rear suspension photo/diagram help needed
akina_speedstars
09-24-2003, 12:59 AM
Anyone have photos or a diagram for the rear suspension on a 94-97 Honda Accord EX? Not LX or DX because those models do not have a rear sway bar.
What I really need to see is where the rear sway bar end link attaches to the trailing arm. I am installing rear-sway bars on my LX and it is not apparent where the end links attach since rear sway bars were not put on LXs.
Suspension Techniques have crappy installation instructions.
What I really need to see is where the rear sway bar end link attaches to the trailing arm. I am installing rear-sway bars on my LX and it is not apparent where the end links attach since rear sway bars were not put on LXs.
Suspension Techniques have crappy installation instructions.
BullShifter
09-24-2003, 01:34 AM
My ST rear sway bar attaches to the rear shock mounting bolts(lower). I had to bust off the welded on nut, then intstall a bracket to the rear shock mount bolt going the opposite way.
I'm not sure about the Accords but you may need EX lower control arms
I'm not sure about the Accords but you may need EX lower control arms
akina_speedstars
09-24-2003, 11:52 AM
My ST rear sway bar attaches to the rear shock mounting bolts(lower). I had to bust off the welded on nut, then intstall a bracket to the rear shock mount bolt going the opposite way.
I'm not sure about the Accords but you may need EX lower control arms
Someone at my workplace has an 5th gen Accord EX. Woo hoo.
I'm not sure about the Accords but you may need EX lower control arms
Someone at my workplace has an 5th gen Accord EX. Woo hoo.
akina_speedstars
09-24-2003, 02:34 PM
For reference purposes, if anyone needs to know where to attach the end links for a 94-97 Honda Accord LX or DX for the rear sway bar, the hole is already there since the same trailing arm is used on the EX. It is about a half an inch away from the rear brake cable attachment. Unlike Civics, you need to remove the rear wheel to access the area.
The ST rear sway bar is thicker than the stock EX rear sway bar. Sweet. The front sway bar is also thicker than stock and is quite heavy but should decrease roll a lot.
The ST rear sway bar is thicker than the stock EX rear sway bar. Sweet. The front sway bar is also thicker than stock and is quite heavy but should decrease roll a lot.
BullShifter
09-25-2003, 11:53 PM
The ST rear sway bar is thicker than the stock EX rear sway bar. Sweet. The front sway bar is also thicker than stock and is quite heavy but should decrease roll a lot.
The larger front bar will cause more understeer - understeer = slow! On FWD you want to focus on the rear more than the front - opposite for RWD.
The larger front bar will cause more understeer - understeer = slow! On FWD you want to focus on the rear more than the front - opposite for RWD.
akina_speedstars
09-28-2003, 06:38 PM
The larger front bar will cause more understeer - understeer = slow! On FWD you want to focus on the rear more than the front - opposite for RWD.
Hai. I bought the front and rear sway bar set and installed both. So the front sway bar is thicker (thus causing understeer as you mentioned) but that is balanced out with the new rear sway bar (which didn't exist on the original car). Now, it feels like there is neither oversteer or understeer, i.e. I go where I want to go with needing to compensate.
Hai. I bought the front and rear sway bar set and installed both. So the front sway bar is thicker (thus causing understeer as you mentioned) but that is balanced out with the new rear sway bar (which didn't exist on the original car). Now, it feels like there is neither oversteer or understeer, i.e. I go where I want to go with needing to compensate.
BullShifter
09-28-2003, 09:26 PM
I also purchased a front/rear sway bar package & with both installed, the understeer is worse than it was with the stock front. The aftermarket front bar now collects dust and the stocker is back on the car with upgraded end link & bushings. Now the handling is awesome with the larger rear & smaller front - along with other my other suspension mod's. I'm talkin' for a civic, a heavier accord will have different results with sways.
akina_speedstars
09-29-2003, 10:18 AM
The Accord is heavier all around and much more in the front compared to a Civic. I've test driven a Civic, the understeer wasn't that bad (or at least I thought it was better compared to a Golf and a Jetta I owned) and with it's overall lighter weight and shorter body, had a sportier feel than the Accord (which rides like a typical family sedan).
I've test driven a CRX. That was a really nice ride with stock suspension. However, I can see that car being very harsh with updated struts.
I've test driven a CRX. That was a really nice ride with stock suspension. However, I can see that car being very harsh with updated struts.
akina_speedstars
10-08-2003, 04:27 PM
I have updated my struts to Tokico HPs. Now, the ride is the same when driving normal but tighter when turning hard. Now, I feel a little bit of understeer with the stiffer struts. But, it's almost like steering is less sluggish so that's a good thing.
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