What should I do?

With my 240sx?

Mainly should I keep the KA24 and get the twin cam head *is this even possable?* and turbo it, OR should I do the SR20DET swap and tweek the motor.

Eather way I want the engine I get rebuilt with forged internals, and balanced so I can turn some serously high RPM.

The SR swap I can have done for 3,200...all the parts and labor included *by a shop I found in LA*

The cheepest I have seen a turbo setup for my KA is 3,000 and then you need labor.

So people, what should I do and why?

do the SR just for the sake of the reliability of the stock turbo charged engine. don't turbo an NA engine. besides i think you can get more power out of an SR for cheaper. i may be wrong. if not the SR than the CA for cheaper hp. i'm hoping that my ka24de will be gone after winter. (i will sell it to who ever wants it too).

I'm sorry if I'm not a fan of the KA and this is a biased opinion, but if you want a decent amount of power a CA or SR powerplant is a really good idea. I'm leaning more towards CA because of some reliability issues at higher power with the SR's rocker arms and the aluminum engine block which I'm not as fond of. Plus CA can be a lot cheaper...even quite a bit cheaper than the redtop SR.

Either way you go...SR and CA are badass for mid hp needs (250-400hp)

BUT

he is talking about completely rebuilding the engine anyway... so if he does turbo charge the KA he can fill the block with lower compression forged pistons and he would in essence have a "turbo" engine.

I'd go KA...

think about it this way.. you already start with 20% more displacement.. JUst don't get too caught up in building the engine for R's think more in terms of usable power band..

Try to obtain as much usable flat torqued power-band as possible...

id go with the sr swap, why? cause thats the motor it was suppose to come with, its lighter than a turboed ka, so the cars better balanced. the sr was designed to be a turbocharged and the ka wasnt, so im thinking that the sr is the better design? the ka will produce more torque and power overall, but the sr isnt that far behind, so id still go with the sr.

the sr was designed to be turbocharged, and the ka wasnt.

I swear you guys don't listen... and wonder why you are still slower than a girl..

If you really want to piss around with a full blown engine swap make it worth while with something in the RB or VQ line..

BTW not flaming here... just fuming at ignorance....

I swear you guys don't listen... and wonder why you are still slower than a girl..

oh yea?
girls dont know anything about cars.
i was being sarcastic....

by the way, i was still editing my post :).

RB25 is 40% larger than the CA...does that mean the engine is crap? Displacement isn't king.

Go with whatever you want TerminalVelocity...CA, SR, RB25 or KA-T are all great choices...check out each and decide which one you like most for looks, potential, and cost. They are all different and will all have different power characteristics; both stock and modified.

Displacement isn't king.




The only replacement for displacement is technology + experience...

and technology is far more costly than displacement...

although the CA is also a good powerplant to start from.

i like the sr swap idea in terms of reliability... it was designed as a turbo. on the other hand, look at tat's car. he put down 240hp AT THE WHEELS.... the sr puts about 189hp at the wheels. i think he spent 2 grand on the whole setup.

depends what you want to do..... the ka is a very durable engine, they have been known to get very high mileage (300k+), so that might not be a bad idea. just don't try to boost too much or the bottom end won't be able to sustain it.

you can get an sr tuned for 12's though.. there was a stock sr on ebay, ran a 12.9 at 100-odd something mph. all stock... just exhaust. if you know someone who can tune it that person is worth his/her weight in gold.

You can get 200whp from under 1grand.

The KA-T, if you do it right, can be the king of 240SX engines, on a dollar per hp basis. Ask SR20DETPower.

Also if you MUST be JDM dont even bother with SR...Do a CA swap :)

I swear you guys don't listen... and wonder why you are still slower than a girl..

If you really want to piss around with a full blown engine swap make it worth while with something in the RB or VQ line..

BTW not flaming here... just fuming at ignorance....

i don't think theres any ignorance involved. it just seems like common sense to go with the ca or sr since its an obvious swap. i think both of these engines (and the ka-t) can produce more than enough hp for most anyone in here. i don't think an rb is neccesary, it seem like the next big fad to me. don't get me wrong, an rb would kick ass. i say ca to be origional, i retract my origional comment about goin sr.

ok ok where to begin......


1.)"Mainly should I keep the KA24 and get the twin cam head *is this even possable?*"

NO

2.)"the sr was designed to be a turbocharged and the ka wasnt"

Actually, the KA handles boost well, makes more power then the SR psi for psi... and it has oil squirting pistons, a good thing on a turbo engine, btw only the DOHC has those pistons, although the SOHC isn't a bad engine to turbo either, stock it has higher comp pistons then the DOHC, this means u can run less boost before detonation, but you will still make same power or more with tuning because in essense those pistons are like a 20hp increase over the next ratio lower DOHC pistons......

3.)"CA, SR, RB25 or KA-T are all great choices...check out each and decide which one you like most for looks,"

stupidest thing I heard all day, what if the ugliest engine in the world was the best? would u buy it.... probably not from that statement lol.

4.)"there was a stock sr on ebay, ran a 12.9 at 100-odd something mph. all stock... just exhaust"

I doubt that... like I was telling you about your car mynismo.. that car probably has some drivetrain mods so it accomodates the power better...

5.)"Ask SR20DETPower"

yep you could get over 200rwhp for UNDER a grand if one was so inclined. I have seen someone else run 5psi of boost and get 220rwhp, the kicker is this was all on a stock MAF, stock KA injectors.... so thats even less money spent. Basically if you wanted to do it REALLY cheap, get a internal waistegate mani from REALNISSAN for 330 bucks, find yourself a used T3 turbo for under 300 bucks, this won't be a hard feat if you look around...., then you need a manual boost controller, this can be accomplished for 10 bucks lol. A stock nissan turbo already has the actuator, so by going internal waistegate you are saving yourself a good 300 bucks, 100 on the manifold, and about 220 for a TIAL wastegate. You need oil lines and flanges, this is about 50-60 bucks if you can weld yourself. Then you need some way to get the charged air to the throttle body, aka turbo plumbing, since were on a budget, Im sure this could be, excuse my french, nig rigged for under 50 bucks.

50+60+300+330+10= 740usd plus shipping hehe.... although setup properly, this would work fine at say 5psi, this is a budget system though. And if its tuned right and thats all you wanted you could run it like that for probably yearS......

stupidest thing I heard all day, what if the ugliest engine in the world was the best? would u buy it.... probably not from that statement lol.


CA, SR, RB25 or KA-T are all great choices...check out each and decide which one you like most for looks, potential, and cost.

you fucking moron...don't take my quote out of context...this is what I said and looks do matter...even in the engine bay. It's not rice to want a nice looking engine bay...it's rice to only want that.

Even the sound of the engine affects whether or not people may want to buy it. Hell that's a lot of the reason I want an RB25 over a CA...it's more throaty and it growls more. It doesn't sound like a tin can 4 cylinder and besides the fact that it can make better power than the CA with less strain on the engine.

It's your opinion that looks don't matter, but to many they are a slight factor in the car and engine they buy...SR looks better than CA IMO...but I would get a CA if I was getting either of those...

If you want to criticize something I say...make sure to criticize something I actually said... :loser:

you fucking moron...don't take my quote out of context...this is what I said and looks do matter...even in the engine bay. It's not rice to want a nice looking engine bay...it's rice to only want that.

Even the sound of the engine affects whether or not people may want to buy it. Hell that's a lot of the reason I want an RB25 over a CA...it's more throaty and it growls more. It doesn't sound like a tin can 4 cylinder and besides the fact that it can make better power than the CA with less strain on the engine.

It's your opinion that looks don't matter, but to many they are a slight factor in the car and engine they buy...SR looks better than CA IMO...but I would get a CA if I was getting either of those...

If you want to criticize something I say...make sure to criticize something I actually said... :loser:


Very Educated post. :screwy:

the ka might produce more power, but not enough for me to change my mind, it doesnt produce that much more. with the sr, the cars better balanced, and it has better aftermarket support.

uh ohhh, spaghetti o's

im thinkin bout the 1.8 litre turbo CA in my convertible...., minor breathing mods..... does anyone trust racinghard.com

s13GTR, you have yet to give me a price on the CA18DET

4.)"there was a stock sr on ebay, ran a 12.9 at 100-odd something mph. all stock... just exhaust"

I doubt that... like I was telling you about your car mynismo.. that car probably has some drivetrain mods so it accomodates the power better...

ok ok... i saved all of the info because i could almost BET MONEY that someone wasn't going to believe me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2429943153
12.9@114

i asked him a few questions via email, because i seriously wanted to buy this car but i was about a grand short at the time.


mark wrote:
is the engine stock? i cant believe you ran a 12.9 without other mods... if there are other mods please let me know what they are.

also, did you go to the track or use a gtech?


The engin does have stock internals, it has the front mount from CTR MOTORSPORTS and custom exhaust . We run the car on 15lbs of boost with 110 octane on a stock turbo .All the work was custom done at CTR MOTORSPORTS and they know their shit.The car is truley fast.Honestly they have alot of fast rides they build.The car was tested at the Roswell Dragway , it's a NHRA drag strip . If the car had some drag radials it should easily run mid 12s. Email back if you have anymore questions.

Mark; also remember that this is a blacktop Sr20det , it has more horsepower the the old redtops . We had it powder coated at Costum Coating to match the color we were going to paint the car , we did'nt snap until it was to late that it would look like a normal redtop.If you notice we also had them coat the radiator brackets and the hood prop rod.


mark wrote:
hi,

is the engine out of an s13? i thought the redtop's and blacktops out of those years had the same amount of horsepower. also did you upgrade any of the fuel lines? brakes?

also does the front bumper need to be painted? it looks like it doesnt' match the rest of the body. i have an s13 myself but i really need a faster one.

no i didnt upgrade the fuel or brake lines and the bumpers are faded but there the OGs to the car




ok, let the debate continue :biggrin:

this is why i stoped coming in here. there are waaay too much SR guys who doens't even really know about the KA and they started dissing it. well geniuses. the STOCK SR fully tuned on the dyno running max boost on the stock turbo and bolt ons only puts down 225 at the wheels. is that suppose to be alot of power for throwing around 6K into the car to add bolt ons and dyno time? and the stock SR puts down somethign closer to 160hp at the wheels. my car, i've spend 3K on it. stock internals.tuned, i put down 242 at wheels at one point. but i couldn't get that number to come out agian beucase my waste gate creeped to 9 1/2 lbs. and i'm not even running a big intercooler. for those that dont know, 242 hp at the wheels is about 295 crank hp. right now with no big front mount running only 9 psi of boost, i'm putting down just as much power as a 350Z. and i'm putting out a shit load more torque. i'm putting down around 310 ft lb at the crank of torque. if you want to get to the 230+ wheel hp range for a SR, you need to spend another few grand for a turbo upgrade because the tiny stock T25 doens't flow that much air on high boost. plus a SR is not much lighter then a KA because the SR got that heavy ass head.

P.S. here is a link to a pic of my dyno sheet. remember guys, only 3K, to get the same power out of an SR you need to spend atleast 5K.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t135945.html

i dont think there's any question that with the ka you can get more power for cheaper.... but how does the bottom end hold out?

i really don't know. on a stock bottom end, which engine can you get more hp out of?

The only replacement for displacement is technology + experience...

and technology is far more costly than displacement...

although the CA is also a good powerplant to start from.


good point, my moto is 'there is no replacement for displacement' I say go KA and rebuild it and turbo it, thats what I plan on doing as well, as soon as I can find a decent 91-93 240! and don't go high RPM with the KA its not made that way, keep it somewhat the same, stay in the best range for the engine.

ok the ka already weighs more than a sr20det by about 50lbs, but then u add turbo, and of course it adds more weight, so theres enough difference in weight that it matters to me. ka might produce more power, but not much more. to add to my reason why id prefer sr over the ka is that i prefer the higher rev of the sr.

well the weak link for the bottom end on the KA is the pistons. the crank on the KA is the strongest out of hte CA, and SR, and even the RB25. it still has forged rods, but the pistons are too high of a compression. if you lower the compression with a nice set of pistons and add a thicker head gasket, the block of hte KA is also stronger then the stock SR block. the stock SR block can handle 400 hp but not for a long time. at thta hp the block starts to oval. so you would need to sleeve the thing. where the KA doesn't need to be sleeved. the most power a KA has handled is almost 600 wheel hp. DUI's puts down 570 wheel hp. thats around 695 crank hp. and he run's 10's. there is no SR in the world that runs 10's. and they have these big tuners tunign SR's. when DUI's car is pretty much some small shop that got it to make that kind of power.

SR you can just add bolt-ons if you feel like it and get decent power and KA you have to add bolt-ons plus upgrade internals.

Just a matter of preference.

BTW anyone know what a CA will produce with a T28 as opposed to the stock T25? All the rest stock...

ok so the KA is about 50 lbs more, but seriously do you have to say and when you add the turbo thats even more weight, I mean seriously how much does a turbo weigh? plus the fact that KA cappabillities are a lot better, plus thats not much weight to be added in a car, but once you start upgrading internals and everything they will end up about the same, honestly you could just make body panels all out of carbon fiber or fiberglass and strip the interior if you worried about wieght that much

"SR you can just add bolt-ons if you feel like it and get decent power and KA you have to add bolt-ons plus upgrade internals." -Posted by klohiq

this is true in a way, you'd have to put more into a KA than an SR, but remember the KA comes with the car, the SR has to be bought which already costs more than you'll have to put into a KA, if you upgrade the KA internals it will cost $1,700 for parts and labor and yes I'm sure because I've checked around about it, and an SR will costs almost twice that for the engine and install, and even if you install it yourself you looking at like $800 more, and then if you add exhaust and intake and such to both the KA will be just as good if no better than the SR for about $800 less and be ready for anything you can do to it because of the nice new internals, which the KA still lacks


"if you lower the compression with a nice set of pistons and add a thicker head gasket, the block of hte KA is also stronger then the stock SR block. the stock SR block can handle 400 hp but not for a long time. at thta hp the block starts to oval. so you would need to sleeve the thing. where the KA doesn't need to be sleeved. the most power a KA has handled is almost 600 wheel hp." -Posted by TatII

exactly what I'm talking about, good info Tat


now seriously how can you make an arguement that an SR is better?



just because its not from Japan doesn't mean its not good

Dunno but.. weren't both motors from Japan? We just missed out on the SR? Anywho, assuming you put the same work (not money) into each engine, doesn't the SR come out on top with performance/reliability? Just askin.

im sure the turbo adds considerable amount of weight, and even if both engines were both the same, id still go with the sr. because of the reasons i mentioned earlier.

Dunno but.. weren't both motors from Japan? We just missed out on the SR? Anywho, assuming you put the same work (not money) into each engine, doesn't the SR come out on top with performance/reliability? Just askin.

assuming both engines were offered in a 240sx/200sx/Silvia then yes you would get more power for less money out of the SR..even if the KA has more potential due to it's iron block as opposed to the lighter and weaker aluminum that the SR uses. So it all depends on what you are looking for. CA, even though it has a smaller displacement and is quite a bit older, can offer very admirable performance and has an iron block.

Again, KA is cheaper since it's in this country, but the KA was never offered in Japan or Australia so there it's cheaper to keep the SR. Add to that fact that I'm sure a KA swap would be harder to get ahold of than keeping the SR since there is such a small demand for a KA in Japan.

Screw it i'm getting a 350 put into it :bananadie

coming back from the drift event just yesterday, i can honestly tell u that the KA is not meant for drifting, although some people got it to go around pretty nice, but then cutting short on the end of the counter steer.

the engine just doesnt haven enuff high rpm power to keep the wheels spinning. but it will get them spinning down low, but once ur half way into the drift, down low doesnt matter much.



this is just from what i saw. im sure brian and dorikin can vouch for what i just wrote, cause they were there with me.

coming back from the drift event just yesterday, i can honestly tell u that the KA is not meant for drifting, although some people got it to go around pretty nice, but then cutting short on the end of the counter steer.

the engine just doesnt haven enuff high rpm power to keep the wheels spinning. but it will get them spinning down low, but once ur half way into the drift, down low doesnt matter much.



this is just from what i saw. im sure brian and dorikin can vouch for what i just wrote, cause they were there with me.


Ok sure if you wanna be like Marco(insane driver with 400whp 11 sec 240SX who won), then you need the high revs big power. But there WAS a KAT who was pulling some great drifts.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesnt matter. The secret to winning drift comps is to stay close to the race line. Our friend placed 8th out of 17 with a 70hp corrola solely because he had the best lines.

get a set of cams, this will change the rebability of a KA a lot!.... and it always makes more torque then a SR mod for mod, torque is what spins wheels son.

like Dorikin said, its not so much power as it is technique.

just get a sr20det, comes as a turbo, more aftermarket parts.

ahh, the age old question. KA vs. SR vs. CA vs. RB

everyone has their preferance. you need to make your own. what do you want from the car? if you're gonna drag, then the RB is hands down the way to go. for auto-xing, the SR and CA are good choices. the bonus for the japanese engines is they can see A LOT of boost before their internals break.

my preferance is the KA mostly b/c i dont want a japanese engine in my car. if my oil sump breaks, i want to be able to go the Nissan dealer and order a new one. the KA has a lot of potential. all it needs is a turbo, some pistons (the rods are forged stock), fuel and ignition upgrades, some head porting, and more performance oriented cams and it's ahead of the pack.

just get a sr20det, comes as a turbo, more aftermarket parts.


Not everyone is a mindless sheep.

Did you know that the KA can actually withstand more boost. Iron block, deep girdles and skirts, low compression.

Oh, and Greddy makes a ton of crap for the KA now. And so does Yashio Factory, and hey, theyre JDM y0, so they must be good in your eyes.

I think KA's are faster mod for mod. The bigger displacement is a shoe in, and the iron block will take more power. I hope one day to fully exploit a KA24DE, I have yet to see one come even close to its potential. Im talking full engine rebuild and everything imaginable done to the internals, Forged pistons, lightweight rods, lightweight crankshaft, cams, head porting, lightweight valvetrain components. Then tune it up with a turbocharger and see what it can do, I bet you can easily get over 600hp with enough turbocharger.

dollar for hp the KA-T is definetly the better setup.

Especially the $1000 SPL system SR20DETPower has come up with(to which I added a couple items)

You should post that in the FAQ cuz its a useful resource,

actually, Ralph, Marco was the only guy in the top 3 with an SR. both of the S14's that placed under him were STOCK KA's with only minor exhaust/intake mods. the green S14 that placed second was drifting insanely ALL day long, even spinning out at times because he would put too much power into the drift, and the guy who came in third in the champagne S14 had some of the best amateur drifts i've ever seen.

out of the top 5 cars, only 2 (Marco and Mike) had SR's. the rest were fairly stock KA's. and the black S13 coupe that got INSANELY sideways on every corner and was usually sideways for the whole course, the guy that did the battle for 5th place with the other green S14? once again, stock KA with only minor exhaust/intake mods, yet he could drift the entire course, with his wheels spinning wildly and his hand out the window. he didn't make it through because of his race lines and entry speeds.


KA's are capable engines, definitley. if i get a 240 after my M30 (or as well as my M30 :evillol: ) then i'd opt to go SR simply because i've been a fan of it longer and know more about it.

Ya and its also in Super Street y0!

Haha jokes I know you love the motor, and so do I :smokin:

Better than an RB20 :icon16:

If I got a 240, id buy a ghetto one, with a ghetto KAT setup, then sell it for like, 6k and buy another one and do SR.

Variety is the spice of life :smokin:

Not everyone is a mindless sheep.

Did you know that the KA can actually withstand more boost. Iron block, deep girdles and skirts, low compression.

Oh, and Greddy makes a ton of crap for the KA now. And so does Yashio Factory, and hey, theyre JDM y0, so they must be good in your eyes

what? are you ok? KA can withstand more boost? omg are you serious? i didnt know yO, wait now what did u just say? it has iron block? no way, and i didnt know? i already know that, but thats after u change the pistons and stuff for the boost part right? i want an sr cause i dont have to mess with the internals to get a little over 300hp with good reliability. im not trying to make it a drag car, i would use my mr2 to drag. i still see more stuff for the sr20det than the ka24de though.

what? are you ok? KA can withstand more boost? omg are you serious? i didnt know yO, wait now what did u just say? it has iron block? no way, and i didnt know? i already know that, but thats after u change the pistons and stuff for the boost part right? i want an sr cause i dont have to mess with the internals to get a little over 300hp with good reliability. im not trying to make it a drag car, i would use my mr2 to drag. i still see more stuff for the sr20det than the ka24de though.

Come on. Are you running at fuckin 20psi or some shit?

TatII makes 240whp on like, 7psi of boost with 0 problems. Home made KAT for 3grand. Thats gonna kick a fuckin SR in the nuts. You can prob. dial the boost up to 8, maybe 10psi if your careful on a junkyard T3 or even a T3/T4.

Hell, strip the back out, and that will be like running 300whp with full interior.

Yes, its Iron block, yes it has deep skirts, and the engine is all around stonger. Yes if something goes wrong, you can get parts easier.

Fuck drag racing, some guy drifter a KA-T and did it well. Talk about torque, this thing could twist the damn frame.

You know why you see more stuff for the SR20. Cuz all you look at are trendy ass SS mags and shit. Open Turbo( a respectable magazine BTW) SCC, grassroots Motorsport, or *GASP* Option magazine. You know Yashhio factory has an EXTENSIVE line of JDM KA parts.

I suggest you get off deez nuts, cuz anyone knowledgable here will tell you a KAT can go toe to toe with an SR.

Its a 10 year old Sentra motor with a turbo boo fricken hoo.

Come on. Are you running at fuckin 20psi or some shit?

TatII makes 240whp on like, 7psi of boost with 0 problems. Home made KAT for 3grand. Thats gonna kick a fuckin SR in the nuts. You can prob. dial the boost up to 8, maybe 10psi if your careful on a junkyard T3 or even a T3/T4.

Hell, strip the back out, and that will be like running 300whp with full interior.

Yes, its Iron block, yes it has deep skirts, and the engine is all around stonger. Yes if something goes wrong, you can get parts easier.

Fuck drag racing, some guy drifter a KA-T and did it well. Talk about torque, this thing could twist the damn frame.

You know why you see more stuff for the SR20. Cuz all you look at are trendy ass SS mags and shit. Open Turbo( a respectable magazine BTW) SCC, grassroots Motorsport, or *GASP* Option magazine. You know Yashhio factory has an EXTENSIVE line of JDM KA parts.

I suggest you get off deez nuts, cuz anyone knowledgable here will tell you a KAT can go toe to toe with an SR.

Its a 10 year old Sentra motor with a turbo boo fricken hoo.

dude, chill out. u talk too much, and this is not worth fighting about, so u got ur opinions, i got mine ok? im sticking with the sr20det, thats just me.

Get off deez nuts immediately.

Get off deez nuts immediately.

what is your problem? im done with you.

"Its a 10 year old Sentra motor with a turbo boo fricken hoo."

LMFAO!!!!
:evillol:

exactly, don't get me wrong, I don't hate the Sr20, I think it is another one of Nissans great motors among MANY. Just over all the time I've researched on 240's...I've come to the realization the KA24 is a better motor for what I like to do.

And don't say you need power to drift, theres another thread about end of month bandwith special as the title, theres a black s13 coupe on there and I swear to god the guy said it was stock. That thing roasted the tires around the entire track making smoke, he was outdoing ls1 pontiac, 350z's... and lots of other shit. LIke I said there was one guy named Duy with a 500+hp KA on NoS, and that was not even to its full potential, there was A LOT more shit he could of done to the internals, not only to increase hp by itself, leave more room for added boost, and add to the over all revability(my new word) of the motor. race motor for race motor, a KA will make more power over any SR you can thinkk of it is built up the same just because of its displacement. Lets look at one simple fact Sr20de=140hp KA24De=155hp.... Even in naturally aspirated stock forms the KA has an advantage over the SR.

But don't get me wrong im not hating on the SR, just cause its weaker...

that would be also hating on the CA which I think is another great nissan motor among others.

I hope one day to get a 240sx and just make it into a race car. F all the street racing and drivability BS, im just going all out on it. its sole purpose will be to kick the living shit out of SR's, Viper, z06, porsche or any other poor soul who comes to the same venue as me.
:iceslolan

"Its a 10 year old Sentra motor with a turbo boo fricken hoo."

LMFAO!!!!
:evillol:

exactly, don't get me wrong, I don't hate the Sr20, I think it is another one of Nissans great motors among MANY. Just over all the time I've researched on 240's...I've come to the realization the KA24 is a better motor for what I like to do.

And don't say you need power to drift, theres another thread about end of month bandwith special as the title, theres a black s13 coupe on there and I swear to god the guy said it was stock. That thing roasted the tires around the entire track making smoke, he was outdoing ls1 pontiac, 350z's... and lots of other shit. LIke I said there was one guy named Duy with a 500+hp KA on NoS, and that was not even to its full potential, there was A LOT more shit he could of done to the internals, not only to increase hp by itself, leave more room for added boost, and add to the over all revability(my new word) of the motor. race motor for race motor, a KA will make more power over any SR you can thinkk of it is built up the same just because of its displacement. Lets look at one simple fact Sr20de=140hp KA24De=155hp.... Even in naturally aspirated stock forms the KA has an advantage over the SR.

But don't get me wrong im not hating on the SR, just cause its weaker...

that would be also hating on the CA which I think is another great nissan motor among others.

I hope one day to get a 240sx and just make it into a race car. F all the street racing and drivability BS, im just going all out on it. its sole purpose will be to kick the living shit out of SR's, Viper, z06, porsche or any other poor soul who comes to the same venue as me.
:iceslolan

Word. I love the SR. I REALLY love the CA, cuz as far as JDM motors go, its the KA of the bunch. Everyone hates it, and no one bothers with it, but it will rise from the dead to kick your ass.

But in the end the KA takes my choice. I know someone(if you guys rememeber Mike aka old_S13) who had all the KA mods you can get, except turbo and NOS, who beat a SPORT BIKE through the canyons. This guy would aboslutely roast any GSX, Civic etc. who came his way.

Ive talked to JSPEC SILEIGHTY, and a few others and am convinced the KAT will be my best option. Sure I wont be JDM, and I wont have the smoothness of a factory motor, but with the extra money, I will be able to have some upgrades I need.

Ideally, Im shooting for 250 whp at maximum, and then Ill strip the back out. Im aiming for an all round sports car, basically, what the 240(not a silvia or 180) could have been If Nissan decided to add a little spice to it.

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lol, "im sticking with the SR"

u dont even have the engine?

how do you stick to an engine?

yeah, ive changed what i used to want and such, at first, even before i had the 240, (when i had the 240Z), i wanted to turbo the KA, then i wanted rb26, then SR, and then rb25, now for my convertible, i want a CA18

im not sticking to an engine, if someoen throws a turbo KA at me, then im keeping it

i dont take pride in engines or anythign, so dont say "im sticking to an SR"

SR non turbos have like 145hp too

everything cost money


someone buy me a cadet

I have the best source for CA18DET engines.

www.worksyamaguchi.com

One of the owners used to own a CA powered Silvia(american living in Japan).

The prices may seem steep, but there all low mileage and they have the injectors re-done, and they do a bunch of other shit to the engine to clean it up.

ill check it out, but poepel keep teling me dont get a ca18det if its more than 800 cuz its not worth that much

anyways i was looking at a silvia fornt end

with non projector headlights, instead of center panel there is a grill, and he wants 900 with exchange of my fornt bumper and my fender

i dont think its a good deal, maybe if i didnt have to give him my bunper and fenders in exchange it would be good?

what do you guys think

lol, "im sticking with the SR"

u dont even have the engine?

how do you stick to an engine?

sure, but u know what i mean, thats the motor id get.

ill check it out, but poepel keep teling me dont get a ca18det if its more than 800 cuz its not worth that much

anyways i was looking at a silvia fornt end

with non projector headlights, instead of center panel there is a grill, and he wants 900 with exchange of my fornt bumper and my fender

i dont think its a good deal, maybe if i didnt have to give him my bunper and fenders in exchange it would be good?

what do you guys think

Thats usually true, but I KNOW these guys can give you the absolute best CA motor.

It comes from them with

Walbro 255LPH fuel pump
HKS Metal Flow intake kit
Works SPL straight pipe
Greddy Warning Meter boost gauge
ACT Heavy Duty Street clutch kit
HKS front pipe
NGK R plugs

That should bring you up to 200whp.

Give them a call or email, and ask about it.

will do, hopefully shipping is not much