Civic Vs Eclipse

How would a 2000 Honda Civic Ex Coupe compare to a 1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS?? (both are stock).


How much HP does the Eclipse have??


Which would win?

The Civic would lose.

eclipse = 140hp.

Really I think its even cuz the rs eclipse sucks. I see them stock at tracks running like 16.5 mas o menos. You should be able to keep up with him or beat him I think.

I have a question to add. Which car is more dependable,lasts longer,and cheaper to tune?

I'd vote for the Civic.

yea, i vote for the civic also.

eclipses weigh in at a porky 3100 lbs. Im not sure about your 2000 civic, but my 91 civic weighs 2180lbs with full interior minus driver....

the civic would win.

ok thanks guys! :naughty:

Wrong.

Eclipse RS weight = 2,723
Eclipse RS HP = 140
Eclipse RS Tq = 130

Overall in reliability id take the Honda any day of the week. As for if your going for a sporty/ nice look id take the eclipse.

Comes down into a race that the eclipse does have more TQ than the civic does and more HP, thus a more potent engine to tune. Yet the Civic has a smaller engine, yet is very light. I believe the RS will win. Yet it wont destroy the Civic. It will be a close race. As for tunability The RS would be the car of choice concidering its possibilies of ripping parts off used GSX/GST parts. Relatively Cheap to do. T25s go for 150 dollars now a days with only 50k miles on em.

[QUOTE=chris26969]Wrong.

Eclipse RS weight = 2,723
Eclipse RS HP = 140
Eclipse RS Tq = 130

Ok but who gives a shit about these numbers. Eclipse suck, known fact. I will take on any eclipse in my car no matter how modded up it looks, I know what my car can do to it. 95 civic ex has more options and its just honda. Besides the evo, what car has mitsu came out with that is any good? None in my mind. But hey, again its all about personal opinion. I would go with a civic any day over the eclipse. Plus eclipses are ugly and everyone that has them goes with that same ugly ass blitz body kit that they saw in F&F.

I personally like the look of the Civic over that of the Eclipse. :naughty:

eclipses are girl's cars. Just like cabriolets

yeah I like the look of pretty much any civic better than an eclipse... and i have seen more than my fair share of broken down @ss eclipses

HONDA!!!!

thnx guys

vtw whats a t25? Is it a turbo?

P']thnx guys

vtw whats a t25? Is it a turbo?

Yeah, the T25 is the turbo off of the Eclipses that came stock turbo'd.

oh ok thanks

If you were to get an used t25 what other parts do you need to make it work>?

lol, This is funny. pure ignorance. First off the Eclipse RS vs Civic Ex would be close. 2nd, saying that you could smoke any eclipse is a joke. My gsx would destroy your civic, I own a civic also. Im not ignorant or biased to any car. Your just a moron.

It be close but i think might be civic (drivers race though) and RS stands for Really Slow huk huk.

you guys gotta be kidding me. you know how cheap it is to makes a eagle talon tsi, or a eclipse GSX/GST run low 13's? all it takes for a first gen to run 13's is intake, down pipe, test pipe, exhuast, and 16psi off boost running on the 14b turbo. then you can run a 13.3 quarter mile. the seconds gens are kinda iffy since the "T25" turbo is kinda dinky and small and can't make anything more then 16psi of boost, and when it does run 16 psi its not flowing very efficently. but still i garantee you you compare you preciously little v-tec honda's and put the same amount of mods in it, then you put that same amount of mods in a turbo eclipse and the eclipse will rip that honda a new asshole. plus the stock 4G63 is proven to hold over 400 hp on stock internals. it would take some crazy ass tuning to get a typical 4 cylinder honda block to take 400hp. its been done but not very common. bottom line is. hondas are nic reliable cars. i hate eclipses at well, but the eclipses strenght is in there ease of moding. plus you can easily put a 16G-20G turbo in those cars. that same talon that ran a 13.3 at the 1/4. we installed a 20G turbo in iit, and only runnin 14 psi it felt like it can pull harder then my car in the rain compared to how my car pulls in the dry,. and my car makes over 280hp. so don't think all eclipses suck.

civic would win, the rs's are just a joke

[QUOTE=chris26969]Wrong.

Eclipse RS weight = 2,723
Eclipse RS HP = 140
Eclipse RS Tq = 130

Ok but who gives a shit about these numbers. Eclipse suck, known fact. I will take on any eclipse in my car no matter how modded up it looks, I know what my car can do to it. 95 civic ex has more options and its just honda. Besides the evo, what car has mitsu came out with that is any good? None in my mind. But hey, again its all about personal opinion. I would go with a civic any day over the eclipse. Plus eclipses are ugly and everyone that has them goes with that same ugly ass blitz body kit that they saw in F&F.


Ouch, ok that hurts. The only thing my eclipse ever sucked is 16 psi. I bet you can beat any eclipse on how modded it looks. But most real dsmers do engine work first before that o so ugly body kit. yeah a honda is the most moddified and has the most aftermarket parts available. But dsm's are 2nd to none. Id race ya starting at the back of my car. run around, get in, start up, and granny launch. Then after passing you about speed limit speed. Id slow down and tell ya its my blitz kit makin all that psssst sound you heard as i walked your parents payed honda civic. dsmers are tuners, not accessorisers or ricers. So next time ya think you can beat an eclipse, race a turbo with that front mount, and i bet hed be parked,eating cheeseburgers by the time you caught up. This is alittle dramatic, but all in all race a dsm tuner not an eclipse and you got yerself a race.

SpyderEclipseGst, hondaracer, start playing nice both of you, or this thread is dead (probably should've killed it a while ago), and BOTH of you get a warning.

For reference, one of my friends had a 1995 five-speed RS Eclipse with I/E, and I ACTUALLY raced him (as opposed to speculation), with my 1997 Civic LX 4-dr(RIP) with only an I/E/shortshift at the time. Granted, I'm probably a better driver than him, but from a roll and from a stop, I used to edge him by up to one whole car at times. So there.

whoa whoa whoa, where is the love???
who cares which car is better?, each has it's own strengths and weaknesses and of course it all depends on the driver...

Hoq much would u need to spend to geta rs or gs into 13's? a civic?

for a civic you need atleast and engine swap. then from there you need to add eitehr a turbo still or just do major n/a mods such as cams, remapped ecu, new intake manifold striped interior etc. for a RS or GS to run 13's you would need to get a turbo kit then boost hte hell out of it, which i do not recommend becuase those motors are not known to be the strongest things around.

ok thx

how much hp can u make a 95-99 rs or gs for under 5 g's?

how long do these engines last(stock)? and with a turbo?

well you can probrably get 200 wheel hp with a GS turbo, you can get that done for around 5G's. they should last you a long time if its done right.

as for Eclipses, The GS,RS models were more along the lines of a dodge engine. Also made in the USA. Up until around 95. As for the GST and the GSX was the mitsu engine which was alot stronger and completely different than the GS,RS engine. The GS,RS usually ran to around 130k and killed itself. Nothing great. Yet still a car that you can buy cheap w/ 50k miles on them.

ok thx :) :)

for a civic you need atleast and engine swap. then from there you need to add eitehr a turbo still or just do major n/a mods such as cams, remapped ecu, new intake manifold striped interior etc. for a RS or GS to run 13's you would need to get a turbo kit then boost hte hell out of it, which i do not recommend becuase those motors are not known to be the strongest things around.

h22 civic is a 13 second car with only i/h/e if not stock. (so ha! :biggrin: j/k)

as for the race...who cares, its a drivers race, ur better, u beat him, ur worse, u lose. simple as that.

how much do h22 have powa? whats the cost?

P']how much do h22 have powa? whats the cost?

Here are the specs for the JDM & USDM H22 motors, as well as in what car/year they were found.

The H22A from the 5th gen 97+ JDM Prelude Type S (chassis code BB) is 2157cc, 11.0:1 c/r, 220HP@7200rpm, 163 lb/ft of torque@6500rpm.

The H22A from the 5th gen 97+ JDM Prelude SiR (chassis code BB) is 2157cc, 10.6:1 c/r, 200HP@6800rpm, 161lb/ft of torque@5500rpm.

The H22A1 from the USDM 5th gen 97-98 Prelude (chassis code BB6) is 2157cc, 10.0:1 c/r, 195HP@7000rpm, 156 lb/ft of torque@5250rpm.

The H22A from the USDM 5th gen 99+ Prelude (chassis code BB6) is 2157cc, 10.0:1 c/r 200HP@7000rpm, 156 lb/ft of torque@5250rpm.

The H22A1 from the USDM 4th gen 94-96 Prelude VTEC (chassis code BB1) is 2156cc, 10.0:1 c/r, 190HP@6800 rpm, 158 lb/ft of torque@5500 rpm.

The H22 from the 4th gen JDM 92-96 Prelude VTEC (chassis code BB) is 2157cc, 10.6:1 c/r, 200HP@6800 rpm, 161 lb/ft of torque@ 5500rpm.

The H22 from the 5th gen JDM Accord SiR (chassis code CD) is 2157cc, 10.6:1 c/r, 190HP@6800rpm, 152 lb/ft of torque@5500rpm.

thanks bro

P']thanks bro

No problem, thats what we're here for. Glad I could help.

The 2.0 NT 1G DSM's (1989-1994) came with an NT version of the turbo 4G63 (9.0:1 vs. turbo 1G of 7.8:1) and some other differences. The 2G NT's ('95-'99) came with the 420a, a SOHC chrysler engine found in the neon and in avengers/sebrings. Anyways, I think it'd be close, but I'm thinking the Eclipse would win...but then again I am biased.

this is funny, i've actually seen this race before, but it was the gs, the eclipse won
they were both bone stock, it barely won though, and like you guys have been saying, it had a lot to do with the driver.
and the kid saying he'll destroy any eclipse is saying a very very bold statment, i own a vr4 and i wouldn't even ever say that. thats actually a dumb statement :screwy:

How would a 2000 Honda Civic Ex Coupe compare to a 1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS?? (both are stock).


How much HP does the Eclipse have??


Which would win?

The thing is .. your runing agesnt the LOWEST class of eclipes there is .. so its nothing to really brag about if you do beat a rs .. cuz the only people that fix them up is people that are not racers and are all for show ..
the challenge is beating a GS-T or GS-X ... thats somthing to talk about ... with the bad ass 4G63 in it ..

I love how alot of you guys down eclipes .. but when you roll up on a gs-t or gs-x .. yo ubetter have a few grand droped in to it to at lest keep up with a stock one ... ya wow .. so maybe some of you beat a rs gs or new v6 modle .. but those are not true performence .. im not downin civic's .. but i see about 15 civics a night .. and maybe 1 or 2 can even hang with a stock eclipes ( gs-t / gs-x ) and cant do shit with a mod'ed one .. and thats only the hevy tunes civic's and for the people thats out from 12-4 in the morning hitn the streets up .. they no that the imports taht rule the streets are the suby's and the mitu's so why dont some of you people get out on the street and stop racen you show car buddies and see whats really goin down ..

h22 civic is a 13 second car with only i/h/e if not stock. (so ha! :biggrin: j/k)

as for the race...who cares, its a drivers race, ur better, u beat him, ur worse, u lose. simple as that.

LOL ... ive seen your h22 cars .. 13's ? yaaaaaa.......... your a funny one .. you better add one of two things to your message .. 3 more sec's or 3 more grand

LOL ... ive seen your h22 cars .. 13's ? yaaaaaa.......... your a funny one .. you better add one of two things to your message .. 3 more sec's or 3 more grand


Just an add on. It took a turboed h22 crx to beat a 3500 lb 97 spyder gst (moderately modified, /w stock t25 at 19 psi on 18's. I only have $900 invested in my engine. And they all dont give out performance(I/C pipes, Bov, etc. With an aditional $600 (evo3 super 16g) gst cars been proven to run mid 12's. sorce? dsmtuner.com, 1/4 mile times, 99 gst ran 12.7 on street tires. not even a gsx, which would have been lower, ALOT lower. With just $1500 in the engine its all over for any civic who aint running a t3/t04 turbo(or the like), 2000lbs, h22 with nitrus.....Not taking away from the preludes and acura's or hatches/crx's that are moderately modified and can beat some gst's/gsx's. But with a gst/gsx vs civic of the same mods just wont do the job.

The thing is .. your runing agesnt the LOWEST class of eclipes there is .. so its nothing to really brag about if you do beat a rs .. cuz the only people that fix them up is people that are not racers and are all for show ..
the challenge is beating a GS-T or GS-X ... thats somthing to talk about ... with the bad ass 4G63 in it ..
^ someone knows what there talking about in this forum. :smile:

ANNNND, this thread dies, before it turns into another Honda VS Mitsubishi flamefest.

Besides, everybody knows Nissan's are best...

























...just kidding :p