jdm or usdm h22, help!!!!!!!!
crazyH
10-28-2003, 07:05 PM
Ok guys im very close to purchasing a 1996 prelude with a new h22 swap, The motor is claimed to a be a jdm h22 by the owner. How can i tell if it is j-spec or just a us version h22?? Also is there only one type of jdm h22a or is the type-s version have more horspower?? The only spec i know is that jdm h22's have 220hp and not sure about torqeu. if anyone has all the specs let me know!
hondaracer
10-28-2003, 10:29 PM
JDM specs for h22:
200HP JDM H22A
2157cc (2.2L) DOHC VTEC
200hp/161trq
10.6 Compression Ratio
200HP JDM H22A
2157cc (2.2L) DOHC VTEC
200hp/161trq
10.6 Compression Ratio
crazyH
10-28-2003, 10:34 PM
JDM specs for h22:
200HP JDM H22A
2157cc (2.2L) DOHC VTEC
200hp/161trq
10.6 Compression Ratio
Are you sure! ive seen multiple times that the jdm h22 has 220hp! and the us version has 195 or 200hp
200HP JDM H22A
2157cc (2.2L) DOHC VTEC
200hp/161trq
10.6 Compression Ratio
Are you sure! ive seen multiple times that the jdm h22 has 220hp! and the us version has 195 or 200hp
hondaracer
10-28-2003, 10:55 PM
Are you sure! ive seen multiple times that the jdm h22 has 220hp! and the us version has 195 or 200hp
Yes I'm sure but I too have seen that 220hp jdm h22 your talking about. There is two h22's I think. One of the jdm's has 200hp and the other has 220hp. That jdm h22 you've seen probably has a higher compression ratio than the one I just posted but that is facts what I just posted above. I got them off a website that sells just jdm engines.
Yes I'm sure but I too have seen that 220hp jdm h22 your talking about. There is two h22's I think. One of the jdm's has 200hp and the other has 220hp. That jdm h22 you've seen probably has a higher compression ratio than the one I just posted but that is facts what I just posted above. I got them off a website that sells just jdm engines.
93accordEX
10-29-2003, 08:36 AM
type s/euro r has 220 hp. most likely the car you are looking at doesn't have that unless they specifically mentioned it. the regular jdm h22 is pretty much exactly like the us, a bit higher compression, so thats why it makes a little more power then the US engines.
BLU CIVIC
10-29-2003, 08:45 AM
H22A
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 220@7200
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 163@6500
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Bore (mm): 87
Stroke (mm): 90.7
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 2
Year(s) Produced: 1997-2001
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude SiR (JDM)
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 200@7000
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 156@5250
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Bore (mm): 0
Stroke (mm): 0
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 2
Year(s) Produced: 1999-2001
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 190@6800
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 152@5500
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
Bore (mm): 0
Stroke (mm): 0
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1 or 2
Year(s) Produced: 1994-1997
In the following car(s): Honda Accord SiR
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 220@7200
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 163@6500
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Bore (mm): 87
Stroke (mm): 90.7
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 2
Year(s) Produced: 1997-2001
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude Type S (JDM)
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 200@6800
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 161@5500
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
Bore (mm): 0
Stroke (mm): 0
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1 or 2
Year(s) Produced: 1992-1996
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude VTEC
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 220@7200
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 163@6500
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Bore (mm): 87
Stroke (mm): 90.7
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 2
Year(s) Produced: 1997-2001
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude SiR (JDM)
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 200@7000
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 156@5250
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Bore (mm): 0
Stroke (mm): 0
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 2
Year(s) Produced: 1999-2001
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 190@6800
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 152@5500
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
Bore (mm): 0
Stroke (mm): 0
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1 or 2
Year(s) Produced: 1994-1997
In the following car(s): Honda Accord SiR
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 220@7200
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 163@6500
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Bore (mm): 87
Stroke (mm): 90.7
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 2
Year(s) Produced: 1997-2001
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude Type S (JDM)
Displacement (cc): 2157
Power (bhp@rpm): 200@6800
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 161@5500
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
Bore (mm): 0
Stroke (mm): 0
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1 or 2
Year(s) Produced: 1992-1996
In the following car(s): Honda Prelude VTEC
badboycivic2003
10-29-2003, 09:55 AM
this applies to e also as I am looking for a JDM H22. Where did you get yours from??
Also, I have always seen websites state that the JDM H22 is 200hp ...so the prelude sir has 220hp ....whats the difference between the two engines apart from power? I hve never seen the SiR prelude engine for sale anywhere on the net.
DO you know any websites that sell it blu civic??
Also, I have always seen websites state that the JDM H22 is 200hp ...so the prelude sir has 220hp ....whats the difference between the two engines apart from power? I hve never seen the SiR prelude engine for sale anywhere on the net.
DO you know any websites that sell it blu civic??
BLU CIVIC
10-29-2003, 10:00 AM
guy over here is sellin one
http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28050&perpage=15&highlight=h22a&pagenumber=1
other than that...they go for about $2k on ebay
http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28050&perpage=15&highlight=h22a&pagenumber=1
other than that...they go for about $2k on ebay
steffear
02-21-2004, 07:36 PM
I got my jdm b18c from hondamotorsonline.com but last time I checked the website was offline but I was very satisfied with quality of engine and shipping time, the only thing is I got a canadian tranny not jdm, but turned out to be better cause it has longer gears = better gas mileage on the highway.
mjline99
02-24-2004, 08:48 PM
does a h22a engine jdm/usdm either one. does ne body kno if any of the civics other engine parts(trans,ecu,harness,mounts,etc) will be compatible with either one of those engines.
deezzen
02-25-2004, 01:06 AM
i just got my h22 for my 2000 accord i heard the different between the to is that us redline at 7300 and jdm redline at 8300 i have also seen the type s the diff is high comp and a lsd trans but i pick my set up for 1800 hundred only all jdm from a 98
93hybridaccord
02-25-2004, 01:21 AM
Ok guys im very close to purchasing a 1996 prelude with a new h22 swap, The motor is claimed to a be a jdm h22 by the owner. How can i tell if it is j-spec or just a us version h22?? Also is there only one type of jdm h22a or is the type-s version have more horspower?? The only spec i know is that jdm h22's have 220hp and not sure about torqeu. if anyone has all the specs let me know!
To tell whether it is a true JDM h22, it will be stamped with just h22a. If it is a usdm, it will be h22a1 or h22a2. Either way, it will have a number after the letter a. The JDM block doesn't have this number. Also, if you'd like to know what year the engine is, look at the head itself. You'll see 3 circles with numbers and arrows in them just between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd exhaust ports. The middle circle will have 2 numbers. The first will be a 9 and the second will be whatever. For instance, mine says 9|2. That means 1992. it also shows the month it was made. Everyone else is correct as far as hp numbers.
MJline99, as far as I know, the tranny and mounts will not work. From what I understand though, some years of hatches with h22's use gsr axles, unfortunately, I don't know which. Ecu's and harnesses, your guess is as good as mine, but I could find out if you really need it.
To tell whether it is a true JDM h22, it will be stamped with just h22a. If it is a usdm, it will be h22a1 or h22a2. Either way, it will have a number after the letter a. The JDM block doesn't have this number. Also, if you'd like to know what year the engine is, look at the head itself. You'll see 3 circles with numbers and arrows in them just between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd exhaust ports. The middle circle will have 2 numbers. The first will be a 9 and the second will be whatever. For instance, mine says 9|2. That means 1992. it also shows the month it was made. Everyone else is correct as far as hp numbers.
MJline99, as far as I know, the tranny and mounts will not work. From what I understand though, some years of hatches with h22's use gsr axles, unfortunately, I don't know which. Ecu's and harnesses, your guess is as good as mine, but I could find out if you really need it.
mjline99
02-25-2004, 06:15 PM
thanks 93hybridaccord no need to find out for me
mjline99
02-25-2004, 06:19 PM
some other forums have been saying that its not a good idea to turbo a h22 engine becuase it mostly results in a blown engine. another thing what do u think would be the best engine in a 98 civic for easy installation(compatible parts like tranny),cheap and best results.
93hybridaccord
02-26-2004, 12:09 AM
some other forums have been saying that its not a good idea to turbo a h22 engine becuase it mostly results in a blown engine. another thing what do u think would be the best engine in a 98 civic for easy installation(compatible parts like tranny),cheap and best results.
You can turbo the h22. It's all about tuning and how you build it. The b16 is probably your best choice.
You can turbo the h22. It's all about tuning and how you build it. The b16 is probably your best choice.
mjline99
02-26-2004, 05:44 PM
thanx 93hybridaccord
freakypn0ylykhoy
03-15-2004, 11:38 PM
does any one know where or how i can find out how to a h22 in a 92 - 95 hatch?
SRV BOY
03-16-2004, 02:17 PM
I am thinking about putting a turbo on for my h22a engine, will it blow my engine?
93hybridaccord
03-16-2004, 03:43 PM
I am thinking about putting a turbo on for my h22a engine, will it blow my engine?
It all depends on how much boost you want to run. 6psi and not driving like you stole it all day long will be fine from what I've read. Overboosting for any small length of time, and you will put a hole in a piston. A bad boost spike will do some damage as well.
It all depends on how much boost you want to run. 6psi and not driving like you stole it all day long will be fine from what I've read. Overboosting for any small length of time, and you will put a hole in a piston. A bad boost spike will do some damage as well.
gt500kr
03-16-2004, 05:16 PM
no way! go with an H22a
and ALWAYS go with JDM not usdm.
for 2 main reasons
1. Power, th us has all those dumb emmitions laws that cut power
2. All the good parts are made for jdm engines
but wheith you go with an H22a or a B16 go jdm
http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
that website has some good deals on jdm's
and ALWAYS go with JDM not usdm.
for 2 main reasons
1. Power, th us has all those dumb emmitions laws that cut power
2. All the good parts are made for jdm engines
but wheith you go with an H22a or a B16 go jdm
http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
that website has some good deals on jdm's
93hybridaccord
03-16-2004, 05:31 PM
no way! go with an H22a
and ALWAYS go with JDM not usdm.
for 2 main reasons
1. Power, th us has all those dumb emmitions laws that cut power
2. All the good parts are made for jdm engines
but wheith you go with an H22a or a B16 go jdm
http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
that website has some good deals on jdm's
I'm sorry, but you are wrong.
1. In order to license the car for road use, most places require you to get an emissions test. In order to get the JDM to pass, all that dumb emissions stuff you talk about has to be on the car, which affects the hp of the jdm engine just like it does the usdm engine, so basically there is not that much difference between jdm and usdm if you plan on getting it on the road. Maybe a couple hp, but not noticeable.
2. Please show me a part you can buy for a jdm h22a that you can't install on a usdm h22a1 engine.
and ALWAYS go with JDM not usdm.
for 2 main reasons
1. Power, th us has all those dumb emmitions laws that cut power
2. All the good parts are made for jdm engines
but wheith you go with an H22a or a B16 go jdm
http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
that website has some good deals on jdm's
I'm sorry, but you are wrong.
1. In order to license the car for road use, most places require you to get an emissions test. In order to get the JDM to pass, all that dumb emissions stuff you talk about has to be on the car, which affects the hp of the jdm engine just like it does the usdm engine, so basically there is not that much difference between jdm and usdm if you plan on getting it on the road. Maybe a couple hp, but not noticeable.
2. Please show me a part you can buy for a jdm h22a that you can't install on a usdm h22a1 engine.
gt500kr
03-18-2004, 04:57 PM
right you are about the parts. but i dint have to get an emitions test.
and 10hp is a noticable diff. even more so in a honda. and if you put a turbo on, thats 15-20 more hp than a usdm. my point is that there is a reason REAL racers use JDM swaps. not to diss you SRT-4, which is a tight ride, but japanise parts and engines just work better. dont ask me why. my car (93 prelude si) had a crappy engine, so crappy in fact my timing belt was linked to a wheel with a hampster in it, that gave me one extra hp, lol. it dint even run, till i dropped my pimp'n H22a in and now it flys, well..............its quick. http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
peace
and 10hp is a noticable diff. even more so in a honda. and if you put a turbo on, thats 15-20 more hp than a usdm. my point is that there is a reason REAL racers use JDM swaps. not to diss you SRT-4, which is a tight ride, but japanise parts and engines just work better. dont ask me why. my car (93 prelude si) had a crappy engine, so crappy in fact my timing belt was linked to a wheel with a hampster in it, that gave me one extra hp, lol. it dint even run, till i dropped my pimp'n H22a in and now it flys, well..............its quick. http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
peace
gt500kr
03-18-2004, 05:36 PM
It all depends on how much boost you want to run. 6psi and not driving like you stole it all day long will be fine from what I've read. Overboosting for any small length of time, and you will put a hole in a piston. A bad boost spike will do some damage as well.
i agree, 7or 8 psi is the most i would put on a daily driver. remember, your intercooler is gonna block alot if your raidiator so keep that in mind and if you just wanna run like 260hp put a stage 1 turbo w/o an intercooler.
http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
peace
i agree, 7or 8 psi is the most i would put on a daily driver. remember, your intercooler is gonna block alot if your raidiator so keep that in mind and if you just wanna run like 260hp put a stage 1 turbo w/o an intercooler.
http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
peace
93hybridaccord
03-19-2004, 01:50 AM
right you are about the parts. but i dint have to get an emitions test.
and 10hp is a noticable diff. even more so in a honda. and if you put a turbo on, thats 15-20 more hp than a usdm. my point is that there is a reason REAL racers use JDM swaps. not to diss you SRT-4, which is a tight ride, but japanise parts and engines just work better. dont ask me why. my car (93 prelude si) had a crappy engine, so crappy in fact my timing belt was linked to a wheel with a hampster in it, that gave me one extra hp, lol. it dint even run, till i dropped my pimp'n H22a in and now it flys, well..............its quick. http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
peace
When you are talking about building a motor like I am, 10hp isn't squat. I'm looking to squeeze 500-600whp out of my h22a. whether it's 520 or 530, you won't notice.
You forgot to answer my post about what parts will work on a jdm that won't on a usdm.
I don't know why you stuck in the part about the srt-4, didn't have anything to do with my response other than to do exactly what you said you weren't and that's dissing on it. I don't see why everyone assumes the motor in it won't last. I haven't had a single problem with my car since I got it and that was a year ago. It's pushing 250whp and 270wtq and by the end of the summer both of those numbers will be over 300 and it will still be running as strong as the day I got it.
and 10hp is a noticable diff. even more so in a honda. and if you put a turbo on, thats 15-20 more hp than a usdm. my point is that there is a reason REAL racers use JDM swaps. not to diss you SRT-4, which is a tight ride, but japanise parts and engines just work better. dont ask me why. my car (93 prelude si) had a crappy engine, so crappy in fact my timing belt was linked to a wheel with a hampster in it, that gave me one extra hp, lol. it dint even run, till i dropped my pimp'n H22a in and now it flys, well..............its quick. http://www.totaljdm.com/?id=41044
peace
When you are talking about building a motor like I am, 10hp isn't squat. I'm looking to squeeze 500-600whp out of my h22a. whether it's 520 or 530, you won't notice.
You forgot to answer my post about what parts will work on a jdm that won't on a usdm.
I don't know why you stuck in the part about the srt-4, didn't have anything to do with my response other than to do exactly what you said you weren't and that's dissing on it. I don't see why everyone assumes the motor in it won't last. I haven't had a single problem with my car since I got it and that was a year ago. It's pushing 250whp and 270wtq and by the end of the summer both of those numbers will be over 300 and it will still be running as strong as the day I got it.
gt500kr
03-31-2004, 09:14 PM
When you are talking about building a motor like I am, 10hp isn't squat. I'm looking to squeeze 500-600whp out of my h22a. whether it's 520 or 530, you won't notice.
You forgot to answer my post about what parts will work on a jdm that won't on a usdm.
I don't know why you stuck in the part about the srt-4, didn't have anything to do with my response other than to do exactly what you said you weren't and that's dissing on it. I don't see why everyone assumes the motor in it won't last. I haven't had a single problem with my car since I got it and that was a year ago. It's pushing 250whp and 270wtq and by the end of the summer both of those numbers will be over 300 and it will still be running as strong as the day I got it.
250hp? its not boosted yet is it. and yes i did answer your ? about the parts. the very first sentence. let me geuss..........you ve put cold air induction and cat back ex, perhaps a new manifold? am i right?
You forgot to answer my post about what parts will work on a jdm that won't on a usdm.
I don't know why you stuck in the part about the srt-4, didn't have anything to do with my response other than to do exactly what you said you weren't and that's dissing on it. I don't see why everyone assumes the motor in it won't last. I haven't had a single problem with my car since I got it and that was a year ago. It's pushing 250whp and 270wtq and by the end of the summer both of those numbers will be over 300 and it will still be running as strong as the day I got it.
250hp? its not boosted yet is it. and yes i did answer your ? about the parts. the very first sentence. let me geuss..........you ve put cold air induction and cat back ex, perhaps a new manifold? am i right?
ra227
03-31-2004, 09:41 PM
The SRT-4 comes stock form dodge w/ a turbo. Thats why most import nuts think it won't be realiable (american motor w/ turbo). I was just reading in MODIFIED where they had one pushing 500whp. The main thing to me is the look, its not my favorite, but I respect the power and we should see even more fast ass modded up SRT-4's in the future
93hybridaccord
04-01-2004, 12:46 PM
250hp? its not boosted yet is it. and yes i did answer your ? about the parts. the very first sentence. let me geuss..........you ve put cold air induction and cat back ex, perhaps a new manifold? am i right?
Obviously you don't know what the hell an srt-4 is if you didn't know it was turbocharged, but yet you are saying that jap engines and parts are better than the srt-4 parts and engine. You are a fool. I've spent about $650 and have about 35whp and 30wtq more than it was at stock. Also, no, I don't have a cold air intake, exhaust of any kind or a new manifold. All of that is stock. Like ra227 said, there is one srt with over 500whp on a stock engine, a couple that are in the 400 range on a stock engine and many many that are in the mid 300 range. Then you have shaun carlson who drives the srt-4 drag car. He's over 900whp on something like 44psi and he's running the stock head, block, bedplate and crank. You might as well stop posting about the car cause you have no clue about it. I imagine you probably got beat by one and now hate them so you have to dis on them.
Obviously you don't know what the hell an srt-4 is if you didn't know it was turbocharged, but yet you are saying that jap engines and parts are better than the srt-4 parts and engine. You are a fool. I've spent about $650 and have about 35whp and 30wtq more than it was at stock. Also, no, I don't have a cold air intake, exhaust of any kind or a new manifold. All of that is stock. Like ra227 said, there is one srt with over 500whp on a stock engine, a couple that are in the 400 range on a stock engine and many many that are in the mid 300 range. Then you have shaun carlson who drives the srt-4 drag car. He's over 900whp on something like 44psi and he's running the stock head, block, bedplate and crank. You might as well stop posting about the car cause you have no clue about it. I imagine you probably got beat by one and now hate them so you have to dis on them.
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