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stlcardinalsfan
10-28-2003, 11:27 PM
Does anybody know why ricers are so popular? All they do is eat up our economy and take our jobs. They even sound like shit with there trashcan mufflers that make them sound like pissed off bumble bees. And ive got one last question. If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?

Misundaztood
10-29-2003, 12:27 AM
How do they eat up our economy & take our jobs?

Anyways, the movies had alot to do with it.

BlkCamaroSS
10-29-2003, 01:01 AM
Do you realize that most of those "riceburner" are built here in the continental United States, meaning Americans are populating the workforce of those factories? My car was built in Quebec, so I'm an import enthusiast :sunglasse

Misundaztood
10-29-2003, 01:55 AM
My car was built in Ill. so I guess I'm helping the economy.

BigJustinZ28
10-29-2003, 02:00 PM
Does anybody know why ricers are so popular? All they do is eat up our economy and take our jobs. They even sound like shit with there trashcan mufflers that make them sound like pissed off bumble bees. And ive got one last question. If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?
tests are testicle , uhuhuhuuUhUhUHuHuHUh I said .......

Hypsi87
10-29-2003, 07:17 PM
Don't get me wrong, I hate imports, but seeing that your talking aobut the ecnomy im assuming that you are talking about new cars. Alot of people that try to make imports so fast are kids. 16-20 years old give or take a few years. As far as the new car market what does a doomestic producer have to offer in an affordable high performance sports car??? Absoultly nothing. As you all know chevy droped the Camaro and TA. Ford offers the Mustang still but the GT and up are so damn expesive. Donge offers the turbo neon. Thats about it :disappoin . My sisters boyfriend is an import lover and untill I gave him a ride in my car the fastest car that he had ever been in was a lightly modded cavilar, and untill he rode in my car he swore that the cavilar would eat me alive :disappoin . Alot of them don't know what fast is. This is just what I see going on with the imports


Later
Andy

BadAzz240
10-29-2003, 07:41 PM
I think its a cheap thrill more than anything. Like someone said above they are teenagers that dont have any money. I have a nissan that is my daily driver and it is nothing compared to driving my T/A. But these guys that dont have any money they buy a crx for 1000 bucks and cut the exhaust off and call it fast. Though it is anything but...fast. Some consider imports the "Muscle Car" of today. Well, there is hardly any muscle at all there, but the guys that can make a Honda run 12's, 11's, or 10's those are the guys I have respect for. Cuz that takes a lot of time and money. A few of my friends are import enthusiasts like my friends WRX runs a low 13, that is cool..... What I still dont understand is these guys talk so much trash about us muscle guys and yet there cars are 2-5 seconds slower in the 1/4. I dont get it, and I never will. Sometimes I just think its cuz they are trying to be gay. But they may also be jealous and crying out for attention. Well, I just said a whole lot of nothing so I am going to stop now...

boosting20psi
10-29-2003, 08:24 PM
i love mussel cars more then any thing, 67'-69' camaro best car to ever hit the road why becuse they are fast still they still rule the road stock. but hear me out. i can not aford a cammro so i bought a rice rocket for ceep thrills and i was sad to find out that my 90' eclipse gsx could bet all of the new camaro's ecept the ss and i can smoke the mustang gt that evon the 03 one so i think that thy dont make mussel like they use to thats why all of the young folk are going with rice but i think if it not turboed or super charged than it more than likely not going to be very fast, but htats just my opion so they need to come out with a new camaro that will smoke every car on the road :evillol: will take care and drive fast

big_sam_2004
10-29-2003, 09:46 PM
ummmmm, spell check please?

hiphophomer
10-29-2003, 10:03 PM
i love mussel cars more then any thing, 67'-69' camaro best car to ever hit the road why becuse they are fast still they still rule the road stock. but hear me out. i can not aford a cammro so i bought a rice rocket for ceep thrills and i was sad to find out that my 90' eclipse gsx could bet all of the new camaro's ecept the ss and i can smoke the mustang gt that evon the 03 one so i think that thy dont make mussel like they use to thats why all of the young folk are going with rice but i think if it not turboed or super charged than it more than likely not going to be very fast, but htats just my opion so they need to come out with a new camaro that will smoke every car on the road :evillol: will take care and drive fast
you sure did smoke every camaro...HAHAHAH YOU WISH GO TRY TO FUCK WITH A LPE CAMARO GO JUST TRY!
p.s.i doubt you can beat a z28 with your riced up shit box, there was probably a v6 one with a z28 sticker :iceslolan :iceslolan :iceslolan

Hypsi87
10-30-2003, 12:09 AM
I also have a real hard time beleving that you can smoke an 03 cobra. I run 12.6 in street mode and 11.81 with slicks and race gas and I sometimes have a hard time shakin them loose. At least the ones around here. A person know has bought a pully and a chip and he dynod like 415 HP at the wheels :smokin: . not bad


P.S. what is a LPE camaro??? is this a speical camaro or is this one avaible to all the public at a halfway affordable price I've never herd of it.

BlkCamaroSS
10-30-2003, 12:38 AM
I believe he's refering to a Lingenfelter Performance-tuned Camaro.

As for the remarks of Mr. Boosted, how can you beat 03 Cobras, and not beat an SS Camaro? I can't beat an 03 Cobra and I drive an SS. I beat them off the line, and then they haul ass right past me. You sir, are lying...

GTStang
10-30-2003, 01:11 AM
Yea my stock GSX can kill stock Stangs and Camaro's all it took was me going from 12pis of boost to 22psi with a bigger turbo, intercooler, exhuast, fuel system, dyno-tune. But you can't S/C your V-8 that's cheating!!!!

Hypsi87
10-30-2003, 01:20 AM
OK a Lingenfelter is not a stock camaro. thats alot of money for that ammount of money anyone who knew what they where going could build a car that could slaughter a Lingenfelter camaro. Lingenfelter is way over priced for the performance. Lets try to keep our comparsions realistic.

P.S. For that much money I could build a Stage III buick 4.4 litre v-6 that would make even that Lingenfelter twin turbo vette look stupid.

BullShifter
10-30-2003, 01:54 AM
As far as the new car market what does a doomestic producer have to offer in an affordable high performance sports car??? Absoultly nothing. As you all know chevy droped the Camaro and TA.

The Pontiac GTO is coming! I still think GM should produce the AWD LS1 V8 Grand Prix. Is there any cheap "true" sports car? NO! I don't have a problem with any type of car, its usually the people driving them. Ricer's are the worst & there is a difference between rice car drivers & a true car person. Most cases the slow looking imports are fast & the fast looking are stock, slow, loud. I don't think I've heard too many 4-bangers that sound good, shit my CBR900RR sounded better than most 4-bangers, including my civic. Nothin' beats the sound of a high compression/big cam V8. I've heard ricers say they sound like shit :iceslolan hhhhmmmmm. since when?

BigJustinZ28
10-30-2003, 02:49 PM
hehe most ricers dont bother me 'cept the ones with bad attitudes. Some of them think there crx is the fastest thing on earth. I show them guys what fast is like hehe :). Although I gotta admit I got a lil more respect for them now. Theres a guy around here who has a civic with over 10,000 dollars in mods turbos and everything . Fastest import in town. He raced a friend of mine with a 98 trans am 6sp , pretty much stock cept slp loudmouth and 4.10 gears. My friends 98 won , but he couldnt leave the civic in the dust.He not the fastest in our group however , although he did beat me by like half a car length (the trans am) LS1's arent something to be played with . Im gonna run the t/a again once I get my damn exhaust leak fixed (2 broke off bolts in heads egad!!! and I might have a clogged cat. Slowly bringing my car up to 100%. Thing is tho with 10k worth of mods a v8 trans am can probably run 10's !!!

Hypsi87
10-30-2003, 06:38 PM
10 K!!!!! wow lotsa money and he could not beat a lightly modded T/A :cwm27: What a waste of money. wow

boosting20psi
10-30-2003, 11:01 PM
hey why dont you all learn to read i never said i could beat a ss or a cobra but i can smoke a z-28 and gt mustang and that is a fact so stop being gay just becuse your car will lost to a pice of shit ricer
this is what i said so stop puting words in my mouth
"bet all of the new camaro's ecept the ss and i can smoke the mustang gt evon the 03" so stop saying i said i could beat a cobro becuse i know i cant. i know i can beat a z-28, my good friend drives one and he not evon close to me in a race. why cant we all get along anyway i like muscle car more than any rice rocket so let all just be happy :evillol:

Hypsi87
10-31-2003, 02:06 AM
My car does not lose to a piece of shit ricer...The 2 times i have been beaten my a rice car they where firs gen AWD DSM's and they had everything done to them including slicks on all four tires. But they were not street cars. Sorry for assuming that you ment a 03 cobra. usually when someone says 03 they mean a cobra since no body really cares about an 03 GT since they are the same damn thing as the last year.

khris barger
10-31-2003, 02:27 PM
Domestics rule the road and they will always. That is true what badazz 240 posted. I hade an 86 300zx N/A and i thought it was FAST
:screwy: and I realized it wasnt when i raced a 89 stock 5.0 mustang and he justed killed me and then he took me for a ride then I realized that it my car was not fast at all. Thank god I came over to the good side I bought a S-10 4 door blazer and droped a 350 in it and it was all right then I bought a 98 Trans Am and after ride around in a frinds 99 modifed 99 mustang when I bought the T/A I Know I need to do some work to keep up and the ricers dont realize that.

MistaZ
11-01-2003, 12:23 AM
Boosting20psi sounds like an illiterate 10 year old to me! :loser: Also, a z28 and an ss arent that much different. What a liar and a loser. Why dont you briing your little POS to my little Z28 and then see what happens!! I am sorry guys I just couldnt help this one. :nono:

CEEJ
11-01-2003, 12:40 AM
OK here is a thought for u. RSX Type S runs on aver a 14.9 on a 4 cylinder for 22 thousand dollar. Oh yeah and it can actually take a curve. Then u pay almost 30 thousand for a new mustang GT and it only runs a 14.5 of a V8 and it can't take a curve for anything. At that the RSX will last for like 400 thousand miles with minor trouble. The mustang would be lucky to see 300 and during that period would have a bunch of major problems. The new Evo with the AEM mod chip which cost like 300 after instal runs even with a ZO6 corvette in the 1/4. When there is real muscle car on the market again then they will get respect until then the rice burner have the market and for good reason.

pre
11-01-2003, 01:08 AM
OK here is a thought for u. RSX Type S runs on aver a 14.9 on a 4 cylinder for 22 thousand dollar. Oh yeah and it can actually take a curve. Then u pay almost 30 thousand for a new mustang GT and it only runs a 14.5 of a V8 and it can't take a curve for anything. At that the RSX will last for like 400 thousand miles with minor trouble. The mustang would be lucky to see 300 and during that period would have a bunch of major problems. The new Evo with the AEM mod chip which cost like 300 after instal runs even with a ZO6 corvette in the 1/4. When there is real muscle car on the market again then they will get respect until then the rice burner have the market and for good reason.
03 Fords
Mustang GT=$25,000
Mach 1=$31,000
Cobra=$35,000
02 GM
Camaro SS and Trans Am WS6=$32,000

These are real muscle cars and a Evo with a chip catching a Z06 SURE

Exhaust, Cold Air Intakes and Chips add 100hp, but not as much as those stickers

Don't bet me wrong I like Evolution and STI but I would rather have a Trans Am

BlkCamaroSS
11-01-2003, 06:01 PM
Boosting20psi sounds like an illiterate 10 year old to me! :loser: Also, a z28 and an ss arent that much different. What a liar and a loser. Why dont you briing your little POS to my little Z28 and then see what happens!! I am sorry guys I just couldnt help this one. :nono:

Thank you. I was just waiting for someone to post this so that I knew that I wasn't the only one that realized it. There's no reason that if you can "kill" a stock Z28 you can't "kill" a stock SS...

GTStang
11-02-2003, 03:20 AM
OK here is a thought for u. RSX Type S runs on aver a 14.9 on a 4 cylinder for 22 thousand dollar. Oh yeah and it can actually take a curve. Then u pay almost 30 thousand for a new mustang GT and it only runs a 14.5 of a V8 and it can't take a curve for anything. At that the RSX will last for like 400 thousand miles with minor trouble. The mustang would be lucky to see 300 and during that period would have a bunch of major problems. The new Evo with the AEM mod chip which cost like 300 after instal runs even with a ZO6 corvette in the 1/4. When there is real muscle car on the market again then they will get respect until then the rice burner have the market and for good reason.

A new GT at $30,000.... please.... $25,000

Second 14.5.... maybe with a Vert. Try more like flat 14's

Yes we'll see how many 400,000 mile RSX there are without any major trouble. You fucking import owners actually belive you own BS?

Even if an Evo with a mod-chip could run a 1/4 mile with a Z06 it wouldn't touch it in a corner. Which you said is important to you.

Rice Burners have a market cause they are youngs kids who want to be cool and have fast cars but they can't afford Mustang, Camaros, Vettes. So they buy CHEAPER import cars and they try to make them as fast. You all have really sad inferiorty complexes, you are all just wanna-be muscle car owners who can't afford it.

BigJustinZ28
11-02-2003, 01:43 PM
A new GT at $30,000.... please.... $25,000

Second 14.5.... maybe with a Vert. Try more like flat 14's

Yes we'll see how many 400,000 mile RSX there are without any major trouble. You fucking import owners actually belive you own BS?

Even if an Evo with a mod-chip could run a 1/4 mile with a Z06 it wouldn't touch it in a corner. Which you said is important to you.

Rice Burners have a market cause they are youngs kids who want to be cool and have fast cars but they can't afford Mustang, Camaros, Vettes. So they buy CHEAPER import cars and they try to make them as fast. You all have really sad inferiorty complexes, you are all just wanna-be muscle car owners who can't afford it.

hell if my broke ass can afford to have z28's then theres no excuse for em lol.

Hypsi87
11-02-2003, 09:17 PM
You know all of these import people always talk about takeing a corner and how an imprort will out corner a domestic but they never talk about how fast there car does a road course in. All they tell you is how there car ran a 24.89@34MPH in the 1/4 mile. What gives??? If it corners then corner it. If it is a drag car then run it. My GN won't corner I know this so I keep my cars black ass on the dragstrip.

pre
11-02-2003, 09:19 PM
A new GT at $30,000.... please.... $25,000

Second 14.5.... maybe with a Vert. Try more like flat 14's

Yes we'll see how many 400,000 mile RSX there are without any major trouble. You fucking import owners actually belive you own BS?

Even if an Evo with a mod-chip could run a 1/4 mile with a Z06 it wouldn't touch it in a corner. Which you said is important to you.

Rice Burners have a market cause they are youngs kids who want to be cool and have fast cars but they can't afford Mustang, Camaros, Vettes. So they buy CHEAPER import cars and they try to make them as fast. You all have really sad inferiorty complexes, you are all just wanna-be muscle car owners who can't afford it.

Yes............

83_Z28
11-02-2003, 10:57 PM
hypsi87 u actually say something worth while unlike every1 else, cars built for drag strips will do better on a drag strip while cars built for corners will out run the others in a corner race.....does that mean 1 type of car is better than the other? ONLY IN THERE SPECIALITY COARSE, so what all this bs, ill out run u,ill out run u , ill out run u.....its nonsence arguing cause certain cars are built different example a nova or chevelle are great for drag, hard to beat one suped up....but u get a porsche 911 turbo on a corner race it wont have much competition.....does that mean the nova or the porsche is better? Neither

Hypsi87
11-02-2003, 11:30 PM
exacly I built my car to run hard in a stright line. I get so tired of hearing rice say that they run a 1/4 mile at 34.45@14MPH but they will out run me in a road corse. I can build my car to handle like a road corse car but I chose drag racing

Chevyracincamaro
11-02-2003, 11:38 PM
most of these guys are hooking up all these imports because thy're cheap to buy and there's no limit to them. i can drive around town and see atleast 10 for sale signs on civics or eclipses or what ever you'd like, which i think makes em less appealing...another thing is those damn fast and furious movies. people see the movies and think that it would be cool to go get a civic and try to drive fast and do what they do in the movie, even though the movies are bullshit and horribly inaccurate.

SphinX
11-29-2003, 01:30 AM
About cornering, as for as the skid pad, imports are no good at handling. The corvette Z06 can pull just over 1g on the skid pad. The camaro/ta with the handling packages can pull a .97 on the skid pad. I believe the s-10 extreme with the handling package also did .97 on the skid pad. The Evolution and the WRX Sti could only pull a .85 on the skid pad then loosing control. Thats pretty sad. Now, this is all off the top of my head, so the numbers may be slightly off but not much. So, inessense... the imports can't handle better then Domestic vehicles, not even in the same realm. Imports cost more money to get the same outcome of horsepower as a V8, and the smaller engines aren't designed for the power and fail often. Think about it, you have a V8 and I4. Both have 300 hp, which one you think has more stress on the engine? The one with 4 extra cylinders that spead out the stress of the horsepower? Import tuners are popular in my area ( why i don't know ) i see more import tuners broken down then domestic muscle. I have 10 years experience working on cars and restoring them. I see import tuners in the shop all the time with blown engines. The little 4 cylinders engines can't and are not designed to handle horsepower like a V8. 4 cylinders are good for one thing, fuel economy, not racing. Join the Big Boys.

boots03
11-30-2003, 06:50 PM
ok, i am getting sick of all this "younger kids only buy ricers" wtf is this shit, lol, my first car was a big block plymouth fury. i know most kids buy thoes little rice rockets with fart cans, but hell not all of us do, so please dont sterio type all of us, lol, lol, my 85 Iroc has yet two lose to a ricer, all these little kids here in des moines with there civics, and accords thinking they are all bad asses, then they race a de-baded tpi, its great, hell half of them leave, lol, its not like the 3 inch exoust is a giveaway. now i am going to off on my own little tangent. here in des moines there are two lots where we meet to race, import/demestic(cant spell) it really funny watching the new SRT-4 take every V-TECH it comes incounter with, he has raced Integras with turbos, civics with the bottle, and hell even a onld school supercharged mr2, he eats them all, its great, and all the imports here in des moines still talk shit about it. to me all the little ricer fags just need to grow up, and get some balls, and buy something with a big V8, or hell any V-8, damn, at least get a SHO, its bet of both worlds, i guess, decent horspower, and its a wolf in sheeps clothing. Hey, i have an idea, lets all got to the NOPI nationals in Chicago this summer, and lets settle all this bad mouthing there,lol any takers? thank you for letting me go off on my tangent (rant)

83_Z28
11-30-2003, 08:31 PM
i had an 83 camaro which was my grandpa's with a 350 in it....i loved it but it was going to be too much money for me to fix up...but now im looking at a toyota tocoma 4 cylinder 4 wheel drive....that thing would last me 250k+ miles as where my camaro's transmission was leaking had a radiator problem and needed paint and several other things with 120k miles....buy me a 5-8 year old toyota with 50-100k miles, and it will last me twice as long as that camaro...thats why importss are more popular, there less expincive and more reliable but u can add intake and complete exaust and some high dome pistons, that will make a little civic run with most domestics that are $10k more then a civic

CamaroSSBoy346
11-30-2003, 08:39 PM
According to C&D the 2002 Camaro SS Convertable pulled .89 g's. Still good.. for a convertable.

SphinX
12-01-2003, 04:26 AM
Hate to burst your bubble, but.... that 83 camaro was 20 years old almost 21 now, where your 5 - 8 year old toyota is far less in age. Gaskets get old and leak no matter what vehicle it is. Guess what, when your toyota reaches 20+ years old it will leak like the camaro, but the thing is it will cost far more to fix the leaks in that import compared to your 83 camaro. Imports are crazy as far as repair costs. An 83 Camaro is easy to work on, way more then a import like a toyota pickup, oh and from my understanding, toyota pickups are made in the united states, just thought i would let you know. Oh and adding an intake and an exhaust and different pistons aren't going to cut it as far as running with the domestics. The intake is only going to run you about 5 to 10 hp more.... 10 is pushing it. The exhaust isn't going to do much good for you, may add 5 hp. Pistons.... like 5hp. So, if you have a civic, which i can't remember they have like 127 hp or so... maybe not even that, then you add a total of 20 extra hp maximum thats only 147 hp.... not enough dude, not even close, and the little 4 banger isn't made to handle more hp nor is the tranny, do you know how cheap and weak front wheel drive trannies are? Just because a part might add so much hp to a V8 doesn't mean it will do it to a 4 cylinder. 4 bangers are very hard to go horsepower out of. I'm going to laugh when people like yourself go buy a WRX sti or an EVO and play with it a little, and then parts start breaking. You know those 4 cylinders pushing 271hp and 300hp aren't going to last at all. The thing is 4 cylinders have to use a turbo to compete with the domestics, so don't tell me you can't put on a new intake and exhaust that does nothing for a 4 banger, add new pistons and tell me it will run with the stock big boys. You ought to know better then that. Apparently you don't know much about engines, or you wouldn't think like that. So maybe if you put a new intake on, left the exhaust alone ( cause it doesn't do anything but sound like crap) left the pistons alone as far as raising the compression ( if you want to put better grade pistons in, then do that) then slap a turbo on, then go for it, you might be closer to running with stock domestics, then your other route. But just to let you know, historically turbos are a pain in the butt, they aren't realiable, need to have a cooling down period, have to watch their temperature, when changing the oil, you have to prime the filter first before starting the engine. In others words.... A PAIN IN THE BUTT. Lots of money sunk in to what? A car that will still not be as fast as a domestic, and the resale will never be there either. Do you ever see a Civic becoming a collector item any time in the next century.... i don't. Like i said in the post above.... 4 cylinders are made for fuel economy thats all. Not racing. If you want to be fast, buy a V8. Sure v8 cars are a little more expensive ( for the whole car ) but when you start upgrading and fixing they make up for the extra cost. Let me put this in an easier term for you. Domestic car = maybe higher cost to buy, might not be, parts cheap compared to imports. Might become a collector or will have good resale value. Import car = inexpensive cost to buy, expenive to fix or upgrade. will not have a good resale value. Think about it like this. Around in my area a 1980 Camaro sells for around 5k-6k in good shape, a 1980 Honda sells for like 300 bucks in good shape. Get my drift? I don't mean to offend you but, if you think imports are made for speed and power, then you are a noob and no nothing about how engines work. You might be able to get decent hp out of a honda if you spend a ton of money, but the engine isn't going to last long. Twice as much stress on the 4 banger then on that V8 with the same amount of hp.

boots03
12-01-2003, 05:04 AM
ok, i will say thi s on behalf of an import, my girlfriend had a talon, we dyno'ed it at 100 basling h/p, said isnt lol, after the header/cat back 2.5 inch exoust/magnaflow fart can/ we managed to pick up another 23hp,imports are very receptive to tuning, buts its hella expncive, the sad this is though that our iroc is acually worth more then our old 92 talon. imports have no resale, imports have no torq, the only good import is the import that i just shoved off a clif

Genopsyde
12-02-2003, 01:34 AM
I wanna see one of these imports do a wheelstand, I prolly shouldn't hold my breath tho...

BullShifter
12-02-2003, 01:42 AM
I've seen RWD & AWD imports pull the front wheels before, but never a 1/4 mile wheel stand in 12 sec. like it should be done!!!!!!!!!!!!If some one were to sponsor my civic & convert it to a "wheel stander" I'd drive it!!

SphinX
12-02-2003, 04:10 AM
LoL!

boots03
12-02-2003, 10:11 AM
See, i ma two faced on this import thing,i like some imports because they have managed to earn the respect of me. such ass, the skyline gts,rx-7,rx-3(old school),silvia/240SX,Corolla AE-86, and the Rear whel drive celicas(oly because its my winter car lol) those cars are all rear whel drive and done right will pull fron tires of the ground

boots03
12-02-2003, 10:13 AM
wait, 83 camaro said that his 83 had a 350 in it, i thought they only had 305 for z28's until like 86?

Hypsi87
12-03-2003, 11:11 PM
About cornering, as for as the skid pad, imports are no good at handling. The corvette Z06 can pull just over 1g on the skid pad. The camaro/ta with the handling packages can pull a .97 on the skid pad. I believe the s-10 extreme with the handling package also did .97 on the skid pad. The Evolution and the WRX Sti could only pull a .85 on the skid pad then loosing control. Thats pretty sad. Now, this is all off the top of my head, so the numbers may be slightly off but not much. So, inessense... the imports can't handle better then Domestic vehicles, not even in the same realm. Imports cost more money to get the same outcome of horsepower as a V8, and the smaller engines aren't designed for the power and fail often. Think about it, you have a V8 and I4. Both have 300 hp, which one you think has more stress on the engine? The one with 4 extra cylinders that spead out the stress of the horsepower? Import tuners are popular in my area ( why i don't know ) i see more import tuners broken down then domestic muscle. I have 10 years experience working on cars and restoring them. I see import tuners in the shop all the time with blown engines. The little 4 cylinders engines can't and are not designed to handle horsepower like a V8. 4 cylinders are good for one thing, fuel economy, not racing. Join the Big Boys.


weather or not they do, rice still always says that there car ewill out corner everything. I reasent the remark about the smaller engines can't make the power and fail alot.......J/K
:wink:

nacho_nissan
12-04-2003, 07:28 PM
boots03...did u mean skyline GT-R?
well anyway,who ever said "ricers cant handle" is gay. Have u seen the JGTC race results? The gt500 limits any car with 500hp. Alot of skylines,supras,NSX's,MR-2's,RX-7's and all those race there..On 1 of those i saw a corvette z06,and a viper...Oh damn,it was so funny how the viper got like 25th place,and the vette was one of the last ones.. Even stock,american cars are just starting to put independent rear suspension on their cars,they barely found out that rear axles are not for good handling...people in here have no idea what imports are..They think as an import as a civic.But the import wourld has many good cars:Nissan R390 GT1,Nissan skyline V-spec,Nissan silvia,honda NSX,toyota supra,mazda rx-7,rx-8,and a lot more. See,the RX-8 has a 1.3l rotary engine doing 285hp,all motor.It has pretty good handling,and its really fast in any track.Dont just talk shit because you dont know,ricers are those people who have alot of bling*bling* on their civics,V-TEC,SI-R,and all those kind of stickes.Not just any japanese car is rice.So would ya'll please search a little bit before posting all this shit ya'll dont even know about! so please shut the fuck up,thank ya'll, and have a nice day!

BlkCamaroSS
12-04-2003, 08:57 PM
Excuse me, but you should get your facts straight, and stop pulling numbers out of your ass. Anyone who's played Gran Turismo can see all of the cars you just listed. Your numbers for the RX8 are wrong. They were rated at 250 hp, and you know what? They've been recalled because they didn't make that much. The new rating is 236 hp, and Mazda has said that they'll buy back the cars if anyone is unsatisfied with them. Where's the quality in that? I'll stick with my solid rear axle car that performs like it should. The reason most American cars have solid rear axles is because it's expensive to redesign them otherwise. Unless you're autocrossing or racing on road courses on a daily basis, it's not gonna make a bit of difference either way...

CamaroSSBoy346
12-04-2003, 09:15 PM
FYI The Si 1.6L VTEC makes 160 est floy wheel HP. Then minus %15 percent. Thats..um.. Also I was paging through my 2 year old issue of Super Street. I stmbled apon the Nopi Nat's page. According to them the worlds fastest all motor honda was an Integra.. 10.1 E/T's. Uh huh... I also strongly dislike the WRX and Evo. I dont know why truthfully. They just annoy the fuck outta me. I hope the SRT-4 rapes them all :) Then theirs a black civic Si in my area. Everytime school gets let out this idiot trys to pull from the redlights like hes a god. Its pretty funny, listning to his fart cannon whailing, barley able to pass Explorers and Camry's (Yeah, thats an Integra in my Profile. It represents everything an Import should be. All clean, all buisness.) Thanks for letting me ramble on.. :)

Genopsyde
12-04-2003, 09:32 PM
boots03...did u mean skyline GT-R?
well anyway,who ever said "ricers cant handle" is gay. Have u seen the JGTC race results? The gt500 limits any car with 500hp. Alot of skylines,supras,NSX's,MR-2's,RX-7's and all those race there..On 1 of those i saw a corvette z06,and a viper...Oh damn,it was so funny how the viper got like 25th place,and the vette was one of the last ones.. Even stock,american cars are just starting to put independent rear suspension on their cars,they barely found out that rear axles are not for good handling...people in here have no idea what imports are..They think as an import as a civic.But the import wourld has many good cars:Nissan R390 GT1,Nissan skyline V-spec,Nissan silvia,honda NSX,toyota supra,mazda rx-7,rx-8,and a lot more. See,the RX-8 has a 1.3l rotary engine doing 285hp,all motor.It has pretty good handling,and its really fast in any track.Dont just talk shit because you dont know,ricers are those people who have alot of bling*bling* on their civics,V-TEC,SI-R,and all those kind of stickes.Not just any japanese car is rice.So would ya'll please search a little bit before posting all this shit ya'll dont even know about! so please shut the fuck up,thank ya'll, and have a nice day!

Jesus Christ man, calm down, actin like it's the end of the world

CamaroSSBoy346
12-04-2003, 09:57 PM
"Nissan R390 GT1,Nissan skyline V-spec,Nissan silvia,honda NSX,toyota supra,mazda rx-7,rx-8,and a lot more"

Um. Okay.. R390 is a supercar thats what..? 1 mill.? I think you've played GT2 one too many times. The NSX. dont even get me started on the NSX. 90K For a Honda is insane. 90k is even more insane to run 14's and get out handled by the Z06. The Nissan Silvia. Ugh. KA24DE. 'nuff said. Of course you need to swap the engine out for the SR20DET just like every other Honda. The RX-8. Styling is questionable. Plus theirs 20HP difference if you get auto or manual. WTF. (MY MAZDA HAS A FORD ENGINE IN IT, TYVM.!) And the RX-7.. Its rare..very rare.. to find a turbo FD3S. The Skyline. Yes, JAPAN'S beast. Unfortunatly its 90K for an R34 GTR V-Spec. Plus money to have it shipped, legalized, and insured. Doesnt really seem like its worth the hassle. Oh Yeah. What car placed ONE AND TWO in the 24 hours of Le Mans? (or was it rolex?) Anywho, it was the Corvette C5-R.

Genopsyde
12-04-2003, 10:02 PM
Yea!

boots03
12-05-2003, 12:10 AM
ok, on what he said, nacho, i did mean the skyline GTS-M, its the rear wheel drive one, its kinda like the 2.5t, its only rear wheel drive, , and he forgot a few cars, lets go really old school, and get the RX-2, and RX-3, and RX-7's really are not all that rare, hell, there was 7 at my high school, 2 89 and 5 93, only one was a tt, but one was a R1, he he, that was fast, and about that 90K for the skyline, that is tax title and legalization, the only reason i know all of this, is i was going to get an R-32 threw motorex after i had goten out of the army, that Skyline R-34 V-Speck is 55k in japan, ok, now with my :2cents: in, i am going to go to bed

boots03
12-05-2003, 12:12 AM
BTw camarossboy, i belive it was both, but... before fore the corvette, was the VIPER GTS-R

SphinX
12-05-2003, 09:24 PM
ummmm American cars just now getting an independant rear end? LOL dude... please..... I think it was corvette that started it for production cars.... Vette have had independant rearends in them from the 1960's, for sure in the 1970's. Heck they might of had independent rearends in 1953, i don't know... but ill check on it. My 1987 Vette has independant rearend... thats all that is offered. So if anything... imports copied an american made car. The Vette has been around for 50 years, the imports weren't even in business then. So please, don't speak anymore, you are discredited about your knowledge of vehicles.

CamaroSSBoy346
12-05-2003, 09:31 PM
haha :owned:

nacho_nissan
12-05-2003, 10:45 PM
The Nissan Silvia. Ugh. KA24DE. 'nuff said. Of course you need to swap the engine out for the SR20DET just like every other Honda.

Bitch I just want to slap you so fuckin hard!its not even funny!since when does the silvia has a KA24 as a powerplant?? You are so stupid!!
The silvia and 180sx have been SR20DET powered since the s13 chasis.And I'm talking about the S15,you dont even know shit about it,as i can see!And no i dont play GT2.. The reason you dont like WRX's and Evos it's cause they're the bang for the buck! A neon SRT-4?? Oh shit,you motha fucka make me laugh! It sucks,the suspension sucks ass! you get what you pay for,I'll just throw $10k more,and buy a Evo instead of a gay neon! search before you post idiot!

nacho_nissan
12-05-2003, 11:19 PM
hey,who do ya'll think can catch those street racers faster?? A camro Z-28 cop-car or this.. (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/rjoo/area88/zukan/skyline/skyline01.html)
damn ricers,they are so fast! :eek:

nacho_nissan
12-05-2003, 11:23 PM
The Vette has been around for 50 years, the imports weren't even in business then. So please, don't speak anymore, you are discredited about your knowledge of vehicles.
oh....
Nissan was stablished like in 1959,what the fuck are you talking about,and honda was close to that...yah they might not have been out as long,but that shows how in less time they have gotten way better cars than american cars,specially ford...

BlkCamaroSS
12-06-2003, 12:09 AM
hey,who do ya'll think can catch those street racers faster?? A camro Z-28 cop-car or this.. (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/rjoo/area88/zukan/skyline/skyline01.html)
damn ricers,they are so fast! :eek:

The day I see one of those cop cars over here, I'll care...

As for the import companies starting in the late 50's, early 60's, pretty easy to capitalize on something that had already been designed before they were in business, wasn't it? It's always easier to make something better, than to design it in the first place, where's the ingenuity in that?

Hypsi87
12-06-2003, 04:23 PM
Bitch I just want to slap you so fuckin hard!its not even funny!since when does the silvia has a KA24 as a powerplant?? You are so stupid!!
The silvia and 180sx have been SR20DET powered since the s13 chasis.And I'm talking about the S15,you dont even know shit about it,as i can see!And no i dont play GT2.. The reason you dont like WRX's and Evos it's cause they're the bang for the buck! A neon SRT-4?? Oh shit,you motha fucka make me laugh! It sucks,the suspension sucks ass! you get what you pay for,I'll just throw $10k more,and buy a Evo instead of a gay neon! search before you post idiot!


woah chill man don't need to be an internet bad ass here. Whos the one being stupd here we are all discussing stupid ricers here not some supercar that was hand built and you can buy for the very cheap price of 1 mil. That is gay.....ricers are gay, high strung idoits who threaten to slap someone over the internet are gay. After saying that, for all of you ricers out there just take a trip over to the local dragstrip and take notes on who is dominating. You are the prime example of the type of import person that makes us american guys hate you.

banditkiller
12-06-2003, 04:58 PM
Posted by boots03 - 12-05-2003 at 05:10 AM
ok, on what he said, nacho, i did mean the skyline GTS-M, its the rear wheel drive one, its kinda like the 2.5t, its only rear wheel drive, , and he forgot a few cars, lets go really old school, and get the RX-2, and RX-3, and RX-7's really are not all that rare, hell, there was 7 at my high school, 2 89 and 5 93, only one was a tt, but one was a R1, he he, that was fast, and about that 90K for the skyline, that is tax title and legalization, the only reason i know all of this, is i was going to get an R-32 threw motorex after i had goten out of the army, that Skyline R-34 V-Speck is 55k in japan, ok, now with my :2cents: in, i am going to go to bed


Count em! HE said 5 93 rx-7's... and only one was tt. BULLSHIT! If you know anything about rx-7's ..... Or the rx line and the history of it.... The you would also know that ALL 93 and newer rx-7's were ALL tt. Sit down shut up and enjoy.

Hypsi87
12-06-2003, 05:32 PM
I thought all of them where Twin turbo but I was not for shure. Good call

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