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Ultimate BMW M3 Body-kit.


PhantomDesign
10-25-2003, 05:55 AM
I'm designing a bodykit for a BMW M3 (1999-recent). I don't want to twist your opinions yet, so I'm going to delay posting pictures. What would you want your BMW M3 to look like?

Thanks,
Phantom

PhantomDesign
10-26-2003, 12:55 AM
No replies? Well, here's a start...

http://www.gryphonauto.com/M3/Build18/M3-18-FrontBumper-001.jpg

MB38
10-26-2003, 02:28 PM
looks pretty cool to me. I'd love to see it plastered on an M3 model... I assume you have one on your computer.

PhantomDesign
10-27-2003, 04:01 AM
I've only got a wireframe of the default BMW, but I'm building that into a 3D model as I create the 3D bodykit.

Here’s the update….






http://www.gryphonauto.com/M3/Build31/Build31-01.jpg]Mostly complete Default Bumper (no MODs)
Same angle with MOD (http://www.gryphonauto.com/M3/Build31/Build31-02.jpg)

Different camera angle (http://www.gryphonauto.com/M3/Build31/Build31-03.jpg)

MB38
10-27-2003, 02:16 PM
I really like it. If I had an E46 M3 and a lot of cash, I'd strap it to my car.

TexasF355F1
10-27-2003, 06:55 PM
I like it. Its definately not too much.

PhantomDesign
10-28-2003, 06:22 AM
I'm glad you guys like it. Remember it is legal to critique or give suggestion about something you like.

"I really like it, but I think you need to change XXXXXX" or “This feature is cool, but you should clean it up some and it would be more awesome”

..or if you don't like it you can be honest(as long as you insulting)...
"That aint my style. Bla Bla Bla is wrong"



I'll have updates sometime soon!!!

PhantomDesign
11-10-2003, 04:50 PM
I’ve been incredibly busy with another project, but I’m back now.

I’ve cleaned the front bumper, built a little more of the car, and started the sideskirt. I’m going to add a small ‘intake’ at the back of the sideskirt, but you can sort-of see the start.

http://www.gryphonauto.com/Vehicles/BMW%20M3%20MOD/Index.htm (3rd image is the update)

molina_aitor
12-05-2003, 12:08 PM
Nice. It looks kinda like the stock one but its a lot cleaner. id certanly buy it. it looks like it belongs on the car not like other spoliers.

PhantomDesign
12-05-2003, 12:33 PM
I’m sorry I have not been able to update the BMW M3 MOD. I’ll get around to it soon enough. Feel free to check out one of my other projects while you wait. I think this one is pretty good, but I’ll let you all decide for yourselves. Not done yet, but it’ll get there eventually.

http://www.gryphonauto.com/Extra/EnigmaII-026.jpg
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Extra/EnigmaII-027.jpg

E36DJ
12-08-2003, 04:38 AM
These designs are incredible! I think you've posted on DTM Power before?

If you need a project car let me know! I can give you tips, hints.. opinions, anything. :) I also go to endless numbers of shows, and am in w/ Teckademics - you'd get a lot of exposure. ;)
[email protected]

E36DJ
12-08-2003, 04:40 AM
Ahh crap you said 99 and up, which was the last production year of the E36 body style, the kind that I have.
The E46 M3s started production in '00 (as '01 model years?) :( oh well, you should do a kit for E36s.

PhantomDesign
12-08-2003, 05:45 AM
Project Status
If this kit does good enough, I'll port it to a variety of BWM's including older M3’s, and probably M5’s also. I apologize again for the lack of updates, but I have too many projects happening. Working on one project means delaying another. I suppose what is important is that I am being productive regardless of which project I am currently working on. If I get an investor, I’ll have reason to make this first priority…which brings me to the next issue.

Investors
As a side note, I don't have any investors for this project, but everywhere I go I do see an extreme amount of interest in this kit, about 5x what I expected. I am personally amazed at the feedback, even though I practically always get good feedback on my other projects.

If any of you have connections with people who could either produce the body kit, or have extra money, please feel free to forward your connections this way. I always try to remember my friends, so make sure your connection mentions you & a method to contact you.

I do have connections which would allow me to produce the kit myself if I only has some money, but I am also open to the possibility of a stable body-kit company adding this to their product line.

Another cool project I’m working on

http://www.gryphonauto.com/Extra/EnigmaII-026.jpg
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Extra/EnigmaII-027.jpg

Those pictures are of a different project that is turning out well. I've made numerous changes since those pictures, so it should be even better when it is done.

PhantomDesign
12-08-2003, 07:15 AM
I’ve got a question for you BMW owners that would consider purchasing this kit if/when it is produced. Input from other people is good of course, but if you own a BMW, please indicate that in your response.

Replacement Parts vs. Add-on-top Parts
In context to the bodykit I am producing, would you rather have a piece to add on-top of a preexisting part or a piece to replace the preexisting part. The body-kit itself would be available in carbon fiber.

A potential client stated that BMW owners would rather have add-on-top parts than replacement parts which seemed strange to me. He also described the installation process of add-on-top parts as you glue/screw the new piece to the preexisting one. He said people would rather have add-on-top because that means they keep the kit with them. To me, this seems strange.

Replacement
Installation: Remove default piece, add new piece.
The default paneling: The default piece remains in perfect condition, and can be stored.
Style: Would allow for more flexibility, and would probably appear cleaner overall.
Weight Would reduce the weight of the car (being carbon fiber)

Add-on top
Installation: Simply screw/glue the new piece on top.
The default paneling: The preexisting piece remains on the car. It may receive damage though in the installation process.
Style: Would be forced to remain within certain constraints.
Weight Would add weight to the car.

In consideration that I would ‘remain true to the default lines and style of the BMW’ (similar to what I have been doing), it seems to me that a replacement part is a much more attractive option unless you are really lazy in which case you wouldn’t MOD your car anyway.

PhantomDesign
12-08-2003, 08:36 AM
I just motivated myself to update the sideskirt.
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Vehicles/BMW%20M3%20MOD/Index.htm
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Images/Vehicles/BMW%20M3%20MOD/006.jpg
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Images/Vehicles/BMW%20M3%20MOD/007.jpg
Any opinions?

rsjet
12-10-2003, 01:24 AM
I like your designs, especially the enigma II. But personally, I really dont like the bottom of the bumper (of the BMW bodykit) to stick out far. This was more pronounced in the first pictures, and I noticed that you changed it in the later pictures so it sticks out less. I would go even further and make it just slightly protruding if almost flush with the rest of the bumper.

Keep up the good work, your quite an artist. :grinno:

PhantomDesign
12-10-2003, 01:41 AM
Thanks dude

Project Update: I'm going to be doing the E36 instead of the E46. After reviewing the market, that looks like my best option. I may come back and do the E46 later though.

The front bumper will be replaced fairly soon. The reason it is like that is mostly due to bad advice from the client I was initially with.

PhantomDesign
12-15-2003, 05:13 AM
Some quick notes... (sorry if I am repeating anything)

I changed my mind about which BMW I'll be doing first. It appears that the E36 is a bigger market, so that is where I'll be starting first. If the E36 kits sell well, I'll also do the kit for the E46, and after that I may start the BMW M5.
The front Bumper has been remade. Any feedback would be great, but I’m currently thinking the front bumper is too simple. Also, I’d like some feedback on that horizontal ‘divider’ in intake on the bumper in the middle.
I shrunk the sideskirt slightly. I may make it larger again.
I’m fairly certain I do have an investor, and I’m very certain that I will be making this kit.


Update…

http://www.gryphonauto.com/Images/Vehicles/BMW%20M3%20MOD/X-009.jpg

PhantomDesign
12-15-2003, 02:53 PM
Well, since everything is starting to fall into place everywhere, I’m motivated again to get back to work. Here’s the start of the rear.


http://www.gryphonauto.com/Images/Vehicles/BMW%20M3%20MOD/X-010.jpg

If anyone would like to be added to my Newsletter, send an email to [email protected] saying you’d like to be added….or PM me with your email address. I keep your info confidential of course. If you don’t know what the newsletter is for, check out my design work at www.GryphonAuto.com

I try to keep everyone updated but loose track of so many people. You’ll receive updated only occasionally, but when I have a cool new release like anew car design or a video…or whenever the BMW kit is built (crosses fingers).

BiMMa b0i M3
12-29-2003, 05:15 AM
your front bumper is replica of the E46 M3 front bumper, but its just modified around the edges. nothing new.

DinanM3_S2
08-22-2004, 11:06 PM
I like the CSL look...

M3modmaster
12-07-2004, 05:46 PM
yha i like ur designs i suppose you have a background in engineering, but if you need help with actual manufacturing and mold copy HOLLA.

PhantomDesign
12-11-2004, 11:41 AM
Hey, what’s up?

Sorry about neglecting this project. I don’t know if or when I’ll be able to get back to it. I’m a little too ambitious for my own good, so sometimes I often start more projects than I have the time to complete.

http://www.gryphonauto.com/vehicles/BMW%20M3/images/009.jpg

http://www.gryphonauto.com/vehicles/BMW%20M3/images/008.jpg

http://www.gryphonauto.com/vehicles/BMW%20M3/images/007.jpg

If or when I update it, any updates should appear at this link.
http://www.gryphonauto.com/vehicles/BMW%20M3/index.htm


M3modmaster – Send me an email (http://www.gryphonauto.com/contact/index.htm) if you’re interested in actually making a body kit for the BMW M3. I’d be willing to finish up the kit design if a body-kit company offered me a reasonable deal.

Jaguar D-Type
06-01-2005, 06:42 PM
The best body kit for an M3 would be a CSL body kit. A lot of other body kits for the M3 are rice.

M3 Special
10-08-2005, 10:06 PM
what about the GTR bodykit? it looks damn good.

AbsoluteGTR
06-19-2006, 10:11 PM
Good job of bringing up a 2yr old thread...Please pay attention to the dates from now on...thank you.

PhantomDesign
06-20-2006, 08:05 AM
Good job of bringing up a 2yr old thread...Please pay attention to the dates from now on...thank you.
Looking at post dates, I think it was you that dug up an old thread. :banghead:

P.S. Just a little update for those who are interested, I recently found a great job & am saving up my own money so I can pay for the production of anything I want without having to depend on unreliable kit companies.

AbsoluteGTR
06-20-2006, 01:10 PM
Actually I didnt. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: There was a post right before mine, that dated 06-13-2006. I guess the member deleted it. Plus, it would not have been at the very top of the very first page in bold...which signifies a new post has been added.

I'm not an idiot, I know how the system works.

PS: You should probably link to some new working links, I would have liked to see the first stages of this project...looks and seems pretty cool.

GloriaJeans
12-05-2006, 08:14 PM
Phantom: Looks very nice, and a good choice of color!

I hope you will share your final results!!!

bmw316
12-02-2007, 02:59 AM
check out wide body kits for m3 on forumdig: bmw m3 wide body kit (http://forumdig.com/search.aspx?q=bmw+m3+wide+body+kit)

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