spyder eclipst gst vs ws6

After work,a co worker and I decide to race. Him (ws6/ram air) me 97 eclipse spyder gst (on 18 inch chromes). my co worker is very knowlegeable and pretty cool. He's had a few cars and ran very fast times at the track. I just started putting on all bolt ons(intake,3 inch exh,boost controller, etc. Most recently ported the t25 and very much amazed in the spool and psi(19)i can run. So we hit a two lane frontage road and come to a full stop. he says give three honks=go. 1,2,3, were off. both cars skid tires, and by the time my tires catch traction hes pulled ahead 1 car. thinking if I dont catch any ground in 2nd gear its already over. 4000 rpms into 2nd and i notice i start to pull abit. till the end of 3rd gear 90mph hes to my back bumper and brake it. He gives a thumbs up and I likewise. We pull over and hes very amazed by the way my car pulled on him. We chat awhile and both go home. This morning at work he says he went into some of the dsm web sites and did some research. he's amazed at the times these cars run with just little mods. starts tellen me if i had a gsx ida had him from the get go. Im totally suprized( this guy is a total firebird/trans am fanatic.

Im guessing it had something to do with the 19lbs of boost your using. Just think of what his car would do with 19lbs of boost though :evillol:

Aw, crap.. here we go with the "what if's" and "it would's".....


Anyways.. Good kill!! Stock internalled(shit.. is that a word?) 4g63's can take 19psi??? Whats max psi on a 4g63 with stock internals??

Was the WS6 a slush box or a manual trans?? And I'm assuming he's stock??

thats why im gettin a DSM. i think ur car can hit 13s with 19 psi. my cuzins TSi AWD has FULL cat-back, exhaust, intake, polished headers, boostcontroller, and he is runnin low 13s...good thing he didnt blow his engine. :iceslolan

Aw, crap.. here we go with the "what if's" and "it would's".....


Anyways.. Good kill!! Stock internalled(shit.. is that a word?) 4g63's can take 19psi??? Whats max psi on a 4g63 with stock internals??

Was the WS6 a slush box or a manual trans?? And I'm assuming he's stock??


Stock Internal's is prob what I mean. 4g63 stock internals can handle up to 400hp. 19psi is on a ported t25 actually making it a t28. everyday street use is 16psi and with the dual stage electronic boost controler i set the 2nd stage to 19 psi for racing. as for the max psi? havent dynoed my car yet. my max would be till my turbo blew or if i raised my psi to 20 and got less hp output when it was at 19 psi on a dyno run no.?

Im guessing it had something to do with the 19lbs of boost your using. Just think of what his car would do with 19lbs of boost though :evillol:


ws6 with 19lbs of boost would be evil i agree. but to get my car to run 19 psi would run me $150 for a manual boost controler. thats with doing the install myself. now if a ws6 was to run 19lbs boost. youd need
1. Turbo kit
2. install kit
3. boost controller
4. inner cooler
thats just the basics. heh now that you already spent 30 grand on the car. compared to my 18k, 3 years ago. It would take you at the least 3k with doing ALL installs yourself. It just doesnt add up if you ask me.

That would do you no good, you'd need a whole new damn engine on a WS6 with 19 psi. The aluminum block is good for 7-8 psi generally. What year WS6 was it?

Good Kill SpyderEclipseGst,
What BlkCamaroSS said. LSX blocks aren't very strong, they're not made for boost. You can safely boost an LQ4 (iron LS1) to 20-psi though.

Good Run! But Would Love To Race U. I Got A 95 Gsx With A 93 Tsi Motor And Tranny. I Just Dropped A Stage 4 Garret Turbo And Running 15 Psi. This Week I'm Going To Put New Je Racing Pistons I'm Taking My Turbo To 20-25 Psi. I Just Raced A 95 3000gt Vr-4 On 10-04-03 And I Got Him With About 1 Car Lenght. So I Think U Should Go With The Stage 4 Garret Turbo And Lot's Of Mod's To Do That!!!

That would do you no good, you'd need a whole new damn engine on a WS6 with 19 psi. The aluminum block is good for 7-8 psi generally. What year WS6 was it?


2002/2003 ws6

you guys and your turbos are making me jealous.

Gotta be a 2002 then, that was the last model year for the F-bodies. Good run nevertheless :sunglasse

Gotta be a 2002 then, that was the last model year for the F-bodies. Good run nevertheless :sunglasse



Ill get pics up later this week of both cars. spyder is fully blitzed with viper red paint job. just took pics. hope to get them on my profile soon. as for the ws6 its silver with fiske rims ws6/ram air performance package.
so it says on the back *sigh*

Good Run! But Would Love To Race U. I Got A 95 Gsx With A 93 Tsi Motor And Tranny. I Just Dropped A Stage 4 Garret Turbo And Running 15 Psi. This Week I'm Going To Put New Je Racing Pistons I'm Taking My Turbo To 20-25 Psi. I Just Raced A 95 3000gt Vr-4 On 10-04-03 And I Got Him With About 1 Car Lenght. So I Think U Should Go With The Stage 4 Garret Turbo And Lot's Of Mod's To Do That!!!


sup gsx, i really dont know what a stage 4 garret turbo is, as for the mitsu line of turbos they go small 16g,16g and big 16g. do you know exactly what turbo it is. t28 ..etc. I dont know all of your mods but to run 20-25 psi on racing pistons alone..? did you just hear something go Boom..?

That was nice run and its great to hear the other guy was cool when he came up short :smile:

Damn, I wish that I had the money to put down on some Fiske FM5's, those are awesome rims...

Damn, I wish that I had the money to put down on some Fiske FM5's, those are awesome rims...


Says he coulda bought 22's on his tahoe for the price of the fiske's.
aluminum alloy = $$$$

Says he coulda bought 22's on his tahoe for the price of the fiske's.
aluminum alloy = $$$$

Sounds like he shoulda bought a S/C instead of Fiskes :) Yea Fiske are ridiculous amounts of $$$

Can someone post a pic of these high dollar wheels, please?

Can someone post a pic of these high dollar wheels, please?

Here ya go: http://www.21stcenturymusclecars.com/fiksefm5.asp

http://www.21stcenturymusclecars.com/images/8151wb.JPG

Just for perspective, the Fikse forged wheels weigh between 16 to 19 lbs per rim from 17 to 19 inches...my Classic SE-R's specialized, all-aluminum 14-inch rims are 17lbs apiece.

Yup, that's them, they're pretty damn amazing. I can't justify the price for them though...

Fiske's are pretty nice. But I think iForged and HRE are both much better.
19" iForged run about $900 - $1000...PER WHEEL! But they are most definately worth it! They're the nicest wheels I've ever seen...On ANY car.
http://www.iforged.com
http://www.hrewheels.com

I'm typing those links up by memory so I could be off. If they don't work, just go to yahoo.com and search for the respective brands, HRE and iForged.