Uncle ben's....?

Alright what is the definition of "Rice". Is it wrong to make your car different from the norm or what? Here is my car that I'm making for show, there will be some performance parts like a stage 2 turbo from hahn, but mostly a show car.....ummm.....yeah I couldn't really find another way to show my car other than the link so if that doesn't work then let me know.


http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/black_dain/lst?.dir=/%27D%27+2K3&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/

my definition of rice is, if you pay for something thats doesn't improve performance, reliability or safety, its rice

being a ricer is just a phase you go through, you'll grow out of it eventually.
some do sooner than other

I had strobes at one time :wink:

I think the above definition is a bit unfair. Some poeple modify thier cars to look good (in thier own standards sometimes ;) ), which is a perfectly legitimate hobby. The way I see it is this. You can make your car "go fast," and you can make your car "look good." Its the people that try to make thier cars "look fast" that are the ricers. ;)

LOL, thats a good definition

I'd defninitely have to say rice is kind of a phase too. On that note though, if you do something to your car to make it look different, and you like it, then thats ok, but at the same time, if you're doing it just cause other people do it, then its definitely rice. Also, putting v-tec stickers on your non-vtec honda and so on is definitely rice. Typically, most people who put stuff on their cars that doesn't increase performance fall into that category. Just today I was at Meijer getting food and in the middle of the parking lot there was this beat up cavalier, maybe 96ish, with euro lights, a huge tip, as well as cheap wheel covers blaring either a stock or really crappy stereo while just sitting there. To me, thats rice. But if changing the looks of your car was always rice, then there woudln't be car shows, so I think it just takes moderation for daily drivers and some sense of style for people that show their cars. Oh, that also reminds me of the mustang that was revving at my friend's hemi the other day, it had a full body kit and a v8 hood with racing stripes! For that kind of money he could have bought the v8 and still painted it, or supercharged it, but instead he had to cruise up and down the street being a bum in what I would call a ricer, even though its domestic.

oh but don't forget.....adding stickers and half-@$$ paint and steering wheel covers and crappy looking seat covers adds to the horsepower of the car and actually makes it faster...or at least thats what this one guy in a beat up old ford Contour thought...? I saw this car on this one street where people go at night to race/show off their cars yesterday and he had a wing on the back which caught my eye. Then I saw his terrible paint job to begin with, and the painted-over taillights with black spraypaint and the overspray on the trunk and side. he had a white car with a black hood and on it he had stickers like "import racer" and "nos" and a bunch of others on the fenders, then he had the pep-boys "fast and furious" graphics on the sides. I guess he thought it was a pretty quick car especially with the big fat huge exhaust......bolt-on TIP. Anyways he wanted to run it when i was next to it, he kept revving, but then there was a lot of traffic and I didnt get to waste him(wait...i mean we didnt get to race lol). Anyways, I would definetly call that "rice" because it does absolutely nothing for the car, and it more or less looks like crap because it appears cluttered and unclean. So I guess that could be another definition of rice, stuff that makes the car look cluttered and unclean. But then again on my car, I have a blue eclipse, so I bought that blue wire loom and put that on some wires and hoses in my engine and i painted the valve and spark plug covers. Then I have a big sticker of a dragon on my "different color than car" carbon fiber hood. I guess that could be counted as rice. I think the definition of rice is how far you go on putting non-performance stuff all over your car. I think the definition varies with different people.

Alright what is the definition of "Rice". Is it wrong to make your car different from the norm or what? Here is my car that I'm making for show, there will be some performance parts like a stage 2 turbo from hahn, but mostly a show car.....ummm.....yeah I couldn't really find another way to show my car other than the link so if that doesn't work then let me know.


http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/black_dain/lst?.dir=/%27D%27+2K3&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/


Id say my car is alittle riced out. But who cares, Ill share my rice with anyone!!! And its not uncle bens its spanish rice... tastes alot better!

A ricer is definitely most of the people who watch fast and the furious and try to be like that. Don't get me wrong, I watch it too but what sets the ricers apart is the fact that they do not know anything about cars. They will act like they do and they probably wouldn't even try to learn. Most ricers are ignorant and think that a stock car with a front air dam and a couple of decals will help them bag some girls. They eventually grow out of the stage when a true racer ends up blowing the paint off of their car. Ricers also think that their car is god's gift to the world. I've seen a buddy of mine race his mustang gt with mods such as exhaust, new rear end, etc. against a kid who was talking trash cause his girlfriend was in the car. The problem is that he was driving a civic with an intake. Well, I don't have to say what happened after that. When it comes to music I think a ricer turns up the bass on his stock system and tries to bump it. Do not bump a system until you can put the volume on zero and your sub are still making bass. I hate rice and I am asain. What a shame.

Hmmm..... interesting the varied opinions on the san francisco treat. Anyway if you look at the link I posted you can see what I started with and why I had to get rid of it, even though at the time I had no idea what GS, RS, or GST meant. I regret (severely) buying a GS and had fourmulated a plan to get the turbo from hahnracecraft.com, but I kept getting these horrible comments on the car, so in "rice" fashion I went and got the body kit from wings west and had a custom paint job. What do you think of it ?

Also I'll be the first to admit my car is slow....for now. I just needed to get a start. I'll finish the body kit then start with the turbo and cat-back (any suggestions?) cold air, ecu tien suspesion with edfc and such...... and I know this has been asked on this board a thousand times but has anyone experienced problems rolling 18's, and what did you do to correct?

To me rice is things like wings on fwd cars, graphics, chrome rims, color-matching interiors, leds, etc. Ie. anthing that does not improve peformance. But, however, I do not feel as though ricing out a car is a bad thing. It's perfectly fine imho. It's just, alot of morons who have watched F&F a few too many times, think that by ricing a car up will make it fast. Their the ones that give the show-car scene a bad name. They go whipping around cars like monkeys, reving at Vipers, Corvettes, etc., acting like hardcore thugs(but if they actually got ahold of a loaded automatic, they'd blow their feet off), saying things like, "Domestics are wack!", shit like that. I see this all the time in my town & it almost makes me feel ashamed that I'm going show on my car. But, I feel that it's my car & I will do to it as I want to. They can call me a pussy all they want for not racing, but I frankly don't care.
But to get back on topic, rice is sorta a way of personalizing your car. I love dragons so I put some dragon graphics on this sides of car. Is it rice? Of course. Do I like it? Of course. Is it my car? Of course & so on. Do as you want to your car & don't ever let other people's opinions get to you.

reving at Vipers, Corvettes, etc., acting like hardcore thugs

The best defense against the ricer rev is the stutter box, especially combined with antilag. When the ricer next to me at the light revs and looks at me with that stupid face, I just bounce it off the 5500 rpm launch limit. The horrendous noise it makes usually makes them wonder what they have gotten themselves into :grinno: A massive turbo slowly spooling up more and more with each "pop" sounds a bit unusual as well, for a street car. Too much fun.... Bring it on ricers :loser:

i murdered a ricer this weekend.lol. i had pulled into "the lot" and was talking to my friends, when i heard this exhaust rev. i was like who the hell is reving up there god damn rice. then i saw it was this kid that was in my auto class my senior year. made me laugh. he has like an 02 grand-am GT with ram air, well then he put an exhaust and intake on, claimed he threw a computer on and changed fuel curves, and transmission shift points, oh and by the way he has a wal-mart under car neon kit, walmart strobes, and home cut vinyl flames on his hood. anyway i finally raced him. it wasnt even funny. i had him by a car length of the line, and 4-6 lenghts when i let off...way before the 1/4 was up. we were on a seldom used, wild game infested highway. but i will give the kid his do, he thanked me for kicking his ass, and was cool about losing.

but i will give the kid his do, he thanked me for kicking his ass, and was cool about losing.

A tip for all you ricers out there: Giving that little bit of courtesy as shown in the example above can redeem all but the riciest of ricers. When I get beat, I do the same thing. The last guy to beat me though did so with a 8.9 to my 11.9, and I didnt get a chance to shake his hand. He was too busy winning the class I guess :lol:

I always thought that...all Japanese cars were rice, I guess...I was wrong. :lol2:

so the hahn stage 2 bolts up to the 4G64 also?
or they have a different kit for that?

so the hahn stage 2 bolts up to the 4G64 also?
or they have a different kit for that?


Where O where did my signature go? Damnit oh well. Time to get to work to add more rice to the ol spyder...

Where O where did my signature go? Damnit oh well. Time to get to work to add more rice to the ol spyder...

Good idea, wow my sig shows up, darm i'm good :sunglasse

Good idea, wow my sig shows up, darm i'm good :sunglasse

Have I ever said how nice your eclipse is? Well I never said it cause its one of the uglyest ones ive ever seen..! Naw j/k. Nice color and very clean. peace!

so the hahn stage 2 bolts up to the 4G64 also?
or they have a different kit for that?

Many people just convert the 2.4 to a 4g63 head and use all turbo 2g parts to turbo it. Should be much cheaper than a kit, but you need to have an idea of what you are doing. People have put sites together on the subject though, the info is out there. People with 4g63s are doing the same thing to, to get a 2.4 liter in the car ;)

my definition of rice is, if you pay for something thats doesn't improve performance, reliability or safety, its rice

being a ricer is just a phase you go through, you'll grow out of it eventually.
some do sooner than other

I had strobes at one time :wink:

he is correct

i think that if you have a fast car, you modded it to where you can race and have a good feeling of winning, you can rice out your car how ever you want, though i think there are different levels of ricing. a friend of mine just got his first car, he had a black civic mid 90's , he put a tall spoiler on it and put Type R stickers everywhere. it was funny though, because to him he didnt know he looked like a stupid ricer, but he was a cool kid cause he just got his civic and 'supercharged it with stickers'. when i got my 1g gs ,i didnt know much of the gs, rs , and gst, i did go for some bolt ons instead of the high spoiler, i put on the short ram and the exhaust, which imho is better than spending on stupid shit. though i do have some stuff in my car like blue neon under the dash and a blue neon in my subs, it looks nice to me, and didnt cost me that much. so i guess, everyones definition of rice is just has varied has everyones definition has 'normal' :screwy: .

I started down the rice path of doom about 6 months ago and I have seen the darkness that lies within. Seriously though I'm building my car for more sho than go, but I won't go around reving my 420A around thinkin I'm the new shyt.

you dont have a 420A, you have a 4G64 :wink:

you dont have a 420A, you have a 4G64 :wink:

thats just funny. :lol2:

.............Yeah and in an earlier post I pointed that out, but everyone there said that was nothing but a neon motor........

....in my other thread somebody told me to go here:http://www.2gnt.com/nuke/modules.ph...ories=General#6 and what I took from that is that engines are basically the same so that's why I said what I said. Like I said I'm fairly new to all this so forgive me if I stumble.

no biggie
they gave the N/T spyders a different engine. since it was a bit heavier and needed that extra torque, they gave it the 2.4 4G64

so how much hp am I looking at? And also I'm looking to put 18x5's from falken on and am wondering what can I get to correct problem's that might occur( if any).

Here's a tale on 'riciness':

Imagine yourself at a light in a '01 Mirage DE Coupe... please don't laugh at my car, it's treated me well!... anyhow, buddy pulls up next to you in a silver Mustang, late 80s model, with black racing stripes, silver tinted windows, and revving his engine like a maniac. On closer inspection you see 5.0L, VTEC and GT-R badges all over the car. You exhale and roll your eyes...

He rolls his window down, points at you, then points forward. You nod.

Light turns green, you screech the tires on your 92hp, 2100 lbs. beast of a Mitsu beating him off the line (crosswalk) and leave buddy behind you by more than a car length by the time you get to the next light. You laugh, not believing what happened and continue on your way.

You stop at the supermarket to do some shopping about a week later, and who should appear? It's buddy with his 5-point-slow. He sees you and asks what's under the hood, "You must have modded that thing out to the max!"

"Nope, stock 1.5L", you reply.

He looks in utter disbelief, then you ask him what he is running. He looks at you funny. "What's under the hood?" you point at his car. He happily pops the hood and proudly displays a 4 cylinder engine with a Pepboys APC cone filter and enough dirt and grease buildup to add another 100 pounds to the car!

What is rice? Rice is trying to pretend your car is something it is not. VTEC Mustangs and 5.0L Hondas... racing stripes do NOT add horsepower... nor do Euro-style tail lights, which most people don't see when you race them because you are LOSING!

The above-mentioned domestic ricer has since debadged his car, though he still sports the racing stripes and tinted windows. Last I saw/heard, he was attempting to swap a V8 into his car.

DISCLAIMER: I have NOTHING against show cars... I don't glorify heavily modified street racers, either... I just like common sense, that's all. Don't pretend you are something you are not... you look stupid when the truth is revealed.

Here's a tale on 'riciness':

Imagine yourself at a light in a '01 Mirage DE Coupe... please don't laugh at my car, it's treated me well!... anyhow, buddy pulls up next to you in a silver Mustand, late 80s model, with black racing stripes, silver tinted windows, and revving his engine like a maniac. On closer inspection you see 5.0L, VTEC and GT-R badges all over the car. You exhale and roll your eyes...

He rolls his window down, points at you, then points forward. You nod.

Light turns green, you screech the tires on your 92hp, 2100 lbs. beast of a Mitsu beating him off the line (crosswalk) and leave buddy behind you by more than a car length by the time you get to the next light. You laugh, not believing what happened and continue on your way.

You stop at the supermarket to do some shopping about a week later, and who should appear? It's buddy with his 5-point-slow. He sees you and asks what's under the hood, "You must have modded that thing out to the max!"

"Nope, stock 1.5L", you reply.

He looks in utter disbelief, then you ask him what he is running. He looks at you funny. "What's under the hood?" you point at his car. He happily pops the hood and proudly displays a 4 cylinder engine with a Pepboys APC cone filter and enough dirt and grease buildup to add another 100 pounds to the car!

What is rice? Rice is trying to pretend your car is something it is not. VTEC Mustangs and 5.0L Hondas... racing stripes do NOT add horsepower... nor do Euro-style tail lights, which most people don't see when you race them because you are LOSING!

The above-mentioned domestic ricer has since debadged his car, though he still sports the racing stripes and tinted windows. Last I saw/heard, he was attempting to swap a V8 into his car.

DISCLAIMER: I have NOTHING against show cars... I don't glorify heavily modified street racers, either... I just like common sense, that's all. Don't pretend you are something you are not... you look stupid when the truth is revealed.

AMEN...!! rice is when admin tells ya you need at least 10 charactors to post. AMEN says it all....