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Razor_Wing
10-05-2003, 07:31 PM
I HATE being a newbie, oh well. I'm pretty much new to the 240sx, as well as the whole import seene, lol. I'm yet another victem (sp?) of the corruption of Super Street and Sport Comp, lol. Nissan has always been the only real jap company I've liked. I'm 17, I live in Blowing Rock NC (Western NC), and I own a 1986 Pontic Fiero GT. I REALLY want a 240sx though, but I can't seem to find one. I want REAL cheap, I don't much care how paint or the engine is, and I want a 5 speed. I plan on putting a SR20DET (I think that's right) engine in...or something.... And repainting it. I've found one car that matches it near me, and I bet I could get it REAL cheep, but It's an auto...how hard is it to convert to manuel? Should I take it to a shop to do? Anyone know of a good one? I've seen engine/tranny combo's for sale, is there like a 6speed or something that "bolts in" while I'm putting a manuel in? I'm quite nolagable(sp) about cars (but can't spell for shit!) and all, just not the richest nor have the most time, lol. Any help would be nice! also, what all do I need and where can I get it? Thx!

Edit: oh, I would perfer 89-94 :D. I like the look better for somereason... and "3 door" (does that mean fast back?)

Two_4tee_2NR
10-05-2003, 08:21 PM
some smart guy on the fourm once said.....
we don't take kindley to newbies and we wont spoon feed info to newbies we don't want our cars to be trends like the honda civics and all that garbage....but because i'me a newbie and they won't seem to help me much....i'll help you. i own a 93 240 coupe it automatic. but they can do a 5 speed convershion on the ka if u would like fgor 500 labor plus parts up here at hybrid dynamics, they can swap to a sr for 1000 labor and 5 speed and sr for about 1250. basicley they find a junked one at mahronies (local import yard) and they get the clut and brake assy's and a crosmember and everything else hydrolic lines they take it slap it in the automatic. as far as sr swaps....read the FAQ 5 times then read it 20 more......bookmark every link in there read up on it in ur spare time, evetualy u'll find the shops and the parts u desire, remember tho don't come on here and ask were u can buy and aluminum wing hubcaps and some led washer lights no one will talk to u ever again, if you understand the jdm consept...its Speed over looks....and if the best thing about the jdm look no big wings. its wangan wing clean look mild body kit no 19 inch chrom rims here.....fora first import car u gota lota crap ur gona take from these folks.....i dunno how exactley to proove myself to them but, to me i'me not jdm, i'me me! i like cars w/0 body kits that look clean i don't like wild shit, i like speed, i like seein good swaps like rb26dett's but my theroy is keep it in the famliey don't put ford 305's in ur nissan.....just my thing......these guys don't like newbies......but what the hell they were too at some point.....




offf sumbject........yes i love s13's no i don't own a silvia i own a 240sx, and my car will never be a silvia or a rps13 or any of that it is what it is!
so....go buy an auto and when u got money geta sr20 witha 5speed swap like me.....sept i been thinkin about a rb20 even tho u need sum costom intake n exaust.....no one cares to help you??? ok use google.....


GOOGLE YOU MAH ONLY FRIEND!

Suislide
10-05-2003, 08:50 PM
some smart guy on the fourm once said.....
we don't take kindley to newbies and we wont spoon feed info to newbies we don't want our cars to be trends like the honda civics and all that garbage....but because i'me a newbie and they won't seem to help me much....i'll help you. i own a 93 240 coupe it automatic. but they can do a 5 speed convershion on the ka if u would like fgor 500 labor plus parts up here at hybrid dynamics, they can swap to a sr for 1000 labor and 5 speed and sr for about 1250. basicley they find a junked one at mahronies (local import yard) and they get the clut and brake assy's and a crosmember and everything else hydrolic lines they take it slap it in the automatic. as far as sr swaps....read the FAQ 5 times then read it 20 more......bookmark every link in there read up on it in ur spare time, evetualy u'll find the shops and the parts u desire, remember tho don't come on here and ask were u can buy and aluminum wing hubcaps and some led washer lights no one will talk to u ever again, if you understand the jdm consept...its Speed over looks....and if the best thing about the jdm look no big wings. its wangan wing clean look mild body kit no 19 inch chrom rims here.....fora first import car u gota lota crap ur gona take from these folks.....i dunno how exactley to proove myself to them but, to me i'me not jdm, i'me me! i like cars w/0 body kits that look clean i don't like wild shit, i like speed, i like seein good swaps like rb26dett's but my theroy is keep it in the famliey don't put ford 305's in ur nissan.....just my thing......these guys don't like newbies......but what the hell they were too at some point.....




offf sumbject........yes i love s13's no i don't own a silvia i own a 240sx, and my car will never be a silvia or a rps13 or any of that it is what it is!
so....go buy an auto and when u got money geta sr20 witha 5speed swap like me.....sept i been thinkin about a rb20 even tho u need sum costom intake n exaust.....no one cares to help you??? ok use google.....


GOOGLE YOU MAH ONLY FRIEND!

LEARN HOW TO USE PUNCUATION!!

that will help us to like you more.

btw, it doesn't matter for SHIT if you're "JDM". in fact, i HATE the word "JDM" now because SO MANY PEOPLE throw it around for everything, and half of the time nowadays, it's in the wrong context.

half of the guys on here are KA24 fans. they turbo it, they tune it, they love it. how can they be "JDM" with a US-only engine? it doesn't MATTER if you're JDM, as long as you have the right attitude towards the car. don't take a 240 and rice it up with aluminum wings, APC parts, fart cans, neons, gay graphics or huge ugly body-kits. DON'T make your 240 into a show car. 240's were meant to tear up the track (whatever kind of track that may be), not to sit on a show-room floor. DON'T do up your car just because it's the latest fad, and don't do it up just to make OTHER people happy. do what YOU want to your car and don't give a fuck what other people think about it. if you build a 240SX and want to learn how to drift or get an SR20DET swap just because you saw it in Super Street and you think it'll gain you respect, then you're doing it for all the wrong reasons. do it because YOU want to and because it'll make YOU happy. me? i've had people telling me not to get a 240SX because so many people have them nowadays. i've wanted a 240SX for 6 years now, and now i'm finally at the point where i can get one. those entire 6 years, i've also wanted an SR20DET swap, WAY before anyone even knew what they were. just because a bunch of show-car newbies are buying the car and the engine doesn't mean SHIT to me. i'm going to buy my 240SX and put an SR20 into it because I want to and it'll make ME happy. i love the SR, i love the 240SX. this is why i want to build one, NOT because it's "cool", NOT because other people will think i'm "cool". i do it because i love the car and it will make me happy.

if you take this attitude towards your car and actually USE it, then you will get respect in here. the only newbies that get our guff in here are the ones who come in and say something like:

"i just saw a 240SX for the first time in Super Street and i read on the internet that alot of people think they're cool so i was wondering where i can get an SR20DET? and also where can i learn how to drift? i just saw drifting for the first time and all my friends think it's cool so i want to look cool and leanr how to drift."

those people would not even get a reply from me, because that's EXACTLY the wrong kind of person to own this car. 240SX's are old! they're unreliable! modifications are expensive, and things will break! but in order to love the car, you have to learn to accept and respect those facts. me? i know it's an old car, and i know things will break, and that's all part of the 240SX experience. and i don't care how much it costs to modify, i want to do it because i love the car, and only the best, most high quality parts will go on my car, no matter the cost. i also want to learn to drift, not because i'll look cool, but because i love the rush and the skill and concentration that it takes. i've loved drifting for as long as i've loved 240SX's.

so there's my shpiel, take it as you will. that's how i view the world of 240SX, and if you follow my simple guidelines and take the correct attitude towards your car, you will earn the respect of the "veterans" of the 240SX community.

oh, and READ THE FAQ! it's there for a reason. :)

publicenemy137
10-05-2003, 08:59 PM
jeez learn how to spell.

Anyways yeah automatic-to-conversion kits are out there, you do got to buy a new tranny and do some other tweaks. I've never done it myself so I wouldn't know how hard it is, sounds hard though. I'm a newb myself and I have asked some newb questions on the forums, but people have helped me and they aren't nasty like the way you portray them to be. I've asked help and I have received it, and for everyone that has helped me I thank them. So far I've never gotten a nasty response or anyone trying to flame me. But yeah the best source of information I have learned is just to research yourself, everyone has their own opinions and interest so there is no one right thing to do, it's all preference. I was planning on getting an SR20DET before, but after researching and reading people's responses, I'm sticking to the KA24.

grncivicdhr
10-05-2003, 09:42 PM
if your doin an s13 and you wanna do it cheap, look into the ca18det. thats the route i want to take with my '91. by the way, i finally go to drive the car today and the tanabe gf210 springs are nice as shit.

spindrift187
10-05-2003, 10:10 PM
From what I've read/seen on maxima sites the auto-to-manual swap is a pain in the ass to do yourself. I'd get it done by a shop. The 6 speed isnt generally used for the 240SX's, not sure but I've heard they are weak. Although it doesnt seem to deter Yashio Factory. I was in the same shoes you were when I got my first 240SX, it was my first real sports car (Celica doesnt count :biggrin: ), wish I woulda heard of this site back then. As Iketani said, you'll do fine here as long as you stay away from asking stupid questions like the one he posted. Everyone here has been nothign but useful to me. But do like everyone has said and read the FAQ's! Welcome.

ghostchild316
10-06-2003, 12:23 AM
Where's Dorikin?:D

I wonder how he would respond to this dude:devil:

CrzyMR2T
10-06-2003, 12:39 AM
dorikin and i were fighting about something, i forgot what it was, but he wouldnt stop, so dorikin got banned for a week, his week should be almost up by now.

SR20DETpower
10-06-2003, 07:00 AM
I hope that kids Mr2 gets owned by a Nissan micra lmfao

Two_4tee_2NR
10-06-2003, 11:32 AM
sorry, i was ina bad mood that day, but still...i've posted things that are good questions, likemy rb20 sr20 question. no one realy answerd my question, its like i missed somthing. i was in a bad mood i didn't mean to step on peoples toes. i leared everything i know from all a you guys so i thank you!

mynismo
10-06-2003, 11:50 AM
offf sumbject........yes i love s13's no i don't own a silvia i own a 240sx, and my car will never be a silvia or a rps13 or any of that it is what it is!
so....go buy an auto and when u got money geta sr20 witha 5speed swap like me.....sept i been thinkin about a rb20 even tho u need sum costom intake n exaust.....no one cares to help you??? ok use google.....


GOOGLE YOU MAH ONLY FRIEND!
reasons you will not be respected in this forum


u
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thinkin
i been thinkin
rb20 even tho u need some custom intake and exhaust (i won't even start to go here)
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just get out of here

J SPEC SilEighty
10-06-2003, 11:58 AM
Welcome Razor_Wing :wave:

Razor_Wing
10-06-2003, 02:08 PM
Ok, when I mentioned super street, I think some of you got the wrong damn picture! I'm NOT rice, far from, I don't want my car to look like a "junk yard" car or anything, but I also don't want it to be the first thing noticed on the road either. I've had a saying for a while, kinda lame, but "go fast BEFORE you look fast". I'm not insulting rice (kinda), I like ricers! Ricers are fun to beat because they have no Idea how a car could beat their stock civic with a 5grand body kit. lol. I perfer a bit more of the "sleeper" look. I want to repaint it a "bliz" silver or something similar. I'll probly get some body stuff, but none of that "in your face" look, some Carbon Fiber (yasho factory hood :D) and mabie the grams light front end and stuff. But ALOT will be done to engine, and I plan on Tien suspension stuff. I'd like to drift some, but that's not really my style. And I'm NOT going with anything because it's a "craze", hell, if I went with the local "craze" I'd have like a 69 'stang or something! UGGLY shit! What I ment by being corruped by super street and sport compact is that I've seen and read some of the stuff about the 240 and notticed the HUGE ammount to potentional it has! So many diffrent kinds of swaps and all, and you can even put the engine of the "holey grale" in, the Skyline GT-R R33 or R34! I LOVE those things! :D. And it's RWD! Most Ricers have POS FWD cars that can'd do shit! especially most up here! Just had to straiten that up. And I don't really care if I have forum members respect or not, or wether I can fucking spell! I do what I want and what I like, And I don't give a shit any other way. Thx for the help guys!

Razor

Razor_Wing
10-06-2003, 02:15 PM
reasons you will not be respected in this forum


u
u got
geta
witha
sept
thinkin
i been thinkin
rb20 even tho u need some custom intake and exhaust (i won't even start to go here)
tho
u
sum
costom
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mah



just get out of here

ouch! harsh lol. :nono: :lol:

Suislide
10-06-2003, 03:05 PM
dorikin and i were fighting about something, i forgot what it was, but he wouldnt stop, so dorikin got banned for a week, his week should be almost up by now.

i don't know if you noticed, but you were also banned until yesterday. you and another member were in a fight before, a while back, and i warned you that next time, you'd be gone for good so CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY and WATCH YOUR ASS! because i don't care who starts it, the next time i see you in shit with someone else, you're gone for good.

Dorikin's week was also up as of yesterday.

SR20DETpower
10-06-2003, 03:13 PM
get a S14 muhahahha!

welcome to the board


can I start a fight with mr2? that would rule!

:chair: :banhim:

stealthj
10-06-2003, 08:53 PM
haha mr2 was also banned, and dorikin shouldent have been banned

auto>manual not that hard ive been told, i was at a 240sx meet yesterday, and one guy did it in one day he said....

but anyways, BRIAN, your saying 240sx nto meant to be a show car??

WOW insane in the membrane

240's are BEAUTIFUL CARS COMPARED TO ALMOST ANYTHING

who agrees with me that 240's can be show cars?

poeple people calm down, forums is for people to get info, if some kid starts asking how can i drift or something, just DONT REPLY, let their THREAD GO DOWN THE LIST, even if they say i wanna be cool and drift, leave it alone.....

anyways yesterday at the norcal240meet, i saw like 30 240sx's, it was the most 240's id ever seen!, i also saw my old fastback!, it had a dent in it

i dunno why people fight on these forums, what can you do about the kids wanting 240's to rice them up, nothing, so just live with it and ignore it,,,

BRIAN, 240's can be show cars!

look at the gpsports ones!

Razor_Wing
10-07-2003, 08:08 AM
auto>manual not that hard ive been told, i was at a 240sx meet yesterday, and one guy did it in one day he said....

but anyways, BRIAN, your saying 240sx nto meant to be a show car??

WOW insane in the membrane

240's are BEAUTIFUL CARS COMPARED TO ALMOST ANYTHING

who agrees with me that 240's can be show cars?


BRIAN, 240's can be show cars!

look at the gpsports ones!

I agree, ANY car can be a show car, as long as it's clean enough, if/when I get one and get it "fixed up" (the one I'm looking at it REALLY pretty rough), I'll probly take it to shows! But I don't think ANY car (well, except those ones that drove with the dinos, lol) should be a "show only" car, like trailerd and all, lol. I take my fiero to shows, and drive it all the time too, nothing wrong with entering a car in a car show.

Auto to Man in one day??? WOW! I wish I was that skilled and well equiped, unfortunitly, I think I'm going to have to get a shop to do it for me, I'll probly do the auto to man at the same time I do the SR20DET (unlesss I chose another engine) swap, just because you can buy the engine and tranny together, so no reason to get a 5speed for a KA too, lol. waist of money and time.

As a 3rd note, how much does the SR20DET weight over the stock KA24E? And how much does the Skyline engine weight (can't remember what the engine is called :( )? Thx! haha, looks like I might be getting a little respect after all :D yeay :grinno: :lol2:

(I HATE muscle cars!)

stealthj
10-07-2003, 10:43 AM
sr20det weighs less i think, but that dosent matter does it, ? i know u werent really thinking about how much the engine weighs...

Suislide
10-07-2003, 11:38 AM
i'm not saying they CAN'T be show cars, i'm saying they SHOULDN'T. they're incredibly capable track cars and were built to drive, not to sit on a show-room floor, even though they look good. GP Sport's cars are probably USED as well as shown.

also, if you have some sort of discrepency with my moderation choices, then i'd like to see you do a better job. it's not easy, and i do what i see fit. if you have something to take up with me, do it through PM's and not in threads.

stealthj
10-07-2003, 11:40 AM
it wasnt directed at you

it would be great if i got to be a moderator though~

mynismo
10-07-2003, 12:11 PM
ouch! harsh lol. :nono: :lol:
he deserved it. lol

you're fine with me, at least you can type :p

Razor_Wing
10-07-2003, 03:35 PM
sr20det weighs less i think, but that dosent matter does it, ? i know u werent really thinking about how much the engine weighs...

Well, a little, but that would'nt be the deciding factor or annything ;). Weight is ALWAYS a consederation, but I know there is SO much more to the SR20 then that. Like DOHC, Turbo, and redline of like 7500 or so.

Does the SR20DET have variable valve timming, i read somewhere that there is a verson that does.

stealthj
10-07-2003, 03:51 PM
i think blacktop s14's or s15's have it,

the older ones do not

why would you want it anyway?

Razor_Wing
10-08-2003, 01:56 PM
i think blacktop s14's or s15's have it,

the older ones do not

why would you want it anyway?

I think it's cool and it's more torque and HP too :D. I'm not too fimilar with it (having only owned domestics and pretty much only worked on domestics), is there something wrong with it or does it have any disadvantage (sp?)?

GT-R dude, I can type, just can't spell too well, but I try, lol :banghead:

Dorikin
10-08-2003, 04:24 PM
Welcome newb...Since you joined when i was away, you dont know who I am. As the others will tell you, Im a wealth of info..but watch out.

Fliquer
10-08-2003, 05:38 PM
SCC isnt that bad. Dont lump it in with super street.

Razor_Wing
10-08-2003, 05:39 PM
Welcome newb...Since you joined when i was away, you dont know who I am. As the others will tell you, Im a wealth of info..but watch out.

ook...then please....feel free to answer my questions...and I know more then you think, I'm trying to get used to the import sceene as quickly as possible, and I think I'm doing pretty good, lol. 2 weeks ago I would'nt have known what a SR20DET, much less know some of it's attributes and how to read the engine codes (by they way, is there and what is the code on an engine for varriable valve timming? DOHC has a code, so does "spec-V"?). You seem like a cool dude, and I've read about you. But I'm not scared either :grinno:

Dorikin
10-08-2003, 05:42 PM
Spec V

V=the variable valve timing code.

However the only SR with Variable valve timing was a truck motor, unlike the KA...

BTW, why did you get into the "import scene"

The 240SX aint the import scene...dont lump us in with that shit.

The import scene is all drama, and listening to rap music and thugging it up, even thoguh you live in the burbs.

The 240SX community, is all about chilling, workin on your buddies car, and shaking your head at ricers. This board may not reflect it, but thats how it is. Let the good times roll...

Razor_Wing
10-08-2003, 06:33 PM
Spec V

V=the variable valve timing code.

However the only SR with Variable valve timing was a truck motor, unlike the KA...

BTW, why did you get into the "import scene"

The 240SX aint the import scene...dont lump us in with that shit.

The import scene is all drama, and listening to rap music and thugging it up, even thoguh you live in the burbs.

The 240SX community, is all about chilling, workin on your buddies car, and shaking your head at ricers. This board may not reflect it, but thats how it is. Let the good times roll...

Is there any disadvantage to "spec V"? And that IS the import sceene to me ;). I'm getting into it because I'm TIRED of domestics! America makes WAY too many POS cars and I don't like any they make now that are price worthy! Plus I'm starting to think the Japinese can make more power out of a given displacement and weight then the americans can! The 2.8L 60* V6 in my fiero weights about 350lbs and does'nt put out any more HP or TRQ then the stock KA24, but the KA weights less! Plus my dad is a "hard core" domestic and I'm tired of him down talking all non american cars as crap when I know they are FAST. Lots more reason, just a fiew for you man ;). and the other imort sceene you were talking about (rap one), is NOT me ;), so rest assured!

Is there something like a SR20DETV (what's the order for the V?)? that'd be swee...I think!

Suislide
10-08-2003, 06:42 PM
Is there any disadvantage to "spec V"? And that IS the import sceene to me ;). I'm getting into it because I'm TIRED of domestics! America makes WAY too many POS cars and I don't like any they make now that are price worthy! Plus I'm starting to think the Japinese can make more power out of a given displacement and weight then the americans can! The 2.8L 60* V6 in my fiero weights about 350lbs and does'nt put out any more HP or TRQ then the stock KA24, but the KA weights less! Plus my dad is a "hard core" domestic and I'm tired of him down talking all non american cars as crap when I know they are FAST. Lots more reason, just a fiew for you man ;). and the other imort sceene you were talking about (rap one), is NOT me ;), so rest assured!

Is there something like a SR20DETV (what's the order for the V?)? that'd be swee...I think!

SR20VET.

i forget what the truck is called, but it was only available in an SUV. something around 274hp. i've heard it cannot be installed into a 240SX.

spitz7985
10-08-2003, 06:48 PM
Super Street is shit. i can't even read that crap. the car articles dont even tell you anything, just what parts the guy put on. i was reading about an sti converted to rwd. i wanted to know why it was converted and the author didn't explain it, just mentioned it. also, the car clearly had carbon fiber fenders and other body panels, which was also overlooked completely in the article.

SCC, on the other hand, has some great tech articles and describes the cars very well.

SCC weighed their SR20 and KA24. the sr was ~50lbs lighter with the turbo assembly. 50lbs off the front gives the 240 perfect 50/50 front to rear weight distribution.

if i remember correctly, the RB25 weights about 100-150lbs more than the KA. PM NightXCZ77 (does he post on this board?) if you wanna know more about this swap.

the newer sr20s had VVT, but the s13 head were better flowing. its your choice. i would get the s13 redtop b/c it is cheaper and with the extra money i save, i could upgrade the turbo and turn up the boost.

J_Spec_NiTeMaRe
10-08-2003, 06:50 PM
Is there any disadvantage to "spec V"? And that IS the import sceene to me ;). I'm getting into it because I'm TIRED of domestics! America makes WAY too many POS cars and I don't like any they make now that are price worthy! Plus I'm starting to think the Japinese can make more power out of a given displacement and weight then the americans can! The 2.8L 60* V6 in my fiero weights about 350lbs and does'nt put out any more HP or TRQ then the stock KA24, but the KA weights less! Plus my dad is a "hard core" domestic and I'm tired of him down talking all non american cars as crap when I know they are FAST. Lots more reason, just a fiew for you man ;). and the other imort sceene you were talking about (rap one), is NOT me ;), so rest assured!

Is there something like a SR20DETV (what's the order for the V?)? that'd be swee...I think!



1. There only disadvantage to variable valve timing is that when you start to make huge horsepower, it becomes unreliable. You see this alot in VTEC Hondas. They will make alot of oil pressure, causing the VTEC solenoids, amongst other things to fail. Someone else can answer in full detail, but my main point is loss of reliability.

2. America makes too many piece of shit cars? Shall I give you a ride in my car to change your mind?

3. Japanese, not japinese.

4. I'm glad you're starting to understand horspower per liter ratios, but you should learn a little more before you shoot off about it. Imports, nameley 4-cylinders, make more horsepower per liter cause the HAVE to, not because americans are too stupid to figure out how to do that too.

5. Stop winking.

6. And no, it's not SR20DETV. The variable valve timing was introduced in the S14 SR20s. So its more like 1995 SR20DET. Spec V.

7. For future reference, there is system to how companies name their motors. SR refers to the model of the car(i think) 20 refers to 2 liter. D is dual cams. E is for electronic fuel injection. T is for turbo.

using that, you can figure out how man liters, turbos, and cams are on any nissan engine. hondas do that too.

spitz7985
10-08-2003, 07:00 PM
i dont know about #4 dude.

if americans engineers could figure out how to make the same hp they are making now with a smaller, lighter engine, why dont they do it?
not that i'm a domestic hater- i LOVE C5 z06s. other than that, i really don't like any new domestics. old muscle cars are cool as hell, but not my style at all.

SR20DETpower
10-08-2003, 07:11 PM
yeah if you thought about it, what if you somehow combined two B18 Integra Type R motors lets take for example, or even 2 H22's. Or 2 S2000motors, forget abbreviation.

Basically put these would be their relative HP outputs in a naturally aspirated v8... and still with less displacement then domestics

b18.... 3.6L V8 400hp....
H22.... 4.4L V8 430hp....
F20?.....4.0L v8 500hp...

I've never seen a stock v8 american engine do even 400hp on 4.4L's.....

Now you must factor in, that it would have less torque and more then likely a different power band. but what a Honda does on 4 cylinders with less then half the displacement of average performance v8's(302-350)is something to look at.....

thoe closest, but with forced induction, would be the new Supercharged Stang motor. I believe it puts out 380hp on a 4.6L supercharged engine.....

Dorikin
10-08-2003, 07:27 PM
Ok, lets straighten this out.

Super Street IS shit. Its no better than any toilet paper rice mag. SCC is better. No mag will ever be good unless we write it thoguh.

SR20VET was in the X-Trail, think JDM Xterra.

RazorWing-you have ALOT to learn. Sit back and soak up the knowledge. Ignorance is a cardinal sin here.

Hp/l is a moot point. Hp is hp, torque is torque. More hp/l=less low end torque where it counts. AFAIK, hp/l is an argument ricers use when they have nothing left to say.

Suislide
10-08-2003, 08:25 PM
Ok, lets straighten this out.

Super Street IS shit. Its no better than any toilet paper rice mag. SCC is better. No mag will ever be good unless we write it thoguh.

SR20VET was in the X-Trail, think JDM Xterra.

RazorWing-you have ALOT to learn. Sit back and soak up the knowledge. Ignorance is a cardinal sin here.

Hp/l is a moot point. Hp is hp, torque is torque. More hp/l=less low end torque where it counts. AFAIK, hp/l is an argument ricers use when they have nothing left to say.

only thing SS is good for is the pictures. they feature some NICE ass cars, so as soon as i get an issue, i don't even bother reading the shitty KA-bashing Ricky Poo-poker articles. i just attack the pictures. i'm planning to make a collage on my wall out of all the good ones, such as Top Secret RB26 JZA80, Yashio Factory 240SX, Vertex Ueno Soarer, Taniguchi's S15 etc. etc. and of course i want to keep my issue intact that i got signed by Kosuke Kida, Atsushi Kuroi and Kazuya "Chunky" Bai at the Signal Drift Exhibition last month. :biggrin:

hp/l doesn't always eliminate torque. S2000 is the highest hp/l car right now, but think of some of the others, like Ferrari's and other exotics. they have gobs of HP as well as admirable torque.

stealthj
10-08-2003, 11:39 PM
sucks that super street brought you into the "import scene"

Razor_Wing
10-10-2003, 05:10 PM
1. There only disadvantage to variable valve timing is that when you start to make huge horsepower, it becomes unreliable. You see this alot in VTEC Hondas. They will make alot of oil pressure, causing the VTEC solenoids, amongst other things to fail. Someone else can answer in full detail, but my main point is loss of reliability.

2. America makes too many piece of shit cars? Shall I give you a ride in my car to change your mind?

3. Japanese, not japinese.

4. I'm glad you're starting to understand horspower per liter ratios, but you should learn a little more before you shoot off about it. Imports, nameley 4-cylinders, make more horsepower per liter cause the HAVE to, not because americans are too stupid to figure out how to do that too.

5. Stop winking.

6. And no, it's not SR20DETV. The variable valve timing was introduced in the S14 SR20s. So its more like 1995 SR20DET. Spec V.

7. For future reference, there is system to how companies name their motors. SR refers to the model of the car(i think) 20 refers to 2 liter. D is dual cams. E is for electronic fuel injection. T is for turbo.

using that, you can figure out how man liters, turbos, and cams are on any nissan engine. hondas do that too.

1. I did'nt know how it'd be called.

2. I NEVER said american company's only made POSs, I said no "reasonably (sp?) priced" good cars, don't take things out of context. I can name a fiew EXCLENT american cars....but they are all like 60k+, except the crossfire. Things like the 'Vettes, GT40, kinda Viper, etc. But they are FAR from within my price range.

3. I alredy said I can't spell for shit, you don't have to be a jeark and point it all out!

4. I higly disagree here. WHY in the HELL would they HAVE to make more power??? They don't, they do it because they CAN. I know american car manufactures can make some good power too, like the LS1. And why DO they HAVE to make more power out of a given displacemnt? If that's true, then why put an LS1 in a 'vette, they don't HAVE to, they WANT to. I NEVER said americans are stuiped either. Stop putting words in my mouth jerk.

5. I'll wink ALL I want, if you don't like...then go away! ;););););) Happy!?!?

6. AGIAN, I was'nt saying that's what i'd be called, I was trying to figure it out! Hence why I asked!!!

7. REALLY? Where did you learn that one? I new that...thank you! You're don't give me enough credit. I'm not an iddiot like you think, and I'm not being a JERK like you, stay off my post! I don't care what you have to say anymore!

Razor_Wing
10-10-2003, 05:27 PM
Ok, lets straighten this out.

Super Street IS shit. Its no better than any toilet paper rice mag. SCC is better. No mag will ever be good unless we write it thoguh.

SR20VET was in the X-Trail, think JDM Xterra.

RazorWing-you have ALOT to learn. Sit back and soak up the knowledge. Ignorance is a cardinal sin here.

Hp/l is a moot point. Hp is hp, torque is torque. More hp/l=less low end torque where it counts. AFAIK, hp/l is an argument ricers use when they have nothing left to say.

I do agree SS is shit, but I like the pictures...hehe...I can't resist the BLITZ Skyline and 180SX :D. That's all I like it for!

I know I have alot to learn...

I know of the HP-Trq trade off's, I said I was new to imports, not cars. With out low end trq, you got now acceleration, but with no top end power you got no...top end power...(can't think of any other way to say it, lol).

Razor_Wing
10-10-2003, 06:59 PM
only thing SS is good for is the pictures. they feature some NICE ass cars, so as soon as i get an issue, i don't even bother reading the shitty KA-bashing Ricky Poo-poker articles. i just attack the pictures.


I agree! I buy SS for the pictures, not much else! The articles SUCK, but I kinda like reading some of the lists of things that have been done to cars. Did you see the BLITZ 180SX??? WOW! ME LOVE! :D

J_Spec_NiTeMaRe
10-10-2003, 10:05 PM
Razor, you're a newbie trying to start a flame war with someone older smarter, and better-liked than you. And you're acting like a mod, telling people to stay off a post. You're NEW and you're acting like you own the forum. The only person who can tell someone to stay off it, is who owns it. You don't own AF, thanks. You also like to shoot off backwards, evidence-lacking theories. These are all the fastest ways that I can think of to get banned, but suit yourself.

And just because you got too stuck up on me being a smartass, you decided to ignore the fact that I answered your infantile questions. I gave you answers, newbie.

Suislide
10-11-2003, 01:34 AM
let me remind Razor Wing not to respond to that in an unfriendly manner...

keep it friendly guys. it's all just discussion, no need to get worked up. it's all gravy.

Razor_Wing
10-12-2003, 04:19 PM
Razor, you're a newbie trying to start a flame war with someone older smarter, and better-liked than you. And you're acting like a mod, telling people to stay off a post. You're NEW and you're acting like you own the forum. The only person who can tell someone to stay off it, is who owns it. You don't own AF, thanks. You also like to shoot off backwards, evidence-lacking theories. These are all the fastest ways that I can think of to get banned, but suit yourself.

And just because you got too stuck up on me being a smartass, you decided to ignore the fact that I answered your infantile questions. I gave you answers, newbie.

Sorry man, bad day. You just don't have to be so....harsh about it. And I did'nt tell you to say off the forum, just not to reply, lol. but sorry man...happy? :banghead: :biggrin:

Oh yeah, and if anyone knows where a cheap S13 (prefrebly DOHC) is on the east coast or someone has one for sale, I wanna know :D. And the engine does'nt matter. I live in Western NC, so as close as possible :D. thX

stealthj
10-12-2003, 10:25 PM
Sorry man, bad day. You just don't have to be so....harsh about it. And I did'nt tell you to say off the forum, just not to reply, lol. but sorry man...happy? :banghead: :biggrin:

Oh yeah, and if anyone knows where a cheap S13 (prefrebly DOHC) is on the east coast or someone has one for sale, I wanna know :D. And the engine does'nt matter. I live in Western NC, so as close as possible :D. thX
"preferably dohc"

"engine dosent matter"

brian your selling your infiniti?

Suislide
10-12-2003, 10:51 PM
"preferably dohc"

"engine dosent matter"

brian your selling your infiniti?

i already did. the tranny was going to cost too much to replace, and i didn't want to put that much into the car just to get it back to STOCK when i could find another car for the same price that's already running and use that extra money to mod it. plus, it wasn't really the car i wanted all along anyways. i bought it because it was a good deal, not because i necessarily wanted it. turns out it wasn't such a good deal, but i made profit on the sale, and i'm now looking for a hatch 240SX for under $2000 Canadian.

oh, and it was SOHC btw.

stealthj
10-12-2003, 11:22 PM
oh th engine doesent matter and dohc thing wer diffrent from the question i asked u , but thanks for the resposone lol

its cool that u made a profit on it, now u can look for the 240 finally, dont settle like i did and get a convertible or soemthing useless!

i dunno if 240s in canada are as rare as they are here though

good luck...lateZ

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