High speed wheelies

how hard is it to do a high speed wheelie say like starting at 50 MPH to about 100 MPH, how much practice would it take etc... and on an r6 for example if you floor it at 50 will the front wheel come up no problem or do you have to help it lift, after you get it in the air how hard to balance, sorry for the questions it just seems like fun :iceslolan

On an R6 your gonna need some practice. You should be able to bounce it up. Not that I can, but I still need to rejet.

I'm just simply amazed at how a bike can do a wheelie rolling at 50 MPH when sport biked don't really make much torque. It's FU*KING amazing.

If you're going at 50 MPH and you do a wheelie...what RPM is the motor spinning at right before you do a wheelie?

50-100 will be second gear without doing a shifting wheelie. Second gear on a R6 will probably need a little bounce up (preload the front springs) and should come up very easy then. I know on the R1 it is ridiculously easy to get the front wheel up, and 1st gear wheelies are suicidal.

i dont think theres anyway my bike would do a wheelie in 2nd its hard enough sometimes in 1st but i dont use the clutch so thats probably it but i've heard different things about using a clutch to pop a wheelie anybody else got any thoughts on using the clutch to pop a wheelie??

so how exactly do you practice a high speed wheelie without fucking up your bike? and whats it like will i most likely get the hang of it quickly? :smokin:

After riding your bike for a long time, you will know where the point is when you accelerate where the front wheel will want to pop up. From there it is just practice (and new fork seals). and when oyu crash, new plastics.

It's all in the timing. I'm getting better but you have to learn it for yourself. I've read everything about 2nd and 3rd gear wheelies on R6's but I'm still trying to get the timing down. Just practice, practice, practice.

I don't do wheelies (I like to keep my forkseals in decent shape despite PA roads) but from what I understand listening to others.... it's all in the practice. There is a fine line, though. I had 2 friends go down this year doing stand-ups all because they went past the balance point. Thank God both are still alive (gear is a wonderful thing). Since I don't have personal experience, all I can say is what the "boys" say and they simply say it's practice...

I do pop clutch wheelies from 1st, and go through the gears while accelerating. I can't bounce the bike because it weights too much? I don't have a street bike, but I would think a street would be easier. My enduro is a little big. :uhoh:

What I do is run the bike at about 8 or 9 grand and then accelerate to about 11 or 12 grand ( in second gear about 50 - 60 mph) and preload the suspension and bring her up. No clutch at all. Should stand it right up but it takes a lot of practice. The twins are really easy to them on and obviosuly the more power the better when it comes to stand ups. They're pretty easy to control too. Just use your body weight to steer it around and balance it. As for using the clutch in first gear - I don't recomend it unless your bike is under 600cc. You can do it safely but it's just as easy to bring it up without if all you're wanting to do is ride a wheelie. If you want to do 12 oclocks then you'll need the clutch and prolly a few changes of underwear and a wheelie bar!

I don't know anything about motorcycles or street bikes but does these motorcycles have higher rpm bands?, I thought it would probably be the same rpm as a car maybe like up to 9,000 rpm or 10,000 rpm.

Many of the current sportbikes have redlines from 11500 - 14000.

My old ZX-6D ('92) (Don't laugh). Redlined at 13.5k as I recall.

I've always believed in the philosophy of learning to wheelie on a 125 or 250 cc dirtbike. It's easier to learn due to the flexibility of the engines and if/when you crash, you don't need $2,000 to replace your fairings. However, I'm pretty sure I've got an article somewhere at the house about wheelieing (SP?). I'll see if I can dig it out.

JM

ok, thanks for the information Dynwolf.

Yeah, would be great if you could find that Dynwolf :D

Sadly enough, my enduro redlines at about 8k I think, but I am not sure :\

Another reason why I want a sport bike!

i think in general v-twins have lower redline. my monster has 9k only... they have lots of torque no horse power.

Myne redlines at 15.5 baby. Beat that.

Yes Vtwins have tons of torque. Its pretty simple, 2 cylinders put out the torque..... I4s put out the horse.

From what i learned, which isnt much. Is that poping the clutch is alot harder on the bike then just rolling the throttle. I have a 94 cbr600f2 and i take it right to about 7g's thenlet off and snap it quick and it comes right up, but thats first. In second i'm having a hard time to get it up but it needs a well desrved tune up. BTW saturntangerine where in pa you from? Im from Johnstown about an hr from pittsburgh.