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Agentbondoo7
10-10-2003, 08:11 PM
I just bought a 1995 240sx for $1500.00,almost mint cond. by the way im 40 and have 3 kids and i'm on a budget.question #1 is thier a super charger kit for this car?#2 im old school "no replacement for displacement " hence forthe , why import a junk yard motor *sr20det* from japan.#3 should i build my ka24de ? thanks
J SPEC SilEighty
10-10-2003, 08:23 PM
First, Welcome to the site and good choice on the car :thumbsup GREAT DEAL also!!! :wave:
1. No, there are no supercharger kits for the KA24DE. There are plenty of turbo kits available but currently no supercharger kits. A member over at NICO (Nissan Infinity Car Owners) tried to make a custom supercharger kit for the KA but it didn't work very well.
2. Exactly. Personally I don't see why you would want to downgrade from 2.4 liters to a 2.0 liter engine when you can easily turbo the 2.4 liter KA. We all have our own opinions though and I'm not bashing anybody who would rather have the SR.
3. IMO, yes, build the KA. The KA has a ton of potential. Hell, you can even build it enough to go beat your buddies still running their huge V8's :D
Good luck on whatever you do and once again, welcome to the site :wave:
1. No, there are no supercharger kits for the KA24DE. There are plenty of turbo kits available but currently no supercharger kits. A member over at NICO (Nissan Infinity Car Owners) tried to make a custom supercharger kit for the KA but it didn't work very well.
2. Exactly. Personally I don't see why you would want to downgrade from 2.4 liters to a 2.0 liter engine when you can easily turbo the 2.4 liter KA. We all have our own opinions though and I'm not bashing anybody who would rather have the SR.
3. IMO, yes, build the KA. The KA has a ton of potential. Hell, you can even build it enough to go beat your buddies still running their huge V8's :D
Good luck on whatever you do and once again, welcome to the site :wave:
grncivicdhr
10-10-2003, 09:10 PM
check out www.realnissan.com for those turbo kits, they have good pricing for a budget. welcome to the forum. too bad you won't decrease displacement, the ca18det, is a great budget engine with great potential. in the long run tho, the ka24de(t) will probably be cheaper parts-wise.
spindrift187
10-10-2003, 09:15 PM
Ive heard of good deals before but damn! I also would say to turbo the KA. I just have a fondness for it, plus I'm unsure of buying a motor ive never seen or seen running.
RalphCare
10-10-2003, 10:53 PM
Ive heard of good deals before but damn! I also would say to turbo the KA. I just have a fondness for it, plus I'm unsure of buying a motor ive never seen or seen running.
definately turbo charge the KA, and build the bottom end to handle higher boost. u wont be dissapointed. since u are the domestic market type, u will enjoy the powerband that the turbo kicks in at. i'd say from wat i've heard its like a supercharger that takes a bit of spooling to kick in, cause its on a flat torque curve. and it doesnt peak up high like the high revving sr20 which u dont want. the engine potential are as follows:
KA can be made to run like a american drag car
SR can be made to run like a japanese track car.
thats basically it. but KA's surprise alot of SR folk at the drift events, and there is a guy in northern ontario who has a 2.8 KA, that he bored and built the bottom end for auto-x.
anyways.. i'd say have fun with the KA, and good luck.
definately turbo charge the KA, and build the bottom end to handle higher boost. u wont be dissapointed. since u are the domestic market type, u will enjoy the powerband that the turbo kicks in at. i'd say from wat i've heard its like a supercharger that takes a bit of spooling to kick in, cause its on a flat torque curve. and it doesnt peak up high like the high revving sr20 which u dont want. the engine potential are as follows:
KA can be made to run like a american drag car
SR can be made to run like a japanese track car.
thats basically it. but KA's surprise alot of SR folk at the drift events, and there is a guy in northern ontario who has a 2.8 KA, that he bored and built the bottom end for auto-x.
anyways.. i'd say have fun with the KA, and good luck.
Soyo
10-11-2003, 01:46 AM
welcome home! lol great deal by the way, if only I were so lucky
definately rebuild the engine and throw on a turbo, I recommend a garret turbo, possibly a T04E, they are very nice and you'll only hear good things about them... oh yea, and they are CHEAP! woohoo!
good luck man
definately rebuild the engine and throw on a turbo, I recommend a garret turbo, possibly a T04E, they are very nice and you'll only hear good things about them... oh yea, and they are CHEAP! woohoo!
good luck man
AWDSR20
10-11-2003, 02:52 PM
Welcome, $1500 what a deal! :thumbsup: I just swapped my engine for the SR form the getco because I had the single cam one.
Good luck on the KR project, be careful on the money side!
Rebuilding the KR to accommodate the boost plus consider the amount of money that is needed for the turbo kit for the KR will be some good sum of money. Not that I’m a SR bias, just something to consider due to the fact that you got such a good deal on the car you might not want to blow the saved money on an expensive project when there are other alternatives.
Good luck!
Good luck on the KR project, be careful on the money side!
Rebuilding the KR to accommodate the boost plus consider the amount of money that is needed for the turbo kit for the KR will be some good sum of money. Not that I’m a SR bias, just something to consider due to the fact that you got such a good deal on the car you might not want to blow the saved money on an expensive project when there are other alternatives.
Good luck!
Soyo
10-11-2003, 03:05 PM
not to be a dick about this, but swapping in an SR is way more expensive than turboing the KA
oh and why you keep saying KR?
oh and why you keep saying KR?
CrzyMR2T
10-11-2003, 03:24 PM
not to be a dick about this, but swapping in an SR is way more expensive than turboing the KA
i dont know about it being way more, depends on where you get ur engine, and where you get the engine put in. the cheapest turbo system for the ka24de ive seen were usually near the price of the sr + labor, for putting the engine in.
i dont know about it being way more, depends on where you get ur engine, and where you get the engine put in. the cheapest turbo system for the ka24de ive seen were usually near the price of the sr + labor, for putting the engine in.
Soyo
10-11-2003, 03:30 PM
you can get a T04E garret turbo for 1500 or so, then just get an intercooler and your set(wouldn't even be over 1000 if you look around), and really you could just have someone set the turbo up for you and do the intercooler yourself so maybe not WAY less but you'll save money with the turbo KA
SR20DETpower
10-11-2003, 05:18 PM
1500 bucks for a Garret T4 ARE YOU NUTS hehe
try about 550...
try about 550...
RalphCare
10-11-2003, 06:21 PM
1500 bucks for a Garret T4 ARE YOU NUTS hehe
try about 550...
1500. LOL. i hear u man.
honestly, the guys that think they are so expensive need to do some searching, and dont be afraid of ebay either, my friend has bought many 3-core intercooler stacks from ebay that he then chopped and welded into beautiful intercoolers, and he pays about 300 canadian for them.
try about 550...
1500. LOL. i hear u man.
honestly, the guys that think they are so expensive need to do some searching, and dont be afraid of ebay either, my friend has bought many 3-core intercooler stacks from ebay that he then chopped and welded into beautiful intercoolers, and he pays about 300 canadian for them.
Agentbondoo7
10-11-2003, 07:07 PM
hey thanks for the info ! the car was brokered through United Auto @ 262 south main st east windsor CT P#8606233301 rodney hanna is the guy that hooked me up.eastren states auto auction is located in east windsor CT. $500.00 deposit and 3 weeks and i had my car.
Man im impressed, love this 240sx,and after researching about the ka24de im convinced its the only way to go! i'll post some pics off the car soon . Again appreciate the help.
Man im impressed, love this 240sx,and after researching about the ka24de im convinced its the only way to go! i'll post some pics off the car soon . Again appreciate the help.
Agentbondoo7
10-11-2003, 07:46 PM
Also in my research i'v heard that the ka24de has forged crank and rods and that doing a piston replacment is all you need to do . Q #1 whats the max boost i can do with stock internals, Q #2 some say the intake manifold is inadiquate,Whats the fix?Q #3 what other tranny's are their,and how stout is the stock 5 speed tranny and rear end(meat ball)?Agent Bondoo7 out .
Dorikin
10-11-2003, 09:38 PM
i dont know about it being way more, depends on where you get ur engine, and where you get the engine put in. the cheapest turbo system for the ka24de ive seen were usually near the price of the sr + labor, for putting the engine in.
Youre looking in the wrong places dude.
Youre looking in the wrong places dude.
AWDSR20
10-12-2003, 04:00 AM
KA huh what i'm i thinking? :screwy: sorry! (KR that is) :icon16:
RalphCare
10-12-2003, 12:02 PM
Also in my research i'v heard that the ka24de has forged crank and rods and that doing a piston replacment is all you need to do . Q #1 whats the max boost i can do with stock internals, Q #2 some say the intake manifold is inadiquate,Whats the fix?Q #3 what other tranny's are their,and how stout is the stock 5 speed tranny and rear end(meat ball)?Agent Bondoo7 out .
i've read that 6 psi to 8 psi is about the most boost u can do with stock internals. but thats not bad considering the KA has a longer stroke than the SR, which means it will spool up any turbo faster than the SR will. BUT, when pieces are longer like that, they tend to be a tad weaker. which is why you should probably get some beefed up rods aswell, and shot-peen and bull-nose, the crankshaft and heat-coat it so its lighter and stronger, and cuts thru the oil better, alowing the engine to make its way thru the gears faster. i believe the intake manifold is what keeps the engine from breathing well, but with a turbo and a custom intake plenum, you could put on an infiniti j30 (i think its the j30, or m45, not sure) throttle body, which is larger than the KA throttle body, and put that on the plenum, and have all cylinders get some massive air. im not sure about any other trannies for the KA. i dunno if it came FWD in any trucks (no, thats not a diss to the KA :P) but other than that, the KA tranny seems to hold up well. its not like a honda tranny, they arent built to whitstand all the torque nissans throw at their trannies. that doesnt meant hondas cant handle it, but nissan is just better at handling that kinda torque. :) your tranny should be fine with a servicing from a local shop, and have a tranny rebuilder inspect it if u really wanna make sure.
i've read that 6 psi to 8 psi is about the most boost u can do with stock internals. but thats not bad considering the KA has a longer stroke than the SR, which means it will spool up any turbo faster than the SR will. BUT, when pieces are longer like that, they tend to be a tad weaker. which is why you should probably get some beefed up rods aswell, and shot-peen and bull-nose, the crankshaft and heat-coat it so its lighter and stronger, and cuts thru the oil better, alowing the engine to make its way thru the gears faster. i believe the intake manifold is what keeps the engine from breathing well, but with a turbo and a custom intake plenum, you could put on an infiniti j30 (i think its the j30, or m45, not sure) throttle body, which is larger than the KA throttle body, and put that on the plenum, and have all cylinders get some massive air. im not sure about any other trannies for the KA. i dunno if it came FWD in any trucks (no, thats not a diss to the KA :P) but other than that, the KA tranny seems to hold up well. its not like a honda tranny, they arent built to whitstand all the torque nissans throw at their trannies. that doesnt meant hondas cant handle it, but nissan is just better at handling that kinda torque. :) your tranny should be fine with a servicing from a local shop, and have a tranny rebuilder inspect it if u really wanna make sure.
spitz7985
10-12-2003, 02:20 PM
KA trannys tend to have sloppy shifters, so i've heard.
mine does. hopefully a B&M shortshifter does the trick
soyo- you need a lot more than just a turbo and an IC to turbo a naturally aspirated car. also, how can u recommend a turbo to him without even knowing his plans. he wanted a supercharger, so that means he probly doesn't want to wait for boost. size of turbo depends on what his max hp plans are.
mine does. hopefully a B&M shortshifter does the trick
soyo- you need a lot more than just a turbo and an IC to turbo a naturally aspirated car. also, how can u recommend a turbo to him without even knowing his plans. he wanted a supercharger, so that means he probly doesn't want to wait for boost. size of turbo depends on what his max hp plans are.
Dorikin
10-12-2003, 02:28 PM
KA trannys tend to have sloppy shifters, so i've heard.
mine does. hopefully a B&M shortshifter does the trick
soyo- you need a lot more than just a turbo and an IC to turbo a naturally aspirated car. also, how can u recommend a turbo to him without even knowing his plans. he wanted a supercharger, so that means he probly doesn't want to wait for boost. size of turbo depends on what his max hp plans are.
B&M supposedly feels like a Honda S2000, which is regarded as the best shifter on any car. its like a rifle bolt clicking into place. :)
mine does. hopefully a B&M shortshifter does the trick
soyo- you need a lot more than just a turbo and an IC to turbo a naturally aspirated car. also, how can u recommend a turbo to him without even knowing his plans. he wanted a supercharger, so that means he probly doesn't want to wait for boost. size of turbo depends on what his max hp plans are.
B&M supposedly feels like a Honda S2000, which is regarded as the best shifter on any car. its like a rifle bolt clicking into place. :)
spitz7985
10-12-2003, 03:16 PM
i'll be ordering it next week. is $225 the best price you guys have seen.
i can't wait :biggrin:
i can't wait :biggrin:
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