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maurs
10-14-2003, 10:27 PM
I'm planning to get a greddy turbo kit for my 98 gsr. i would like to know what i need to do to boost 12psi safely. I want do run about 6-8 daily. I was wondering if i could change the internal waste gate to an external, how would i do so? help me

turbo2nr
10-15-2003, 01:15 PM
a stock honda motor can only take 10psi at max on the stick internals.. you need new upgraded fuel sys. and also need to reinforce the internals to run safley,also some upgraded ignition sys..

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93weed_eater
10-15-2003, 10:42 PM
An LS can handle up to 12psi on a "properly tuned" turbo set up. the problem with most of the VTEC engines is the higher compression. I've also heard you shouldn't even run 10psi on a GSR unless you're going to rebuild the internals.

maurs
10-17-2003, 12:20 PM
An LS can handle up to 12psi on a "properly tuned" turbo set up. the problem with most of the VTEC engines is the higher compression. I've also heard you shouldn't even run 10psi on a GSR unless you're going to rebuild the internals.
what internals would i need to rebuild if going to run 12psi of boost?

turbo2nr
10-17-2003, 04:20 PM
pistons rods and new head gasket lowere compression to 8.5:1 or so also if u wnat new heasd studs now is the time and re sleving the block isnt a bad idea ither..
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maurs
10-17-2003, 05:02 PM
What about the wastegate? Could I change the internal for external?

turbo2nr
10-17-2003, 11:43 PM
at such low psi the internal is ok..
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MXrider22
10-18-2003, 12:58 AM
internall is ok... but external is nice if you want to turn up the boost with a boost controller for that 1 run downt he track... Question for turbo2nr... if you did pistons and rods... why would head gasket matter... i meen, just get the right compression pistons instead of lowering compression with the gasket right? im still a noob... but im trying to learn all i can i wouldt think if you were alreayd doing pistons and rods that you would need a thick gasket

93weed_eater
10-18-2003, 10:46 AM
if you get the right pistons you don't need a thick headgasket to lower compression but you should get a good one.

MXrider22
10-18-2003, 11:19 AM
thanx for the answer... i thought so

whtteg
10-19-2003, 12:48 AM
Getting the thicker head gasket to lower the CR is a bandaid fix and is a bad way to acomplish the goal. However you do need a good head gasket to hold up to the increased cylinder pressures. And I think if you are going to buy a kit (which I suggest building a custom kit) then the Greddy is not so great. I would go with revhard or drag, they make nice kits best off the shelf kits IMO.

turbo2nr
10-19-2003, 01:12 AM
thats what i ment is that if you reinforce the internals you might as well change to a thicker head gasket to hold up to the added boost pressures..
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MXrider22
10-19-2003, 01:21 AM
hmm... rev hard... i think maxrev makes a kit for ya... i dunno about dra though iv heard there manifolds suck n dont flow right... but that just what I've HEARD... not from experiece so let these guys with experience let ya know... just giving you my opinion from reading around

maurs
10-19-2003, 01:37 AM
I have to go with the greddy turbo kit because it's the only kit street legal. I'm not trying to build some crazy turbo race car. I simply just want to drive it daily and mess around with peeps on the streets. I'm planning on getting:
Greddy turbo kit
Greddy intercooler type 31v
Greddy profec b spec
Greddy type s b.o.v.
Greddy turbo timer
I was wondering if I needed anything else to run about 6-8psi, like ignition system or fuel?
Also I would like to change the internal wastegate for an external, I don't want to deal with boost creep. How could I change the wastegate to external

maurs
10-20-2003, 07:21 PM
I have to go with the greddy turbo kit because it's the only kit street legal. I'm not trying to build some crazy turbo race car. I simply just want to drive it daily and mess around with peeps on the streets. I'm planning on getting:
Greddy turbo kit
Greddy intercooler type 31v
Greddy profec b spec
Greddy type s b.o.v.
Greddy turbo timer
I was wondering if I needed anything else to run about 6-8psi, like ignition system or fuel?
Also I would like to change the internal wastegate for an external, I don't want to deal with boost creep. How could I change the wastegate to external
can anyone help me?

turbo2nr
10-21-2003, 02:37 PM
you might want a 255lb fuel pump and a apex-i safe to control the new air\fuel mixture, also get a 3" exhaust and downpipe, you do not need to worie aobut boost creep at such low boost so dont wast your time with a external wastegate... also get new plugs and wires.. if you want you can geta new fuel rail with new bigget injectors but it isnt needed for low boost.. dont boost over 8psi tho because your internals wont handle it for long

good luck
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racespecialists
10-25-2003, 07:19 PM
Thats some Money for the kit but street legal. You need a MSD BTM and a set of injectors,EGT gauges,fuel pump,boost gauge,BLOCKGARD,and e-MANAGE.How much are you buying the parts for? Hit me up if you need some prices!!!

turbo2nr
10-25-2003, 11:58 PM
you do not need a msd the stock ignition is fine with that boost setting, the fuel injectores is also good for now also the e-manage is not need b\c he is running low boost setting and the s-afc is more then capable of tunning the a\f ration in the engine with runing little boost..
rember he isnt going all out
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racespecialists
10-26-2003, 04:07 AM
GPP kit comes with injectors already. He is going to need a V-AFC not a S-afc. GPP turbo comes witha Inter. Wastegate not an exter. but still can be controlled. You can run 12Psi on a stock block no problem at any time. I've done it with my Hyb. Civid w/GSR motor. B spec is going to controll the boost but the MSD unit is a must.....................Whats the point at 7PSI you have NO traction...... :)
mp

MastaCivic
10-27-2003, 10:51 AM
This is just my :2cents: but if I was going with a complete turbo kit instead of a customized... I would go with this one i found on Nopi for your car(Its a little pricey on NOPI you could probably find it some where else for about 500 bucks cheaper) Its from Turbonetics.

Turbo Kit - GSR VTEC B18C1 1.8L DOHC - 8psi - Kit includes Custom T3/T4 Hybrid Turbocharger, Intercooler System, Exhaust Manifold, Fuel/Timing Management System, External Wastegate Assembly, Fuel Injectors, Mandrel-Bent Downpipe, Intake System, Air Filter and Hardware/Fittings - *90 horse power increase over stock

This kit includes a fms and injectors so all you really need fuel management wise is like a V-afc or whatever they're called(I still can't ever remember which one is recommend for boost) And probably get your ecu re-done by Hondata. An upgraded ignition system would also help but its not needed. Also the kit comes with an external wastegate assembly so that saves you having to deal with it. But there is a slight price difference... the greddy kit your talking about you could probably get for say 2g-2.2g and the Turbonetics kit for round 3g. So its just according to if you want to take the time to look for the external wastegate and other stuff. But from what i've heard(and I'm just stating what I've HEARD) but when I went to the NOPI Nationals this summer, I heard A LOT of people say that the greddy kits aren't all that great. Even the more known ones like the T-78's and T-88's for Supra's and Rx7's. But I heard a lot good things about the Turbonetics kits on Honda and Acura engines, nobody ever said anything bad about them sooo in my opinion(MY OPINION, i'm not deciding for you) I would go with the Turbonetics kit, little more pricey but with the Greddy kit you may get what you pay for less price could = less performance/less life

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