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Double Clutching


big_sam_2004
10-14-2003, 10:01 PM
Ok, i just want to know what is double clutching, how does it work, how do you do it, and why is it called double clutching..........thanx

Misundaztood
10-15-2003, 03:13 AM
I have no idea how it works as I've only owned autos, but from what I've read, it's just some stupid phrase in F&F that if applied to a car in real life actually slows it down...

BlkCamaroSS
10-15-2003, 10:13 AM
Watch the movie Bullitt, and try and figure it out for yourself. I don't think anyone, especially on this forum, knows how to do it correctly...

Chevyracincamaro
10-15-2003, 10:32 PM
actually double clutching is quite simple. all that is involved is releasing the clutch in neutral when shifting between gears. for example when goin form first to second, clutch out in first... clutch in to move to neutral... clutch out while in neutral... clutch in to move to second... and it actually does do something kindof. back before cars had synchro mesh transmissions you had to do this to line up the gears properly with the drive shaft

Chevyracincamaro
10-16-2003, 12:07 AM
P.S. - Fast and the Furious and 2Fast 2Furious are the worst movies in the world!! They are horribly wrong and should never ever be referenced when talkin about cars. The people who talk about the movies or use ideas and concepts from the movies look like idiots when around people who really know cars. for your own good, dont ever watch those movies ever again

big_sam_2004
10-19-2003, 05:12 PM
well actually, ive only seen the 1st f&f and know they do not present everything correctly, i didnt hear about double clutching from the movie, i know some people that really raec and they double clutch, they just keep it a secret on how to do it so i decided to ask people on here, so i can practice and serve them up a good old fashioned butt whoopin (it actually does improve acceleration)

StreetLethal
10-19-2003, 05:30 PM
Chevyracincamaro has it right, it was before a time when transmissions would do it for you. What it does is speed up the set of gears that you are going into next, so you can slip seamlessly into them. I wouldn't advise this unless you have someone show you how to do it that actually has a bit of experience.

LancasterWannaBe
10-21-2003, 08:41 PM
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well actually, ive only seen the 1st f&f and know they do not present everything correctly, i didnt hear about double clutching from the movie, i know some people that really raec and they double clutch, they just keep it a secret on how to do it so i decided to ask people on here, so i can practice and serve them up a good old fashioned butt whoopin (it actually does improve acceleration)

Well that all cool and stuff but there's no way you use it for acceleretion dude...
So basicly if you meant that, you're full of shit. :nono:

You double clutch when you're slowing down or getting ready to accelerate. It's called double clutching because you use the clutch twice. Now, why would you use the clutch twice in a drag??? Basicly, you wouldn't.

When you're driving normal you shift to a higher gear and your engine's speed decreases right? Well double clutching is kinda the same process but backwards. if you want to shift down, you need to speed up the engine and the first half of the tranni. Otherwise you'll feel that nasty jerk forward as your car quickly slows down for a second while your engine speeds up.

I double clutch all the time and like Chevyracincamaro said, It's freekin easy. It's not some racers trick. Infact, many big rig drivers have to do it when the shift because their transmission don't have synchros.

Here's how you might use it...
You in a race comming up to a turn (yes thats right a turn!).
You'll have to slow down to make this turn and when accelerating out of it you'll want to be in a lower gear. So, you shift to nutral, rev the engine (probably with your heal because you'll likely be braking at the same time), shift into a lower gear and accelerate out of the turn.

For drag racing you might be thinking of power shifting???
Thats basicly flooring it and when it's time to shift, you leave the gas pedal on the floor and shift fast enough that you don't scatter your engine. This is also not difficult.

89IROC&RS
11-24-2003, 08:39 PM
i agree with lancaster, i dont claim to know what doubble clutching is, but if it is how it was described, you would have to be able to move like thumper to make doubble clutching faster than regular powershifting. think ill stick with my leadfoot style ;)

syr74
11-24-2003, 09:03 PM
Lancaster is correct. Unless you are driving your dads B-Series Mack double clutching is not something you are likely to engage in. I am ssuming you don't spend you weekends at Watkins Glen here.

Absolutely not necessary in drag racing and if you do this while drag racing...go home..you know not of that which you are doing.

nacho_nissan
11-24-2003, 09:23 PM
ok,listen to a real car driver(nissan)...
double clutching shouldnt be used for drag racing,only a dumbass would,it should only be used to downshift.This should mostly be used to accelerate like coming out from turns in autocross,but like most american cars can only go straight,(including camaros)you guys shouldnt worry about this.so lets say ur getting to a turn at 60mph in 3rd,u slow down for the turn,right in the middle of the turn u double clutch(set it neutral,rev. it up high,and downshift),set it in 2nd,this will act like if u upshifted,when you really didnt...

89IROC&RS
11-24-2003, 09:27 PM
lol, so a camaro cant turn huh? well i suppose if your afraid of squeeling tires, seeing as imports rarely can ;) im very used to burning the hides off my camaro, so i do it around corners too, a butt end drift, maintains speed, and oh yeah, my IROC, was driving over the blue ridge mountains, at 100 mph, but no, camaros cant take corners, lol, i pee on your nissan :)

nacho_nissan
11-24-2003, 09:30 PM
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So, you shift to nutral, rev the engine (probably with your heal because you'll likely be braking at the same time), shift into a lower gear and accelerate out of the turn.


u just had to own a camaro,do u even know how to drive??Who told u u had to stop in the middle of a turn??You are supposed to stop before the turn,and get out of the turn quickly! :loser:

89IROC&RS
11-24-2003, 09:35 PM
are you talking to me? i never said anything about stopping, i mean sliding the rear around rally car style through a turn, stayin on the gas, i stay off the brakes while little imports are braking into them. my car is big in comparison, so i drive it like a boat, and what cha know, it works :) and question, were you surprised that i own a camaro? my sn is 89IROC&RS lol and why would you stop before the turn? typical import, slam on the brakes, look both ways, and then hold your mommys hand through the turn :) oh, and mr driver, when your doing heel toe driving, you rev with your toe, while braking with your heel. not the other way round, unless your doubble jointed or something. :)

89IROC&RS
11-24-2003, 09:36 PM
oh and nacho, dont get upset, or take any of this personaly, i just enjoy a good headed debate :) if i start to be a dick, lemmi know ;)

nacho_nissan
11-24-2003, 09:38 PM
lol, so a camaro cant turn huh? well i suppose if your afraid of squeeling tires, seeing as imports rarely can ;) im very used to burning the hides off my camaro, so i do it around corners too, a butt end drift, maintains speed, and oh yeah, my IROC, was driving over the blue ridge mountains, at 100 mph, but no, camaros cant take corners, lol, i pee on your nissan :)
you people need to learn,have u ever seen the D1(drifting competition of all japan cars)they really drift. Yall people's tires slide an inch to the side and say "omg,i drifted!!", :rolleyes: imports will take you anytime! and of course u can turn idiot,unless u dont have a steering wheel! :grinno: by the way,100mph!!oh shit!! i do that all the time around my block! :smokin:

89IROC&RS
11-24-2003, 09:44 PM
lol, i have seen the drifting competition, ebraking, yay, im impressed, *sarcasm* and i only have 215's on the RS, i tend to drift a bit more than an inch ;) but nice call on the steering wheel and turning, i suppose i should use smaller words, and be exact so you understand what im talking about :) lol, and if you do 100 around your neighborhood, your not only an ass, but your a dangerous one, i like speed as much as the next guy, more probly, but i only do it when its my ass on the line, hope its worth it when you cut some kid off at the knees.

syr74
11-24-2003, 09:45 PM
People who "drift"...man, that is the rolling incarnation of the rice concept. I prefer to actually go around a corner the fastest way possible, not the dumbest.

89IROC&RS
11-24-2003, 09:45 PM
oh, and id like to see a nissan doing 100 through the mountain roads, while driving with two fingers on the steering wheel like my baby can.

89IROC&RS
11-24-2003, 09:47 PM
lol, good call syr ;) i only do it cuz for me, it is faster. better a controlled butt drift than a sudden snap around and loss of control.

nacho_nissan
11-24-2003, 10:17 PM
D1 is not done with the e-brake!That shows u've never seen anything.And no i dont go 100 around my block!lol! And dont confuse us nissan enthusiasts with the famous ricers! Please,we are so not the same ones! Most ricers roll on civics,*(if they have an SiR sticker on the back,whatch out,that sticker is worth 50hp)!

Chevyracincamaro
11-24-2003, 10:29 PM
im all about chevy, i love my camaro but i cant still give respect where respect is due. nissan makes the skyline gt-r which is a whicked car no matter what side of the ocean you're on.

LancasterWannaBe
11-25-2003, 03:09 AM
Wasn't it already asked that you people NOT (as in "DO NOT DO IT!!!") bring back old threads?

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oh, and mr driver, when your doing heel toe driving, you rev with your toe, while braking with your heel. not the other way round, unless your doubble jointed or something.

I don't even remember who said that, but one guys method of double clutching (which is what this thread was about, remember...) probably won't work for someone else in a different car. I rev with my heal and I am not double jointed or anything, it's just easier with the gas/break pedal positions in my car. But I've also talked to many other people who also use their heal to rev. It's Just preference. Use your toe if you want. Or wait, here's an idea, use two or three of your toes,,, WOW!, that takes some skill... :thefinger

God damn people, you had to turn another discussion, and an old one at that, into an Import vs Domestic arguement didn't you...
Who fucking cares what car you drive? I sure don't! Double clutching is double clutching, it doesn't matter what car you drive.

Somebody close this thread please, It's old now.

89IROC&RS
11-25-2003, 06:04 PM
lol, wow, do you need a hug lancaster????? it was me who said that, and i was obviously mistaken, i was just poking at nacho anyway, but i admit i was wrong. ive never done it that way or seen anyone else do it, it feels weird to me so i assumed it wasnt done that way, and guess what, yet again, assumption is the mother of all F**K ups :) you may all pelt me with stones and rotten vegitables now ;)

nacho_nissan
11-25-2003, 10:13 PM
Wasn't it already asked that you people NOT (as in "DO NOT DO IT!!!") bring back old threads?
Hey this has been talked about,dumbass! :grinno:

LancasterWannaBe
11-26-2003, 03:03 AM
If it's been talked about then why don't you help respect some people requests and not bring them back.

Every time someone brings an old thread back, it takes the place of a new thread on the front page. So someone could be needing help, but their thread would get burried under the pile of crap that was dug up and they never get that help because no one ever sees their thread. Do you understand what I'm saying?

If you want to help someone that posted several months ago, then thats great and thank you for that, believe me it's appreciated. But just send them a personal message or email them so someone else doen't get screwed.

ra11585643
11-26-2003, 05:31 AM
Ok, i drive big rigs for a living so let me explain. Double clutching is for gears that are not synced. The method explained previously is correct but what was forgotten is your Dad doesnt use it in his B model mack and i dont use it in my truck either. After you get used to how the nonsynced gears work you " Float " them. Floating is syncing the gears by ear. You can listen to the engine and tell when you can shift. No clutch at all, this can be done with anything. When done with your car it is faster than a clutch like slipping from low to drive in an automatic. With practice you can drop time at the strip by Floating. Remember not to miss though.

LancasterWannaBe
11-26-2003, 12:17 PM
With practice you can drop time at the strip by Floating.

..... Um, no

ra11585643
11-26-2003, 12:28 PM
And just why do you think not ?

big_sam_2004
11-29-2003, 01:30 AM
aside from the flaming, why does nissan keep the skyline under wraps, i mean its at no car shows, dealerships, or on their website.......whats up with that!

BlkCamaroSS
11-29-2003, 11:22 AM
Because it's not marketed here. The only reason it is in the United States is due to companies like MotoRex, that import used cars here and sell them at costly prices...

Chevyracincamaro
11-30-2003, 10:42 PM
because its illegal as hell in the united states...japan has none of the laws that the us has on cars.

Mitymouse55
12-16-2003, 12:24 AM
hey, what do you think of the 5TH gen Prelude?

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