89 camero vs ls

this kid in school claims his 89 v6 camero 5spd will emberass my 93 ls i/h/e he has catback and im pretty sure thats all i dont know much about cameros but im pretty sure its 2.8 so whats he got like 190hp.
thanks for the input

camaro sorry about the spelling

my friend has a 89 camaro he has like 140hp bout as fast as my stock integra, my prelude si is faster tho

if ur a 5sp as well, as long as ur a DECENT driver, u should take him.

the V6's aren't much (can be, but not w/ only light modifications).

Unless his is an IROC-Z, it only has 140 hp at the crank. It's a bigger car than yours too, and heavier...you should probably take him, not by much though I believe.

yeah those things stock are not very quick, my friend has a stock 87 BMW 325i convertible, with an auto tranny and we raced a 2.8 camaro last night just for fun, we weren't really expecting a win or loss we were just screwing around. about even acceleration off the line but we pulled on him soon after the start.

I would expect a Ls with similar hp to the camaro (someone said it was like 140hp) would definitely pull on it due to weight. right?
either way you should be able to hang with him if not beat him.

I raced one in my 91 LS and got worked off the line. We were only in a 35 so I stopped. I'm an auto with some mods. The camaro wasn't IROC but did have exhaust and a manual tranny. I would not recomend racing for money on that one unless you got some upgrades. :disappoin

how is it that he has a v6 that is only 140 hp and also why wouldnt i beat him if we have the same car but mine is quite a bit lighter??

thanks for the input

i dont know about the 89, but my ex girlfriend had a 1990, the 90's have a 3.1 v6/5spd.... she got beat by a 93 saturn sc2 with a 5 speed.... i think if i was driving i coulda kept up, maaaaybe taken him.... but yeah that car wasnt very fast, i drove an auto LS integra before and i think that car may have been quicker than her camaro

how is it that he has a v6 that is only 140 hp and also why wouldnt i beat him if we have the same car but mine is quite a bit lighter??

thanks for the input


i think that the 89 was a 2.8 liter right? anyway to answer your question, his engine is more than likely alot less efficient than yours is so that why a engine twice the size only makes the same hp. and to answer the second question you would more than likely beat him if you can drive well, also it depends on whether you are auto or 5spd the auto will steal some of your power.

another thing is that honda hp numbers are at the crank which means you get alot less at the wheels, GM might give hp ratings at the wheels, but i doubt it because why would a car company give a smaller hp rating when the could give a higher one.
oh yeah and if his 140 which is even to yours and if yours is a 5spd, he will prolly still have more hp to the wheels due to your drivetrain (frontwheel) will steal more power then his rear wheel drive train ( I think, i'm not possitive about this one?)

i think that the 89 was a 2.8 liter right? anyway to answer your question, his engine is more than likely alot less efficient than yours is so that why a engine twice the size only makes the same hp. and to answer the second question you would more than likely beat him if you can drive well, also it depends on whether you are auto or 5spd the auto will steal some of your power.

another thing is that honda hp numbers are at the crank which means you get alot less at the wheels, GM might give hp ratings at the wheels, but i doubt it because why would a car company give a smaller hp rating when the could give a higher one.
oh yeah and if his 140 which is even to yours and if yours is a 5spd, he will prolly still have more hp to the wheels due to your drivetrain (frontwheel) will steal more power then his rear wheel drive train ( I think, i'm not possitive about this one?)

The rear wheel drive car will have more hp loss than the FWD. There are alot more things to turn in a RWD than a FWD. Also to answer the question at hand as long as you are a good driver you will rape him. I have raced a few IROC's and beaten a couple of times and lost a couple of times but all where real close, N/A too no juice. The 80's style camaros are kinda lame IMO

thanks and yea i do have 5 spd

i raced one of the old school camaro's once going on the onramp toward the freeway and i was suprised that i won. don't know much on the exact model, but it was the boxy version like in the late 80's. it had two exhaust pipes on both sides coming out of the rear end so my inference was that it was a v-8, but i couldn't see how my car beat a v-8 unless those year v-6's had two pipes also. :screwy:
well to continue, he was infront of me in the car pool lane by about two car lengths and we were both at around 45-55 mph, can't recall exactly. then out of nowhere in the distance i can lightly hear his engine roar, black fumes being thrust out of the exhaust and him moving away from me. i figured what the heck and thrust my gear down from 5th to 3rd and we were off. slowly i caught up to him, but since i was behind him in the carpool lane, i had to switch to the next right lane. at around 90 we were almost side by side, switch into 4th gear and at about 100-110, i was slowly pulling on him by about 1/4 car length. he/or she then commenced to slow down, maybe to give me the imppresion that he wasn't trying to race or that he was just giving up. :screwy:
well to conclude i was really surprised from the outcome and was kinda sweating kinda jumpy feeling u know after u just race. my thought at that time was "whoa? did i just beat a old school v-8 camaro with my teg?" well i didn't know for sure, just that it had two exhaust pipes. but to give the camaro some credit, it wasn't in the best condition by looking at the faded paint, not to mention it was pretty dirty, and it also appeared to be stock. i on the other hand had some simple bolts- aem cai and greddy exhaust and try to keep my car in the best shape by little things here and there. still though, don't see these little advantages is going to bump my hp by much. after a couple of days, im thinking it must have been a v-6, but if that was a v-8, i would be really really shocked.

Personally I would only own one of three camaro's a 68-69 camaro 69 copo (oh yea baby) or the latest body style SS. Those are the only camaros that I like personally, but everybody has their own taste.

y not 67

Personally I would only own one of three camaro's a 68-69 camaro 69 copo (oh yea baby) or the latest body style SS. Those are the only camaros that I like personally, but everybody has their own taste.

hell yeah. Yenko baby,(copos are nice too) .67-69's and 98 and up z28(ls1s).

It was cool back in the day, my dad had a 69 RS my neighbor had a 67 and his step son had a 68 RSS. Badass stuff.

67's are still the best the originals and came from the factory with 9 different engine options

heres the thing you guys gotta understand...... stock, the 3rd gen camaros, are not really fast at all....... the early to mid 80's sport coupes and z28s had the LG4 305 v8 something like 145 hp, or the L69, which was the higher output version, little more power... i had one, and 86 z28, Lg4 equipped... it was not fast, the irocs from similar years werent much better. i had a good friend with an 86 iroc, 305 tpi... was not terribly fast either..... the 350 tpi 3rd gens (L98 i believe, was the desirable motor) were really the only quick ones, and they werent even particulary insane. just decently quick. but i mean i destroyed a late 80s iroc at a stoplight a few weeks back in my DSM...... dont get me wrong though. there's mods up the ASS for these cars, a modded one can hand you your ass,make no mistake but stock they arent anything exciting... and like i said in my previous post... the v6's werent too exciting either. the later model v6's (3.1) are probably similar to the early 305s as far as performance goes

y not 67

B/c there were little changes to the outside styling, like the front lower airdam etc. I just like the style of the 68-69 better than the 67.

Also YES a YENKO would be good too :biggrin: Forgot to add that to my list LOL

i just like the originals and i dont like the gills on the 69's 68's are good though


huh huh (ok imm gonna be the imature one now)

we said 69

Tran NSX it was probably a V-8, because at the spur up here in the appalachin Mts i can take V-8 camaro's and Mustangs all day. My car is a JDM right hand drive Integra XSi w/ a slightly machined B16A, but god-dang. plus a integra holds to the ground pretty good up until about 130-140 mph then your car will start to get the wobbles as in a camaro will get the wobbles around 110-120mph and so will a mustang.