96 gsr racing a 96 M3

my friend just bought a 96 M3 with just under 90K on it. i have a 96 GSR with 80K, neither of them have any mods. both of them are 5-speed. we drag raced and i beat him by about a car length, although we didn't go a full 1/4 mile. i consider myself an OK driver, and i thought he was a good driver. Im just wondering, is this on driver skill or is a 170 hp GSR really faster than a 240 hp M3. he claims that there was some traction control thing on that he can't turn off, but i donno. i drove his car after and it felt dam fast. plus, ive beat him at stop lights and shit too. i really wasnt expecting to beat him, but i wanted to know if i should have. what do u guys think?

he should have crushed you. obviously he sucks as driving. even w/ traction control a car full of people and a trunk full of bricks he should have beat you.

An M3 should dominate you anyway you slice it. even if he gave you a lead he should still stomp you. he probly just isn't used to the car yet if he just bought it. but even then he shouldn't have lost by a car length... unless he stalled or something.

yeah I have a friend that has a 97 m3 and it killed my friends car that runs 14.7. Something is wrong there.......

damn dude, he should have crushed you. he must not be that great of a driver

Yeah he must be the worse driver on earth he shoulda killed you with minimul effort :banghead:

just like everyone else said, he shouldve handed your ass to you. Maybe you should drive his car and he should drive yours and maybe that'll tell you a different story..

he could suck at driving, and he should still be able to beat you in his m3. m3s got 0-60 anywhere from 5.5 to 6 sec, the earlier ones were slightly faster. quarter mile is about 14 sec. the 95 has a 3.0L engine, and the ones above it(96-99) has the 3.2 for the e36 m3s, they all have the same hp though.

96 M3s have 3.2 liter engines with 240 hp, and are generally said to have a 6-6.5 0-60, ive heard mostly 6.4. quarter mile, high 14s. still should beat a GSR, but not TOO quick. it handles like a dream tho. well, we are switching cars this weekend and racing, so well see, maybe im a better driver than i thought.

maybe its a 325/328/330 w/ M3 logo hahah

96 M3s have 3.2 liter engines with 240 hp, and are generally said to have a 6-6.5 0-60, ive heard mostly 6.4. quarter mile, high 14s. still should beat a GSR, but not TOO quick. it handles like a dream tho. well, we are switching cars this weekend and racing, so well see, maybe im a better driver than i thought.

alright if the 96 m3 is that fast, then u might have a chance against it, the reason why u were able to beat him, plus he just got it right. so he doesnt know his car as well as u might know urs, he probably doesnt know how to take off on his car. if someone explained it to him, or told him how to do it, then maybe he might be quicker. its not like anyones gonna just get it right away, or just all of a sudden happen to know how to do it right, or drive it right. usually if u read about it, listened to someone, or u if u talk about car a lot, then your gonna have the edge on someone who doesnt. if hes slower after practicing, getting used to, and learning about how to drive it right, then you might be the better driver. but i dont think that time u put up is correct, or wherever u got it, they might of made a mistake. high 14s? you sure thats correct? i mean does it tell you if the car was an automatic or a manual? if u got it from car and driver, or some other well known mags, or books, or wherever, then i might believe u. but if its off some internet site with a bunch of times, or whatever, then im gonna have some doubts.

Bros, I dont know.


I have a 94 M3 Turbo with Neuspeed Hookup and I ate my neighbors 2003 Ferrari Spyder.

My 0-60 is 2.1
His is 4.0



I have raced many GSR before, and never lost. The normal GSR 0-60 is 7.1.


So for all thoose who think you can beat a M3, think again. The only stock car that can beat my M3 is a Honda S2000. Those are sweet cars!

Bros, I dont know.


I have a 94 M3 Turbo with Neuspeed Hookup and I ate my neighbors 2003 Ferrari Spyder.

My 0-60 is 2.1
His is 4.0



I have raced many GSR before, and never lost. The normal GSR 0-60 is 7.1.


So for all thoose who think you can beat a M3, think again. The only stock car that can beat my M3 is a Honda S2000. Those are sweet cars!

I call Bull Sh*t on that. There is no way your m3 is gong 0-60 in 2.1 sec. unless you got that thing mad build and then some. Are you sure you didn't type that wrong? I dont mean to flame you, but I find that pretty hard to believe.

Bros, I dont know.


I have a 94 M3 Turbo with Neuspeed Hookup and I ate my neighbors 2003 Ferrari Spyder.

My 0-60 is 2.1
His is 4.0



I have raced many GSR before, and never lost. The normal GSR 0-60 is 7.1.


So for all thoose who think you can beat a M3, think again. The only stock car that can beat my M3 is a Honda S2000. Those are sweet cars!

2.1? please. we are not stupid. the only car that quick is the new porsche GT in europe and if you do happen to have that M3 built so much as to run 2.1 0-60 then a stock s2000 will never touch it.


Direct quote from the newest C&D
keep in mind this is the Dinan M3 which has a few additions to it like higher flow exhaust and intake etc.

1/4 mile- 13.2@107
0-60- 4.6 sec

and this is the newest m3 with over 300hp not the older one with 240

So i doubt yours can accelerate 0-60 in 2.1 sec

Bros, I dont know.


I have a 94 M3 Turbo with Neuspeed Hookup and I ate my neighbors 2003 Ferrari Spyder.

My 0-60 is 2.1
His is 4.0



I have raced many GSR before, and never lost. The normal GSR 0-60 is 7.1.


So for all thoose who think you can beat a M3, think again. The only stock car that can beat my M3 is a Honda S2000. Those are sweet cars!

Why do you feel the need to lie? These forums are much more useful if you contribute factual information or experience. In other words, don't piss in your own swimming pool.

nah, dont doubt this guy, when i was at the track last time I saw a bone stock S2000 run a 5 second 1/4 mile, those are swet cars, I think that works to under a 2.1 0-60! :screwy: :loser:

Hey Neuspeed Guy, your obviously smoking something. And I agree with the guys, these forums can be very useful if you need good solid indformation.

First of all the e36 M3 came to us in 1995.
They did not make a 94 M3 in US.
And i never heard of a neuspeed turbo? What is that? A honda?
I'm fortunate enuff to have a 96 M3 that I imported from Europe when I moved here. My car has a stock of 321hp. My stock 0-60 was 4.7.
I have invested allot of money in Dinan and my new 0-60 is 4.0.

Any way to answer the original guys question, a GSR will never beat a M3. Even if the the M3 is automatic, it will beat the Acura.

So to answer your question.

I can be driving a GSR, and win a guy (idiot) with Ferrari Enzo if the guy doesnt know how to drive. But if you put the same drivers in the cars a M3 will win.

And another thing, for the guy who put the thing about a s2000 stock doing 0-60 in 2.1. He he he he he he he .

S2000 0-60 is more like 5.9 if you know how to drive it. Those jap cars are have a very weak and unstable torque. To get the full potential for the car you have to red line every gear. Where a BMW M3 or a Porsche 911 have very flat torque that is is equal in every rpm. I guess thats what makes germans germans and japs japs.

Just thought I would add this I have a june 2001 issue of road and track and the claim that the 2001 M3 coupe 5spd has 343 hp and an inline 6cyl o-60 is 4.7 0-100 is 11.6 and 1/4 is 13.3@106.8

just thought I would throw that out there for you guys

my bone stock m3 runs a 1/4 in high 5's

my bone stock m3 runs a 1/4 in high 5's

I would hope this is a typo:dunno:

wow this thread is stinks of BS

my bone stock m3 runs a 1/4 in high 5's
Oh yeah tough guy? My skateboard does the quartermile in the low 5's. Beat that.

And another thing, for the guy who put the thing about a s2000 stock doing 0-60 in 2.1. He he he he he he he .

S2000 0-60 is more like 5.9 if you know how to drive it. Those jap cars are have a very weak and unstable torque. To get the full potential for the car you have to red line every gear. Where a BMW M3 or a Porsche 911 have very flat torque that is is equal in every rpm. I guess thats what makes germans germans and japs japs.

He was joking. And don't worry, you get what you pay for right? KBB says 16,000 for a 96 M3.

Maybe he had a bad launch compared to yours...

I guess thats what makes germans germans and japs japs.

No, that just makes big engines big engines, and small engine small engines. :iceslolan