EvoVIII vs. 02 SS

Finally got one ...

Had a really long and shitty workday today, so I was looking to releave some tension in the car. I'm cruising home on California at a leisurely 30-35mph when I hear a blowoff valve go off to my right. The guy stays behind me for a while in my blindspot. We approach a stoplight so he decides to punch it, cut into my lane, and make a left turn onto Lake... red EvoVIII ... It's ON :iceslolan . I punch it, he gets to the stop light and pulls a pretty tight left turn. I get there and have to brake because there was oncoming traffic. I wait till it clears then make my turn giving it a bit too much throttle. The rear end breaks loose so I get sideways for a bit. I recover and see he is stuck at the next light in front of Border's books. I slow as I get near to a 10mph roll. The light turn green right as I catch up to him. We both proceed to roll at about 10-15, I'm about a foot in front as I rolled through the light. We make it thru the intersection then both punch it. My tires let out a short YELP instantly allowing him to pull a fender on me. The tires finally grab and we stay that way for half of my 1st gear. I start inching him at the higher RPMs. Top of first he's at my window. Second kicks in and we hold steady for a bit. Midway thru 2nd gear he starts to fade quickly, he enters my blindspot. We run for ~2 blocks, I get to the top of second (~85mph) and I pull maybe a 1/4-1/2 car on him. I slam on the brakes and he switches lanes and turns right on Del Mar.

I'm quite pleased with my car, I thought for sure the EVO would edge me out in the 1/8. :smokin:

CLIFFNOTES:
EVO8 vs. 02 LS6 cammed SS Camaro
10mph roll, EVO pulls a fender on the launch
Cars remain even thru most of my 1st gear,
Evo inched from ~4-6kRPM in 1st.
Evo pulled from ~4-6k RPM in 2nd.
Ran for two blocks to top of 2nd gear (~1/8 mi./~85mph) pulled 1/4-1/2 car on the EVO

Good kill! Although not to be a party-pooper or anything, if he had actually launched at the light, you would have had to play catch-up a bit longer. You'll edge him out, eventually, but just saying...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Good kill! Although not to be a party-pooper or anything, if he had actually launched at the light, you would have had to play catch-up a bit longer. You'll edge him out, eventually, but just saying...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/tongue.gif

:iagree:

nice run tho buddy. sounds like u've got urself a "quick" lil SS there (as if there were such a thing as a slow one...)

thx for the cliffnotes...i think more ppl need to use them ::cough:: carnuttttt ::cough:: :biggrin:

Finally got one ...

Had a really long and shitty workday today, so I was looking to releave some tension in the car. I'm cruising home on California at a leisurely 30-35mph when I hear a blowoff valve go off to my right. The guy stays behind me for a while in my blindspot. We approach a stoplight so he decides to punch it, cut into my lane, and make a left turn onto Lake... red EvoVIII ... It's ON :iceslolan . I punch it, he gets to the stop light and pulls a pretty tight left turn. I get there and have to brake because there was oncoming traffic. I wait till it clears then make my turn giving it a bit too much throttle. The rear end breaks loose so I get sideways for a bit. I recover and see he is stuck at the next light in front of Border's books. I slow as I get near to a 10mph roll. The light turn green right as I catch up to him. We both proceed to roll at about 10-15, I'm about a foot in front as I rolled through the light. We make it thru the intersection then both punch it. My tires let out a short YELP instantly allowing him to pull a fender on me. The tires finally grab and we stay that way for half of my 1st gear. I start inching him at the higher RPMs. Top of first he's at my window. Second kicks in and we hold steady for a bit. Midway thru 2nd gear he starts to fade quickly, he enters my blindspot. We run for ~2 blocks, I get to the top of second (~85mph) and I pull maybe a 1/4-1/2 car on him. I slam on the brakes and he switches lanes and turns right on Del Mar.

I'm quite pleased with my car, I thought for sure the EVO would edge me out in the 1/8. :smokin:

CLIFFNOTES:
EVO8 vs. 02 LS6 cammed SS Camaro
10mph roll, EVO pulls a fender on the launch
Cars remain even thru most of my 1st gear,
Evo inched from ~4-6kRPM in 1st.
Evo pulled from ~4-6k RPM in 2nd.
Ran for two blocks to top of 2nd gear (~1/8 mi./~85mph) pulled 1/4-1/2 car on the EVO



Nice run bro. Tho you should have had him from 10mph, if your in the 300+ hp range. Those 16g's dont usually spool up to 16 or 19psi till 3500 rmps. The 2 evos I run with never take me from a roll at 10mph untill the top of 2nd gear, its just not there power point. You must be packin some serious power bro. None the less another evo goes down..

Nice kill, danno. Did that LS6 cam void the warrantee? Can the dealer even tell that you have the cam ? And did you have to pull the motor for the cam swap?

Great race!

I've been so use to the one sided battles that hearing a close race between two great cars is really refreshing.

nice run, nice kill
i'd like to catch one of those guys on the street myself :naughty:
its kinda cool to beat the new buly's on the block :smokin:

How long are you planning on having that engine with running 2nd gear :eek: to 85 mph???

I trapped my SS at 105.5 mph in the quarter and was just ready to shift to 4th then. Now what if there's a true LS6 in your future :naughty:

How long are you planning on having that engine with running 2nd gear :eek: to 85 mph???




I guess he can pull that off cause he's got the A4 tranny.

Shit, why didn't I see that? Damn, I need some sleep...

Nice kill, danno. Did that LS6 cam void the warrantee? Can the dealer even tell that you have the cam ? And did you have to pull the motor for the cam swap?

Yeah, if the dealer finds out it's in there I can kiss the warranty goodbye. The cam idles just like a stock LS1 cam so the dealer won't be able to tell unless he takes it out. It is a real mild cam that only offers good gains at higher (4k+)RPMs. I'm still running with the stock LS1 shift points (~5.9k RPMs) so I'm loosing some of its potential. The LS6 guys I've talked to all recommend upping the shift RPMs above 6300. The cam peaks at 6250 and is pretty flat up to 6500. I don't want to risk valve float so I won't set them that high (prolly 6350). I didn't do the cam install myself, no tools or knowledge , but here's a linky to a how-to site. That doesn't look too difficult. You just remove all of the thing-a-maging's from the front, take out the old one and slip in the new one :bloated:.
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=23

Nice race Danno SS.

First I must say I have always liked the SS over any other V8 out there. Good choice. When you raced the Evo was he at a dead stop or was he also at a roll? The Evo's strength is the launch. In August at California Speedway's Drag strip I ran a 13.718 @100.28 in my evo with a 1.8 second 60' . There was a mod'd SS that beat a new Z06 there also. I'm just happy to know that I can keep up with an SS period. Great car.

Now that this has been brought to the top, where's Jared 80 on this? I've been arguing with him in the Muscle Car forum about Evo VIII's the past couple of days....

Good kill, 1 question though? Why is your car only dynoing at 306 rwhp w/ a LS6 cam in it?????????

That's a good question, you should be dynoing higher than my car without that cam in it...

He categorized the dyno numbers under "stock" on his sig...which should explain it nicely...;)

Nice job bro, Camaro's rule, nothin else to say

I guess he can pull that off cause he's got the A4 tranny.
hehe I seen my brothers Lt1 with a 4l60e up in the 90's with 2nd gear lol, I couldn't quite believe it.

Ya that evo woulda toasted you if it was a stock for stock race hehe. Also from a stop to top speed I think the evo would have also won. His AWD launch gives em the benefit of doubt if he launches it real hard on the real low end, in the middle the v8 has its torque to compensate that for, but on the top end the EVO's turbo will be humming away at high RPM's and its Launch advantage will be was gives it the win at top speed. just MHO.

Nice job bro, Camaro's rule, nothin else to say


YAAA !!!! CAMARO'S!!!!!!!!!! LS1!! YAAAAA.. THEY RULLLLEE!!!!







hahahahahahaha.


Also from a stop to top speed I think the evo would have also won.


Man, I think that'd be a pretty interesting race. :icon16: I'm kinda voting for the stock LS1 to pull ahead slightly near the end though.

I'm kinda voting for the stock LS1 to pull ahead slightly near the end though.

SLIGHTLY?

You kidding me? ;)

If slightly is 4-5 cars ahead, then yah slightly.

Maybe against an LT1...but not against an LS1.

Shoulda found a 2003 Camaro SS with an LS6 to race with, then there would be no doubt...

Nice race Danno SS.

First I must say I have always liked the SS over any other V8 out there. Good choice. When you raced the Evo was he at a dead stop or was he also at a roll? The Evo's strength is the launch. In August at California Speedway's Drag strip I ran a 13.718 @100.28 in my evo with a 1.8 second 60' . There was a mod'd SS that beat a new Z06 there also. I'm just happy to know that I can keep up with an SS period. Great car.

Slight roll about 10-15mph, that's the only reason I didn't spin like crazy and I guess he wasn't in his power band. 13.718 is a great time for Fontana (it's hotter than hell there). Back in August the temps were about 95-100 deg out. The best I've run there (July) with LID and K&N as only mods is a [email protected] with a 2.273 60'. I went down to Carlsbad two weeks ago to get an idea of the cam gains. I ran a [email protected] with a 2.315 60'.
They might be re-opening Fontana up soon for the winter schedule (the new lights are almost done). Hope to see you out there.

Yeah Danno--you are right about the weather in Fontana. I ran out there in August and it was hot and there was also a noticeable headwind--sure to slow trapspeeds and ET's. 13.4 is a great time at Carlsbad--how did you like the off-roading to get to the track? Hopefully they'll open Fontana for the winter--nice cool weather.

Slight roll about 10-15mph, that's the only reason I didn't spin like crazy and I guess he wasn't in his power band. 13.718 is a great time for Fontana (it's hotter than hell there). Back in August the temps were about 95-100 deg out. The best I've run there (July) with LID and K&N as only mods is a [email protected] with a 2.273 60'. I went down to Carlsbad two weeks ago to get an idea of the cam gains. I ran a [email protected] with a 2.315 60'.
They might be re-opening Fontana up soon for the winter schedule (the new lights are almost done). Hope to see you out there.
Yeah my best for Fontana is a 14.1 sec. 1/4 mile at 104 mph N/A(My car is set to run rich for the juice, and I think it kinda robs the power N/A). On the juice I ran 13.1 sec. 1/4 mile at 113 mph. I had a horrible 2.3 sec. 60'.

Yeah Danno--you are right about the weather in Fontana. I ran out there in August and it was hot and there was also a noticeable headwind--sure to slow trapspeeds and ET's. 13.4 is a great time at Carlsbad--how did you like the off-roading to get to the track? Hopefully they'll open Fontana for the winter--nice cool weather.

I despise that track. You have to get your tires all full of dirt before you get on the track (yeah, that makes sense :rolleyes: ). It's only saving grace is that it's almost at sea-level and the temps are cooler that Inland but that really doesn't help you much if you can't get any traction. I ran a 13.875@102 w/ 2.306 60' stock back in april at Carlsbad. I hope Fontana opens soon, these cool temps and low humidity should put me in the low 13s.



Yeah my best for Fontana is a 14.1 sec. 1/4 mile at 104 mph N/A(My car is set to run rich for the juice, and I think it kinda robs the power N/A). On the juice I ran 13.1 sec. 1/4 mile at 113 mph. I had a horrible 2.3 sec. 60'.


That's an M6 right? I've yet to see a stockish A4 LS1 trap over 102.8 at the track. Work on that 60' and you'll definitely see twelve's. The best 60' I've gotten at Fontana on street tires is a 2.199. That would have put you at a 12.9-13.0. With your MPH you should be mid to low 12s.

Yeah that track really stinks for traction, as does LACR. I will be going to Carlsbad on Saturday, for some sea level times. Anyone here is welcome to come. I really hope that it doesn't rain. I know i'll see 12's, just dunno where in the 12's I will be.

Camaro's do dominiate, especially 98-02 SS's, with 325 stock horses, its fuckin badass, I love those cars and hopefully will have one this spring, weather it be LT1 or LS1

Just a note. when the evo was tested in a sport compact mag it's 1/4 mile time was quite a bit slower at roll-on speed.

Shoulda found a 2003 Camaro SS with an LS6 to race with, then there would be no doubt...

didnt they discontinue the camaro after 2002?
~graham~

That WAS the joke, thank you :rofl: :sunglasse

There was a running joke on the SLP board after it was announced that the F-body was being discontinued that there was proof that it wasn't, and that it was a 2003 Purple SS with an LS6 in it...