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Who makes a kit of the 550/575 Maranello Ferrari?


jeru
09-23-2003, 11:10 AM
HELP! :iceslolan

gasman03
09-23-2003, 11:11 AM
no one does, but there is a 1:18 scale diecast

360spider
09-23-2003, 11:34 AM
Chris should make one! only he has the skills here!

Jamesonscale
09-23-2003, 01:31 PM
In 1/43rd, Provance Moulage makes the '03 LeMans cars.....around $35



In 1/24th I presume you mean, Scale Productions out of Germany has one soon to be released. 1/24th Resin and expensive in the $150 range. I am still waiting for thier e46 M3 to be released, so.....

Jay!
09-23-2003, 01:40 PM
There are 1/24 diecast as well, but they wouldn't hold a candle to a plastic peer.

larrygre
09-23-2003, 03:29 PM
There are 1/24 diecast as well, but they wouldn't hold a candle to a plastic peer.

This car is so significant. Why Tamiya didn't jump on the Maranello is still a mystery to me. Hell, they've done everything else!

73superduty
09-23-2003, 05:25 PM
I asked the same question when I first joined this group. That has got to be one of the most beautiful new age Ferrari's made. Someone definitely needs to get on that wagon and produce one.
We can all dream though....
Chris

Jay!
09-23-2003, 05:29 PM
This car is so significant. Why Tamiya didn't jump on the Maranello is still a mystery to me. Hell, they've done everything else!Well, not really...

I could see if they were going to do just the 'iconic' Ferraris: F40, F50, Enzo... I'd even include the Testarossa in that, and I can understand making the Mythos once the TR chassis and motor is tooled...

What confuses me is that they jumped into the 360 with both feet, making 3 versions straight away, while they had completely ignored the 328, 348 and 355. Surely they thought the 355 was significant, too?

Ferrari TR
09-23-2003, 06:23 PM
But Tamiya had never done any of the 'entry level' 3 series cars till the 360.
I really expected Tamiya to do a 512 tr or better yet a F512M.

I do think sales of the current Tamiya Ferrari's will pave the way for more of the marque to find its way into Tamiya's line.

:licka:

flyonthewall
09-23-2003, 06:27 PM
Well, not really...

I could see if they were going to do just the 'iconic' Ferraris: F40, F50, Enzo... I'd even include the Testarossa in that, and I can understand making the Mythos once the TR chassis and motor is tooled...

What confuses me is that they jumped into the 360 with both feet, making 3 versions straight away, while they had completely ignored the 328, 348 and 355. Surely they thought the 355 was significant, too?

I think all the nonsense regarding Ferrari licensing and Mattel was around the time the Maranello was launched so perhaps they decided not to throw all their money into it.

hirofkd
09-23-2003, 07:30 PM
Licensing fee isn't really big issue for Tamiya. It's the market, that keeps shrinking. Hard core modeler's may think that the 550 might sell, but considering the fact that Aoshima and Fujimi's street and vip cars outsell Tamiya's highly detailed sports and race car kits, I doubt it. Why so? I don't know.

ZoomZoomMX-5
09-23-2003, 11:01 PM
What? You all haven't built this one yet? :confused: :confused:
http://images1.fotki.com/v1/photos/1/10258/17860/Maranello2000-vi.jpg









Okay, the truth...Before you get all hyped up, this is a photoshop phony done by one of my more evil-minded best friends as a joke. It was many, many months before the truth was revealed. I'll get 'em eventually... :evillol: :icon16: :loser:
Our only 1/24th Maranello choices are so-so diecasts by Maisto and Burago. Maisto has better lines and wheels, Burago's has more details including engine. Kitbash and work hard, and nobody will know it's metal. I've seen it done by a local talent. I'm still holding out for plastic... :disappoin

larrygre
09-23-2003, 11:51 PM
Damn, Bob...I know its Photoshopped but ahhh. we can dream! :cool:

larrygre
09-24-2003, 12:03 AM
Well, not really...

I could see if they were going to do just the 'iconic' Ferraris: F40, F50, Enzo... I'd even include the Testarossa in that, and I can understand making the Mythos once the TR chassis and motor is tooled...

What confuses me is that they jumped into the 360 with both feet, making 3 versions straight away, while they had completely ignored the 328, 348 and 355. Surely they thought the 355 was significant, too?

Jay, point taken. They also did not do the beautiful 288 GTO, which to this day is one of my all time favorite cars, period.

Let's take a look at who did what 1980s to date prancing horses in 1/24 (not a complete list but as complete as I can get it for being dog tired!):

365GT4/BB - Eidai/Grip, Revell (ex-Eidai/Grip, modified), Nichimo
512BB - Tokyo Marui, MPC, Nitto/Entex/ESCI/AMT
Testarossa - Tamiya, Monogram, Italeri
512TR - Monogram, Rosso, Italeri
288 GTO - Italeri, Fujimi
308 GTB - Gunze Sangyo, Testors (Gunze?), Monogram, Revell
308 GTS - Revell (Magnum PI)
328 GTB - Hasegawa
328 GTS - Hasegawa
348 GTB - Fujimi, Italeri
348 GTS - Italeri
456GT - none!
F40 - Italeri, Protar, Tamiya, Revell (Italeri)
F50 - Revell, Tamiya, Lee (Tamiya clone?)
F512M - none!
550 Maranello - none!
F355 - none!
F575 - none!
360 Modena Coupe - Revell, Tamiya
360 Modena Spyder - Revell, Tamiya
Enzo - Revell, Tamiya


I also think the 456GT was another missed opportunity. Beautiful car. Bburago's diecast is so-so. Rather have plastic.

larrygre
09-24-2003, 12:08 AM
I think all the nonsense regarding Ferrari licensing and Mattel was around the time the Maranello was launched so perhaps they decided not to throw all their money into it.

Chris, at the time, there was also a pretty hefty "spat" going on between Tamiya and Ferrari, partially due to Mattel's licensing policies. I remember distinctly Tamiya actually making a public announcement that due to the "unfair licensing policies" they would no longer produce any models of Ferrari products, and if modelers wanted any of the currently available ones they better snap them up quick.

Ferrari amended their licensing practices, of course, and Tamiya rescinded their edict, but believe me, they were dead serious at the time.

But what a kit a Tamiya Maranello would have been...!

ZoomZoomMX-5
09-24-2003, 12:18 AM
Let's take a look at who did what 1980s to date prancing horses in 1/24 (not a complete list but as complete as I can get it for being dog tired!):

F355 - none!



Larry, IIRC you briefly reviewed Fujimi's F355 in Scale Auto, somebody I know (forgot who at this point) tried to get it from you at one point...it must have been one of the dozen or so that trickled into the country, it seems...they're rare as hen's teeth, but they were done. Typical Fujimi, a great idea that's a real mess to sort out because of their simplistic approach to tooling. But worth the effort...

http://images2.fotki.com/v16/photos/1/10258/17860/F355inspiration-vi.jpg

This is mine, Gerry Paquette sent it to me when he heard it was one of my holy grails. He refused payment! I have to think of something cool to send him. I love the F355's lines, the rare time when an original design looks better in updated form (the 348 looks boring to me by comparison).

I've also seen the GTS, which has a more correct interior and updated F355 chassis...it has the F355 dash, but NO door panels! They also did a Challenge version. This Berlinetta has the 348 interior and chassis.

Ahh, Fujimi. One company that tries pretty damned hard to make AMT/RC2 look good... :shakehead :banghead: :lol:

larrygre
09-24-2003, 01:00 AM
Larry, IIRC you briefly reviewed Fujimi's F355 in Scale Auto, somebody I know (forgot who at this point) tried to get it from you at one point...it must have been one of the dozen or so that trickled into the country, it seems...they're rare as hen's teeth, but they were done. Typical Fujimi, a great idea that's a real mess to sort out because of their simplistic approach to tooling. But worth the effort...

http://images2.fotki.com/v16/photos/1/10258/17860/F355inspiration-vi.jpg

This is mine, Gerry Paquette sent it to me when he heard it was one of my holy grails. He refused payment! I have to think of something cool to send him. I love the F355's lines, the rare time when an original design looks better in updated form (the 348 looks boring to me by comparison).

I've also seen the GTS, which has a more correct interior and updated F355 chassis...it has the F355 dash, but NO door panels! They also did a Challenge version. This Berlinetta has the 348 interior and chassis.

Ahh, Fujimi. One company that tries pretty damned hard to make AMT/RC2 look good... :shakehead :banghead: :lol:

Bob, I appreciate the memory jog. I totally forgot about the Fujimi F355 :uhoh:

(I did say I was tired, tho!)

I never saw the GTS. I would think Fujimi could still produce the kit, licensing withstanding. That was the black car Neil Moritz was driving in TFATF.

Agreed on the looks of the F355. Its as much of a massive improvement over the 348 as the 288 GTO was over the 308 GTB. And the 288 has this timeless muscular beauty...!:wink:

Time for me to stop posting for the night and go zzzzz...see you tomorrow!

Jay!
09-24-2003, 01:35 AM
Well... I like the 348. :dunno: Speaking of... I like Hasegawa's version. ;)

hirofkd
09-24-2003, 02:57 AM
> Larry
Fujimi made F355 GTB, GTS and Challenge.
The GTB has 348 interior and chassis, but they tooled the correct interior and chassis for the GTS, since interior is more visible. When the Challenge was issued, it had new interior and chassis.
I had to buy the Challenge, so that I can make a correct GTB, and I was going to use the Challenge wheel for something else, which I forgot now.

Fujimi can reissue their Ferraris, but they told me that Mattel said no. I guess, Mattel might have a policy to issue the license to one plastic kit manufacturer per country. But that was before IDEA was founded, so things might change. Just remember, that Fujimi "wants to" release their Ferrari kits, not that they don't.

spymaker
09-24-2003, 03:09 AM
Hello guys!

Please dont forget the classic ferrari guys! They're by all means the rarest & the most beautiful!

Do you guys remember
Ferrari p4 330 fujimi(complete with fujimi licence problem) , union & heller (it was one of the coollest ferrari ever!)
Ferrari 512S LM by Protar
Ferrari 275gtb by italeri
Ferrari 250lm by testors & academy
Ferrari 250gt California Spyder by italeri
Ferrari 250gto gunze, italeri & testors also protar
Ferrari Testarossa Spyder by italeri & Revell
Ferrari 250SWb by italeri, esci

I really missed the ferrari p4...It's very expensive in Ebay Now

Andrian aka Spymaker



















Jay, point taken. They also did not do the beautiful 288 GTO, which to this day is one of my all time favorite cars, period.

Let's take a look at who did what 1980s to date prancing horses in 1/24 (not a complete list but as complete as I can get it for being dog tired!):

365GT4/BB - Eidai/Grip, Revell (ex-Eidai/Grip, modified), Nichimo
512BB - Tokyo Marui, MPC, Nitto/Entex/ESCI/AMT
Testarossa - Tamiya, Monogram, Italeri
512TR - Monogram, Rosso, Italeri
288 GTO - Italeri, Fujimi
308 GTB - Gunze Sangyo, Testors (Gunze?), Monogram, Revell
308 GTS - Revell (Magnum PI)
328 GTB - Hasegawa
328 GTS - Hasegawa
348 GTB - Fujimi, Italeri
348 GTS - Italeri
456GT - none!
F40 - Italeri, Protar, Tamiya, Revell (Italeri)
F50 - Revell, Tamiya, Lee (Tamiya clone?)
F512M - none!
550 Maranello - none!
F355 - none!
F575 - none!
360 Modena Coupe - Revell, Tamiya
360 Modena Spyder - Revell, Tamiya
Enzo - Revell, Tamiya


I also think the 456GT was another missed opportunity. Beautiful car. Bburago's diecast is so-so. Rather have plastic.

ales
09-24-2003, 03:19 AM
Fujimi can reissue their Ferraris, but they told me that Mattel said no. I guess, Mattel might have a policy to issue the license to one plastic kit manufacturer per country.

When is the Ferrari-Mattel license expiring? IIRC, it should be reasonably soon. I just hope that it doesn't get extended, both for palstic kits' and 1/43 diecasts' sake.

Well... I like the 348. :dunno:

Oh, you do, don't you? ;)

larrygre
09-24-2003, 07:42 AM
Well... I like the 348. :dunno: Speaking of... I like Hasegawa's version. ;)

Jay, I promise, I will NEVER make another kit listing when I'm falling all over my keyboard!!!!!

Speaking of Hasegawa, I hope they do justice to the upcoming Miura. :)

larrygre
09-24-2003, 07:47 AM
Hello guys!

Please dont forget the classic ferrari guys! They're by all means the rarest & the most beautiful!

Do you guys remember
Ferrari p4 330 fujimi(complete with fujimi licence problem) , union & heller (it was one of the coollest ferrari ever!)
Ferrari 512S LM by Protar
Ferrari 275gtb by italeri
Ferrari 250lm by testors & academy
Ferrari 250gt California Spyder by italeri
Ferrari 250gto gunze, italeri & testors also protar
Ferrari Testarossa Spyder by italeri & Revell
Ferrari 250SWb by italeri, esci

I really missed the ferrari p4...It's very expensive in Ebay Now

Andrian aka Spymaker

I agree. And many of those late Italeri offerings, the 275s and the 250s, are just plain beautiful!

One thing that escapes me though - what about the 250 Berlinetta Lusso? Arguably one of the most beautiful Ferraris of all time, and no kit to speak of. :frown:

Think any mainstream kitmaker will ever do a pontoon-fendered Testa Rossa? Man, I sure HOPE so. In many peoples minds, that car IS Ferrari. I know for a fact Accurate Miniatures was planning one, but the idea died when Bob Johnson left AM.

larrygre
09-24-2003, 07:54 AM
> Larry
Fujimi made F355 GTB, GTS and Challenge.
The GTB has 348 interior and chassis, but they tooled the correct interior and chassis for the GTS, since interior is more visible. When the Challenge was issued, it had new interior and chassis.
I had to buy the Challenge, so that I can make a correct GTB, and I was going to use the Challenge wheel for something else, which I forgot now.

Fujimi can reissue their Ferraris, but they told me that Mattel said no. I guess, Mattel might have a policy to issue the license to one plastic kit manufacturer per country. But that was before IDEA was founded, so things might change. Just remember, that Fujimi "wants to" release their Ferrari kits, not that they don't.

Gomen nasai, Hiro san :redface:

Mattel is known in the US toy industry for strongarm business tactics. It would not surprise me at all if they were "rationing" licenses on behalf of Ferrari.

ZoomZoomMX-5
09-24-2003, 08:10 AM
Speaking of Hasegawa, I hope they do justice to the upcoming Miura. :)

Agreed. Thank goodness it's not Fujimi (the thought of their 917 being a "typical" Fujimi frightens me), we stand a good chance that this will be a decent kit, as Hasegawa's other vintage stuff, like the Cosmo Sport and Toyota 2000 GT are very nice, accurate kits :cool:

And I have a personal Miura backup plan in the form of Esci and Imai kits waiting to be kitbashed into one good Miura. Esci for much of the guts, Imai for the beautiful body. Hasegawa hopefully has all of that covered. :sunglasse I've been a Miura addict ever since I was a 10 year old, peering out over the package shelf of our '69 Fury III at this outrageous orange car riding behind us that sat no higher than the trunklid, and had eyelashes! And the "Joe Cool" guy driving it, and his supermodel-looking sweetheart sitting next to him looked awfully happy for people stuck behind a Plymouth sedan in Boston traffic!

Maybe Hasegawa can do a Pantera next... :wink: At least I've got the only good one so far in the Tilt/Marui Cannonball series.

My holy grails are falling out of the sky! Maybe a Maranello will be coming in plastic!

Also, Gunze had a 250 SWB for a short time. I've only ever seen one of the Italeri kits, hope I can find one for myself that's affordable.



One thing that escapes me though - what about the 250 Berlinetta Lusso? Arguably one of the most beautiful Ferraris of all time, and no kit to speak of.


Scale Kraft of S. Africa has a very nice resin Lusso issued recently. Sure wish it was available in styrene in greater #'s, but I'm working on some projects w/Guido these days supplying him some older obscure models to make castings from so I'm getting some of his resin pieces in trade (you should see his latest Alfa Romeo 8C 2900B LeMans, what a neat/weird car), and the Lusso is high on the list of what I'll be getting. :sunglasse

mel79
09-24-2003, 08:18 AM
I understand the licensing must be the main obstacle on the path for new Ferrari kits, but what's the reason for Tamiya (or even Revell of Germany!) to miss Porsche 996 turbo? I think that's one of the missing modern icons too along with the 550/575 Maranello. It's hard to believe that the sports car kits really sell so badly that it isn't profitable to manufacture such an important car as a kit.

-Mikko

360spider
09-24-2003, 09:31 AM
One thing that escapes me though - what about the 250 Berlinetta Lusso? Arguably one of the most beautiful Ferraris of all time, and no kit to speak of. :frown:

Think any mainstream kitmaker will ever do a pontoon-fendered Testa Rossa? Man, I sure HOPE so. In many peoples minds, that car IS Ferrari. I know for a fact Accurate Miniatures was planning one, but the idea died when Bob Johnson left AM.

Lusso is available in both resin and metal.
There is an absolutely beautiful curbside kit of Lusso by Scale Kraft, and there is also even more impressive full-engine all-metal kit of Lusso by Small Wheels/Western Models. Both are expensive and rare.

Hiro recently made a pontoon fendered TR (I built one about 2 months ago, its wonderful, but $200), Renaissance makes 57TR in 3 versions, its curbside, $100, but relatively accurate and detailed.

marci-blitz
09-24-2003, 10:40 AM
Hello guys!

Please dont forget the classic ferrari guys! They're by all means the rarest & the most beautiful!

Do you guys remember
Ferrari p4 330 fujimi(complete with fujimi licence problem) , union & heller (it was one of the coollest ferrari ever!)
Ferrari 512S LM by Protar
Ferrari 275gtb by italeri
Ferrari 250lm by testors & academy
Ferrari 250gt California Spyder by italeri
Ferrari 250gto gunze, italeri & testors also protar
Ferrari Testarossa Spyder by italeri & Revell
Ferrari 250SWb by italeri, esci

I really missed the ferrari p4...It's very expensive in Ebay Now

Andrian aka Spymaker


You can still get the Union 330P4 over here in Germany at nimpex.de

http://www.nimpex.de/cgi-bin/shop/front/shop_main.cgi?func=det&wkid=137756407324821&rub1=Autos&rub2=Street+Cars,Ferrari&artnr=238&pn=10&sort=&partnr=UN_MC14&all=

and that's not all, they also sell the 355GTS:

http://www.nimpex.de/cgi-bin/shop/front/shop_main.cgi?func=det&wkid=137756407324821&rub1=Autos&rub2=Street+Cars,Ferrari&artnr=240&pn=0&sort=0&partnr=FU_12454&all=

All the best!
Marc

Bangai-o
09-24-2003, 10:59 AM
http://italianhorses.net/New/550.htm

From 360Spider's site, here's the 550Gt they use in the American Gt champ.

360spider
09-24-2003, 11:16 AM
http://italianhorses.net/New/550.htm

From 360Spider's site, here's the 550Gt they use in the American Gt champ.
well, yeah, but that's different! I want the ROAD CAR!

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