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apintojr
12-10-2001, 01:08 PM
whats up, i'm looking for a certain body kit. if u go to g20.net under external mods for a p11 there is a autotech wagon body kit and a tire garden east d-face kit. i was wondering if anyone knows how to get those kits?
AznVirus
12-11-2001, 03:45 AM
talk to luke (G22DET), owner of Digital Racer, he can get it for you :D
atomic-G
12-11-2001, 11:38 AM
You touch that Garden East D-Face kit and I'm gonna kill ya!!!!!!!
wickedG20
12-11-2001, 03:38 PM
Well you better have a lot of money to spend for these body kits. But I am glad you brought something else up besides... TURBO. Someone has to get a full line body kit for the p11 already. Im surprised no one has tried the erebuni kit, probably the cheapest one around. I've heard rumors that its hard to fit on, but hey for the price its gotta be worth it! I hope to get the erebuni side skirts along with the rear bumper and mix it with my stillen front. I am gonna talk to them real soon
peace
peace
atomic-G
12-11-2001, 04:58 PM
Erebuni is cheap - good thing! I was looking into those side skirts as well.. they look nice. I am interested in the Garden Face Kit - but I have only seen the front end of the kit (more pix of it would be cool). I'm doing some performance mods now .. so maybe next year sometime I'll have a bodykit :) .. I'm not interested in turbo at the moment.
wickedG20
12-11-2001, 05:06 PM
here you go...
http://www.g20.net/images/mod_extern_p11_east03.jpg
http://www.g20.net/images/mod_extern_p11_east02.jpg
it is a beatiful kit. But for it's price, I can buy 5 body kits for a civic. Its just to expensive . :(
http://www.g20.net/images/mod_extern_p11_east03.jpg
http://www.g20.net/images/mod_extern_p11_east02.jpg
it is a beatiful kit. But for it's price, I can buy 5 body kits for a civic. Its just to expensive . :(
TRBOBRK
12-11-2001, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by wickedG20
But for it's price, I can buy 5 body kits for a civic. Its just to expensive . :(
And five body kits later...it is still a civic. G20s are better than that and I would spend more on it because of that. But for $3000 I would make it myself, out of carbon fiber.
But for it's price, I can buy 5 body kits for a civic. Its just to expensive . :(
And five body kits later...it is still a civic. G20s are better than that and I would spend more on it because of that. But for $3000 I would make it myself, out of carbon fiber.
atomic-G
12-11-2001, 07:29 PM
Thanks for the pictures Wicked - definitely a beauty!
So the price for it is exactly $3,000? - I don't want to email Luke and bother him (I do that too often :).. )
So the price for it is exactly $3,000? - I don't want to email Luke and bother him (I do that too often :).. )
wickedG20
12-11-2001, 08:54 PM
yeah, no problem. The kit is around $2,500. But then to ship it here is another $400. Than it has to go through customs and they charge around $500 or so. So your looking at a total of $3400 or so. Then you have to get it painted and fit on. Paint & installation is another $400 Im estimating. It takes 3.8-4 grand to actually get this thing on your vehicle. Price is not even in my ballpark, that is why I'm going with Erebuni!
apintojr
12-11-2001, 08:56 PM
for anyone looking in to the erbani kit dont waste your time. it doesnt look that great, well at least in my opinion. it doesnt fit well with the car, buy those kits on g20.net are def. H0t!. i'm trying to find those quad lights for the front. does anyone know how to get the?
wickedG20
12-11-2001, 09:01 PM
I must agree with you, those kits are hella hot. It would take a very long time to save up for something like this, (At least in my case.) But if you've got the money, what the hell, money comes money goes!
FlossinPrimera
12-11-2001, 09:18 PM
The Erebuni P11 kit is a copy of the Altia kit from Japan.
FlossinPrimera
12-11-2001, 09:24 PM
Here is a picture of it from the Hyper Rev, sorry, I don't have a scanner so I was taking a picture of it with my digital camera.
atomic-G
12-11-2001, 10:20 PM
$3500-$4000 .. eek :).
Ya, customs is a bitch .. I wonder how much they will charge me when my Tien's come in - it will be a heavy package :/
I guess I'll just wait till I win the lotto :) (this friday, 19 million) - if I do, bodykits for everyone courtesy of me! :D
Ya, customs is a bitch .. I wonder how much they will charge me when my Tien's come in - it will be a heavy package :/
I guess I'll just wait till I win the lotto :) (this friday, 19 million) - if I do, bodykits for everyone courtesy of me! :D
wickedG20
12-11-2001, 10:27 PM
Flossin,
I finally figured out where Erebuni copied that kit from, Thanks. Erebuni copies everything they make including wings. Do you have any other pics of that kit? (maybe the whole car, I am don't like the ones erebuni made)
Atomic, that will be the day. hehe :D
damn, I wish someone would just produce a body kit for the p11 that is reasonable in price (im talking 650, 700...)
look at this veilside kit for the celica. celica owners are so lucky, this kit is only $650 on eBay
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/684e37e3ea85c7907814b44a34/i-2.JPG
I finally figured out where Erebuni copied that kit from, Thanks. Erebuni copies everything they make including wings. Do you have any other pics of that kit? (maybe the whole car, I am don't like the ones erebuni made)
Atomic, that will be the day. hehe :D
damn, I wish someone would just produce a body kit for the p11 that is reasonable in price (im talking 650, 700...)
look at this veilside kit for the celica. celica owners are so lucky, this kit is only $650 on eBay
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/684e37e3ea85c7907814b44a34/i-2.JPG
wickedG20
12-11-2001, 10:33 PM
Flossin,
I finally figured out where Erebuni copied that kit from, Thanks. Erebuni copies everything they make including wings. Do you have any other pics of that kit? (maybe the whole car, I am don't like the ones erebuni made)
Atomic, that will be the day. hehe :D
damn, I wish someone would just produce a body kit for the p11 that is reasonable in price (im talking 650, 700...)
look at this veilside kit for the celica. celica owners are so lucky, this kit is only $650 on eBay
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/684e37e3ea85c7907814b44a34/i-2.JPG
I finally figured out where Erebuni copied that kit from, Thanks. Erebuni copies everything they make including wings. Do you have any other pics of that kit? (maybe the whole car, I am don't like the ones erebuni made)
Atomic, that will be the day. hehe :D
damn, I wish someone would just produce a body kit for the p11 that is reasonable in price (im talking 650, 700...)
look at this veilside kit for the celica. celica owners are so lucky, this kit is only $650 on eBay
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/684e37e3ea85c7907814b44a34/i-2.JPG
atomic-G
12-11-2001, 10:39 PM
I know a couple buddies that have a shop here that make custom kits .. I'm gonna drop in there one of these days and see if they can muster something up for cheap :). I'll let everyone know when that happens.
Aggressive looking kit for the Celica.. it's definitely a nice looking car.
Aggressive looking kit for the Celica.. it's definitely a nice looking car.
primera_gte
12-12-2001, 11:10 PM
someone should get a shop to make a knock off of either the impul or d-face garden kit. they could make a reasonable amount of money
what do you guys think?
what do you guys think?
wickedG20
12-12-2001, 11:29 PM
Sounds good, but custom made body kits are usually more expensive. Anyways, since I am done with all my college apps, sats, etc. I have a lot of free time on my hands. I will check out some shops and let you guys know some prices. I will print out some body kits and show them. Then if he is willing to do it, we can definately get a good price on a couple or so
AznVirus
12-13-2001, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by wickedG20
Flossin,
I finally figured out where Erebuni copied that kit from, Thanks. Erebuni copies everything they make including wings. Do you have any other pics of that kit? (maybe the whole car, I am don't like the ones erebuni made)
Atomic, that will be the day. hehe :D
damn, I wish someone would just produce a body kit for the p11 that is reasonable in price (im talking 650, 700...)
look at this veilside kit for the celica. celica owners are so lucky, this kit is only $650 on eBay
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/684e37e3ea85c7907814b44a34/i-2.JPG
vielside? thats the action package for the Celica, you can get it straight from the dealer, erebuni copied that one, erebuni copies all kits and most of all, they dont fit right most of the time. oh ya, if youve read up on the other threads, its very simple to modify a 90-93 accord front bumper and side skirts to fit a P10 :D http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t11369.html
Flossin,
I finally figured out where Erebuni copied that kit from, Thanks. Erebuni copies everything they make including wings. Do you have any other pics of that kit? (maybe the whole car, I am don't like the ones erebuni made)
Atomic, that will be the day. hehe :D
damn, I wish someone would just produce a body kit for the p11 that is reasonable in price (im talking 650, 700...)
look at this veilside kit for the celica. celica owners are so lucky, this kit is only $650 on eBay
http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/684e37e3ea85c7907814b44a34/i-2.JPG
vielside? thats the action package for the Celica, you can get it straight from the dealer, erebuni copied that one, erebuni copies all kits and most of all, they dont fit right most of the time. oh ya, if youve read up on the other threads, its very simple to modify a 90-93 accord front bumper and side skirts to fit a P10 :D http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t11369.html
Nismoboy1
12-13-2001, 11:01 AM
the erebuni p11 kits look pretty good, henry perez has it on his car.
wickedG20
12-13-2001, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Nismoboy1
the erebuni p11 kits look pretty good, henry perez has it on his car.
He only has the front bumper from the kit.
the erebuni p11 kits look pretty good, henry perez has it on his car.
He only has the front bumper from the kit.
Mrcoilover
12-13-2001, 03:38 PM
The only thing good from the erebuni kit is the sideskirts and rear 1/4. The front seems like it doesn't need to be on a G20.
atomic-G
12-13-2001, 03:44 PM
I like the Erebuni kit .. and I do agree with you MrCoilover .. the side skirts & rear are very nice.
Speaking of which, does anyone have a price tag for the 2 piece side skirts .. I don't feel like calling them :)
Speaking of which, does anyone have a price tag for the 2 piece side skirts .. I don't feel like calling them :)
wickedG20
12-13-2001, 07:19 PM
I am estimating around $600 for both the side skirts and rear bumper. I will give them a call tommorow and get a quote.
atomic-G
12-15-2001, 12:31 PM
Did ya get that estimate, Wicked?
:)
:)
wickedG20
12-15-2001, 03:25 PM
no, they never pick up the phone line so I can never get a real estimate. I'am trying to find out if they have a different phone number I can reach them at besides their headquarters.
zykotik
12-15-2001, 06:52 PM
If you Email them they reply quite rapidly ;)
G22DET
12-16-2001, 12:20 AM
the rear apron from erebuni doesnt fit our car. i bought it before and i end up tossing it. it's too short and not worth the time and money to make it fit perfectly smooth
atomic-G
12-16-2001, 12:27 AM
It's funny that you mention that. Today myself and my friend, who use to own a Ford Probe, were talking and he mentioned that I shouldn't buy anything from Erebuni, because people he knew who bought the Shogun kit for their Probes from them had problems with the fitting of the product.
Why the heck then does Erebuni sell these products if they don't fit?
Good thing you let us all know .. saved me some time, money and anger :). Hopefully the side skirts would fit - any info on those?
Why the heck then does Erebuni sell these products if they don't fit?
Good thing you let us all know .. saved me some time, money and anger :). Hopefully the side skirts would fit - any info on those?
G22DET
12-16-2001, 12:29 AM
if the front bumper doesnt fit (henry told me) and the rear apron doesnt fit...why take a chance on the side skirt???
wickedG20
12-16-2001, 01:43 AM
luke that picture is what I needed to prove to MYSELF that it doesn't fit. :hehe:
about the erebuni front bumper, I'm guessing maybe its fit for a Primera? They do picture the kit on a primera, not the g20. What a strange company, they charge you $15 for just one of their catalogs. anyways, Henry had to do some mods to get it to fit, but he was able to do it.
http://www.innernot.com/1phatg/images/dec99%20front%20passenger.jpg (pic before car was turned into a BTCC look car)
about the erebuni front bumper, I'm guessing maybe its fit for a Primera? They do picture the kit on a primera, not the g20. What a strange company, they charge you $15 for just one of their catalogs. anyways, Henry had to do some mods to get it to fit, but he was able to do it.
http://www.innernot.com/1phatg/images/dec99%20front%20passenger.jpg (pic before car was turned into a BTCC look car)
apintojr
12-16-2001, 02:14 AM
the stock g20 bumper looks better. the kits on g20.net are the way to go.
wickedG20
12-16-2001, 02:32 AM
well I just found out that Erebuni states on their receipts/catalogs/ads that some kits require mild or heavy modification it states that some kits require mild to heavy modification to fit properly. erebuni is full of b/s :flipa:
atomic-G
12-16-2001, 12:23 PM
That sucks .. oh well :)
:flipa: EREBUNI :flipa:
:flipa: EREBUNI :flipa:
wickedG20
12-16-2001, 12:35 PM
Might sound crazy, but maybe they fixed up the flaw in the kit and have reproduced it. That picture of luke's was taken about 2.5 years ago. I couldn't resist so I e-mailed them and hope to get a response.
atomic-G
12-16-2001, 02:33 PM
Good man wicked :smoker:
Is it just me or is the Erebuni side skirts the same as the Impul and D-Garden East Face Kit?
Is it just me or is the Erebuni side skirts the same as the Impul and D-Garden East Face Kit?
wickedG20
12-17-2001, 12:40 AM
its not just you hehe, Erebuni practically copies every kit they make from some other one.
Hey but if the side skirts will fit, do you want to order a set. I will get one as well and maybe we can get a deal.
Hey but if the side skirts will fit, do you want to order a set. I will get one as well and maybe we can get a deal.
G22DET
12-17-2001, 01:48 AM
erebuni actually copied the Altia kit from Japan..it's available through Japnese Nissan dealers as an upgrade for the P11.
atomic-G
12-17-2001, 11:42 AM
Yes I would be interested ;)
wickedG20
12-17-2001, 11:33 PM
I found another company that carries the kit. The picture is from erebuni's site. There site is http://www.paautoracing.com, I haven't gotten a response from erebuni yet but I e-mailed PA Auto Racing and hope to get a response from them.
btw atomicfrog, I picked up a pair of the clear side markers which have the 4 slots in them. The factory ones have 3. Exactly where did you drill to make the clear side markers fit the stock ballast? a picture would be great if you have one of the finished side marker with the twist lock that will fit the stock ballast.
peace
btw atomicfrog, I picked up a pair of the clear side markers which have the 4 slots in them. The factory ones have 3. Exactly where did you drill to make the clear side markers fit the stock ballast? a picture would be great if you have one of the finished side marker with the twist lock that will fit the stock ballast.
peace
Neil82
12-18-2001, 10:33 AM
Does anyone have any news on Henry Prerez?
p_r_i_m_e_r_a
12-18-2001, 08:08 PM
Erebuni does lick a fat one.
Local shops refuse to carry Erebuni kits
because it is a proven fact they dont fit.
In fact i've had local shop owners tell me
they called Erebuni about kits not fitting
correctly, and were harassed by their
crappy customer service.
This shot out goes to the big E
:flipa: :finger: :flipa: :finger:
Local shops refuse to carry Erebuni kits
because it is a proven fact they dont fit.
In fact i've had local shop owners tell me
they called Erebuni about kits not fitting
correctly, and were harassed by their
crappy customer service.
This shot out goes to the big E
:flipa: :finger: :flipa: :finger:
Yahnozha
12-18-2001, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by wickedG20
btw atomicfrog, I picked up a pair of the clear side markers which have the 4 slots in them. The factory ones have 3. Exactly where did you drill to make the clear side markers fit the stock ballast? a picture would be great if you have one of the finished side marker with the twist lock that will fit the stock ballast.
Sorry Im not Atomic, but I did a how-to for the 99 owners that are getting the clear side lenses, check it out...its in the FAQ
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t14360.html
btw atomicfrog, I picked up a pair of the clear side markers which have the 4 slots in them. The factory ones have 3. Exactly where did you drill to make the clear side markers fit the stock ballast? a picture would be great if you have one of the finished side marker with the twist lock that will fit the stock ballast.
Sorry Im not Atomic, but I did a how-to for the 99 owners that are getting the clear side lenses, check it out...its in the FAQ
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t14360.html
wickedG20
12-18-2001, 10:22 PM
Thanks but I managed to do it today. I shaved off one of the clips from the new side marker lights and then shaved of a piece from the stock ballast. worked perfectly. Will take pictures of the results soon. I did not use the stock 2002 clear side markers. I bought some JDM smoked side markers.
peace
peace
atomic-G
12-19-2001, 12:23 PM
I wish I had a digital cam to take progress pictures, but don't have one yet.
Basically what I did was I took both the side markers, new and old and I compared the twist lock patterns side by side. After examining both the twist locks, I then used a marker to mark where I will drill. On the 4 twist lock pattern, you will basically just DRILL and expand 3 of the twist locks so that they will allow the other twist locks on the 3 bulb pattern to fit. It might take you a couple tries to get a perfect fit, just keep drilling and once it fits, you will know ..because it goes in perfectly and is nice n snug.
Basically what I did was I took both the side markers, new and old and I compared the twist lock patterns side by side. After examining both the twist locks, I then used a marker to mark where I will drill. On the 4 twist lock pattern, you will basically just DRILL and expand 3 of the twist locks so that they will allow the other twist locks on the 3 bulb pattern to fit. It might take you a couple tries to get a perfect fit, just keep drilling and once it fits, you will know ..because it goes in perfectly and is nice n snug.
wickedG20
12-19-2001, 01:22 PM
Hey,
I just received in e-mail back from PA Auto-racing after he talked with Erebuni. Here it is:
Hello,
They said the rear quarter skirts need to be modified on US bumpers. That would explain that. However, the SIDE SKIRTS and FRONT WILL fit without modification. Did you want a price check on just the Side Skirts? If so, it is $370 for the side skirts and they are in stock. Let me know if you need anything else, and remember shipping is free in the US (48 states)
Thank you,
Dave
I can get that price down, maybe $250. Would you be interested?
I just received in e-mail back from PA Auto-racing after he talked with Erebuni. Here it is:
Hello,
They said the rear quarter skirts need to be modified on US bumpers. That would explain that. However, the SIDE SKIRTS and FRONT WILL fit without modification. Did you want a price check on just the Side Skirts? If so, it is $370 for the side skirts and they are in stock. Let me know if you need anything else, and remember shipping is free in the US (48 states)
Thank you,
Dave
I can get that price down, maybe $250. Would you be interested?
Mrcoilover
12-19-2001, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by wickedG20
There site is http://www.paautoracing.com,
Someting wrong with that web address...
There site is http://www.paautoracing.com,
Someting wrong with that web address...
GtRider
12-19-2001, 01:51 PM
any p10 side skirts for sale?
wickedG20
12-19-2001, 05:33 PM
sorry only for the p11 :(
Ok atomicfrog,
He has given me a price of $700 for 2 side skirts and a Guarantee that they will fit and a full refund if not.
Let me check some other places first, I know erebuni's price is $380. I will see what I can get.
Ok atomicfrog,
He has given me a price of $700 for 2 side skirts and a Guarantee that they will fit and a full refund if not.
Let me check some other places first, I know erebuni's price is $380. I will see what I can get.
Yahnozha
12-19-2001, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by wickedG20
I can get that price down, maybe $250. Would you be interested?
Wicked, I might be interested, could you post a photo of sorts...
Thanks,
I can get that price down, maybe $250. Would you be interested?
Wicked, I might be interested, could you post a photo of sorts...
Thanks,
atomic-G
12-19-2001, 08:48 PM
See how low you can get the price :) - I'm definitely interested.
wickedG20
12-19-2001, 10:35 PM
I'am trying the best I can, will find out final price tommorow.
Here is a picture of the side skirts:
http://www.groundeffects.com/images/autos2/g20675f.jpg
Here is a picture of the side skirts:
http://www.groundeffects.com/images/autos2/g20675f.jpg
G22DET
12-20-2001, 01:37 AM
i've talked to WickedG20 a million times and he still won't listen...
the erebuni front kit will NOT fit without modification!!! i used to email Henry everyday when he first got his kit and he spend some time at the bodyshop making the front kit fit perfectly. the picture i posted shows that the rear kit dont fit as well (pic. worth a thousand words..why not believe them but believe some shop we never heard of...??)
so in conclusion, if local NY shops says it wont fit, the front bumper wont fit correctly, the rear wont fit...WHY EVEN BOTHER BUYING THE SIDE SKIRT!!?!?!??!?!?! :confused: :confused: :confused:
the erebuni front kit will NOT fit without modification!!! i used to email Henry everyday when he first got his kit and he spend some time at the bodyshop making the front kit fit perfectly. the picture i posted shows that the rear kit dont fit as well (pic. worth a thousand words..why not believe them but believe some shop we never heard of...??)
so in conclusion, if local NY shops says it wont fit, the front bumper wont fit correctly, the rear wont fit...WHY EVEN BOTHER BUYING THE SIDE SKIRT!!?!?!??!?!?! :confused: :confused: :confused:
b-b00gie
12-20-2001, 05:18 AM
I had purchased the Erebuni kit once... there rears didnt quite fit, the side skirts werent even both the same size (one was about 1/2" longer). The front definately will NOT fit with out mods.
I've been to Erebuni many times, I can tell you how they work. They copy Japanese kits and do a poor job of it. That is why they dont fit easily, and also when they copy them they do such a poor job that they are never symmetrical.
I think Henry said it best at NOPI one year when the Erebuni owner saw his car....
Erebuni: "Nice car, thats my bumper... You could've put an Erebuni sticker on your car to show us support"
Henry: "Haha... there was so much cutting, re-fiberglassing, and other surgery that I concider this a custom kit. I'd never put an Erebuni sticker on my car even if you paid me"
A very reputable body shop here also put up a sign in their office which reads: "We install all types of body kits, EXCEPT Erebuni". I should get a pic one day :D
I've been to Erebuni many times, I can tell you how they work. They copy Japanese kits and do a poor job of it. That is why they dont fit easily, and also when they copy them they do such a poor job that they are never symmetrical.
I think Henry said it best at NOPI one year when the Erebuni owner saw his car....
Erebuni: "Nice car, thats my bumper... You could've put an Erebuni sticker on your car to show us support"
Henry: "Haha... there was so much cutting, re-fiberglassing, and other surgery that I concider this a custom kit. I'd never put an Erebuni sticker on my car even if you paid me"
A very reputable body shop here also put up a sign in their office which reads: "We install all types of body kits, EXCEPT Erebuni". I should get a pic one day :D
atomic-G
12-20-2001, 11:28 AM
Hmmmmm :).
I guess we should forget it Wicked. Will the IMPUL fit? :D
I guess we should forget it Wicked. Will the IMPUL fit? :D
AznVirus
12-20-2001, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by atomicfrog
Hmmmmm :).
I guess we should forget it Wicked. Will the IMPUL fit? :D
sides and rear should fit, but the front will have to extend it, japanese P11s dont have a front support bar.
Hmmmmm :).
I guess we should forget it Wicked. Will the IMPUL fit? :D
sides and rear should fit, but the front will have to extend it, japanese P11s dont have a front support bar.
wickedG20
12-20-2001, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by atomicfrog
Hmmmmm :).
I guess we should forget it Wicked. Will the IMPUL fit? :D
If you want to, but the guy guaranteed a fit without modification or your money back + the shipping charge it takes you to ship it back to him.
Alright If you want to :(
BUT ONE ANOTHER THING for everyone, there is no way you can guarantee that the impul or d-face kit will fit perfectly as NO ONE has ever tried it here on the G20. I hear that you have to take the reinforcement bar off, which protects you if you shall ever get into an accident. :uhoh:
Hmmmmm :).
I guess we should forget it Wicked. Will the IMPUL fit? :D
If you want to, but the guy guaranteed a fit without modification or your money back + the shipping charge it takes you to ship it back to him.
Alright If you want to :(
BUT ONE ANOTHER THING for everyone, there is no way you can guarantee that the impul or d-face kit will fit perfectly as NO ONE has ever tried it here on the G20. I hear that you have to take the reinforcement bar off, which protects you if you shall ever get into an accident. :uhoh:
b-b00gie
12-20-2001, 02:51 PM
Removing a bar is not the same thing as having to chop up a kit and rebuild it to make it fit
G22DET
12-20-2001, 11:15 PM
have to remove the rear reinforcement bar as well...japanese cars dont have front reinforcement bar, rear bar and side protection beam. but that doesnt mean cars in japan (and in europe) arent safe...they just dont have stupid 2ton trucks and suvs running around.
anyway..umm..dont know why there are still people defending erebuni..maybe wickedg20 works for them or soemthing...hehe..who cares if the shop will guarantee the fitement...you're gonna return it anyways, so why bother buying it int he first place???
anyway..umm..dont know why there are still people defending erebuni..maybe wickedg20 works for them or soemthing...hehe..who cares if the shop will guarantee the fitement...you're gonna return it anyways, so why bother buying it int he first place???
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