my ls/vtec and its victims

i have a sleek, black LS Integra...with recently built LS/vtec:
- CTR pistons 12:1 compression
- ITR intake manifold
- enlarged throttle body
- still in slow progress...needs the basic stuff like header and fuel management
- soon to have a freind donate a turbo from his supra when upgrading

here are the victims so far...and i have only lost one race...lastnite to a built WS6 trans am

-Athens County Sheriff
-Z28 Camaro
-LT1 Firebird
-WS6 Trans Am
-Many, Many Mustang 5.0's
-Mustang w/ 351
-Many, Many kids that think their Caveliers are fast
-Old School Porsche
-H22 Prelude
-GSR Integra
-Dodge Stealth
-Other Integras...
Additions as of Oct. 19...
-Twin-Turbo Fairlady 300z
-Mustang Cobra
-BMW
-Turbo Supra
-Mustang GT
-Mustang Cobra #2
-Mustang Gt #???
-Turbo Supra #2
-Convertable Mustang GT (Got Nitrous?)

Oh, and i forgot about the tranny...It's an Sir w/LSD...my bad

That's quite a list you have there. I have beat people before but they didn't know I was racing them :-P hehe.

jus wondering wut times ur putting down w/ that?

because most of those cars are atleast high to mid 13's, NOT doubting at all (sorry if it sounds that way at all), jus am interested in if u've ran it at the track.

buddy had an ls/vtec and was putting down low 14's w/ simple bolts an lsd tranny.

that setup doesn't sound like you should be making that much more hp than an ITR? how are you beating 13 second cars? All you have is a little higher compression and an enlarged throttle body over the R.


I'm not callin BS but I can understand beatin the 300z or even the cobra but how in the world could you have beaten those cavaliers???????

good job man. i raced a ls/vtec in my home town last weekend and i didnt start beating him till about 100 or so. the trans in your car makes a big diff. lots of torque. when u turbo u should be in the low 11's.

sounds like u got a sleek car...good list u got...heard that ls/vtec has lots of problems...u got any yet?...j/w...i gotta 94' ls and was planning to do ls/vtec, but not too sure yet either...jux wanna know what kinda problems i mite run into when doing this swap...thanx...peace

sounds like u got a sleek car...good list u got...heard that ls/vtec has lots of problems...u got any yet?...j/w...i gotta 94' ls and was planning to do ls/vtec, but not too sure yet either...jux wanna know what kinda problems i mite run into when doing this swap...thanx...peace

from what i know of lsvtec most of the problems occur from people not building their internals and overrevving their engines and breaking stuff that way. lsvtec and be plenty reliable as long as you do it right. if you have an lsvtec you will obviously be revving higher than a stock LS so people get ecu's without a rev limiter and end up revving too high, bending valves breaking other internals.

:lol: :lol: :lol: This is funny! I love BS threads like this one! :lol: :rofl:

....right...you beat a 330+hp cobra with your 190 teg...right.

:lol: :lol: :lol: This is funny! I love BS threads like this one! :lol: :rofl:
yeh...i sometimes dont believe it myself...but ive beaten 2 cobras...they hold their own...but im guessing its mainly because i dont have to shift quite as often as them...plus its a FORD mustang

good job man. i raced a ls/vtec in my home town last weekend and i didnt start beating him till about 100 or so. the trans in your car makes a big diff. lots of torque. when u turbo u should be in the low 11's.
well ive had a couple probs...but the only one that has to do with the swap is the head gasket...the guy that built my motor used a cometic gasket made for turbo'd cars...and mine is blown...so the head gasket is the main prob of ls/vtec's from what i have experienced and have heard

heres a dyno and 1/4 mile of a frankenstein swap, it ran a 13.2. if done right it is a killer http://www.importreview.com/reviews/lsvtec.html

im not sure about my car...ive beat many cars which should definitely be able to beat me...maybe its all about the drivers...but i recently pulled on a civic with a built gsr (2.0) which should have blown me away...maybe its my transmission...i dunno...people may not believe me about the cobra's or any other cars that ive raced and beat...but i guess u gotta see it to believe it...i havnt had my car to the track yet cuz it was broken down without a tranny until the track was closed...but i do plan on taking it...dunno wut time to expect tho

I know LS-Vtec's can be pretty fast but I am not really buying this story. I mean some of the cars....ok but the Supra Turbo for example should blow you away. Those things come with 320HP and run low 13's. Your LS/vtec just with pistons and enlarged throttlebody is not gonna run with a Turbo Supra or a Cobra for that matter. I might become a believer once you show us a slip but for now I can't really believe this story.

my bad....didnt realize it but i need to correct something...the turbo supras are not the new styles with the 2jz's...they were the body style b4 like 88-91 style supras.....but i swear up and down that i did race 2 cobras...and it was really close...but i pulled on them in fourth and they got me after 115 cuz i have a DAMN speed limiter

Im gonna have to raise the BS flag, I have many friends with LS1's, had a 2000 SS myself, and it will take one hell of an Integra to bump it, and may I ask what year cobra you refer to? Cause a 2003 can no prob through down a straight up 12.8, and many stock camaro's, automatics can beast out a 13.5, if the person can launch.

You would need a monster turbo, I mean MONSTER to pull on those cars, or a fully built car, with a stroked motor, wieght reduction, and a piss load of other stuff.

Sorry man, but without video, imma call BS, when I see the tapes, I will happily retract my statements.

well...its understandable not to believe me...and i dont believe it sometimes either like i said...but i know what i raced...and they werent the NEW style but like prolly 95 or 96 style cobras...but im not well educated on "american muscle"

Oh its cool, American Muscle Lesson;

4th gen (98-02) LS1's (camaro's and firebirds) 320hp claimed, but highly under rated, more like 320-330 at the wheels
3rd gen (93-97) Lt1's, like 285hp, but not too fast, but mods on them can quickly bump them up

03 Cobra, claimed 390hp, highly underrated, more like 400 at the wheels
99/01 Cobra, 320hp, if the 99 has the recall done. Fast, but can be beaten
99-03 Gt's 270 hp advertised, but like 220 at the wheels, nice torque though, had one, and headers, exhaust, and some gears, easily mid-low 13's car.

94-98 cobras, well 94/95 were 5.0 liter, which have the potential to be beast, but they only got like 230hp stock, the 96-98 move to a 4.6 liter, with around 280hp (at the cranK) not too fast, but very respectable

Corvette, 97-03, base 350hp, ZO6, like 405 HP, beast!

Thats all i wanted to rant about

my bad....didnt realize it but i need to correct something...the turbo supras are not the new styles with the 2jz's...they were the body style b4 like 88-91 style supras.....but i swear up and down that i did race 2 cobras...and it was really close...but i pulled on them in fourth and they got me after 115 cuz i have a DAMN speed limiter

OK I can believe that. I just assumed it was a 93+ Supra Turbo. The older ones are quick but you could probably beat them.

here are the victims so far...and i have only lost one race...lastnite to a built WS6 trans am



Quarter mile elapsed times and trap speeds are a great way to prove your claims. Otherwise, the forum will think you're just telling tall tales. Similarly, dyno charts will help you see if you're actually making more power or just wasting money. Good Luck.

heres a dyno and 1/4 mile of a frankenstein swap, it ran a 13.2. if done right it can be very expensive but definately a killer http://www.importreview.com/reviews/lsvtec.html on an update the ls/vtec did 12 flat!

first of all
stop repeating this line!!!!

second of all
That ls/vtec has a lot more done to it that this guys does so if that one can run a 13.2 with those mods listed then i really really doubt this guy is beatin twin turbo Z's and cobras, etc,etc. with only 1.8l vtec engine with an SiR tranny and enlarged throttle body, ITR intake manifold, and CTR pistons (by the way do CTR pistons make 12:1 compression???).

I don't think this guy will be much faster than a type r, and i think that the ls being heavier than a type r will make up for the difference, but if he is faster than only slightly because of a little more compression.

oh and another thing, where does this guy live? just the fact that he has raced so many cars that are hard to come by and that you don't see often, smells a little fishy to me.

I think that for me i've only seen like five or six supras on the street in my life (doesn't include at track or shows) and two of them were in the past year,
so how does he just happen to throw up a list with two turbo supras, a fairlady z, a shitload of american muscle, etc.
it just seems like he made up a wishlist of cars and said he beat them with his possibly low 14 car

alrite...if ppl wanna be cocky about shit then so be it...for one thing...ive raced so many diff cars...because im addicted to racing...its my thing...i race anything that i think has potential...id race a viper if it passed me by...cuz i dont care...MUSTANGS arent very rare...the COBRAS that i have raced were COBRAS that are owned by HILLBILLYs in my area...they may have not been the fastest year COBRAS that there are...but they were COBRAS...and the FAIRLADY Z...i saw the car the other day...and its not twin-turbo...had my hopes up...but its just some homo with a sticker...i know what i have raced....and i know what i have beat...its your choice to believe it or not...but i could care less ;)

and about the turbo sup's...they are both owned by a friend of mine...and if ur dumbass read the threads b4...i noted that they were NOT the 2jz Supras...they were the older body style TURBO SUPRAS

first of all
stop repeating this line!!!!

second of all
That ls/vtec has a lot more done to it that this guys does so if that one can run a 13.2 with those mods listed then i really really doubt this guy is beatin twin turbo Z's and cobras, etc,etc. with only 1.8l vtec engine with an SiR tranny and enlarged throttle body, ITR intake manifold, and CTR pistons (by the way do CTR pistons make 12:1 compression???).

I don't think this guy will be much faster than a type r, and i think that the ls being heavier than a type r will make up for the difference, but if he is faster than only slightly because of a little more compression.

dude i wrote this post yesterday, and don't ask me why its repeating, so piss off.
also this is only an example of what kind of potential the ls/vtec have so done take it literally. if u read the hp potential in the link it says in the all out race form, the ls/vtec can run even in the lo 11's. thats pretty damn good for a 1.8l all motor engine if u ask me.

to make every one happy i'll remove those two prior post.

and about the turbo sup's...they are both owned by a friend of mine...and if ur dumbass read the threads b4...i noted that they were NOT the 2jz Supras...they were the older body style TURBO SUPRAS

hey dude, how bout u take your car to the track and get the 1/4 mile time so we can see what kind of abilities u and the car have. next time i suggest u have the time slip ready for those nonbelievers or at least some kind of proof that u beat those cars. im curious how long that swap gonna last, i know it can be fast, but reliability is definately an issue.

alrite...if ppl wanna be cocky about shit then so be it...for one thing...ive raced so many diff cars...because im addicted to racing...its my thing...i race anything that i think has potential...id race a viper if it passed me by...cuz i dont care...


BUT are they racing you??????????

...94-98 cobras, well 94/95 were 5.0 liter, which have the potential to be beast, but they only got like 230hp stock, the 96-98 move to a 4.6 liter, with around 280hp (at the cranK) not too fast, but very respectable


You are forgetting the 94-96 SVT cobra that had 305hp those are beasts IMO for thier days anyways, I would have one :iceslolan
Also you said 13.5's in an stock automatic comaro? No way that is possible when the Comaro SS 6spd does it in 13.9 and the C5 vete hard top does it in 13.6 And that is a 6spd too, so you are tring to tell everybody that a stock automatic car that has less hp is faster? :screwy:

dude i wrote this post yesterday, and don't ask me why its repeating, so piss off.
also this is only an example of what kind of potential the ls/vtec have so done take it literally. if u read the hp potential in the link it says in the all out race form, the ls/vtec can run even in the lo 11's. thats pretty damn good for a 1.8l all motor engine if u ask me.

to make every one happy i'll remove those two prior post.



alright sorry then i thought you just kept repeating yourself or something, sorry.

And I realize that ls/vtec has alot of potential, but this thread wasn't about the potential of a ls/vtec. I was just refering to how I just can't see how with the mods he has that he beats these cars, ok maybe the z isn't turbo, and the supras aren't the fastest ones but still cobras,and the camaros he listed still put down very respectable times that I just don't see those mods making for him, maybe down the road with some more work but not now.

he even said himself he doesn't have a good header or any of that stuff.
He doesn't Have even basic bolt-ons??
think about what he said he has...
1.Enlarged throttle body
2.ITR intake manifold
3.CTR 12:1 pistons

i'm sorry but i can't believe that those three things will put him into the low 13's if it did i think alot more people would do it.
and if it did why wouldn't a type r run low 14's instead of high 14's
and why wouldn't a gs-r with itr manifold and 12:1 also run a 13????
I mean a gs-r has what 10:1? and runs mid 15's?? so those mods makes a big difference for under 1000 dollars i would guess?

and also can he even run 12:1 in that engine without it having problems really soon????

I read something the other day that said anything over 11.5 was dangerous, but I also don't believe everthing i read so maybe that was wrong.

not trying to be a dick or anything just curious and if i'm wrong correct me


and yeah definitely run your car and post a time, cuz if you hit close to a 13 with that setup then i'm doin it to

OK here's my question. Would CTR pistons even fit a B18B block ??? The B16B obviously has the smaller displacement so how would the pistons of a 1.6 fit into a 1.8 ? Maybe this is a stupid question and I got an idea how it might work but can somebody please clarify that ?

"Racing a Mustang is like beating up a kid with downs-syndrome"

I raced this kid in my completly stock 89 turbo supra. It was even in first and second then third gear he left me. I dont see how its that fast either.

OK here's my question. Would CTR pistons even fit a B18B block ??? The B16B obviously has the smaller displacement so how would the pistons of a 1.6 fit into a 1.8 ? Maybe this is a stupid question and I got an idea how it might work but can somebody please clarify that ?
The cylinder bore is the same size, the extra displacement comes from the longer stroke in the B18's

I just want to say that my car right now is capable of high 12's. I am saying that because I saw a Z28 on the list. :naughty:

"Racing a Mustang is like beating up a kid with downs-syndrome"

Put up some time slips and dyno charts or shut up.

im not sure about my car...ive beat many cars which should definitely be able to beat me...maybe its all about the drivers...but i recently pulled on a civic with a built gsr (2.0) which should have blown me away...maybe its my transmission...i dunno...people may not believe me about the cobra's or any other cars that ive raced and beat...but i guess u gotta see it to believe it...i havnt had my car to the track yet cuz it was broken down without a tranny until the track was closed...but i do plan on taking it...dunno wut time to expect tho

You aren't making any sense. Why do assume that every Honda is faster than every Ford? What's next, your Honda lawn mower is so fast that you raced it against a Ford GT and smoked it? Go buy an issue of Motor Trend or Road and Track. Flip to the back of the magazine, there you will find performance figures. By the way, your car is
1 3 y e a r s o l d ! ! ! !

:loser:

By the way, your car is
1 3 y e a r s o l d ! ! ! !

:loser:

:lol2: whoa!!!

You aren't making any sense. Why do assume that every Honda is faster than every Ford? What's next, your Honda lawn mower is so fast that you raced it against a Ford GT and smoked it? Go buy an issue of Motor Trend or Road and Track. Flip to the back of the magazine, there you will find performance figures. By the way, your car is
1 3 y e a r s o l d ! ! ! !

:loser:

wut does the fact that his car is 13 years old have to do w/ anything?

as for a "Honda lawnmower" beating a GT stang, its not unheard of.

w/ simple bolt-on's, i've taken a 96-98 GT stang, so w/ an ls vtec in his car, a win like that wouldn't be surprising at all.

im not standing up for this guy, but if u tell him not to assume every honda can take every domestic, don't assume the opposite.

btw, if u get all ur information about wut cars can do from a magazine, then ur simply a mag racer. get out...see wut cars can actually do on the street, not on paper.

im yet to lose to a mustang...in fact...i have another to add to the list that i raced last nite and smoked...dont believe it if ya want...but i could giiiiivve a shit less buddy...guess ull just have to bring ur peice of shit ford to my hometown to find out what a real car is

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as for a "Honda lawnmower" beating a GT stang, its not unheard of.

im not standing up for this guy, but if u tell him not to assume every honda can take every domestic, don't assume the opposite.
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Sorry for being confusing. I didn't mean to say that his car is a lawnmower. I appologize for that. What I was trying to say is that 90LSVtec posted a very, very long list of cars. But he hasn't posted any E.T.s. or dyno charts.
It's my opinion that the forum would be more useful to everyone if technical details were provided in order to improve the sport.

dude with what you have done to your car and considering the weight of the car plus a lsd tranny you have a very powerful combonation going on and it sounds to me that your very nice when it come to your driving skills. any bozo could have a fast car but that doesnt mean he knows how to drive it. and that could be the case with the cars you beat but i truely think your car is a real nice sleeper sweet ride

92teggsr all b series blocks have the same bore except b20 blocks which a 84 mm rather than 81 mm in a normal b series

thanks 93civicsi...its nice to hear from someone that isnt talkin shit...i appreciate it

yeh...i sometimes dont believe it myself...but ive beaten 2 cobras...they hold their own...but im guessing its mainly because i dont have to shift quite as often as them...plus its a FORD mustang
For you to beat even a GT (not to mention a cobra) the driver of the mustang must be extremely bad, or he didn't know you were racing him. Most people under the age of 40 can't afford the insurance on a cobra. The lowend torque would rip you off the line. Although, I am quite impressed with your "vtech" engines, they pack a punch. I have nothing but respect for a 4 cylinder that can stay with american muscle. My good friend drives a gs-r and he can keep up pretty good, that is untill I acctually step on the gas.

dude with what you have done to your car and considering the weight of the car plus a lsd tranny you have a very powerful combonation going on and it sounds to me that your very nice when it come to your driving skills. any bozo could have a fast car but that doesnt mean he knows how to drive it. and that could be the case with the cars you beat but i truely think your car is a real nice sleeper sweet ride
This is very true. It's all about the driver. Driving a import, and an american car is different. Personally, I'm into 1/4 mile, but I can say with extreme confidence that on a track with tight curves, or a mountain road, an import would probably rape a mustang because of the wait. However, the torque really help get mustang drivers out of jams, so it all boils down to the driver, not the HP and Torque numbers. Quarter mile we would rape you imports, in a every day street or mountain road, I have no doubt the imports could pull a win. But that's what muscle cars were made for, the track. :smokin:

You do know that you are posting in a thread that is like 7 months old right?

Yea, talk about reviving a dead thread.

Why did you put CTR pistons in instead of Si pistons? Si pistons fit LS rods while CTR ones don't, and Si pistons also give higher compression in this block. And CTR pistons do not give you 12:1 compression, who told you that? Kick them in the nuts. Dummy.

well my vtec engine beat a cobra at the track with no problems at all. because we were at the track there was no question if he knew he was racing me or not.

well my vtec engine beat a cobra at the track with no problems at all. because we were at the track there was no question if he knew he was racing me or not.

what mods do you have in your vtec ?? Im a big fan of vtec , and i hate mustangs but without a mods list your gonna get alot of these :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

im running a b20vtec with a b16 head skunk2 high cop.valves skunk2 valve springs and tit. retainers also skunk2 stage 2 cams. In the bottom end i have eagle rods and wiesco pistons cer. coated. for engine mangt. hondata,and a 50 shot.

nice i love seein built motors without turbos