preludes suck

gsr is way faster. performs better handles better rides better looks better quicker exceleration.

gsr is way faster. performs better handles better rides better looks better quicker exceleration.

wtf?

meant for this to jus be a reply?

btw...ur wrong, the gsr runs the same times in the 1/4 mile, but will out-perform it in the corners (so u were right about handling).

as for looks...thas jus ur opinion.

:screwy:
speak for yourself, Preludes (5th gen at least) are one of the best looking cars i have seen.

world is full of ignorant people. I personally would take a prelude over a GSR. GSR is a nice car. Yet the Prelude is more in my taste. Theres no reason to say the prelude sucks. Ass.

:screwy:
speak for yourself, Preludes (5th gen at least) are one of the best looking cars i have seen.

ever seen a Porsche?

I like the integra's better for the high revving engine... just seems so much more fun! and is! hehe high revving engines in general are funner i think.

ok, my buddy has a '97 SH. Off the line in my LS, I run a little bit faster. On the freeway, he pulls on. He says that at high speed (120mph) the integra is faster (he used to have a 94 RS). So GSR is definitely faster. And the prelude does rev high. It revs higher than my teg.

Doesn't the SH corner better than integras? It has ATTS.

ever seen a Porsche?

I like the integra's better for the high revving engine... just seems so much more fun! and is! hehe high revving engines in general are funner i think.
FYI funner is not a word :screwy:

Also tegdude why start a thread to bash a car? Are you 13yrs old or something that is just lame :loser:

ok, my buddy has a '97 SH. Off the line in my LS, I run a little bit faster. On the freeway, he pulls on. He says that at high speed (120mph) the integra is faster (he used to have a 94 RS). So GSR is definitely faster. And the prelude does rev high. It revs higher than my teg.

Doesn't the SH corner better than integras? It has ATTS.


srry for some reason i cant get out of the comparing '93 lude SI vs '94 teg LS (i was looking at both of those when shopping around)

Doesn't the SH corner better than integras? It has ATTS.

no...the type r would run circles around the SH and any other honda (yes even the s2k) in the corners.

1/4 mile times are VERY close, and its completely a drivers race between the sh an the gsr, an the same for corners...

the type r is faster of course...

The 92-96 vtec Ludes could do the Quarter mile in 15.1, stock- faster than the SH Ludes 15.3. The gsr is 15.3 or 15.4. As far as handling the SH should out handle even the type r in the right hands - due to ATTS.

Check out this site for proof and look at the track times down the bottom
http://www.car-videos.com/performance/view.asp?ID1=72&ID2=67

gsr is way faster. performs better handles better rides better looks better quicker exceleration.

Hello TegDude,

Why don't you make a long list of things that suck and put yourself at the top that list?

Hello Everyone,
Please refrain from starting mindless threads. They end up pushing useful threads farther down the list.

no...the type r would run circles around the SH and any other honda (yes even the s2k) in the corners.

1/4 mile times are VERY close, and its completely a drivers race between the sh an the gsr, an the same for corners...

the type r is faster of course...

Man a ITR Type R beating an s2000 on the corners?...mmm....the teg itr is a very good handler, but if you put these two on a real track, the s2000 is way faster on a straight and its a RWD. Dont think an ITR TR can outperform an s2000 in any area.

The 92-96 vtec Ludes could do the Quarter mile in 15.1, stock- faster than the SH Ludes 15.3. The gsr is 15.3 or 15.4. As far as handling the SH should out handle even the type r in the right hands - due to ATTS.

Check out this site for proof and look at the track times down the bottom
http://www.car-videos.com/performance/view.asp?ID1=72&ID2=67

ur times are a bit off. the gsr runs a 15.2 stock (94-95), so does the SH.

it isn't that the SH 'should' out-handle the type r (considering the type r is the car that wins more auto-x races than any other fwd car), more like COULD out-handle the type r.

but this is true about any car. a person new to auto-x compared to someone who's got a couple of years under their belt=the person w/ more experience and skill coming out on top. its almost all driver, not the car. BUT when the drivers are even, the type r would come out on top.

the s2k isn't WAY faster on a straight. considering that an s2k could barely put 3/4 of a car on me through 2nd and 3rd gear (which would be the gears u'd be in for a straight in auto-x), the type r would hang with it. the rwd makes for a much better launch, and therefore, allows the s2k to put down lower 1/4 mile times.

maybe saying the type r woud out-handle the s2k was a bit too bold (tough to back up), so i'll say the type r and the s2k are very even.

What about the NSX?

I wouldnt believe everything on that site, syas the 01 ITR runs a 15.24

What about the NSX?

haha..."(u) got me good fucker..." (supertroopers)

damn, i got owned this thread...

guys, never listen to me again...EVER.

ok ok, THE INTEGRA TYPE R IS THE BEST FRONT WHEEL DRIVE CAR that honda produces in the corners... :biggrin:

I wouldnt believe everything on that site, syas the 01 ITR runs a 15.24

No, this site seems pretty accurate for pretty much every car. There is regional differences between the itr though. As far as i know the jdm itr is faster than the Acura itr (More hp. etc.)
All in all though not being biased (i have a 93 jdm vtec Lude myself) all these cars are drivers races - they are all within a couple of tenths in the 0-60 and quarter mile.

All drivers and conditions being equal:

jdm Itr is the quickest then

92-95 Lude vtec then

Acura Itr then

96-01 Lude then

US gsr

yeah, but the jdm itr has I think 5 hp more and barely any more torque, and if vtec ludes run low 15's stock then no way the vtec lude is faster than even the USDM ITR. the 2nd gen GSR ran faster than their time for the ITR. I hear the vtec ludes compared to the GSR's usually and the lude comes out a bit faster, but the ITR is a good bit faster than the GSR. and I am surew with a good driver in the lude a win over a ITR could happen, but with equal drivers/conditions the ITR should own it.

yeah, but the jdm itr has I think 5 hp more and barely any more torque, and if vtec ludes run low 15's stock then no way the vtec lude is faster than even the USDM ITR. the 2nd gen GSR ran faster than their time for the ITR. I hear the vtec ludes compared to the GSR's usually and the lude comes out a bit faster, but the ITR is a good bit faster than the GSR. and I am surew with a good driver in the lude a win over a ITR could happen, but with equal drivers/conditions the ITR should own it.

damn this is too confusing, i give up :banghead:

explain how i saw stock ITR's running 14.7-15.0 at the track then arm.

the lude vtec runs almost identical times to the gsr (less than a tenth of a second), and it is completely a drivers race.

don't believe everything u read, goto a track an u'll see...(doesn't this sound familiar...j/k nsx...)

i give props to the lude vtec, but to say it is faster than the usdm itr isn't one that i can see u backing up. the websites vary WAY too much to have an accurate reading of wut a car will run. personally, track experience is a much better reading for me...

damn this is too confusing, i give up :banghead:
:lol2: I agree... It makes sense the 4th time, but I usually check mine for any errors, cause some people can have trouble reading even simple things(like me), no biggie though, Ive always heard the 2nd gen GSR is right behind the ITR, never faster though, but like you said, give an ITR to an inexperienced driver, and it doesnt matter what the numbers say SHOULD happen, we all know what WILL happen. :grinno:

its not fair though to say the lude vtec is faster cuz the ITR had a novice driver, give the lude the a new driver and same thing will happen.

ur times are a bit off. the gsr runs a 15.2 stock (94-95), so does the SH.

it isn't that the SH 'should' out-handle the type r (considering the type r is the car that wins more auto-x races than any other fwd car), more like COULD out-handle the type r.

but this is true about any car. a person new to auto-x compared to someone who's got a couple of years under their belt=the person w/ more experience and skill coming out on top. its almost all driver, not the car. BUT when the drivers are even, the type r would come out on top.

the s2k isn't WAY faster on a straight. considering that an s2k could barely put 3/4 of a car on me through 2nd and 3rd gear (which would be the gears u'd be in for a straight in auto-x), the type r would hang with it. the rwd makes for a much better launch, and therefore, allows the s2k to put down lower 1/4 mile times.

maybe saying the type r woud out-handle the s2k was a bit too bold (tough to back up), so i'll say the type r and the s2k are very even.

You said the 94-95 GSR runs a 15.2 stock. Does the obd1 even in a stock car, make that much of a difference that 96-01s wouldnt be in the same time category, or would 96+ just be like 15.3(same drivers)? We put a generic intake in a 93 del sol and the same one on a 97 del sol. You could barely even tell it was on in the 97, but people thought it sounded like an exhaust in the 93, so I know it's something special... dang, thats gonna be my next mod. :eek7:

its not fair though to say the lude vtec is faster cuz the ITR had a novice driver, give the lude the a new driver and same thing will happen.

I'm the perfect example for this not to be true...i had my prelude for a week, then had a JDM h22 swapped into it...I raped the new ludes, GSR's, Si's, and i took a 350z off the line and thru 2nd gear. Stock, ya the ITR may handle better than the lude, but if both suspensions are done the same (coilovers and struts) the prelude i think would handle much better than the ITR...thats my 2 cents
:smokin: :evillol:

I'm the perfect example for this not to be true...i had my prelude for a week, then had a JDM h22 swapped into it...I raped the new ludes, GSR's, Si's, and i took a 350z off the line and thru 2nd gear. Stock, ya the ITR may handle better than the lude, but if both suspensions are done the same (coilovers and struts) the prelude i think would handle much better than the ITR...thats my 2 cents
:smokin: :evillol:

Hmm heavier car with the same suspension as a lighter car handling better:screwy: Not going to happen unless it is alot wider. Plus the LSD that the ITR has would let you exit corners faster than the lude, so it will still get smoked in the corners by the ITR.

type r will get the lude if u ask me.......preludes are fast.....ask my friend gary but i think the type r are a lil faster though....they have what like 195 horse compared to almost the same in the lude(neglecting aftermarket mods) but the preludes are heavy as hell.......like a suv vs a crx

hey guys the type-r is a great car, but it does have it's ups and downs. one example was from an article where they tested the type-r vs. the miata on a track. the results concluded the in handling the miata surpassed the itr in every corner, but not surprisingly the the it-r kills it on the straight aways. as far as the prelude to "suck" as someone mentions, i guess they are just lost and basically have very little knowledge on cars. the ludes are pretty fast for it's weight and the handling is one of the best for it's price. please refer to the link and go the prelude sh and read. http://tuneman1.tripod.com/index.html

agreed tran.

the lude is an AWESOME car for the money, but to compare it to the ITR in the corners is a bit of a stretch.

the miata is in a whole nother class tho. its basically one of the greatest handling machines ever built at a reasonable price.

btw shoof...there is a lot more to the type r's suspension than jus upgraded springs/struts...its going to take more than that to overwhelm even a stock ITR in the corners.

hey krnxracer i do agree that the miata is awesome in handling. im also glad we both agree the miata is better in handling than the itr, but if you look at that link it, the lude handles better than the competition under 30 grand. the competion consist of five other cars, which one of them is the miata. so although they never tested the lude vs. itr head to head, u can infer that the lude is better than the itr since it is better than the miata. hopefully this wasn't too confusing :screwy:

LOL the guy starts a thread to bash a car that is owned by the same company that makes his car. Wierd People.

And speaking of handling. Porsche Anyone? :)

Speaking of stupid threads, closed anyone.