowering springs..)
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http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_104_full.jpg
My camera.. :screwy:
Just threw on a junk chassis/interior..
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_105_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_17_full.jpg
(up in the mountains of Pocono Pennsylvania at my time-share resort... might have to get some lowering springs..)
EMAXX
11-12-2003, 05:55 PM
Very cool. Keep us posted and post lots of pics. I love Camaros. Awesome, powerful, and very beautiful cars.
very beautiful 1:1 car you have there too. How is the mpg, and the insurance on it?
very beautiful 1:1 car you have there too. How is the mpg, and the insurance on it?
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 06:15 PM
insurance is about $300, it can get 19 MPH when i dont have a heavy right foot. But it gets 17 MPG most of the time.. lol
Sebstar
11-12-2003, 07:05 PM
what kinda power (kw) do they have?
ProSStreet
11-12-2003, 07:12 PM
bad ass
Camber
11-12-2003, 07:24 PM
Awesome.. I live 20 minutes away from the pocono mountains in scranton...
Hawk312
11-12-2003, 07:31 PM
Can`t wait to see this one! Then again, I am partial to SLP cars for some reason. :D
it can get 19 MPH when i dont have a heavy right foot. But it gets 17 MPG most of the time.
You are talking city right? I was able to get 30-35 mpg on the highway fairly easily when mine was stock. Even with the supercharger and new fuel system, I would imagine I am still up over 25 mpg city. Not bad for 525hp, huh? :)
what kinda power (kw) do they have?
Not sure what "kw" means, but they are advertised at 320HP, which is about what most dyno at the wheels. This is about 350-370HP at the crank. 0-60mph times would be high 4 seconds to low 5 seconds. Quarter mile times are low 13`s typically (mine went 13.2 with bad traction), and a good driver will get it in the 12`s with drag radials. At the end of the strip, you will be doing 108-112mph approximately, according to what I was running. Top speed is a governed 159mph.
it can get 19 MPH when i dont have a heavy right foot. But it gets 17 MPG most of the time.
You are talking city right? I was able to get 30-35 mpg on the highway fairly easily when mine was stock. Even with the supercharger and new fuel system, I would imagine I am still up over 25 mpg city. Not bad for 525hp, huh? :)
what kinda power (kw) do they have?
Not sure what "kw" means, but they are advertised at 320HP, which is about what most dyno at the wheels. This is about 350-370HP at the crank. 0-60mph times would be high 4 seconds to low 5 seconds. Quarter mile times are low 13`s typically (mine went 13.2 with bad traction), and a good driver will get it in the 12`s with drag radials. At the end of the strip, you will be doing 108-112mph approximately, according to what I was running. Top speed is a governed 159mph.
Honoturtle
11-12-2003, 08:11 PM
This is great! And you got the best sort of reference there is!
Also, nice to see you correcting some of Revell's mistakes.
Also, nice to see you correcting some of Revell's mistakes.
ratdat
11-12-2003, 08:21 PM
Hey this is cool..making a model of your own car :biggrin: No excuse for any innacuracies :iceslolan Cool thing is you can try stuff out to see wether it'd look goon on your real car like lowering or different wheels.
It's rare to see these late Camaros over here..shame they stopped making them.
Is that a Datsun 510 tuner I see in the background there ? :naughty:
It's rare to see these late Camaros over here..shame they stopped making them.
Is that a Datsun 510 tuner I see in the background there ? :naughty:
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 08:38 PM
My times were made on a drag calculator. 13.57 @ 105 EST. 307 (?) RWHP EST. 325 RWTQ EST. All i know is, on these country roads it pulls harder then anything i've ever driven. I also have to get my car checked, i think it has a custom exhaust system. Its alot louder then all the other SS's in my area (about 5 or 6) I just gotta get my spare tires on the back so i can light 'em up (and once i get my garage built). The fastest 100% stock Z28 (non SS) was ran to a 12.98 W/ a T56, driven by Evan Smith. The fastest SLP car is also a 12.9 called "Orange Crush" a Sunset Orange WS6 T/A. (Just to compare, the Mustang 2001 GT 4.6 2v only runs 14.9, and the 4v (Cobra) only runs 14.3 or so). Also check out some of the pics i took from Richmond Int'l. Tmes are written on the windows, check some of the times out* Also, (GM) HP numbers increased by 5 with the 2001 model line up (320-325), and of course, the SLP LE SS which makes 345 HP. Although, i couldnt get the LE edition.... 17.5 for a standard SS with 38,662 miles.. who could pass that up..heh. Although it know has close to 60K miles. But im driving it less and less, so eventually time will catch up.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_109_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_106_full.jpg This SS only has a hypertech chip. Its a chip for automatics (like mine) so when you drive at WOT the transission will shift at redline.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_107_full.jpg
This mustang had a MAC cold air intake i belive, and its head light was removed (better air flow)
..Heres one for ya Hawk, unfortunatly this was the test and tune session, so times werent recorded.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_110_full.jpg
And FYI, the Mustang spilled oil all the way down the track
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_112_full.jpg
SS vs SS! the Vert ran a 13.56, not sure waht the red one ran.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_113_full.jpg
For the non belivers.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_109_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_106_full.jpg This SS only has a hypertech chip. Its a chip for automatics (like mine) so when you drive at WOT the transission will shift at redline.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_107_full.jpg
This mustang had a MAC cold air intake i belive, and its head light was removed (better air flow)
..Heres one for ya Hawk, unfortunatly this was the test and tune session, so times werent recorded.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_110_full.jpg
And FYI, the Mustang spilled oil all the way down the track
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_112_full.jpg
SS vs SS! the Vert ran a 13.56, not sure waht the red one ran.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_113_full.jpg
For the non belivers.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 08:41 PM
heh, yeah, thats a 510. It also has an RB2XDET?
Its definatley a skyline engine i know that..
Its definatley a skyline engine i know that..
ratdat
11-12-2003, 09:04 PM
heh, yeah, thats a 510. It also has an RB2XDET?
Its definatley a skyline engine i know that..
Someone sent me one of those from the States. Hehe..I noticed that they had a six cylinders under the hood! :iceslolan
A 12 second 1/4 is incredible for any factory car. I'm amazed that 4.6 litres of mustang only runs 14.9. My 510 ran 14.85 the first time I ever took it to the strip and that was with a feeble launch ...the hard launch on the previous run busted the diff :eek7: and I busted it's replacement on the run after :cwm27: Two diffs in three runs...I went home after that (on a tow rope :mad: )
There's not much here in the UK with the kind of muscle a V8 has. My 510 is quick and fun but V8 deliver the power so differently. I have a '69 Javelin (http://www.ratdat.com/jav) and the torque that has is unreal. It was used exclusively for amateur drag racing for years and in it's hey day (early 80's) ran mid 11's. The best in it's current guise is 13.01. I love it even though it's hopless at going round corners or stopping :cwm27:
Its definatley a skyline engine i know that..
Someone sent me one of those from the States. Hehe..I noticed that they had a six cylinders under the hood! :iceslolan
A 12 second 1/4 is incredible for any factory car. I'm amazed that 4.6 litres of mustang only runs 14.9. My 510 ran 14.85 the first time I ever took it to the strip and that was with a feeble launch ...the hard launch on the previous run busted the diff :eek7: and I busted it's replacement on the run after :cwm27: Two diffs in three runs...I went home after that (on a tow rope :mad: )
There's not much here in the UK with the kind of muscle a V8 has. My 510 is quick and fun but V8 deliver the power so differently. I have a '69 Javelin (http://www.ratdat.com/jav) and the torque that has is unreal. It was used exclusively for amateur drag racing for years and in it's hey day (early 80's) ran mid 11's. The best in it's current guise is 13.01. I love it even though it's hopless at going round corners or stopping :cwm27:
86_SR5
11-12-2003, 09:23 PM
mike, thats cool your building your car, any possibilities of it having something your car doesn't except for the Z06 rims?
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 09:41 PM
Nope. Hell, i even converted it to automatic (revell version is 6 speed)
86_SR5
11-12-2003, 09:44 PM
heh, well. Whenever I get my trueno (like my SR5) its gona have a supra TT motor in it (thanks to the F n F supra) race seats, cage, sound, maybe laffing gas, and possibility of LHD.
EMAXX
11-12-2003, 10:02 PM
Haha, the first pic of the black Camaro racing around the coner, the hood isn't all the way down.
Dang, if you can get that good of gas mileage, out of a sports car like the Camaro, thats pretty good. Insurance is so cheap for you too.
You have an automatic Camaro? You're kidding me, right? This has to be a joke.
Dang, if you can get that good of gas mileage, out of a sports car like the Camaro, thats pretty good. Insurance is so cheap for you too.
You have an automatic Camaro? You're kidding me, right? This has to be a joke.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 10:06 PM
No. Im not. 4L60E. AOD 4-Speed. A: More consistant for drag racing B: Leg doesnt get tired in traffic. BTW the hood is open so more air can get in the engine bay and cool it down.
EMAXX
11-12-2003, 10:11 PM
If you have it open like that, couldn't it just come up?
I guess if you like auto's, thats cool. Me personally, I'll never buy an auto, unless its for like a wife or something in the future. I just like standard shift better. If it works for you though, I guess I shouldn't make fun. I'm sorry I said that.
I guess if you like auto's, thats cool. Me personally, I'll never buy an auto, unless its for like a wife or something in the future. I just like standard shift better. If it works for you though, I guess I shouldn't make fun. I'm sorry I said that.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 10:30 PM
lol. No.... when you pop the lever from the inside, theres still a lever you have to pop on the outside.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-12-2003, 10:33 PM
putty help!
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_114_full.jpg
the area where the circle is (right at point) i have to put putty. But everytime i sand it, it always breaks apart and falls off. Help..anyone?
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_114_full.jpg
the area where the circle is (right at point) i have to put putty. But everytime i sand it, it always breaks apart and falls off. Help..anyone?
asaenz
11-13-2003, 07:29 AM
Hi CamaroSSBoy346,
Cool I can help someone out. I usually lurk and learn from everyone else
I bet you are using model putty, testors?
Use really automotive putty.
I use EverCoat (brand) Metalworks 100420 Easy Sand (flowable polyester Finishing and blending putty).
You can get it at bodyshops or stores that sale auto paint.
Don't forget to get the small tube of catalyst. You can get that at Wal-Mart. I tried Bondo from Wal-Mart but it is nowhere as good as EverCoat. I think Bondo is better than model car putty though.
That stuff will not let you down. It is so awesome, it can fill the smallest imperfections and will stay on your model when you sand.
Your Camaro is nice. American muscle, best performance for the price
I own my 1999 Nissan Sentra and when I finish college I am getting a Camaro or maybe a Mustang. I like the early 90s Camaro. I will keep my Sentra and build me one bad camaro probably a 383 stroker or something, then some nice fat low profile rims and tires (G-machine). I should draw a picture :)
alfred
Cool I can help someone out. I usually lurk and learn from everyone else
I bet you are using model putty, testors?
Use really automotive putty.
I use EverCoat (brand) Metalworks 100420 Easy Sand (flowable polyester Finishing and blending putty).
You can get it at bodyshops or stores that sale auto paint.
Don't forget to get the small tube of catalyst. You can get that at Wal-Mart. I tried Bondo from Wal-Mart but it is nowhere as good as EverCoat. I think Bondo is better than model car putty though.
That stuff will not let you down. It is so awesome, it can fill the smallest imperfections and will stay on your model when you sand.
Your Camaro is nice. American muscle, best performance for the price
I own my 1999 Nissan Sentra and when I finish college I am getting a Camaro or maybe a Mustang. I like the early 90s Camaro. I will keep my Sentra and build me one bad camaro probably a 383 stroker or something, then some nice fat low profile rims and tires (G-machine). I should draw a picture :)
alfred
EMAXX
11-13-2003, 08:56 AM
lol. No.... when you pop the lever from the inside, theres still a lever you have to pop on the outside.
I knew that you had to pop another under the hood with your hands, but still, it wouldn't be to safe to be doing that, would it? I heard that if you even just pop it up just from inside, you could make it pop up when your driving. I don't know. Maybe what I heard before was wrong.
I knew that you had to pop another under the hood with your hands, but still, it wouldn't be to safe to be doing that, would it? I heard that if you even just pop it up just from inside, you could make it pop up when your driving. I don't know. Maybe what I heard before was wrong.
86_SR5
11-13-2003, 04:23 PM
Eugene, as far as I know it can't pop right open, I made a few speed runs at the track with my corolla nothing near as fast as my truck but slamming the gears is one helluva rush. I flipped up my headlights, removed the right one (air tube is right behind it) and poped my hood and made 3 passes and it never flew open, fastest run was a 15.95 or so, not bad if you consider it's pretty stock 4banger with a 5spd. BTW mike, use some bondo, that should work good.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-13-2003, 04:48 PM
The putty i use is Squadron white putty. I let the putty sit for a day (alot longer..) and heres the results.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_116_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_115_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_116_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_115_full.jpg
EMAXX
11-13-2003, 06:04 PM
Looks good. Very smooth.
I guess that if it hasn't poped up for you, and that guy in the Camaro was doing it, it's pretty safe.
I guess that if it hasn't poped up for you, and that guy in the Camaro was doing it, it's pretty safe.
86_SR5
11-13-2003, 08:10 PM
Also, if you have hood pins, with a good bit of metal wire on them, it wouldn't pop up with the hood popped slightly.
EMAXX
11-13-2003, 09:29 PM
Yeah. If you had some hood pins, it won't since that would just hold it, and you could still have it up a little. Are hood pins hard to install on 1:1 cars?
86_SR5
11-13-2003, 10:10 PM
truth be told, I've never done it. I'm thinking of doing it on my corolla though.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-14-2003, 07:59 PM
Okay, heres what i'vw done so far. The stance is all wrong, i might change the brakes, and change the rims..again..
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_121_full.jpg
Z06 Fuel rail covers; need touch up painting
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_119_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_120_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_121_full.jpg
Z06 Fuel rail covers; need touch up painting
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_119_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_120_full.jpg
86_SR5
11-14-2003, 08:25 PM
Mike, a little lowering on that car where about 2mm from the fender wells for the wheels and it'll look kiler.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-14-2003, 10:15 PM
Update: Not much, just gave it its final coat of paint, and did a little touch up paiting, but heres "Camaro through the years..36 years of blowing the "little pony" off the road"
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_122_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_122_full.jpg
pre98zetec
11-15-2003, 01:23 AM
Man you need to stfu about how "badass" camaros are, I garentee your automatic camaro will never reach 13.2 in the 1/4 mile, i'd like to see the stick do it. Mustangs infact will blow your camaro up, I dont care were you seen the 03 cobra runnin low 13's but ive seen right in front of my face a 03 cobra turn down a 12.628@ 113.82 MPH at my local 1/4 track. Lets see your "Camaro" blow the "Little Pony" off the road now....
Jonno
11-15-2003, 05:38 AM
Man you need to stfu about how "badass" camaros are, I garentee your automatic camaro will never reach 13.2 in the 1/4 mile, i'd like to see the stick do it. Mustangs infact will blow your camaro up, I dont care were you seen the 03 cobra runnin low 13's but ive seen right in front of my face a 03 cobra turn down a 12.628@ 113.82 MPH at my local 1/4 track. Lets see your "Camaro" blow the "Little Pony" off the road now....
Yeah man, I agree, we shouldn't pay out Fords because our local mechanics rely on them for business.... :iceslolan
Yeah man, I agree, we shouldn't pay out Fords because our local mechanics rely on them for business.... :iceslolan
CamaroSSBoy346
11-15-2003, 09:29 AM
lol. Yeah. Its really funny how ford needs to supercharge everything to be faster then the GM Cars. Hell, even SVT almost filed for bankruptcy. The only NON Supercharged (SVT Focus) was a total 16 second dud. And dont be a pussy and say "oh the mustang only has a 4.6" If for was so fucking great, they would have put the 5.4 in it like the Cobra R. But, i guess their too cheap to do that. And, actually it depends where you live. I mean, if you set a drag strip up in death vally the LS1 could easily cut 12.6. Put a track up in colorado and watch it run 13.9
pre98zetec
11-15-2003, 12:53 PM
lol. Yeah. Its really funny how ford needs to supercharge everything to be faster then the GM Cars. Hell, even SVT almost filed for bankruptcy. The only NON Supercharged (SVT Focus) was a total 16 second dud. And dont be a pussy and say "oh the mustang only has a 4.6" If for was so fucking great, they would have put the 5.4 in it like the Cobra R. But, i guess their too cheap to do that. And, actually it depends where you live. I mean, if you set a drag strip up in death vally the LS1 could easily cut 12.6. Put a track up in colorado and watch it run 13.9The Cobra R DOES have a 5.4 in it, Also in 95 they had a 5.8 liter in it. So i guess the fact that they are "Supercharged" means there bad? For could easyily make a 500HP N/A 5.4 or even a 4.6 liter. If everything that wasnt N/A was bad that rules out most of the cars you see on the road today....
Josh
Josh
86_SR5
11-15-2003, 01:05 PM
Well, mike, have you decided if your changing the wheels on it? IMHO, I wouldn't, if you do, use the 35th wheels or get some workmeisters.
CamaroSSBoy346
11-15-2003, 02:18 PM
no, im keeping the stock rims after all
Hawk312
11-15-2003, 04:05 PM
Man you need to stfu about how "badass" camaros are, I garentee your automatic camaro will never reach 13.2 in the 1/4 mile, i'd like to see the stick do it. Mustangs infact will blow your camaro up, I dont care were you seen the 03 cobra runnin low 13's but ive seen right in front of my face a 03 cobra turn down a 12.628@ 113.82 MPH at my local 1/4 track.
I don`t want to get into a Ford/GM debate because I like both F-Bodies and Mustangs. But a 6 spd LS1 will easily run 13.2, and it is not out out of reach for an automatic. I know because my `01 Trans Am and my `99 Firehawk both ran it stock, with traction problems. The `01 hit 111mph, and would easily be in the 12`s with a set of drag radials. This was at Cecil County Raceway which is very close to sea level. And as far as the Cobra, they will be pretty close to a `01-`03 SS/Firehawk in acceleration. There is more parasitic loss because of the IRS in the Cobra, plus the hp figures for the f-bodies are underated (many dyno at 310+ *at the rear wheels*) so it pretty much equals out. But I think both cars are great cause they both have V8`s. :) :)
I don`t want to get into a Ford/GM debate because I like both F-Bodies and Mustangs. But a 6 spd LS1 will easily run 13.2, and it is not out out of reach for an automatic. I know because my `01 Trans Am and my `99 Firehawk both ran it stock, with traction problems. The `01 hit 111mph, and would easily be in the 12`s with a set of drag radials. This was at Cecil County Raceway which is very close to sea level. And as far as the Cobra, they will be pretty close to a `01-`03 SS/Firehawk in acceleration. There is more parasitic loss because of the IRS in the Cobra, plus the hp figures for the f-bodies are underated (many dyno at 310+ *at the rear wheels*) so it pretty much equals out. But I think both cars are great cause they both have V8`s. :) :)
CamaroSSBoy346
11-15-2003, 05:32 PM
"but ive seen right in front of my face a 03 cobra turn down a 12.628@ 113.82 MPH at my local 1/4 track. "
I've seen 3 O3 cobras in my area. Never saw one at the track, let alone a pre 03 cobra. I guess cobra owners are to afraid to race lol j/k :thefinger
Anyways, heres progress. To say the least its not comming out to well. The stance is wrong even though it was lowered 1.5 MM, the front wheels have too much of a camber, lost one of the wheels, got the super glue acid/fog on my front windshield; now i cant get it out, and the putty cracked.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_124_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_123_full.jpg
then i accidently put orange paint on the wrong side (supposed to be at bottom; me being lazy and just using the refrance pics on box)
:bloated:
I've seen 3 O3 cobras in my area. Never saw one at the track, let alone a pre 03 cobra. I guess cobra owners are to afraid to race lol j/k :thefinger
Anyways, heres progress. To say the least its not comming out to well. The stance is wrong even though it was lowered 1.5 MM, the front wheels have too much of a camber, lost one of the wheels, got the super glue acid/fog on my front windshield; now i cant get it out, and the putty cracked.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_124_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370008_123_full.jpg
then i accidently put orange paint on the wrong side (supposed to be at bottom; me being lazy and just using the refrance pics on box)
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86_SR5
11-15-2003, 06:07 PM
Mike, dipite those problems, I might have to build one like that as good as it's looking.
EMAXX
11-15-2003, 10:42 PM
The Cobra R DOES have a 5.4 in it, Also in 95 they had a 5.8 liter in it. So i guess the fact that they are "Supercharged" means there bad? For could easyily make a 500HP N/A 5.4 or even a 4.6 liter. If everything that wasnt N/A was bad that rules out most of the cars you see on the road today....
Josh
That doesn't really matter. He's not saying that their bad. What he's trying to say is that GM has a N/A, and then Ford has to supercharge everything to beat GM. If they took that supercharger off of there and had it N/A against N/A, the Mustang would get smoked.
I think you should drop this GM vs. Ford crap. Big deal, you like Ford's, he likes Chevy. WOW!!! Lets go and fight on the internet about it, and guess what? Not lead anywhere. WOW!!! So interesting.
Mike: Are you going to paint the roof black like the real one, or just leave it silver?
Josh
That doesn't really matter. He's not saying that their bad. What he's trying to say is that GM has a N/A, and then Ford has to supercharge everything to beat GM. If they took that supercharger off of there and had it N/A against N/A, the Mustang would get smoked.
I think you should drop this GM vs. Ford crap. Big deal, you like Ford's, he likes Chevy. WOW!!! Lets go and fight on the internet about it, and guess what? Not lead anywhere. WOW!!! So interesting.
Mike: Are you going to paint the roof black like the real one, or just leave it silver?
86_SR5
11-15-2003, 10:56 PM
Mike, btw, this just crossed my mind, how'd you do the roof? The 35th is soft top.
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