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First fun turbo race....


04m3blugsr
09-24-2003, 02:44 PM
Finally.....I have had my turbo for 2 weeks and only been in 2 fun races. I raced an 96 z28 with intake and exhaust and a 96 porche carrea and won both races by a car or more... So anyways last night I'm driving home from a friends house when 5 neon srt-4 zoom up 2 me..I guess it was a turbo neon crew...seems weird to me but hey....Anyways the neons stock run high 13 low 14 so I was excited to see how my car would do against them. They all had aftermarket exhuast and loud as hell bov... So they are fucking with me thinkin my teg is a "normal" teg...then I give a little boost and let them hear my bov... this is when they got all excited....;) Finally me an one of the guys catch a red light and he is looking at me talking shit how he is going to smoke me....so I just stay calm.... light turns green we both get a decent launch.. every gear I pull about half a car untill end of third....He would shift and I could hear the loud ass bov about 1500 rpms before me....that is why I love having a turbo gsr with an 8200 redline.....Anyways after the race him and none of his friends wanted anymore... guess the guy I raced had the fastest car in the group... best race I've probally had ever... neon was faster than the z28 an porche...those are fast little cars.....just wanted to share with you guys...late..

96 acura integra gsr
custom laguna seca blue paint
17" lightweight hyper black 5zigen fn-o1r
droped on coils 4"
greedy turbo kit
greedy front mount intercooler
blitz bov
custom exhaust with revoultion muffler...
need to get the fuckin turbo tuned...but runing fast as hell how it is

BLU CIVIC
09-24-2003, 02:50 PM
niiiiiiiice :smokin: :thumbsup:

esp
09-24-2003, 03:04 PM
nice u got any pics of your car. i am interesting in seeing ur setup

carrrnuttt
09-24-2003, 04:27 PM
96 acura integra gsr
custom laguna seca blue paint
17" lightweight hyper black 5zigen fn-o1r
droped on coils 4"
greedy turbo kit
greedy front mount intercooler
blitz bov
custom exhaust with revoultion muffler...
need to get the fuckin turbo tuned...but runing fast as hell how it is

Nice kills, but, even if you just paid for it, and somebody else installed, please have the decency to spell Greddy right...and YES, please post pics.

Ricochet
09-24-2003, 10:12 PM
Kickass job bro, definitely feed our hungry eyeballs with some pics! It's good to see some people around here with VERY fast Hondas (wish I could be one of them :()

-The Stig-
09-24-2003, 10:29 PM
Nice kills, but, even if you just paid for it, and somebody else installed, please have the decency to spell Greddy right...and YES, please post pics.



Greedy sounds about right though... if you take a look at the price of turbo kits from them... it's dead on. :lol2:

99civic03
09-24-2003, 11:00 PM
Maybe Im just a skeptic, but this smells like :bs: I dunno, I just dont tend to believe people who make claims like this with no pics of their car, and who spell things like Greddy wrong, twice. Come on man...5 SRT 4's? Show me some pics of the engine, and Ill beleive you.

Ricochet
09-24-2003, 11:03 PM
could be bs, he is afterall just some noob... I think pics of the race would be nice like I've done before :)

04m3blugsr
09-25-2003, 12:39 PM
Ok guys first of all I'm not a newbe.. I'm 21 and had 3 project cars I've been working on my integ for 3 years....I don't have any reason to lie.. Also I spelt greddy wrong because I was rushing trying to write and get ready for work at the same time..as for pic of my baby they are coming tonight....then all the haters will see.....later guys

Ricochet
09-25-2003, 01:28 PM
Just because he's had 4 posts doesn't mean he's bs'ing.
04m3blugsr - can you post some pics tonight?

99civic03
09-25-2003, 06:00 PM
then all the haters will see

Im not a hater, just a skeptic. If you show us some proof, pictures, timeslips, something of that sort, then everyone will beleive you, and you wont have this problem.

esp
09-25-2003, 06:05 PM
i agree, post some pics tonight so we dont have to raise the flag on this

civicHBsi91
09-25-2003, 09:00 PM
It's good to see some people around here with VERY fast Hondas (wish I could be one of them ) Tuning! you have a good motor just tune it right, or you could gut the back of your hatch you'll notice the difference

Come on man...5 SRT 4's?
they are 20,000 not very rare, hell just this saterday there was a crew of 4 black GN's runnin around here that would be less believable but really happend so...whatever

Ricochet
09-26-2003, 11:36 AM
you could gut the back of your hatch you'll notice the difference
You mean like this? Been done for a while now, and yeah I noticed quite a bit of pickup.. I'll probably put my sub back in before Winter though, I miss having bass.

04m3blugsr
09-26-2003, 12:35 PM
Pics will be up 2night..... I tried last night but the board was down????

kittedb18bt
09-26-2003, 04:20 PM
Ok guys first of all I'm not a newbe.. I'm 21 and had 3 project cars I've been working on my integ for 3 years....I don't have any reason to lie.. Also I spelt greddy wrong because I was rushing trying to write and get ready for work at the same time..as for pic of my baby they are coming tonight....then all the haters will see.....later guys

nobody is calling you a newbie to cars altogether. just look what it says underneath your username. we are just calling you a newbie in terms of forum use. here at AF we are willing to accept anyone-we just need proof first.

civicHBsi91
09-26-2003, 05:07 PM
You mean like this? take out the panels seat belts etc even the speakers it made alot of difference to me

DjiNN_Inc
09-26-2003, 05:53 PM
hey do you have aim or msn or something? I have gsr hatchback and i want to go turbo... and i hae a coupel of questions... since you already have gone through it .. you could prolly help me a little :)

04m3blugsr
09-26-2003, 10:52 PM
dude how do I post my pics on here???? and I'll help you with your turbo hatch just ask your list of questions and I'll answer them...

DjiNN_Inc
09-26-2003, 10:57 PM
well i want to know if i should put a turbo kit on the stock internals? or is it better to do intenrals first.... then put turbo....... if i do turbo on the stock internals ... whats highest psi i can run? i dont have a very big budget..... so i have to go slow.

DjiNN_Inc
09-26-2003, 10:58 PM
im looking to get low 13s........ but i really would like to run 12s sometime in future :)

fnkdrspok
09-26-2003, 11:28 PM
What i want to know is what turbo kit (if any) is he running and how many pounds of boost also? My boy with a GST running a stock turbo pushing 19 lbs of boost got toasted by a SRT-4. And I THOUGHT his car was fast. All the SRT-4 had was a louder BOV. I have a GSR engine on my balcony that I have in pieces waiting for the shop to get ahold of the block to sleeve it. So I'm going be doing the same thing basically. I want to know what he's done to the engine and what setup he's running so I can spank SRT-4's on the fly.

FnkDrSpok

civicHBsi91
09-27-2003, 12:49 AM
gst's are high 14 low 15 sec cars pushing 19psi on the stock turbo might get him to mid 14's if hes a good driver, srt's are running low 14's stock he should have gotten beat......

Ricochet
09-27-2003, 12:01 PM
GS-T's really aren't that fast compared to the psi numbers you see. There was a guy at the track last year running 25 psi and got low 14's...

chuckhatch
09-27-2003, 12:35 PM
5 srt 4 neons.....i suppose its possible but i d be pretty stoked to see that crew roll by...?

Ricochet
09-27-2003, 02:42 PM
5 srt 4 neons.....i suppose its possible but i d be pretty stoked to see that crew roll by...?
even moreso if I beat them all

banditkiller
09-27-2003, 03:00 PM
25 psi and only ran a 14? wtf? go over to the eclipse board and tell them a 19 psi gst might noly run a 14.....lol OUCH.....To civichbs19....Theres a guy names aaron running around gb in his 98 gst....pushing 15 psi... running low 13's his best run at crapital was a 12.8x .....14's......ick...time for new drivers, AND I believe you bout the gnx's in gb... :iceslolan ppl just dont know.

Ricochet
09-27-2003, 03:18 PM
25 psi and only ran a 14? wtf? go over to the eclipse board and tell them a 19 psi gst might noly run a 14.....lol OUCH.....To civichbs19....Theres a guy names aaron running around gb in his 98 gst....pushing 15 psi... running low 13's his best run at crapital was a 12.8x .....14's......ick...time for new drivers, AND I believe you bout the gnx's in gb... :iceslolan ppl just dont know.
still, a Civic with a GS-R swap boosting 25psi will get low 12's... just goes to show that Honda engines are better than Mitsu's when it comes to tuning. I know a guy on another board with a turbocharged Civic Type R pushing 40psi, and he gets high 10's.

banditkiller
09-27-2003, 04:42 PM
Their tuning is better? LOL not neccesarily...40 psi and only 10's??...Im not claiming to know much about hodna tuning...cuz my knowledge is somewhat limited ...but a gsr swapped civic only turning 12's with 25 psi? Can you ppl not drive? 25 psi is alot. 40 is even more . So tell me what gives? Ive seen my share of turboed hondas. None of them running nearly that much boost, and running much faster than the theorhetical times you have come up with. If ya wanted to go domestic vs import which can always be fun :banghead: lets build an ls1 to stand 25 psi ...the occompanying supspension ugrades fror traction and see where it goes...but we wont go there. Either way , at 25 psi on gsr you should be alot faster than 12's period. adn as for showing that their tuning is better.... its sad....seeing as ya could ask him....for example there is a black 91 crx si running a b16. turbo . its black.. no more than maybe 12 psi and ran an 11.88......
so in his instance his tuning is better...or maybe its the fact he was on slicks and his car is gutted....25 psi and only 14's in a gst eclipse. Dont see that happening for any reason other than driver. Ok im done...



"still, a Civic with a GS-R swap boosting 25psi will get low 12's... just goes to show that Honda engines are better than Mitsu's when it comes to tuning. I know a guy on another board with a turbocharged Civic Type R pushing 40psi, and he gets high 10's."

banditkiller
09-27-2003, 04:44 PM
I have typos due to lack of sleep. You can ask civichbsi91 bout some turbo hondas back in the great gb..........ok i dont see the point in that but w/e.

04m3blugsr
09-27-2003, 09:28 PM
Hey got in another race guys .... 99 ss camero with exhaust beat him 1/2 a car twice... he was amazed said he has never been beat by and import and that he runs high 12 low 13.. better feeling than spanking those srt4s.... heres pics...

04m3blugsr
09-27-2003, 09:36 PM
On the question on if you should boost a stock internal gsr... hell yea I'm only running 7psi and look at the cars I'm spanking... stock gsr can handle 12psi for limited time can run 8-10 daily driver...I can't wait for a boost controller.. if you want to run faster and arn't happy beating 330hp ss cameros upgrade internals...I'll probally build mine up I already wanna be faster......

KrNxRaCer00
09-27-2003, 09:43 PM
any pics of the turbo motor bay?

04m3blugsr
09-27-2003, 09:49 PM
no i'll take those tomorrow... look at the pic of the front of my car.. you can see the front mount intercooler..i'll get pics of under the hood so you really belive me i guess....

carrrnuttt
09-27-2003, 10:32 PM
still, a Civic with a GS-R swap boosting 25psi will get low 12's... just goes to show that Honda engines are better than Mitsu's when it comes to tuning. I know a guy on another board with a turbocharged Civic Type R pushing 40psi, and he gets high 10's.

What are you talking about? Do you know just how high 25lbs of boost is?

Let's put it this way: the stock SR20DE in my car, boosted to 20psi, makes about 400WHP, and can run low 12's, high 11's. That's in a motor with turbo-ready internals (same rods/crank as the SR20DET), and a MUCH lower compression ratio. With that, that is about the ABSOLUTE limit of boosting with that motor. For the turboe'd SR20DET, 25lbs is about the absolute safe limit when it comes to stock internals.

A GS-R with stock internals will NEVER support 25lbs of boost, at least if you plan to keep it running more than two days. Now, if you spend approximately about 5-grand in properly-built internals, then you may be able to boost that high...not for a prolonged-period though, still. Meaning in normal, daily-driving, you'd turn-down the boost to maybe 18-20.

A b18c, boosting that high (25lbs), should run a lot faster than 12's...maybe mid-11's.

Now, about your friend with the 12:1 stock-compression CTR motor (I'm assuming), what did he do to support 40lbs of boost? I would like to know the secrets...

fnkdrspok
09-27-2003, 11:51 PM
still, a Civic with a GS-R swap boosting 25psi will get low 12's... just goes to show that Honda engines are better than Mitsu's when it comes to tuning. I know a guy on another board with a turbocharged Civic Type R pushing 40psi, and he gets high 10's.

I know this is like beating a dead horse but I know a SOHC 96 coupe running 12's with a FMAX kit on slicks and he has stock internals (upgraded axles) which means he's not running more then 12 lbs at the track. He's actually trying to sell that kit so that he can get a new engine but I know he's had that kit on that car for at least a year. A few glitches and still running strong.

Point is, if you don't get lower then a 11 sec quarter mile with a "BUILT" GSR engine running 25 lbs then you can't drive and you need to just make a show car.

FnkDrSpok

civicHBsi91
09-28-2003, 01:47 AM
I know this is like beating a dead horse but I know a SOHC 96 coupe running 12's with a FMAX kit on slicks and he has stock internals
FnkDrSpok
this kid happen to live in md where you used to live and does it happen to be black?

fnkdrspok
09-28-2003, 11:55 AM
this kid happen to live in md where you used to live and does it happen to be black?

I know who your talking about, he races with the Glen Burnie crew and he went to Inline Pro (i think that's the name of the shop in VA) but he has a black coupe with a turbo. He lost to a friend of mine, silver CRX also running a turbo setup.

But the orignal car I was talking about was this car down here in Texas. A mexican dude drives it back and fourth to work and has little to no problems. He also has that Turbo XS dual stage boost controller which he switches on to get on it when he needs to.

FnkDrSpok

civicHBsi91
09-28-2003, 12:42 PM
yea thats him, i dont ever remember seeing any silver turbo crx's tho around here or at parkway or anywhere else in md, did you drive the same car while you were here?

fnkdrspok
09-28-2003, 02:57 PM
yea thats him, i dont ever remember seeing any silver turbo crx's tho around here or at parkway or anywhere else in md, did you drive the same car while you were here?

yeah, this was out dundalk on a sunday night, the same night the black dude with the prelude raced a gray 300 z tt and won. The crx is kitted up, painted, rims, and running pretty stout. And yes, I was driving the same dark blue 95 civic with a big ass wing and rims and grill inserts, since, I took the wing off. I had a Hondasport sticker in the front windshield. You might of seen me on the pkwy.

FnkDrSpok

civicHBsi91
09-28-2003, 03:03 PM
roger with the prelude? nah i havent seen you up parkway ever, did you move to texas or just there for college or something?

fnkdrspok
09-28-2003, 03:19 PM
roger with the prelude? nah i havent seen you up parkway ever, did you move to texas or just there for college or something?

yeah, rodger i guess. All i know about him is that he has a pretty fast prelude that is all NA, unless he's running nitrous. And has a big blow out afro. haha Yeah, i moved down here to go to school and the imports are out pretty loud in these parts.

FnkDrSpok

civicHBsi91
09-28-2003, 03:22 PM
yea he sprays, big shots i believe

banditkiller
09-29-2003, 09:21 AM
HAHA I know who roger is to lol. And yes he sprays .... Who wouold ever guees he would ever be mentioned here on af.......although from waht ive been told he's been having problems with his car and he hasnt brought it out much....but then again im now a thousand miles away so i could be wrong

Creagach
09-29-2003, 12:11 PM
What are you talking about? Do you know just how high 25lbs of boost is?

Let's put it this way: the stock SR20DE in my car, boosted to 20psi, makes about 400WHP, and can run low 12's, high 11's. That's in a motor with turbo-ready internals (same rods/crank as the SR20DET), and a MUCH lower compression ratio. With that, that is about the ABSOLUTE limit of boosting with that motor. For the turboe'd SR20DET, 25lbs is about the absolute safe limit when it comes to stock internals.

A GS-R with stock internals will NEVER support 25lbs of boost, at least if you plan to keep it running more than two days. Now, if you spend approximately about 5-grand in properly-built internals, then you may be able to boost that high...not for a prolonged-period though, still. Meaning in normal, daily-driving, you'd turn-down the boost to maybe 18-20.

A b18c, boosting that high (25lbs), should run a lot faster than 12's...maybe mid-11's.

Now, about your friend with the 12:1 stock-compression CTR motor (I'm assuming), what did he do to support 40lbs of boost? I would like to know the secrets...
not to argue with you ,bro, but the sr20det engine won't sustain 25psi without upgrading the injectors, the internals can withstand it though, with the right ecu setup and injectors. i agree with you on the last quote though, anyone boosting 40psi on 12:1 compression is either lying or insane. can you say ping ping ping BOOM!!

carrrnuttt
09-29-2003, 01:57 PM
not to argue with you ,bro, but the sr20det engine won't sustain 25psi without upgrading the injectors, the internals can withstand it though, with the right ecu setup and injectors. i agree with you on the last quote though, anyone boosting 40psi on 12:1 compression is either lying or insane. can you say ping ping ping BOOM!!

I said, STOCK INTERNALS...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/screwy.gif

Never said anything about STOCK FUEL DELIVERY...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/uhoh.gif

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Creagach
09-29-2003, 04:07 PM
I said, STOCK INTERNALS...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/screwy.gif

Never said anything about STOCK FUEL DELIVERY...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/uhoh.gif

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
ok,if you want to get technical the all-mighty sr20det (bb det or gtir)
ISN"T designed for 25psi, we already discussed this (remember my first couple posts? when everyone though i was full of shit?) it CAN run 25psi but you severely run the risk of detonation. Now with huge injectors, a big fmic, water injection and an oil cooler you could do it a little more safe. Not a good idea though.
oh and i mean this with the utmost respect.

carrrnuttt
09-29-2003, 04:28 PM
Now with huge injectors, a big fmic, water injection and an oil cooler

LOL. You're not getting me. When I said stock internals, I meant stock INTERNALS. None of what you have mentioned (which I agree with, BTW), have anything to do with replacing the internals for 25psi, which the INTERNALS can hold...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/sunglasses.gif

Ricochet
09-29-2003, 04:59 PM
ok,if you want to get technical the all-mighty sr20det (bb det or gtir)
ISN"T designed for 25psi, we already discussed this (remember my first couple posts? when everyone though i was full of shit?) it CAN run 25psi but you severely run the risk of detonation. Now with huge injectors, a big fmic, water injection and an oil cooler you could do it a little more safe. Not a good idea though.
oh and i mean this with the utmost respect.
He means pistons, rings, rods, sleeve... THOSE internals.

Creagach
09-29-2003, 06:07 PM
He means pistons, rings, rods, sleeve... THOSE internals.
C'MON GUYS we went over this, it is not recommended that you boost over 20 psi on the sr20det. you CAN but you'll be flirting with disaster, after all i know of people that boost hyundai's up to 40psi but then the engine is only good for a couple of runs
NOT ADVISED!!
i happen to know a thing or two about these engines :iceslolan

carrrnuttt
09-29-2003, 08:22 PM
C'MON GUYS we went over this, it is not recommended that you boost over 20 psi on the sr20det

Well yeah, recommended...I was talking about absolute limits, to illustrate how high 25psi of boost really is.

Just like you argued that a stock SR20DE can be boosted to 20psi with stock internals, with 10-12 the recommended max-levels, so can the SR20DET be boosted to 25psi, with 18 the recommended max-level.

Creagach
09-30-2003, 10:29 AM
Well yeah, recommended...I was talking about absolute limits, to illustrate how high 25psi of boost really is.

Just like you argued that a stock SR20DE can be boosted to 20psi with stock internals, with 10-12 the recommended max-levels, so can the SR20DET be boosted to 25psi, with 18 the recommended max-level.
oh, ok so you're referring to the gtir motor, i was thinking the avenir or bluebird bbdet,or stock de+turbo. yeah actually there is one hell of a nx2000 that has a gtir motor burning race fuel, water injection, nos,boostin 25psi, does nine second 1/4 miles. At that time it was the fastest FRONT wheel drive nissan ever made, now rear wheel... thats another story (skylines :biggrin: ) . Anyways no point to argue with a fellow sr20'er so, i gotta go feed my car some V8. She likes her veggies :naughty:
and for the love of god put a header on your baby!
you don't need no stinking warantee. :evillol:

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