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willimo
09-07-2003, 06:42 PM
I'm currently (and very slowly due to class and work) building an S2000 with the SAS body kit, hood, and roof save for the front bumper. I'm going to detail it with the Sakatsu PE set and various other parts that I find for it. It's also going to be a full detail model, and will be fitted with the Sakatsu white metal kit. This kit is gorgeous, and relatively easy to assemble. I'd hope so, since it cost twice as much as the Tamiya kit! but seriously, I am amazed by it and wanted to show you guys how it turned out. If you're thinking about building an S2000, the Sakatsu motor is the only way to go!

Edit - except for the surpentine belt, the engine is completely stock to how it came out of the blister. I've yet to wire it and add the vacuum hoses and what not. That'll give you an idea of how nice this thing is.

Vyacheslav
09-07-2003, 06:45 PM
wow, the detail... :eek:

bah humbug
09-07-2003, 06:46 PM
I hope someone pics up the sakatsu motor for us, casts it in resin and sells it for a much lower price. :iceslolan

The Lambrusco Kid
09-07-2003, 06:53 PM
You should ask our friend from SAS what he thinks about that. :disappoin

I hope someone pics up the sakatsu motor for us, casts it in resin and sells it for a much lower price. :iceslolan

slk320
09-07-2003, 07:05 PM
Where can I find ANY saktsu detail kits/acces. etc...?

and yes, a resin repop would be VERY nice :iceslolan

bah humbug
09-07-2003, 07:22 PM
You should ask our friend from SAS what he thinks about that. :disappoin

No, I wouldn't do it to Chris.
But because this engine is sold at such a RIDICULOUS price IMHO I would do it, with a few modification so that I wouldn't get in trouble.

Maybe turbo charge it, change a little of the appearance, and leave the option of keaping it stock. :iceslolan

I guess it would be allowed,or more right, if you did some mods to it.

flyonthewall
09-07-2003, 07:23 PM
Aftermarket madness :sunglasse

njh
09-07-2003, 07:29 PM
Wow! The engine is so detailed.

The Lambrusco Kid
09-07-2003, 07:36 PM
I understand but when you start making money off other peoples work it kind of sucks.

Anyway I'm not the plastic police and it's not like I'm losing sleep over this :iceslolan :iceslolan :iceslolan .


EDIT : BTW, the engine looks really nice.

No, I wouldn't do it to Chris.
But because this engine is sold at such a RIDICULOUS price IMHO I would do it, with a few modification so that I wouldn't get in trouble.

Maybe turbo charge it, change a little of the appearance, and leave the option of keaping it stock. :iceslolan

I guess it would be allowed,or more right, if you did some mods to it.

RyanGiorgio
09-07-2003, 07:41 PM
:eek: Awesome engine. Very detailed.

scaleracecars
09-07-2003, 09:35 PM
Where can I find ANY saktsu detail kits/acces. etc...?

and yes, a resin repop would be VERY nice :iceslolan
Try Scale Race Cars (http://www.scaleracecars.com)
I have a couple of the S2000 detail sets instock plus others. No motor kit though
David

s2peed13
09-07-2003, 09:55 PM
I'm currently (and very slowly due to class and work) building an S2000 with the SAS body kit, hood, and roof save for the front bumper. I'm going to detail it with the Sakatsu PE set and various other parts that I find for it. It's also going to be a full detail model, and will be fitted with the Sakatsu white metal kit. This kit is gorgeous, and relatively easy to assemble. I'd hope so, since it cost twice as much as the Tamiya kit! but seriously, I am amazed by it and wanted to show you guys how it turned out. If you're thinking about building an S2000, the Sakatsu motor is the only way to go!

Edit - except for the surpentine belt, the engine is completely stock to how it came out of the blister. I've yet to wire it and add the vacuum hoses and what not. That'll give you an idea of how nice this thing is.


I have seen this engine sold in HLJ but cant find it anymore? any suggestion where I can buy it?

Thanks

Kasso
09-07-2003, 11:00 PM
I have seen this engine sold in HLJ but cant find it anymore? any suggestion where I can buy it?

Thanks


The dress up kit: http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?SAK3034

the engine: http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?SAK3307

willimo
09-07-2003, 11:44 PM
I shouldn't tell ya'll where I got it since I like it so much I want another to display on its own... and if I know you guys, ya'll'll snap them all up and when I go get the second one, it'll be sold out...

But I got it at www.RacingResin.com. They have some Sakatsu stuff, and all sorts of really cool and expensive resin kits. Friendly and pretty quick, too.

Well there goes my hope of getting engine #2....

hirofkd
09-08-2003, 12:31 AM
Expensive ? No way.
Ask yourself, how long do you need to earn $40? If you work at $5 per hour, you only need 8 hours. Now, can you scratchbuild the engine in only 8 hours? Do you even have skills? How about $150 resin kit? Scratchbuilding a decent model in 30 hours is almost impossible.

See my point? Money buys you goods and service, you can't provide yourself.

I'm sure the friend at SAS knows the value he asks in a form of money, and why he wouldn't copy someone else's.

s2peed13
09-08-2003, 12:42 AM
I shouldn't tell ya'll where I got it since I like it so much I want another to display on its own... and if I know you guys, ya'll'll snap them all up and when I go get the second one, it'll be sold out...

But I got it at www.RacingResin.com. They have some Sakatsu stuff, and all sorts of really cool and expensive resin kits. Friendly and pretty quick, too.

Well there goes my hope of getting engine #2....


I tried to go to the url provided but it doesnt work. maybe will try again later. but I found it on HLJ. thanks

Ragnarok043
09-08-2003, 02:33 AM
I hope someone pics up the sakatsu motor for us, casts it in resin and sells it for a much lower price. :iceslolan

im actually recasting them into resin, so that its easier to work with. i got most of the parts molded. ive thought about selling them, but afraid that i might get introuble. heres what ive done so far.

spoolin12
09-08-2003, 03:10 AM
Thats wicked!

Every tried molding body kits?

I would love a molded rb20 from the fujimi cefaro kit :licka:

Great work! :) :eek7:

Purpura Delujo
09-08-2003, 04:20 AM
Cool, never seen a S2000 model with an engine yet. Hope it all works out for you.

Ragnarok043
09-08-2003, 04:34 AM
the F20C was a project a started awhile ago, i havent touched it for some time. ill start it back as soon as i have time, i have considered doing the RB26DETT too. i havent done anybody kits yet, but i have been working on and off on a TRD 2000GT. right im more focused on building Mecha GK's and Figure GK's. but if i ever do finish recasting and decide to sell, ill definately let you guys know.

The Lambrusco Kid
09-08-2003, 07:23 AM
I'm sure the friend at SAS knows the value he asks in a form of money, and why he wouldn't copy someone else's.

Actually it's the other way around, if I remember right, FOTW found out that some bloke working in a hong kong hobby shop was recasting his products and selling them for profit.

Anyway I think I might get the 1600cc celica engine.

EMAXX
09-08-2003, 09:17 AM
Dang. That is very detailed and very nice.

willimo
09-09-2003, 01:41 AM
I wish I had thought of that, Ragnarok. It totally would have been worth investing time and money into resin to get a copy or two of that thing. Would have been a little easier to work with, too, though I do like the weight of the metal engine. Gives it a rather realistic weight distribution, which is cool I think.

And hirofkd: No, it's not expensive compared to the work it would have taken me to build myself, I agree. But in my world, where I barely make rent between buying books for class, eating, buying racing parts for my real car, and flying up to Boston to see my recently moved girlfriend, money is scarce for models (though, looking at my models, it doesn't seem it...) I've only recently gotten to the point where I can sink $75 or so into a model without batting an eye, and this S2000 has about $100 in it already. That, too me, is expensive, no matter how much of a deal I got on parts. Parts = deal = still expensive.

Here are a few more progress pics. The body still wears some rough Milliput around the SAS parts, and I've since opened the intake a little more and smoothed it out.

srlxy
09-09-2003, 01:45 AM
Willimo,

I am interested in the female figure you have in the background!
Is it of a scale of 1/24?
Need some of those.
Thanks!

Ragnarok043
09-09-2003, 04:43 AM
I wish I had thought of that, Ragnarok. It totally would have been worth investing time and money into resin to get a copy or two of that thing. Would have been a little easier to work with, too, though I do like the weight of the metal engine. Gives it a rather realistic weight distribution, which is cool I think.

And hirofkd: No, it's not expensive compared to the work it would have taken me to build myself, I agree. But in my world, where I barely make rent between buying books for class, eating, buying racing parts for my real car, and flying up to Boston to see my recently moved girlfriend, money is scarce for models (though, looking at my models, it doesn't seem it...) I've only recently gotten to the point where I can sink $75 or so into a model without batting an eye, and this S2000 has about $100 in it already. That, too me, is expensive, no matter how much of a deal I got on parts. Parts = deal = still expensive.

Here are a few more progress pics. The body still wears some rough Milliput around the SAS parts, and I've since opened the intake a little more and smoothed it out.

hah i knew that figure looked familar, ive seen them at work. theyre made by Presier, its the "Customizing Eve Figure Set" just to let you guys know Presier makes a figures in many scales including 1/24.

M4tt83
09-09-2003, 04:46 AM
That engine sure is detailed, but it looks a little rough. I don't know if I'll invest the money in that for my S2000.

supratuner
09-09-2003, 06:14 AM
Wow! The engine is so detailed.

i dont think ive seen an engine so detailed!

EMAXX
09-09-2003, 09:09 AM
The body looks really good too. Keep us posted.

agricus
09-09-2003, 09:30 AM
gorgeous engine I hope they had one for every Tamiya Car that doesn't have engine...but i guess that's just dream :iceslolan

willimo
09-09-2003, 06:35 PM
hah i knew that figure looked familar, ive seen them at work. theyre made by Presier, its the "Customizing Eve Figure Set" just to let you guys know Presier makes a figures in many scales including 1/24.

Yep, that's her. I was lucky enough to get ahold of her and six of her friends from a model train store in the area that was going out of business. It was on sale for 1/3 the price, otherwise they'd've been far too much for to justify paying. Now I wish I had gotten some other figures at the same time. I also wish I had a plan to clothe her.... Make her a little show model with a Mugen shirt and whatnot.... At least, that's the idea.

But anyway, look at the car... isn't the car cool?

blueboost
09-09-2003, 07:09 PM
how the hell am I going to get a SR20DET engine made in 1:24? I've been racking my brain for weeks over this and cannot think of how to get it done. I can't convince FOTW to do it either, he would love to but without diagrams and measurements he won't do it, and I can't find anything better then a FSM for him. I'd settle for the valve cover at this point, anyone? I would purchase if you can make it!! :grinno:

thizishkenny
09-09-2003, 07:24 PM
GOOD JOB MAN !!! THis is a cool project!! Never seen a s2000 with an engine yet. looking forward to more progess

hirofkd
09-10-2003, 01:34 AM
how the hell am I going to get a SR20DET engine made in 1:24? I would purchase if you can make it!! :grinno:
I have a complete overhaul manual of SR20. ;) (also 4a-g)
How much are you willing to pay?
I mean, seriously, how much do you guys think is appropriate for a complete engine kit, considering the fact that some v8 kits are $25+?

s2peed13
09-10-2003, 02:57 AM
I have a complete overhaul manual of SR20. ;) (also 4a-g)
How much are you willing to pay?
I mean, seriously, how much do you guys think is appropriate for a complete engine kit, considering the fact that some v8 kits are $25+?

Do you mean the engine for s2000? I want one!

flyonthewall
09-10-2003, 04:57 AM
how the hell am I going to get a SR20DET engine made in 1:24? I've been racking my brain for weeks over this and cannot think of how to get it done. I can't convince FOTW to do it either, he would love to but without diagrams and measurements he won't do it, and I can't find anything better then a FSM for him. I'd settle for the valve cover at this point, anyone? I would purchase if you can make it!! :grinno:

I never said never! :headshake I'm up for it but the project is still in the research stages.

KP60
09-10-2003, 05:20 AM
OH SHIT! :banghead:

hrmodeler
09-12-2003, 03:16 AM
It will be great to see it with engine.
Good work so far!:wink:

willimo
09-12-2003, 11:54 AM
Been doing some puttying and sanding, finally happy with most of it, though I think I may smooth it a little more around the hard top. Here it is wearing some primer. And don't worry, the hood isn't glued down (of course) but I've taped it on so I can get a feel for how it will look.

This is probably a really boring build-up, since it is so slow. But I just wanted some feedback off my front end, since you can really see it in primer. I have the intake cut into the bumper, and I drilled out the tow-hook cap also. Looking at Mugen pics, it looked like a light, but later it looked more like a chrome cap with "Mugen" etched in it. Does anyone know what, in fact, it is? The jury is still out on how I'm going to do it, I like the light better than the chrome cap and I might do it regardless. Can anyone shed some light on this for me....

HAHAHA!

mech0t0
09-12-2003, 08:33 PM
Nice progress! Back to your question, I think it is an air-intake, http://www.mugen-power.com/street/S2000/s2000.htm

mech0t0
09-12-2003, 08:53 PM
Oooops, I misread your question, sorry! For the purpose of the crome circle, I want to know too. :eek7:

Jay!
09-12-2003, 09:14 PM
On the S2000 race cars, that cap is in the location for the air jack fitting. Dunno what's usually behind it... Maybe they just dressed it up.

willimo
09-13-2003, 01:12 PM
I can only find a couple good pictures of it (here (http://www.s2000arizona.com/media/wall/mugen_modded_s2000.jpg) and here (http://www.zigzagasia.com/zza/cars/s2000/013/project.html)) and I think it's just a chrome dress-up part with Mugen printed on it. Nothing real definative, though, since I haven't been able to find a listing with a description for it anywhere.

So... I guess I'll go with the little single fog-lamp idea. Since I don't have any Mugen decals that small, plus I think it's cool. I will however, have to install a tow hook elsewhere...

slk320
09-13-2003, 01:28 PM
I have some tiny Mugen decals , inclduing the word Mugen and the Japanese characters (which is whats needed here I think.. they are black and silver... if you want I can send them. PM me.

willimo
09-26-2003, 04:14 PM
Did a little more work this week. Got the Interior pretty sorted. It looked fine but the seats look really bad in the pictures. I might have to pull them out and have another go, since I don't think touching them up will really do it. The seats have the Sakatsu photo-etch mesh in them, which I think looks trick (would look better if I had done a good job). There is also the Sakatsu turned aluminum shift knob and the H in the steering wheel is Sakatsu photo-etch. All out of their set for the S2000.

Next up: chassis. Then it will be time to mate the motor to the kit. Wish me luck!

Midnight Racer
09-26-2003, 05:30 PM
Great job on the interior.:bigthumb:

Sigmaman
09-27-2003, 03:38 AM
Its all lookin' mighty fine man.

speedthrill
09-27-2003, 07:05 AM
i love it!

willimo
09-30-2003, 11:11 PM
I need some advice at this point. I've removed a ton of material from the transmission tunnel to make room for the motor. Now, I have a couple options. One would be to throw a lot of styrene putty around the transmission tunnel and make a new one. I could also glue the interior in and use that as a base for putty and make it all nice and smooth and round. And lastly, I could just put in the interior and fill the gap between the bottom of the interior and the chassis with strip styrene and just fill the gaps with some putty. I'm leaning toward the last option, since it will be easiest and you won't be able to see the squareness of the new transmission tunnel with the engine and transmission in place.

Anyway, here are some pics to show you what I mean. The first is my cut chassis vs. a stock chassis, and the second one is why.

circuitR
09-30-2003, 11:35 PM
Hmmmmmm, I'd say when the interior part is glued on top, you wouldn't notice the hole that much. *shrug*

SonyMobile
10-01-2003, 07:57 PM
Hmmmmmm, I'd say when the interior part is glued on top, you wouldn't notice the hole that much. *shrug*
:iagree:

And I have to say, AMAZING, your attention to detail is imaculate, just stunning, great work, cant wait to see the finished product!

Hiroboy
10-02-2003, 02:24 AM
Coming along nicely, I want to see this finish as it's going to be very cool

willimo
10-16-2003, 11:50 PM
A little more progress, but not much. I've been mocking up the engine bay, built a good portion firewall, and cleaned up the engine bay a little around. I put in the front part of the engine bay, ie the front bar across the bay and around the front (where the hood hooks onto, in the front, see pics).

I'm still having a fitment problem here and there, but it fits! A couple more days fiddling with it and I should be able to paint, detail, and put the chassis together, with the engine. That will make me happy! Still have some issues with the top of the firewall, and with filling the gap between the roof and side windows.

Feedback still welcome!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/img/355S2000Mugen12.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/img/847S2000Mugen14.jpg

slk320
10-17-2003, 12:04 AM
WOW!! Awesome job.. I am still looking for those decals for you.. I still remember, but I have had a hard time locating crap around the house with all the renovation here.. :(

God|Zilla168
10-17-2003, 12:06 AM
is it me or does that engine look way too small for the car?

exhaust smoke
10-17-2003, 10:14 AM
Looking really good.

I've also got the Sakatsu engine and it's sweet! However, I think that when I'm going to install it into the S2K, I'm going to cut off the transmission and attach the block onto the moulded in detail on the chassis. It may be not using the full potential of the Sakatsu kit, but IMO, Sakatsu intended for the engine to be a model in itself aswell as a transkit. Also, it would save a lot of time not cutting the chassis and rebuilding the transmission recess.

Can't wait to see more progress though. :bigthumb:

BLU CIVIC
10-17-2003, 10:27 AM
is it me or does that engine look way too small for the car?

it does.....but i've never looked under the hood of a s2000

OPM
10-17-2003, 10:49 AM
just the right size:)

http://www.nopi.com/pf2002/ShowCars/Honda-Other/other/S2000-Silver-Engine.jpg

BLU CIVIC
10-17-2003, 11:04 AM
cool.....i think gotta remember itz an I4 not and I6 :lol:

jgmodelcars
10-17-2003, 12:16 PM
looks really good, like it came outta the box that... actually more realistic than that i think for the trans tunnel you should put on the interior tub first then add putty and styrene, seems best option. Keep up the good work.:iceslolan

Gainsbourg
10-17-2003, 12:54 PM
It’s coming great Willimo, amazing work so far.

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