Not Fast Enough
Wade
12-09-2001, 06:03 PM
My 2001 mustang cuts out every time at 117mph. I heard something about there being a "chip" or something installed in all cars after a certain year, like 1994. That will keep cars from going too fast. Is there a way to over-ride that or replace it.. .. and I was also wondering what the name of it was. (the chip)
Sincerely,
Wade
Sincerely,
Wade
YellowMaranello
12-09-2001, 06:05 PM
Welcome to AF! :D
Yeah, you can replace the ECU (chip). Its really expensive and you can get great results out of a new chip.
Yeah, you can replace the ECU (chip). Its really expensive and you can get great results out of a new chip.
MustangBellezx6r
12-12-2001, 05:07 PM
expensive? You can get one burned from between $250 and $350, depending on if you go with Superchips, or Johnson Motorsports, etc. That's not expensive at all in the Mustang aftermarket, quite reasonable actually...
HiFlow5 0
12-13-2001, 05:31 PM
i believe the chip Wade was talking about is a governer chip intended to shut the car down at a certian speed for saftey.
a aftermarket chip IMO is a waste of money unless you have a highly modded, supercharged, or nitrous car. yes a chip is cheaper then a supercharger, but look at the gain you will get from a super charger or such. a chip is expensive for the little gain you will achive from it and is a waste in a mostly stock car!
a aftermarket chip IMO is a waste of money unless you have a highly modded, supercharged, or nitrous car. yes a chip is cheaper then a supercharger, but look at the gain you will get from a super charger or such. a chip is expensive for the little gain you will achive from it and is a waste in a mostly stock car!
LiuBei
12-14-2001, 10:07 PM
Not fast enough huh? Your first mistake was buying a junk Mustang. Buy an F-Body and go 160+. Being slow is a common problem with mustangs, just get some kleenex and you'll be alright.
HiFlow5 0
12-15-2001, 01:49 AM
wow someone has a bug up the a$$, not all mustangs are slow. why do you have to come here and start crap? come back when you have something more impressive to say!
LiuBei
12-15-2001, 10:22 AM
Impressive to say, I am just speaking the truth. If that is something you can't comprehend, you're just SOL.
HiFlow5 0
12-15-2001, 11:25 AM
Seems more like your talking "facts" that you read those trendy car magazine's. Where's your experience, track time, time slips to back up your statements?
I'm not dogging f-body's, I kinda like them and respect there power. Yet I still favor my mustang cause that's what I am into, but you don't see me trashing other peoples cars or threads! I came here to talk cars and am interested in learning about ALL cars.
What someone does with there money and has there own taste in cars is none of you business. Who are you to put someone down for what they drive or believe in! you have just showed me the lack of respect you have for people, and you ignorance.
Craig
I'm not dogging f-body's, I kinda like them and respect there power. Yet I still favor my mustang cause that's what I am into, but you don't see me trashing other peoples cars or threads! I came here to talk cars and am interested in learning about ALL cars.
What someone does with there money and has there own taste in cars is none of you business. Who are you to put someone down for what they drive or believe in! you have just showed me the lack of respect you have for people, and you ignorance.
Craig
LiuBei
12-15-2001, 11:48 AM
Sorry, did I run over your dog or something. I think you went a little overboard there. Yeah you're right I hate everyone, everyone needs to go to hell. Yup, thats paraphrasing what I said, yup. BTW, I always rag on Mustang owners, they always rag on me because I have a Honda Civic and a T/A WS6. I can care less, if you can't handle people bashing each other in this manner go find another board. Hell put me on you ignore list.:cry: :cry: :cry:
MustangBellezx6r
12-17-2001, 04:08 AM
aww how cute the kiddies came out to car bash! :D Figured it was only a matter of time anyways. Too bad I was really starting to get used to this place.
Judge
12-31-2001, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by LiuBei
Not fast enough huh? Your first mistake was buying a junk Mustang. Buy an F-Body and go 160+. Being slow is a common problem with mustangs, just get some kleenex and you'll be alright.
http://www.dabros.com/images/robbie/suckballs.jpg
Not fast enough huh? Your first mistake was buying a junk Mustang. Buy an F-Body and go 160+. Being slow is a common problem with mustangs, just get some kleenex and you'll be alright.
http://www.dabros.com/images/robbie/suckballs.jpg
Dirty Frenchman
12-31-2001, 04:05 PM
Ok i find it difficult not to respond to people who are idiots as far as cars go. Mustangs are NOT slow, they are in fact musch faster than japanese cars are, wit a few exeptions ( such as the DMC i think, engine (sorry if i said the wrong one my memory isnt the best with names) which can handle up to 29 psi of boost which would destroy most engines)
Anyway. The new stock mustang does seem underpowerd at first because the long block engeneering is to pass emisions and ecomony over proformance, put an aftermarket induction and exhuast system that isnt so restrictive and the power explodes.
Hondas do not have the born ability to beat mustngs, or any V8 car produced. true, dump 10k into the engine and they will, but dump that cash into a mustang or camaro and they will run under 10 seconds. I will add that most of that money will be spent into stiffining the frame and other requirements needed to keep the car and driver in one pepice under that much power.
i have a 66 mustang with a 302 built engine. I did the work myself, spent $3000 and have 350 bhp. I run mid 12's in the 1/4.
course i dont expect to be countered with any logical or substantial argument, but there is always a first.
Anyway. The new stock mustang does seem underpowerd at first because the long block engeneering is to pass emisions and ecomony over proformance, put an aftermarket induction and exhuast system that isnt so restrictive and the power explodes.
Hondas do not have the born ability to beat mustngs, or any V8 car produced. true, dump 10k into the engine and they will, but dump that cash into a mustang or camaro and they will run under 10 seconds. I will add that most of that money will be spent into stiffining the frame and other requirements needed to keep the car and driver in one pepice under that much power.
i have a 66 mustang with a 302 built engine. I did the work myself, spent $3000 and have 350 bhp. I run mid 12's in the 1/4.
course i dont expect to be countered with any logical or substantial argument, but there is always a first.
SkylineUSA
12-31-2001, 11:42 PM
What Rank are you liubei?
Your are not too bright, saying all mustangs are slow. You can make any car fast, Hell, even a Yugo if you wanted. You said you have a WS6, how much did that run you? I bet I have less than half of that in my Stang, and you will still see my tail lights at the end of the 1/4. I run high 11's, and if I wanted to spend a couple more thou I would be deep in the 10's. There are guys in my town running low 9s, and have less than $15,000, yeah ALL STANGS ARE SLOW:rolleyes:
Now go study your PFE:D
Your are not too bright, saying all mustangs are slow. You can make any car fast, Hell, even a Yugo if you wanted. You said you have a WS6, how much did that run you? I bet I have less than half of that in my Stang, and you will still see my tail lights at the end of the 1/4. I run high 11's, and if I wanted to spend a couple more thou I would be deep in the 10's. There are guys in my town running low 9s, and have less than $15,000, yeah ALL STANGS ARE SLOW:rolleyes:
Now go study your PFE:D
SkylineUSA
12-31-2001, 11:58 PM
By showing your lack of intelligence, and ignorance really does not do the Air Force any justice. I advise you to curb what you write in the future.
tommy saleen
01-02-2002, 06:47 PM
Go to SVTPerformance.com (http://www.svtperformance.com)
Look up Jim at JDM he has his own forum.
Look up Jim at JDM he has his own forum.
Booyah
01-11-2002, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by LiuBei
Sorry, did I run over your dog or something. I think you went a little overboard there. Yeah you're right I hate everyone, everyone needs to go to hell. Yup, thats paraphrasing what I said, yup. BTW, I always rag on Mustang owners, they always rag on me because I have a Honda Civic and a T/A WS6. I can care less, if you can't handle people bashing each other in this manner go find another board. Hell put me on you ignore list.:cry: :cry: :cry:
Wow this guy is amazing. First he drives a Honda Civic which I believe and claims to drive a WS6. HMMMMMM, I'm in no doubt that he is in the Air Force though. :D
Sorry, did I run over your dog or something. I think you went a little overboard there. Yeah you're right I hate everyone, everyone needs to go to hell. Yup, thats paraphrasing what I said, yup. BTW, I always rag on Mustang owners, they always rag on me because I have a Honda Civic and a T/A WS6. I can care less, if you can't handle people bashing each other in this manner go find another board. Hell put me on you ignore list.:cry: :cry: :cry:
Wow this guy is amazing. First he drives a Honda Civic which I believe and claims to drive a WS6. HMMMMMM, I'm in no doubt that he is in the Air Force though. :D
DarknessRS
01-11-2002, 01:50 PM
OK, I'm not here to bash Fords!
Back to the topic: do all of the newer model mustang's have a speed limiter like that? If so why???? Why would ford limit the speed of such a fast car??? I would understand if it was limited to like 140 or something but why is it that low?
Back to the topic: do all of the newer model mustang's have a speed limiter like that? If so why???? Why would ford limit the speed of such a fast car??? I would understand if it was limited to like 140 or something but why is it that low?
Booyah
01-11-2002, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by DarknessRS
OK, I'm not here to bash Fords!
Back to the topic: do all of the newer model mustang's have a speed limiter like that? If so why???? Why would ford limit the speed of such a fast car??? I would understand if it was limited to like 140 or something but why is it that low?
Probably because of all the mommy and daddy's out there that think it's a good idea to buy their 16 year old kid a Mustang GT for their birthday. I don't think they started this until the 99's, not this low anyways.
OK, I'm not here to bash Fords!
Back to the topic: do all of the newer model mustang's have a speed limiter like that? If so why???? Why would ford limit the speed of such a fast car??? I would understand if it was limited to like 140 or something but why is it that low?
Probably because of all the mommy and daddy's out there that think it's a good idea to buy their 16 year old kid a Mustang GT for their birthday. I don't think they started this until the 99's, not this low anyways.
Chris
01-11-2002, 02:00 PM
Teh speed limiter is set at the tires speed rating. 118mph, so it had t-rated tires. If it had V-rated tires stock, the limiter would be set at 149mph. If the tires were good to 250mph, then they wouldn't put the limiter in. Its to keep you alive. If you went 160mph on a 118mph tire, it would probably explode, and you would die. In this case, the manufacturer is to be lauded.
Booyah
01-11-2002, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Chris
Teh speed limiter is set at the tires speed rating. 118mph, so it had t-rated tires. If it had V-rated tires stock, the limiter would be set at 149mph. If the tires were good to 250mph, then they wouldn't put the limiter in. Its to keep you alive. If you went 160mph on a 118mph tire, it would probably explode, and you would die. In this case, the manufacturer is to be lauded.
That may be part of it but like I said before it's because of the popularity of buying the higher performance level Mustangs for less experienced drivers. For instance I've had my Cobra up to 153 and shortly after that the limiter would have come in. But Cobra's have Z rated tires stock, which have no real upper limit. So why the limiter then? Just food for thought.
Teh speed limiter is set at the tires speed rating. 118mph, so it had t-rated tires. If it had V-rated tires stock, the limiter would be set at 149mph. If the tires were good to 250mph, then they wouldn't put the limiter in. Its to keep you alive. If you went 160mph on a 118mph tire, it would probably explode, and you would die. In this case, the manufacturer is to be lauded.
That may be part of it but like I said before it's because of the popularity of buying the higher performance level Mustangs for less experienced drivers. For instance I've had my Cobra up to 153 and shortly after that the limiter would have come in. But Cobra's have Z rated tires stock, which have no real upper limit. So why the limiter then? Just food for thought.
DVSNCYNIKL
01-11-2002, 02:19 PM
LiuBei: Read my PM to you!:mad:
As for everyone else, please continue this topic in a mature manner. I am actually reading some of your posts and find somethings worth discussing.
As for everyone else, please continue this topic in a mature manner. I am actually reading some of your posts and find somethings worth discussing.
Chris
01-14-2002, 02:16 PM
Z rated tires have a limit in excess of 149mph. So it could be 150 or 250. It all depends on the tire.
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