Some drawings for sale

Hey guys,
The time has come for me to clean out my portfolio and I've chosen these pieces to be at the top of the list. I'm not sure why I chose these pieces, I think they were just on the top of all my other work, haha. Anyways, if anyone is interested in purchasing these original drawings I'd be glad to let them go for a reasonable price. Also, if anyone has any requests for any other car, bike, or truck that they would like drawn, I would be glad to draw them for cost as well. Please take me seriously because I am literally a poor college student just trying to get by, haha. I go to Ringling School of Art and Design in Sarasota Florida and just need to get rid of some stuff, so please contact me. Thanks!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/attaches/77846/31420.attach

http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/bike1small.jpg

Are those hand drawn? because, no offence they look like there just printed in black and white, the lines are too perfect. But if you did free hand them, your are my hero

haha, i had the same idea as you, sell drawings, but then i'd have to work on them and make em good, and i have no time :(

holy crap your good...i thought mine were pretty good but yours are awsome

lol...these so arent hand drawn!...ya really think sum 1 well buy em?

lol...these so arent hand drawn!...ya really think sum 1 well buy em?

i like guys like you :rolleyes: they always seem to be screaming that someone who can do something better than them is cheating :rolleyes:

How can you think it's not hand drawn? Look carfully at the shadows, shading, and the wheel wells. Also, there is no ground in the motorbike pic. Definately hand drawn. :disappoin

Im sorry...maybe I spoke a lil too fast. But consider zoomin in and maybe you will see things differently...I mean capturing such "microscopic" detail (check out the wheels on the bike, the letters which you have to zoom in 500% to read and the fact that they are perfectly alligned ) is pretty damn remarkable for a drawing. I dunno how he does it- but I sure would like to!

Whoa, thats crazy. Can you show some others too?

Why do you guys just assume that those aren't hand drawn. Some people have talent. Why do you guys have to hate on him for that?

come on guys, please have some respect. anyways, for those who still don't believe me, here is a picture i took while in progress of the rx-7. this picture is after i finished all the solid black color with a sharpie.

http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/rx7-progress1.jpg

here are some more progress pictures that i took while i was rendering the car itself.

http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/rx7progress.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/rx7progress2.jpg

Now hopefully you guys believe me, thanks.

my appologies- ure good! very good!...how did u make ur things so detailed? and what materials did u use? (btw...I didnt know that u took the picture and rendered it...I thought that u drew that whole thing...mayeb that explains the small details...)

I took a picture of my best friends car (1994 Mazda RX-7) and enlarged the print to the size of what the drawing is today, about 15" x 6". I started with a very light sketch with a 2H pencil to get all the proportions down and correct. I then took a sharpie and filled all the flat black areas in as you see in the first progress picture. The rendering of the body came next as you can see and i used 2H, HB, and 2B pencils for the rendering while also using a blending stub to get the smooth contours. Any other questions let me know.

A Sharpie? DANG man. I could never do that. I make so many mistakes it would take forever. Great work, and you just OWNED everyone that said you didn't make it.:lol:

hey guys sorry but you guys got me all upset saying it wasn't real, so i decided to go into the lab today and scan the drawing of the rx7 and show close up views in high res so here ya go.

http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/art/rx7/back.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/art/rx7/frontleft.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/art/rx7/frontwheel.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/art/rx7/headlight.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/art/rx7/rearwheel.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/art/rx7/topmiddle.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/pics6/art/rx7/wholerx7.jpg

its cool...I totally believe in ur talent- this was a misunderstanding cuz
I thought that u had actally drawn the whole thing! But ur renderin is amazin!

what you probably did was trace the outline of the car and then hand-rendered it. it is still amazing, btw. if you could not draw to begin with, then you could not render it.

this is a common technique of illustrators. especially "photorealist" painters. they usually compose their own photographs, blow them up huge, trace the outlines thinly from a slide or onto vellum, then render, in paint, or whatever, the excruciating details. this type of artist actually can usually draw the car perfectly anyway without aid of the tracing. but it is an instant path to the proportions so the real effort can be put into the rendering, ie, the shading and the creation of the form. and often lighting f/x.

most of the "great masters" acutally traced the outlines of their paintings, too, with a "cartoon." they would hand draw a person or whatever in pencil on a huge piece of paper. they would then punch tiny holes all around the drawing. next, they would "pounce" with chalk dust the dots onto the canvas. and that would be their guide for rendering. they also used the "camera obscura." but they were all master draftsmen. the techique is only for convenience/mechanical purposes. it is not really "cheating" per se.

great stuff.

what you probably did was trace the outline of the car and then hand-rendered it. it is still amazing, btw. if you could not draw to begin with, then you could not render it.

this is a common technique of illustrators. especially "photorealist" painters. they usually compose their own photographs, blow them up huge, trace the outlines thinly from a slide or onto vellum, then render, in paint, or whatever, the excruciating details. this type of artist actually can usually draw the car perfectly anyway without aid of the tracing. but it is an instant path to the proportions so the real effort can be put into the rendering, ie, the shading and the creation of the form. and often lighting f/x.

most of the "great masters" acutally traced the outlines of their paintings, too, with a "cartoon." they would hand draw a person or whatever in pencil on a huge piece of paper. they would then punch tiny holes all around the drawing. next, they would "pounce" with chalk dust the dots onto the canvas. and that would be their guide for rendering. they also used the "camera obscura." but they were all master draftsmen. the techique is only for convenience/mechanical purposes. it is not really "cheating" per se.

great stuff.


I have said this before, excellent RX-7 brad311.

I agree w/ Bonzelite, except for one thing, very few people can draw perfectly including professionals. I consider my-self a very good free-hand drawer, but I use grids for cars. Time = money for graphic artists and etc. They will use the tools that get the job done the fastest, that includes tracing w/ a projector if need be. I have full plans on buying a projector and tracing. :)

C ya

alfred

ok hi, my names Brian, i am an ILLUSTRATION major at the Ringling School of Art and Design. This is one of the top 5 art schools in the country. Please don't tell me how I drew this piece. As I said before, I took a picture of my friends car and had a 4x6 picture. I gridded it off by laying down a transparency over the picture and enlarged it just by enlarging the grid on the paper so it was 15x6. So there was NO tracing, just an enlarged grid.

brsad311,

i believe you, man. i was searching for an answer. what you did is great. what got me to thinking that you used mechanical means *somewhere*, as you did with a grid, is that your proportions are nearly perfect. and that is rare to do freehand. you did not do this car freehand, by the way. you used a grid. and that is mechanical. but it is all good, dude. like i said, if you could not draw to begin with, you could not have rendered it like that. i am complimenting you no matter what.

as a storyboard artist and production illustrator myself, i don't give one d*mn how i arrive at the final product. the client wants their deadline met. no matter what. and i am not a "purist" when it comes to commercial art. or any art, for that matter. if you are not talented to begin with, then you cannot manipulate tools effectively anyway.

ok hi, my names Brian, i am an ILLUSTRATION major at the Ringling School of Art and Design. This is one of the top 5 art schools in the country. Please don't tell me how I drew this piece. As I said before, I took a picture of my friends car and had a 4x6 picture. I gridded it off by laying down a transparency over the picture and enlarged it just by enlarging the grid on the paper so it was 15x6. So there was NO tracing, just an enlarged grid.


Perhaps there is some confusion. I didn't mean I aggreed with the comment about you tracing it (Bonzelite's post). I know you didn't trace it.

My bad

alfred

PS: There is nothing to be ashamed about if you did trace it....Just kidding...hee hee :iceslolan

also, the whole tracing thing is not negative. if you as an artist cannot draw anyway, tracing will not do you much good -it will look like crap- especially if you cannot render (filling in the tone and textures and details, lighting f/x, etc.) i trace sometimes. and i have no problem with that; who cares.

in fact, for a student, the use of grids and tracings only HELPS train the physiology to see and move properly. for the professional, it is a huge time-saver. a grid is a good short-cut to getting all proportions correct and in relative correctness to every other area. it is a step removed from tracing.

the real "proof in the pudding" is when all aids are removed except for paper and pencil with nothing else except for the naked eye to visualize the "grid." and you are then told to draw random things from your imagination.

with cars, since those are so specific and mechanical, it is a BETTER idea to, whenever possible, trace them, copy them, project them, do anything to get them looking like the manufactured design. nearly all of the master car illustrators of past and of our own time do just that. it is what they bring to the table beyond their reference aids, ie, style, composition of entire scene, expert rendering skill, action, mood, emotional effect, that sets them apart from the amateur.

to strengthen the physiology of the eye and drawing arm, drawing cars without any aid from life, with a pen, is the best "boot camp." then move on to animals and people and plants - IMO, far more difficult than drawing boxes with circle shapes.

some artists are out-of-the-box gifted at drawing people and organic things and they struggle with machinery. others are more mechanically inclined and must try very hard at drawing muscles (like me). some do both equally as well early on - very rare.

I took a picture of my best friends car (1994 Mazda RX-7) and enlarged the print to the size of what the drawing is today, about 15" x 6".
WOW you took that picture... looks just like the pic on www.autogalerie.org/.... in fact... there one in the same... but who gives a crap... awesome drawing although i cant see the bike cuz the server is too busy or sumthin on angelfinre

That's kinda funny that you found that web site. I can't believe his friend has a right hand drive rx7. It's a good drawing, but why say you drew your friends car when it's obviously this one.
http://new202.lifeforce.de/Galerie/Mazda/RX7/Mazda_RX7_032.jpg

i based it "around" my friends car, check it out here...not like i care if you guys don't believe me

http://giniro-oni.com/tomfiles/rx-7/2003-07-10_konig-rims/

Yes, ok, everyone just realize, he DID draw it, he DID BASE it on his friend's car. It's also obvious he used that picture that was posted a few posts above this one. So yeah, now that's over with, lets get back to the reason this topic was made in the first place.

How much are you drawings selling for?

Yes, ok, everyone just realize, he DID draw it, he DID BASE it on his friend's car. It's also obvious he used that picture that was posted a few posts above this one. So yeah, now that's over with, lets get back to the reason this topic was made in the first place.

How much are you drawings selling for?
yea those drawings are amazing how much u want ( my dad has an rx7 and wants a drawing)

Thank guys for everything, i appreciate it alot. Anyways, I'm not sure how much I'd be willing to let this go for. I'm thinking that I will mount it and put it in a frame and sell it somewhere around $50-$100 depending on if more than one person wants it. You guys know how supply and demand works right? haha. Thanks again.

so is no one interested? make some offers if you really want it

anyone interested? im a poor college student in need of some $. I'll take requests too if anyone needs anything drawn like this. Thanks alot

Brian

How Much? I'm interested in having a drawing of an old car of mine done in 3 different views.

The illustrations are from your portfolio? Why do you keep them, they might be of some use to you in the future, if your are looking for some extra dough you can always post one of your works in grocery stores and others places in your neighborhood you might be surprised at the number of responses you receive.

thanks for the responses guys. for 3 views of your old car i think ill charge you something like...$100. let me know what you think ok? im thinking 3 views of your car all pencil and each view on 18 x 24 inch bond paper. let me know. thanks

i was thinking one big view in the middle and 2 small views in each corner on one sheet of board.

How much for one drawing of a subaru WRX sti on a normal size sheet of paper?

normal size sheet of paper? you mean like 8.5 x 11? or 11 x 17? the 8.5 x 11 would be $20 and the 11 x 17 would be $30. Thanks

how much including shipping and proper packaging. i live in canada

hrmm actually...........how much for one motorcycle drawing with shipping + packaging. i want 11x17 and if i get one done, how long will it take and would you take money order

lets see...11x17 drawing+shipping+packaging, i think that $60 would be enough. a bike is really intricate to draw because of all the tiny details. so after recieving the picture, i would say it would take about a week for the drawing to be completed and maybe 4 days for shipping maybe? I'd be glad to make any different arrangements if you'd like. thanks

Brian