General CRX questions, only yall can help

first off what are the differences between the

si
dx
hf

which is the best? which should I get?

which one versions have power windows, doors+locks? which version have the moon roof and how does that work i.e. is it similar to a moonroof on a 2000 honda civic ex sedan? I been loooking on ebay and it seems the back interior is different on these cars, some look like its a backseat or a big cargo space what is that back there? can i fit a bike or snowboard or wassuP?

I am interested in purchasing one as a daily back up driver, an perhaps pimp it out, but I'm in WI, wit cold winters....

I have one lined up 1990 si 130k, I'm offer $1500 see what he says, he did say there is a grinding noise shifting into 4'th gear? what could that mean? also what else should I look for when I go to purchase this car? its used, private seller?

thanks all

one

check out this site for crx info http://www.quickhonda.net/index2.htm

a lot of your questions can be answered also by doing a search here. $1500 is a great price for a CRX Si.

If you're looking to do an engine swap, the si would be the smartest choice. You won't have to buy a lot of extra parts (like axles, shift linkage, ecu, vtec wire harness, engine mounts, etc.) if doing a b series swap. You mentioned it would be a back up car it doesnt really matter how fast it gets, but 1500 for an si is a good price like Lady said, so you might as well get that. It already comes with a D16A6 (108 hp) which is a good engine to have if you wanted to "pimp it out"

oh yeah, and the grinding noise in 4th gear, should check the synchro, may be worn

thanks all but loyalty not being what it used to be, while I was waiting for yall to respond dude called me cuz he got an offer of $1700 and since my line was busy being on the internet he didn't wait and jus told me he sold it to somebody else....

ah well, more research for me i guess

peace

incident thanks for all the hlep and info went on that site

DOPE


but I didn't find anything on a honda crx sir

what is the mysterious CRX siR that I have been hearing about?

one

the "SiR" you speak of is JDM (released in Japan). only way you will find one here for sale is if it has already been imported....or import one yourself. it will be rare you find one for sale in the US.....and if you do it will most likely have an expensive price tag.

okay I went to that site while informative it did not have the answers I was looking for.


the differences between the

si
dx
hf

which is the best? which should I get? i want moon roof first of all and power windors and all that jazz....


let me now

one

the only crx i know of having the power windows is the Japaneese version.

HF-is the lightest and has MPFI
DX-Has most the si upgrade except the MPFI, Sunroof
SI-Has MPFI, 90-91 Came with all wheel disc brakes, sunroof

cool thanks, thats what I was loooking for

waht is MPFI? what does that mean?


also does the HF have anything else besides being the lightest? i.e. moon roof?



thanks again

cool thanks, thats what I was loooking for

waht is MPFI? what does that mean?


also does the HF have anything else besides being the lightest? i.e. moon roof?



thanks again
http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/how-to's/mpfi_conversion.htm

the "SiR" you speak of is JDM (released in Japan). only way you will find one here for sale is if it has already been imported....or import one yourself. it will be rare you find one for sale in the US.....and if you do it will most likely have an expensive price tag.



the SiR was also released in europe.......

the SiR was also released in europe.......

:nono:

the EDM (european version) was called the VT 1.6i...aka the EE8 :bigthumb:

edit: before you say there isn't a difference between the edm & jdm, there is. the huge main difference: edm = LHD and jdm = RHD

:nono:

the EDM (european version) was called the VT 1.6i...aka the EE8 :bigthumb:

edit: before you say there isn't a difference between the edm & jdm, there is. the huge main difference: edm = LHD and jdm = RHD



was it still powered by a b16a? did it still have the same suspension as the EF8? its 1.6i VT BTW.....and there are some EDM RHD cars......tisk tisk :nono: :nono:

was it still powered by a b16a? did it still have the same suspension as the EF8? its 1.6i VT BTW.....and there are some EDM RHD cars......tisk tisk :nono: :nono:

:disappoin if you knew the difference in the first place then you wouldn't have called it a SiR :screwy:

i don't know why you want to try and talk like you know something i don't. here...let me enlighten you on the ENGINES & some other differences:

Top model of the 4th generation Honda Civic was the JDM (Japanese domestic market) SiR (EF9). It is equipped with the 1.6L DOHC VTEC engine (B16A) that delivers 160hp @ 7600rpm. The VTEC system is tuned for optimal performance unlike some later VTEC engines like the 5th gen. EDM (European domestic market) VEi, SOHC VTEC, tuned for fuel-efficiency and the VTEC-E(conomy) models (VX). The B16A was a very technical advanced engine for its days and still is today. It is a short stroke 4 in-line that delivers its max. hp at 7600rpm and the redline is at a astonishing 8000 rpm. Later generations B16A's can be found in the next generations Civics' and in the Del Sol (CRX for Europe).

Europe's equivalent of the SiR was called 1.6i VT (EE9). Although it was also equipped with a B16A engine (B16A1) and the same SiR front-end there are many (small) differences. For one the EDM version ‘only’ has 150hp (SiR 160). The exact reason for this is not very clear, the head is the same but the VT does not have a knock sensor. A theory is that the EDM VT has a different ignition timing and is detuned because of Octane ratings (JDM 98RON, EDM 95RON).
The VT has slightly different gear ratio's, also the SiR has the speedometer in the center of the gauge cluster, the VT has a "normal" layout. The biggest difference off course is that the SiR is right-hand drive and the VT left-hand drive (except for the UK and Irish models).
Both the SiR and VT have rear disk brakes and larger ventilated disks in front. The suspension also improved and is (compared to the other 4th gens) different in many ways.
The B16A engine was also available in the JDM CRX (EF8) and EDM CRX (EE8). Again the CRX 1.6i VT and SiR have a different front-end and the VT has 150hp and the SiR 160hp. Also the VT has a lot more goodies than its little brother the 1.6i-16 (1.6L DOHC) like full leather seats, power windows, power mirrors, low fuel indicator light etc.
For some reason there has never been a USDM (United States domestic market) 4th gen Civic/CRX VTEC. The Si (1.6L SOHC) was the US top model. But off course there are a lot of hybrid 4th gens with the 1.6L DOHC VTEC and non-VTEC engines.

:disappoin if you knew the difference in the first place then you wouldn't have called it a SiR :screwy:

i don't know why you want to try and talk like you know something i don't. here...let me enlighten you on the ENGINES & some other differences:

Top model of the 4th generation Honda Civic was the JDM (Japanese domestic market) SiR (EF9). It is equipped with the 1.6L DOHC VTEC engine (B16A) that delivers 160hp @ 7600rpm. The VTEC system is tuned for optimal performance unlike some later VTEC engines like the 5th gen. EDM (European domestic market) VEi, SOHC VTEC, tuned for fuel-efficiency and the VTEC-E(conomy) models (VX). The B16A was a very technical advanced engine for its days and still is today. It is a short stroke 4 in-line that delivers its max. hp at 7600rpm and the redline is at a astonishing 8000 rpm. Later generations B16A's can be found in the next generations Civics' and in the Del Sol (CRX for Europe).

Europe's equivalent of the SiR was called 1.6i VT (EE9). Although it was also equipped with a B16A engine (B16A1) and the same SiR front-end there are many (small) differences. For one the EDM version ‘only’ has 150hp (SiR 160). The exact reason for this is not very clear, the head is the same but the VT does not have a knock sensor. A theory is that the EDM VT has a different ignition timing and is detuned because of Octane ratings (JDM 98RON, EDM 95RON).
The VT has slightly different gear ratio's, also the SiR has the speedometer in the center of the gauge cluster, the VT has a "normal" layout. The biggest difference off course is that the SiR is right-hand drive and the VT left-hand drive (except for the UK and Irish models).
Both the SiR and VT have rear disk brakes and larger ventilated disks in front. The suspension also improved and is (compared to the other 4th gens) different in many ways.
The B16A engine was also available in the JDM CRX (EF8) and EDM CRX (EE8). Again the CRX 1.6i VT and SiR have a different front-end and the VT has 150hp and the SiR 160hp. Also the VT has a lot more goodies than its little brother the 1.6i-16 (1.6L DOHC) like full leather seats, power windows, power mirrors, low fuel indicator light etc.
For some reason there has never been a USDM (United States domestic market) 4th gen Civic/CRX VTEC. The Si (1.6L SOHC) was the US top model. But off course there are a lot of hybrid 4th gens with the 1.6L DOHC VTEC and non-VTEC engines.



ok since its obvious that you a MODERATOR are trying to flame someone ASS(thats you)uming that i do not know what i am talking about, first of all the information you cited is from a website, and its very pathetic information at that, not to mention that it is in main regards to the EF9 and not the EF8 (although the differences are finite) congrats you can copy and paste from a website, now if you will be so kind as to look at this:

http://www.cr-x.org/home/jdmspecs.html

you will learn that while that piss poor example of a site that you PLAGARIZED from does have some truthful information this site is FAR better at describing the differences, the EDM interiors of the SiR aka 1.6i VT (not VT 1.6i) are far better (full leather, seat warmer option) and the speedometers on the EDM versions are all cable driven rather then electronic VSS driven, interior differences

http://www.cr-x.org/home/differences/interior.html

exterier differences

http://www.cr-x.org/home/differences/exterior.html

mechanical differences

http://www.cr-x.org/home/differences/mechanical.html

now if you would like to continue this WITHOUT BEING A BITCH then i would gladly choose to do so, but if you would like to continue being a bitch then please do not respond to me because you assume that i am some retard who doesnt know shit, and if that is your ASS(again thats you)umption then you obviously do not know who you are talking to

you obviousily have issues with people in power :evillol:

not being civil? LMAO...you're the one calling names and getting your panties in a bunch because you mis quoted info.

plagarized? how does one copy their own info from their own site? :grinno:

you really are :screwy: you say that the 1.6i & SiR have the same engine. why don't you check the link you left. it 100% backs up what i say with the same 150hp rating and it lists the gear ratios which are different from the SiR. you really need to read what you are replying to. the last reply i left refered to the CRX & CIVIC.

now if YOU care to have a CIVIL conversation, not get pissy when you leave incorrect info, and READ the links you leave....then you can continue. if you can't play nice then you will not be allowed to play.

you obviousily have issues with people in power :evillol:

not being civil? LMAO...you're the one calling names and getting your panties in a bunch because you mis quoted info.

plagarized? how does one copy their own info from their own site? :grinno:

you really are :screwy: you say that the 1.6i & SiR have the same engine. why don't you check the link you left. it 100% backs up what i say with the same 150hp rating and it lists the gear ratios which are different from the SiR. you really need to read what you are replying to. the last reply i left refered to the CRX & CIVIC.

now if YOU care to have a CIVIL conversation, not get pissy when you leave incorrect info, and READ the links you leave....then you can continue. if you can't play nice then you will not allowed to play.


i know what i posted and i did not call names first, you started with the name calling, second of all there are many different variants of the b16a tranny and all are geared differently and there is no consistency with these trannys and where they were installed, second of all i was already aware of the 10hp difference but the fact is that you ASSUME that people dont know as much as you because you are a moderator, please girl, just because someone calls a european 1.6i vt an SiR when thats not what honda called it (although it was still an SiR made for the european market) you got your thong in a wad......chill out and realize that you are not god and you do not know everything, also realize that you may think you know a lot, but trust me you have not even begun to scratch the surface of me or what i know so back up offa these

gear ratios
crx SiR
Y1 tranny
3.166
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.266


crx VT
Y2 tranny
3.250
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.133

gear ratios

gear ratios
crx SiR
Y1 tranny
3.166
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.266


crx VT
Y2 tranny
3.250
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.133

gear ratios


congrats, now here you go

http://www.bseries.net/html/specs/btrannyspecs.php


isnt that special

i know what i posted and i did not call names first, you started with the name calling, second of all there are many different variants of the b16a tranny and all are geared differently and there is no consistency with these trannys and where they were installed, second of all i was already aware of the 10hp difference but the fact is that you ASSUME that people dont know as much as you because you are a moderator, please girl, just because someone calls a european 1.6i vt an SiR when thats not what honda called it (although it was still an SiR made for the european market) you got your thong in a wad......chill out and realize that you are not god and you do not know everything, also realize that you may think you know a lot, but trust me you have not even begun to scratch the surface of me or what i know so back up offa these

you need some SERIOUS help. all i said was i dunno why you were talking like i didn't know what i was saying. then you called me an ass and a bitch and trying to asct like i'm abusing my mod enfluences. GO BACK AND READ

there is different variants of the tranny but you said and i quote

was it still powered by a b16a? did it still have the same suspension as the EF8? its 1.6i VT BTW.....and there are some EDM RHD cars......tisk tisk :nono: :nono:

like i said...go back and check your link. it has 2 different colums....1 for SiR and 1 for VT. wouldn't you know there is a 10hp difference and 2 different trannys. YOU said they were they were the SAME ENGINE....not i.

you may THINK you know a lot. if you really did then you wouldn't have said the engines were the same....you wouldn't have called the the VT a SiR....and you would have realized the link YOU left backed up what i said

how sad...you really need to re-read this thread. it's sad you have to get so offended by a girl who corrected you :disappoin

sorry sean price that your thread is getting ruined.

you need some SERIOUS help. all i said was i dunno why you were talking like i didn't know what i was saying. then you called me an ass and a bitch and trying to asct like i'm abusing my mod enfluences. GO BACK AND READ

there is different variants of the tranny but you said and i quote



like i said...go back and check your link. it has 2 different colums....1 for SiR and 1 for VT. wouldn't you know there is a 10hp difference and 2 different trannys. YOU said they were they were the SAME ENGINE....not i.

you may THINK you know a lot. if you really did then you wouldn't have said the engines were the same....you wouldn't have called the the VT a SiR....and you would have realized the link YOU left backed up what i said

how sad...you really need to re-read this thread. it's sad you have to get so offended by a girl who corrected you :disappoin

sorry sean price that your thread is getting ruined.



so you are telling me that the JDM b16a and the EDM b16a1 are different engines? right so honda decided to make 2 completely different engines from the same cast? uhhh no, as discussed on a few sites it is a guess that the ECU is the cause for the 10hp difference, not any internal engine differences, i am not mad that someone corrected me, it is the fashion in which you did it....so maybe you should rethink how you approach things, i know that you feel that you have something to prove because you are a woman and this is a male dominated scene, but save your estrogen for your boyfriend because i dont need that shit......you sadden me :banghead: :banghead:

so you are telling me that the JDM b16a and the EDM b16a1 are different engines? right so honda decided to make 2 completely different engines from the same cast? uhhh no, as discussed on a few sites it is a guess that the ECU is the cause for the 10hp difference, not any internal engine differences, i am not mad that someone corrected me, it is the fashion in which you did it....so maybe you should rethink how you approach things, i know that you feel that you have something to prove because you are a woman and this is a male dominated scene, but save your estrogen for your boyfriend because i dont need that shit......you sadden me :banghead: :banghead:

they are both b16a1 but they are not both 160hp. that is not correct to sit there and say they are the same thing with the same set-up. the VT & SiR have different trannys...you never even mentioned that. i NEVER said anything internal made the 10hp difference.

there is nothing wrong with what i said. i simply stated i don't know why yopu were acting like i knew nothing. you need to rethink YOUR approach. i find it funny you are acting as if you didn't call me a bitch, an ass, and then you continued to show us what a big man you were by making real adult remarks like

you got your thong in a wad...... and but save your estrogen for your boyfriend because i dont need that shit......

ummmm, yea...you show me 1 remark where i called you a foul name or tried to disrespect you as you tried to disrespect me. you think you were being whitty. try again. you keep claiming i corrected you in an unfair manor & called you names as YOU talk shit :disappoin

sorry sean price it's obvious where this thread is going.

if you check the links you will find there is a difference in the JDM SiR and the EDM VT (civic or crx). there are big differences like the LHD or RHD or there are little differences like in the interior.

bottom line....they are similiar but NOT THE SAME