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tjfree
11-05-2003, 09:59 AM
not sure why the other thread was closed. Moppie, SaabJohn has yet to make a point, and as for me selling this stuff...I wish, i have no connection except using the product.

I just found a good product that has made a difference for many people and wanted to share. If you don't agree then don't post.

Also, try something before you bash it so much, makes you sound stupid. I did not believe this product did what it said at first, but tried it because of Dyson's Analysis, and what do you know, I was proven wrong and you would be too.

Also, snake oils usually die out after the hype goes away, these products have been around for over 50 years, if they didn't work they would not still be here.

lwsurf84
11-09-2003, 03:03 PM
In regards to Lube Control and Fuel Power I have taken the advice of my good friend and tested both of the products in a motor vehicle. They have changed my thinking and doubt was quickly laid to rest and now I use Lube Control and Fuel Power in all of my motor vehicle including lawnmowers, motor bikes, and four wheelers. :iceslolan

Neutrino
11-09-2003, 07:23 PM
hmmm...lets see what would i bet that when a mod checks the ip adresses of both tjfree and lwsurf84 they will show the same

lwsurf84
11-09-2003, 11:59 PM
I am feeling a little hostility on your part Neutrino, No I do not know tjfree but I did add him to my buddy list. I found this web site through google and it is by far one of the best auto forms out there. And has helped me out tremendously and yes I confess I don’t know a lot about cars and trucks but with what I do know is that these two products work. How, well my explore use to knock now it doesn’t my F-250 diesel us to smoke now it doesn’t and my oil is almost as clean 7,000 miles later as when I put it in. If those aren’t signs that this stuff is working than please tell me what should I look for to make sure I am not getting ripped off.

Also has any one herd of auto-Rx ?
:smokin:

SaabJohan
11-10-2003, 12:52 PM
Isn't it funny that for some people even things that technically can't work will work....

Slick 50 has also been around for quite some time, even though it won't work and be a potential danger for the engine.

tjfree
11-10-2003, 11:46 PM
SaabJohan, now Slick50 was snake oil, totally different product and chemical makeup. Slick50 will do dmg to your engine. Lube Control is completely different....and it's proven. Why do you keep posting if you don't like or care about this product? couple good links for you to read....http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000960#000001,

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000764#000007

and there are many more examples....open your mind a little, there are products that work

ivymike1031
11-11-2003, 07:38 AM
ah yes, serpent oil, a completely different formulation...

tjfree
11-11-2003, 01:58 PM
ivymike, good one, if you don't want to open your mind and try a proven product then go to some other topic, don't post here.

I used to think the same way, but luckily decided to try per Terry Dyson's analysis. When an engine has carbon build up and is run with a quality oil and a synthetic and nothing works to clean it (although Saabjohan thinks the oils today have enough cleaners in them) and then lube control ad fuel power are used and the carbon is cleaned away.

Not sure what that means to you, but what it means to me is that IT WORKS!

ivymike1031
11-11-2003, 02:37 PM
hey tj - bite me. I'll post where I like, even in idiotic threads like this one, if I feel like it. Perhaps you should go post somewhere else if you don't like it. Maybe you'll have more luck at www.buymysnakeoil.com.

SaabJohan
11-11-2003, 03:01 PM
In modern oil the cleaning addetives works just fine, also if your engine happends to be dirty you should not add any extra cleaners since this might clog up the engine with lose dirt. The best lubrication is also reached when the addetives is kept to a minimum, for example racing oil contain no or very little cleaning addetives.

Furthermore, there aren't any hydrocarbons that can increase the energy content and/or density so much that the fuelconsumption will be noticed to be lower with only 1 oz. of addetive every 5 gallons of gas or diesel fuel added. Also remember that most car manufacturers spends a lot of money to decrease fuel consumption. For example BMW spent around $10 million for a 10% decrease... do you really think that they would spend that much if a simple $25 addetive would have been able to do the same improvement? The oilcompanies would gladly pay that if it worked... imagine how they could increase fuel prices with that.

tjfree
11-11-2003, 09:47 PM
ivymike, take it easy buddy...you must be 13 or 14 years old...get a life, this is just an automotive forum.

SaabJohn, I understand what your saying, but when it's proven to make difference in mileage your can't argue it, that is why it's called PROVEN.

If you believe todays modern oils cleaning additives are good enough for you that's perfectly fine. I sure don't, and after seeing what clean really is it blows me away that oil companies don't do something more.

Anyway, believe what y'all want, it works, I've seen it. When Durham Transportation (the largest school bus co) test it and shows 1.7 mpg increase and less problems I also believe them.

454Casull
11-11-2003, 10:21 PM
ivymike, take it easy buddy...you must be 13 or 14 years old...get a life, this is just an automotive forum.

SaabJohn, I understand what your saying, but when it's proven to make difference in mileage your can't argue it, that is why it's called PROVEN.

If you believe todays modern oils cleaning additives are good enough for you that's perfectly fine. I sure don't, and after seeing what clean really is it blows me away that oil companies don't do something more.

Anyway, believe what y'all want, it works, I've seen it. When Durham Transportation (the largest school bus co) test it and shows 1.7 mpg increase and less problems I also believe them.
Do you have any proof that WE can SEE? Any links? Scanned-in technical reports? Anything?

Keep in mind that I, and probably every other reader, will discount those ones that seem biased...

ivymike1031
11-11-2003, 11:12 PM
hey tjfree, like I said before, bite me. Crooks like you should be locked up. Seriously. There is very little difference between the way you're trying to rip people off and the way any other scam artist does it. Your scam just has a slightly higher percentage of people "getting away with it," since it's almost impossible to prove that your claims are completely false, and all you need is the possibility that you might be right to justify continually selling your garbage. Scams like yours don't stick around because the fake products work, they stick around because there are enough suckers willing to try them to keep the hucksters from switching scams. Almost 100% of fuel and/or oil additives these days have their most active ingredient in common - it's commonly known by the acronym B.S., and it's fairly easy to come by.

Here is some general info about these trendy scams, for anyone who is interested:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm

ivymike1031
11-11-2003, 11:22 PM
When Durham Transportation (the largest school bus co) test it and shows 1.7 mpg increase and less problems I also believe them.


oh yeah, and btw, Durham Transportation is not "the largest bus co" in the world, or even in the USA for that matter.

tjfree
11-12-2003, 01:34 PM
ivymike, I don't sell this stuff!!!! Wow your an idiot.

Durham is owned by National Express Group out of London, http://www.nationalexpressgroup.com/, and they are huge.

454Casull, www.lubecontrol.com and the links provided above have great info. Dyson Analysis did a report on LC/FP because of the results DARR Equipment Co had on their report of Fuel Power and did his own and it is posted on their website.

ivymike1031
11-12-2003, 04:00 PM
[QUOTE=tjfree]ivymike, I don't sell this stuff!!!! Wow your an idiot. [QUOTE]

Oh, wait, I misunderstood everything! You mean you're not trying to convince people to buy this crap?

For future reference, I believe you meant to use "you're," not "your" in your previous sentence. You'd sound a whole lot smarter if you knew the difference between the two. "You're" is contraction - it's a combination of "you" and "are." The apostrophe holds the place of the missing letters. "Your" is an adjective used to indicate possession. "You are an idiot."

tjfree
11-12-2003, 10:30 PM
ivymike, sorry, I forgot about checking my spelling for you. And, i repeat I ain't selling, just wanted to tell of a good product I found and have used. What is your problem? I think it's great to have a place where people can share ideas and products.

I'm not going to spell check this either as this just an auto forum not some english essay....get a life.

lwsurf84
11-13-2003, 01:29 AM
Wow I leave for a few days and everyone goes ballistic over two products what is the deal??? If you have proof that these products do or do not work than please by all means let everyone know what you think other wise your just talking out of you’re a**. And that is a waste of everyone’s time.

Thank tjfree never knew there was a website!!!
:smokin:

lwsurf84
11-13-2003, 01:36 AM
No one answered me on the auto-rx!!

FuelSaver
06-12-2004, 05:34 PM
...and my oil is almost as clean 7,000 miles later as when I put it in. If those aren’t signs that this stuff is working than please tell me what should I look for to make sure I am not getting ripped off.
:naughty: the oil is supposed to get dirty in a running engine. The minute carbon particles (resulting from the burning process) and the sludge are supposed to be kept "in suspension" in the oil by the additives (turning the oil color dark). If you get the oil clean it means the dirt deposits in your engine instead of being flushed with the oil. That's bad imo.

Fuel Saver
:2cents:

FuelSaver
06-12-2004, 05:39 PM
search this forum http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=5 for AutoRx

tjfree
06-22-2004, 04:51 PM
Fuel Saver,

That forum is were I found Lube Control and Fuel Power. LC and FP are great prodcuts as is Auto RX (used it many times in various cars).

However if I use LC on a consitant bases I should not need to use Auto RX.

Terry Dyson recommends all 3 products.

SaabJohan
06-23-2004, 11:12 AM
Do you guys know that high performance oils actually have less cleaning addetives in them! These packages are made and tested by people that have knowledge about oil instead for making silly claims in ads.

Furthermore, I still find it funny that anyone can claim that adding a small percentage of addetive in the fuel can decrease the fuel consumption by the numbers mentioned earlier when it's known that all hydrocarbons that have energy contents much higher than gasoline are gases!

There are no car manufacturer that recommend using any addetives, also, in all real tests I've seen the "snake" products have shown that they can't do what they say, and even sometimes they might damage your engine.

tjfree
06-23-2004, 12:03 PM
SaabJohn,

Why must you keep posting on this thread? If you don't like these products why bother?

Anyway, besides the testamonials from many people over at www.bobistheoilguy.com for LC and FP as well as Auto-RX I know these products work from my own experience.

It's funny that people who buy high performance oils also buy LC. Lube Control and Fuel Power work, it' been proven over and over.

I will agree with you that most additives (slick 50, prolong, gumout, ect.) are snake oil and will dmg your engine. They are completely different products than the ones mentioned above.

Also, car manufacturers do not recommend using additives because most of them suck and they make a broad statement to cover themselves.

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