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AF - A little Bit boring?


Purpura Delujo
09-03-2003, 02:50 AM
Just wondering if anyone else on ehre was finding AF a little boring lately in the model forum? It's just the same model being built most of the time, not much is very interesting and not much goes into alot of them. If you want to see some real killer models aswell as model skills goto the Layitlow model forum! There is heaps of really nice models being built on there and none are the same. Check it out at: The Lay it low model forums (http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=18)

I'm finding AF really boring again :uhoh:

chrismcgee
09-03-2003, 03:34 AM
i know what ya mean, but it is summer time kinda, i never feel all that willing to spend the sunny days making models would rather be cruising in my car and drinking in the pub.
come winter tho im gonna be making loads and loads of em, so lets wait for a bit of cold weather to keep people inside and hopefully by then we will have a new server so things can return to become a bit better

RallyRaider
09-03-2003, 03:41 AM
Yes not a lot of interesting stuff lately.
But why not build something interesting yourself!
IMHO that forum you linked to does not compare to AF at all.

P.S. is it just me or do others find those "desi ganksta" things annoying.

Asmenoth
09-03-2003, 04:02 AM
How is this forum boring? There are many types of cars here, from Rally cars, Nascar and street cars to lowriders and such. That site has nothing but lowriders and lowrider bicycles. hmmmm...mabye we should change the vernacular in which we type to mix it up, yo! *sigh* To each his own I suppose, but don't say this forum is boring, then direct us to a pretty much single subject site. The models there do look well done, but there is no variety.

:biggrin:

Purpura Delujo
09-03-2003, 04:30 AM
How is this forum boring? There are many types of cars here, from Rally cars, Nascar and street cars to lowriders and such. That site has nothing but lowriders and lowrider bicycles. hmmmm...mabye we should change the vernacular in which we type to mix it up, yo! *sigh* To each his own I suppose, but don't say this forum is boring, then direct us to a pretty much single subject site. The models there do look well done, but there is no variety.

:biggrin:

AF has variety? I don't see much variety in mainly seeing just Nissans, Hondas & Ferraris. At least LIL modellers put something more into their models, notice how many have adjustable suspension or even working suspension, cut doors and custom hinged boots etc etc with really nice paint jobs?
Don't like lowriders then just dont goto LIL. I provided that link so people could check it out, I just find that site more interesting then this one. AF has too many useless features now, like it takes me 2 minutes to load the forum page, the server is always busy, there isn't a very big spread of people who respect all types of cars either :disappoin
Look in the gallery and how many Skylines and Supras, typical 'tuner' cars like that are in there? Shitloads thats how many.
Layitlow mainly has lowrider models, because surprise surprise it's a lowrider site.
"Mabye we should change the vernacular in which we type to mix it up, yo!" All I have to say to that stupid remark is at least Lowriding has an interesting and in depth, meaningful culture and lifestyle behind it.

:shakehead :headshake :shakehead Only advantage I see in AF model forums over Lay it lows is that we have more smilies here at AF :screwy: :banghead:


:2cents:

bigfrit
09-03-2003, 04:40 AM
Yes not a lot of interesting stuff lately.
But why not build something interesting yourself!
IMHO that forum you linked to does not compare to AF at all.

P.S. is it just me or do others find those "desi ganksta" things annoying.


I agree wholeheartedly with what Phil just said, and off course, this blistering hot summer is also one of the main reasons why many people spend a bit of time off their desks, to enjoy themselves.

Luckily, winter is coming soon :banghead: .

I m pretty sure there are actually some awesome , killer models being built here, but in my case, I m just not putting them on anymore, not making any progress threads anymore, because of the server, which doesn't allow pic uploading anymore...

hopefully that will come to an end?

as for being boring, hell no, where else can you see this amount of skilled and talented builders, ready to help you out on every occasion?

As for the link you posted... :disappoin

and , to reply to RR's ps, yes I do, please , if you want to have them, make it smaller...


Olivier

egon_dude
09-03-2003, 04:45 AM
yeah i would agree about the comment that theres too many skylines, 350z's, civics and other jap cars, but if thats what people like building, then fair enough. Im into le mans cars and would love to see more of them built around here, but the kits are not as common as the jap cars so you dont see them as much.
But simple solution- if layitlow is better in your opinion, go to that site rather than slagging off the people who enjoy AF.

airforceone
09-03-2003, 04:46 AM
I think AF is a great site! True, thier are lots of ricers and racers but the site you link to is only lowriders. I have nothing against lowriders, one of my dream cars would be an 86 Monte Carlo with switches, but I'm also interested in ricers, racers, whatever. Trucks are my thing really. AF is good to me- :iceslolan Your site is one track, nothing but the same type of cars. I must disagree with you purpula delujo!

RallyRaider
09-03-2003, 04:49 AM
Yeah, you're kind of right Purpura Delujo, the LIL guys build a whole lot of different types of models. Trouble is they end up looking the same to me - tasteless!! Why is an Aussie into that jive talking low rider stuff anyway?

True the server situation here at AF is dire at the moment but you get what you pay for!

RallyRaider
09-03-2003, 04:53 AM
True, thier are lots of ricers and racers


No IMHO there are nowhere near enough racers! We need more racing and rallying cars! That is where it's at people :smooch:

bigfrit
09-03-2003, 04:57 AM
No IMHO there are nowhere near enough racers! We need more racing and rallying cars! That is where it's at people :smooch:
:nono: we need more classics !


(and in the second place racecars... ! ) :grinyes:

Olivier :evillol:

deedlit
09-03-2003, 05:03 AM
I don't think that Af is boring :nono:
It's right that it's often the same cars that are built. I agree with you on that point. But it's the same case in shows/contests , it's always the same cars shown. And it's like this in the rest of the world.
Don't be angry because some kits are popular.

There are some styles actually very popular in real life: rally, tuning, drifting, ... and many others.
And off course, it affects modeling.
It's why you'll see tons of Suby, Acuras, and Skylines here on AF.
AF is very generalistic and then are his threads.

Like you, those styles are not really what I like.
I like:
1st) old aircooled Vw's
2nd) all modern VW's
I don't see often threads here with old vw's. I'm the only one with a thread about a Karmann Ghia :rolleyes: and I continue browsing AF everyday.
I have my favourite forum and it's www.flat4ever.com. It's only about aircooled vw's. That's not a reason for me to criticise AF.

Some people have other interests. And they find it on other forums. You browse 'The Lay it low forum' because you like that style. So don't criticise AF.

Take AF for all the tips and techniques it can give. You'll never see on other forums such Faq's, How to's, ...

One last thing: remember that the upload function is unavailable. Some people certainly want to post but can't.
I have tons of pics from my latest contest to show and I wait till the function is available. It's also a reason because there are not new threads recently.

primera man
09-03-2003, 05:05 AM
AF is as much fun as you want it to be...no body is making you stay if you dont like it.
Why dont you make something different yourself if you think there is to much "boring" stuff here for you to look at.

If people injoy making these models...who cares....surely this is what modelling is all about..YOU MAKE WHAT YOU WANT, AND FOR YOURSELF !!

RallyRaider
09-03-2003, 05:06 AM
:nono: we need more classics !


(and in the second place racecars... ! ) :grinyes:

Olivier :evillol:


Second 'eh! Lets stick 'em on a race track or special stage and see who comes second :grinyes:

McLaren F1 versus a real F1!
Subie WRX versus a WRC!
Mercedes Gulwing versus a CLK-GTR!

All in good fun :sunglasse

Veyron
09-03-2003, 06:14 AM
I don't like lowriders, so about two minutes on Layitlow and I was bored silly. They all start looking alike after awhile, I'll stick with AF where there is a good variety.

Nothing is exciting 100% of the time.

Focus2000
09-03-2003, 06:54 AM
AF is just going through a quiet patch at the moment. As chrismcgee said, just wait until the colder weather comes and more people will leave the sunbeds and pub beer gardens and return to the hobby.

Here in the UK we don't get enough good weather, so when it comes we have to make the most of it :sunglasse As a result modeling tends to come second best.

Just be patient, I'm sure normal service will be resumed shortly.

tonioseven
09-03-2003, 08:35 AM
Instead of waiting for somebody else to build something I want to see, I build it myself. As stated earlier, "Nothing is exciting 100% of the time."

I myself have about 15 different projects going right now so when the server does return to normal, I will have plenty of stuff to post. I think I've proven that I build in a variety of styles. I'm even going to attempt a rally car! :22yikes:

malsheem
09-03-2003, 09:23 AM
Yeah, AF has been a bit low on the activity scale, but I think it's mostly because of the server issue. And during the summer people take their vacations and whatnot, so modeling time is sparse for most. I'm sure things will pick up soon. New server, hopefully. And there's quite a few new kit releases in the coming months, so that should provide lots of upcoming discussions.

AF has got good variety. Sure some cars or types of cars get built more, but that's what the members want to build, more power to them. And in terms of tips, FAQ's, and overall helpfulness, AF is unmatched. AF is completely responsible for my getting pulled back completely in the hobby. I've gone from having 2-3 kits in waiting to nearly 20, and I have stacks of wheels, other add-ons, PE's, etc, stuff which I never bought before. Oh, and the new airbrush and compressor. So I say, long live AF. It'll never be boring for me.

Purpura Delujo
09-03-2003, 04:02 PM
AF is as much fun as you want it to be...no body is making you stay if you dont like it.
Why dont you make something different yourself if you think there is to much "boring" stuff here for you to look at.

If people injoy making these models...who cares....surely this is what modelling is all about..YOU MAKE WHAT YOU WANT, AND FOR YOURSELF !!

Woah, I'm just saying that it's been a bit slow and boring lately. Alot of people seem to agree that seeing Supras and Skylines over and over again does get boring. I know it's my choice to be on here but I like it here just because of the general modelers atmosphere, no other board is big enough to provide that but because AF is so big it's a bit annoying when you get server busy messages. I also know that we need a new server and that we need to donate to get it, I can't donate because I have no credit card and I also have next to no money, I'd like to but I can't.
I build different things, a Camaro with an Oldsmobile engine etc etc with new style rims and things like that is different to the things that are commonly built on here. I try to provide a few models that are completely different to what 'everyone' has like a boring R34 Skyline.
I'm not as stupid as you think but I am smart enough to state an opinion that is widely felt in different ways by different people, boring people like being bored, so they keep building the same as everyone else.

Anyway I hope I haven't caused any means of harm Pman. Again I also state that I provided the Lay it low link so that people can see some different models, we don't get stuff like that on here, come on use your head :banghead:

On a different note I never said AF was boring just seeign the same thing over and over and over again is boring. The whole idea of modeling to me is to be creative, the same bloody model with the same SAS bodykit and huge spoiler is the same as all the others. Hiroboy builds his models very different to other peoples and that is great, why can't we get some individuality on here? Not another red Enzo :banghead: Or blue Skyline :banghead: Or silver S2000 :banghead: or Silverado with a lift kit :banghead:

Once again, :2cents:

rx7king
09-03-2003, 04:20 PM
How is this forum boring? There are many types of cars here, from Rally cars, Nascar and street cars to lowriders and such. That site has nothing but lowriders and lowrider bicycles. hmmmm...mabye we should change the vernacular in which we type to mix it up, yo! *sigh* To each his own I suppose, but don't say this forum is boring, then direct us to a pretty much single subject site. The models there do look well done, but there is no variety.

:biggrin:
i agree, af has everything, not borign ar all

pettercardoso
09-03-2003, 05:24 PM
I have to agree with Purpura...almost everyone has built a Skyline (well, I haven't. at least not yet!! :naughty: ) and posted it!! You have to admit that it gets a little boring ..:D But on the other hand, people build kits for their own pleasure, at least that's what I do. And I have to say that AF is the one and only responsible for bringing me to this hobby! Oh, and another thing...That LIL site you showed us...I don't mean to be rude or mean or anything like that, but THAT is a boring site...:D :loser: :2cents:

NortherntoucH
09-03-2003, 06:12 PM
I got the same opinion as Purpura... AFs been gettin reeeaaaalll boring and reeeaaaalll slow lately... all people build is skylines, and civics, and wrxs. It's all ricers and racers. I'm on Lay it Low as well.. and it keeps me interested for a lot longer than this site. Maybe its just because I like lowriders, (and am just starting to build one), or i dont know. Ah well, I'ma probably stay on both of these sites... Lay it Lows my favorite though :sunglasse

But that's just my two cent. :2cents:

008
09-03-2003, 07:54 PM
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The whole idea of modeling to me is to be creative, the same bloody model with the same SAS bodykit and huge spoiler is the same as all the others. Hiroboy builds his models very different to other peoples and that is great, why can't we get some individuality on here? Not another red Enzo :banghead: Or blue Skyline :banghead: Or silver S2000 :banghead: or Silverado with a lift kit :banghead:

Once again, :2cents:

I hear you, man. I skip all the threads that seem like they get posted at least every other day. But like you said, AF itself isn't boring. The chit chat, the tips, and my favorite the progress pics, etc is all fun but when it comes down to cars it's mostly the same cookie-cutter cars with a few exceptions here and there. "Hey look, my new Civic has 18-inch Zanga X wheels, not like my old one with 18-inch Zanga Z wheels!" *yawn* Although if one generalizes AF as being mostly bodykits and spoilers, one can also say the LIL guys are all about adding 20" Dayton wires to their mom's hand-me-down minivan, which I'm sure it isn't. But hey, to each his/her own, right? If they had fun building it, that's all that matters.

dag65
09-04-2003, 12:55 AM
Just wondering if anyone else on ehre was finding AF a little boring lately in the model forum? It's just the same model being built most of the time, not much is very interesting and not much goes into alot of them. If you want to see some real killer models aswell as model skills goto the Layitlow model forum! There is heaps of really nice models being built on there and none are the same. Check it out at: The Lay it low model forums (http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=18)

I'm finding AF really boring again :uhoh:

Yeah at times , but I find the people here are about modelling and not their egos. And most of the cars built here are really clean and well executed. Over on Lay it Low I see alot of great ideas and poor execution. Your cars excluded of course! LOL! Anyhow just my 2 cents

dag65
09-04-2003, 01:03 AM
can't we get some individuality on here? Not another red Enzo :banghead: Or blue Skyline :banghead: Or silver S2000 :banghead: or Silverado with a lift kit :banghead:


You have not looked very far. There are threads here on race cars, hot rods, muscle cars.................

Purpura Delujo
09-04-2003, 01:05 AM
All I be saying is that I personally don't find AF very very interesting any more, seen too many bloody skylines and shit like that. Women are screwed up to! I got to go I am too high for this shit :eek7:

ales
09-04-2003, 01:24 AM
Well, if it's not good enough for you - feel free to click this. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/login.php?do=logout). No one is forcing you to be here. Instead of whigning how boring this forum is why don't you show off more of your models.

As for individuality - I'll build a red Enzo because i don't have a red Enzo in my collection, I'll build a blue Skyline because i don't have a blue Skyine in my collection. There's a [point when trying to be individual becomes too conventional. I enjoy looking at all models that are well executed. You don't like building Civics and Skylines? Who's making you to? Build something else and show it here. Most of you whigning in this thread haven't been here long enough, and I'm yet to see a single model by some of you.

Honoturtle
09-04-2003, 03:27 AM
i know what ya mean, but it is summer time kinda, i never feel all that willing to spend the sunny days making models would rather be cruising in my car and drinking in the pub.
come winter tho im gonna be making loads and loads of em, so lets wait for a bit of cold weather to keep people inside and hopefully by then we will have a new server so things can return to become a bit better
No wonder it takes me forever to finish a kit!! It never gets too cold here, in Hawai'i!!

To me, AF seems fine. I don't post as much (but still read) since school has started, and my models aren't top priority for me either, it always seems to end up being school work... ugh... A good bunch of the builders here goes to school, so this is probably one of the things that's slowing the activity of the Modeling forum, but I'm sure once everyone gets buckeled down with their classes, I'm sure there will be more posts.

RallyRaider
09-04-2003, 04:13 AM
Reckon somebody should head over to LIL and post a "This Forum is Boring" thread there too. And please to the guys who keep using the phrase "ricers and racers", cut it out! The two do not belong in the same sentence. :)

Purpura Delujo
09-04-2003, 04:55 AM
Well, if it's not good enough for you - feel free to click this. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/login.php?do=logout). No one is forcing you to be here. Instead of whigning how boring this forum is why don't you show off more of your models.

As for individuality - I'll build a red Enzo because i don't have a red Enzo in my collection, I'll build a blue Skyline because i don't have a blue Skyine in my collection. There's a [point when trying to be individual becomes too conventional. I enjoy looking at all models that are well executed. You don't like building Civics and Skylines? Who's making you to? Build something else and show it here. Most of you whigning in this thread haven't been here long enough, and I'm yet to see a single model by some of you.


You've never liked any of my opinions have you? I thought you looked like a pretty cool guy when I first got on AF but you are turning out the complete opposite to me.


This thread has turned into a damn warzone because some of you can't seem to get over how great you think AF is, I wasn't asking for a bloody text based war. I was just stating my opinion, didn't think so many people would be so negative. Holy crap, I've only stayed on here for the past few months because I've met some really nice people which aren't stuck up (Thankyou Antonio for being such a bloody champion!)

I thought that you were encouraged to share your opinions, but with hostility like this it's no wonder that people don't do it alot.

primera man
09-04-2003, 05:00 AM
I dont think it has turned into a war zone...its people giving there veiws on the subject.
Dont take it to heart !!

deedlit
09-04-2003, 05:03 AM
The discussion becomes really bad :disappoin

I think the thread should be locked. :2cents:

Purpura Delujo
09-04-2003, 05:57 AM
I dont think it has turned into a war zone...its people giving there veiws on the subject.
Dont take it to heart !!

I was giving my view aswell. It seems that my view is not wanted because the main response I got was to "Log out". Go ahead, close the thread if you like and I'll delete it, I see no purpose of even stating opinions of mine on here anymore. I respect everyone and everything and I don't hate on anyone but doesn't look like it's that towards me. My favourite saying is "Peace, Unity, Respect" I've stuck by that for along time now, always will to. Maybe some people should take that into account next time the decide to "give me their opinions".

It's up to you Pman, close it and I will delete this or keep it open if you think stating opinions on here is valued. Think it through, I know I have :uhoh:
By the way Pman you are also another legend admin on these boards, you are much respected and looked up to by alot of people, including me. Just thought I'd add that in as another part of sharing my opinion.

Purpura Delujo
09-04-2003, 06:10 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid77/p2d68dcdeb498b77ebf583e9428ae4f2a/fb2fe1c1.jpg.orig.jpg

Well, this just proves a fact doesn't it :disappoin

You always have to wonder why some people are entitled to an opinion, they don't seem to be able to use their mind to state it.

ales
09-04-2003, 12:59 PM
You've never liked any of my opinions have you?

Do I know you? :confused: I don't remember ever disagreeing with you or even having a conversation with you.

And it's OK for you to give your opinion, but not for anyone else who has a different one to yours? :dunno: Grow up, will you? And please stop telling everyone what to build and how to build it - we make models for ourselves, just like, hopefully, you do, it's a hobby, not a job. What did you expect? That all of us head to that other forum? Or all start building lowriders? I gave you three valid suggestions - stop whigning and make AF not so boring by posting your models, don't build models that you don't want to build, and if AF's not good enough - feel free to leave. Surely you don't expect u to fall in line and start begging you to stay, or even take us to lil with you :rolleyes:

Purpura Delujo
09-04-2003, 03:41 PM
Do I know you? :confused: I don't remember ever disagreeing with you or even having a conversation with you.

And it's OK for you to give your opinion, but not for anyone else who has a different one to yours? :dunno: Grow up, will you? And please stop telling everyone what to build and how to build it - we make models for ourselves, just like, hopefully, you do, it's a hobby, not a job. What did you expect? That all of us head to that other forum? Or all start building lowriders? I gave you three valid suggestions - stop whigning and make AF not so boring by posting your models, don't build models that you don't want to build, and if AF's not good enough - feel free to leave. Surely you don't expect u to fall in line and start begging you to stay, or even take us to lil with you :rolleyes:

I don't have a major grudge against you at all so don't get the wrong idea please, Alex.
You cant remember the person who was once asking you about Estonia, where my grand father came from. That was me, ever since he died when I was 4 I've wanted to meet someone on the internet I could talk to about Estonia, that's why I contacted you last year when I first joined.
Grow up? I still am I'm only 16, I'm not telling people how to build anything or what to build, I might not be as "wise" as someone older then me but I can understand that it is a hobby, that's why I don't spend all my money on it.
I post some of my models which never seems to interest many people because they probably just see my name on the thread and go, oh well. There you go telling me I can leave, I know I can and I'va already stated why I don't wish to, there are some really nice people on here. I don't think anyone would beg me to stay at all I never expected that at all.
I didn't expect people to goto Lay It Low and start building lowriders either. I was providing some fellow modellers with a different type of model that we seem to never experience here. So shoot me if I was telling people to start building anything. Very friendly place on AF if you get referred to as a loser for posting opinions.

ales
09-04-2003, 06:59 PM
Well, that's fair enough, I'm all for showing off as many different kinds of models and introducing new communities, but you could have done it without actually slating this forum - I think that's what ticked some, including me, off.

As for the loser - I've never used the loser smiley as I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where it'd be appropriate. Neither do I remember calling anyon a loser on this board, ever. And neither do I have a grudge about you. :)

Purpura Delujo
09-05-2003, 04:50 AM
I'm glad we got that sorted then. I will try my hardest to introduce you all to some different models. I'm even thinking about doing a WRX and an S2000, but as very different versions though :iceslolan

dag65
09-05-2003, 01:54 PM
check this one out! Alittle something to break the boredom.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t133446.html
I thought of you on this one, the lighting and so on is excellent, and great amterial for a low, the LIL guys would be nuts over this one.
Hey how about doing an S2000 in your lowrider style?

supramike420
09-05-2003, 05:02 PM
AF has variety? I don't see much variety in mainly seeing just Nissans, Hondas & Ferraris.

AF is still good for beginners, but i know wut u mean. There r a LOT of supercars and sportcars. I dont care for either. i like to see the integras or supras and street cars. And i hate the people that put up a post about one shitty car that is stock except for a decal :werd: I think people should put more time into models. u see all these people who have 150 models and all of them are shit. Y dont u guys get 10 good models. Spend more than a week on it man. People dont like to see a bunch of shit. Id rather see 2 good cars over 100 shit cars.

Veyron
09-05-2003, 05:47 PM
Some points about AF:

1. The fact is, page views are way more on Supra's, 350Z's or any Tuner etc. because they are obviously most popular here. If that bores you then chances are it's just not worth your while to be here, don't complain about boredom. There is something to appreciate about every model on here if you keep an open mind about it.

2. A modeler should build the model to please him/herself, not the AF viewer, so you shouldn't throw color or subject ideas at the modeler's here. If someone wants an idea, they'll ask for opinions and suggestions. So complaining that, 'you guys are building the same thing over and over, and you never paint them the color that I want you to', doesn't cut it. If you want to see a car in a unique color YOU build it.

3. One thing that might help is, if everyone that posts a progress or finished thread puts the kind of car or model it is in the description. This way one can look at the description and choose whether or not it intertests them. Most people here do a good job of it, there is room for improvement.

4. There are all levels of skill and interest represented here, that is a good thing. There are no shitty models here, just different skill levels, it's wrong to pin that label on a model that someone has done their best on just because it doesn't meet your approval. In short, a lot of this whole thread is more about attitude than anything else, so look in the mirror and figure it out. AF is not here for YOU, AF was here, YOU showed up. :)

ex-r
09-05-2003, 06:37 PM
AF is as much fun as you want it to be...no body is making you stay if you dont like it.
Why dont you make something different yourself if you think there is to much "boring" stuff here for you to look at.

If people injoy making these models...who cares....surely this is what modelling is all about..YOU MAKE WHAT YOU WANT, AND FOR YOURSELF !!

:iagree: Too true Pman. To each his own. Build that lowrider and post pictures here. I am sure the members here would show you the same courtesy as they do the other types of model cars. Just enjoy the hobby. We all build model cars. That is all that counts. :) My :2cents:

Purpura Delujo
09-05-2003, 08:49 PM
Thanks for the link Dag65!

To everyone else I know AF was here before me, obviously. But maybe I just thought there would be more variety in what is just about the only model forum on the internet. At least this thread has provided the oportunity for alot of people to voice opinions, I no longer car about that idiot that called me a loser because I posted this thread. That's his opinion, he doesn't want to know what mine is about him :biggrin:

OrangeR
09-05-2003, 10:10 PM
My god is this boring!!!!

43 post and no tips, no pics, any reports on ANY kind of car or style of car, no advices and most important any track of plastic, resin, metal or even wood that reflects the man, women, passion, culture, history etc. behind it.

That's what's totally boring...IMHO :disappoin

tonioseven
09-05-2003, 10:55 PM
My god is this boring!!!!

43 post and no tips, no pics, any reports on ANY kind of car or style of car, no advices and most important any track of plastic, resin, metal or even wood that reflects the man, women, passion, culture, history etc. behind it.

That's what's totally boring...IMHO :disappoin
I agree!!! I'm not bored, I've painted 4 models since this thread started and finished 2 kits as well. :lol2:

moe171
09-05-2003, 11:54 PM
Peace, Unity, Respect

You say this is what you live by but if you lose one you lose all. What I mean is you started a thread which broke the Unity(Unity of loyal AF members and you trying to change that by sending them elsewhere). Now a war is started which breaks the peace. And without peace you have no respect.

I am not trying to start the war back up as it seems this thread is starting to get the Peace, Unity and Respect back. Just putting in my :2cents:

cyclone1410
09-06-2003, 02:12 AM
As much as this thread has appeared to get up the nose of people eveyone is entitled to their opinion. Consequently I fully support its creation.

I, personally, don't agree that overall AF is boring. It is, like almost everything in life, what you make it. If you want more exciting cars made well just start the ball rolling yourselves. If you want to see more racers then make some. Stimulate peoples thoughts by posting new ideas for different subjects.

I do think though that at times there can be too much of the same thing for my taste however that doesn't make it unexciting or boring. It just means you have to dig a little deeper to find the interesting bits.

Anyway I have vented and feel a little better. My glass is now empty so I better go and make my fifth scotch.

That's my :2cents:

Purpura Delujo
09-06-2003, 02:48 AM
Peace, Unity, Respect

You say this is what you live by but if you lose one you lose all. What I mean is you started a thread which broke the Unity(Unity of loyal AF members and you trying to change that by sending them elsewhere). Now a war is started which breaks the peace. And without peace you have no respect.

I am not trying to start the war back up as it seems this thread is starting to get the Peace, Unity and Respect back. Just putting in my :2cents:

I don't think that starting a free to show your opinions thread is breaking any unity. I was never trying to send them elsewhere, I said they could check out Lay it Low if they wanted to see some models that we don't see very often, I think that's creating unity, not breaking it. Everyone has been contributing "2 cents" in here just about so you can't say that has anything to do with respect or peace. I don't think it was ever lost here, I hope it never is, those 3 words are some of the most important words in the english language I think.

OrangeR - If you find people posting opinions boring then just don't come into threads like this one, it's that simple. I don't find reading other peoples opinions boring, it's very interesting if you read them all. The pictures and tips are found in other threads, not this one.

OrangeR
09-06-2003, 10:35 AM
OrangeR - If you find people posting opinions boring then just don't come into threads like this one, it's that simple. I don't find reading other peoples opinions boring, it's very interesting if you read them all. The pictures and tips are found in other threads, not this one.

mmm... you know what??? You're totally wrigth. I'll take what seems to be YOUR advice and never come back to things that I just don't like 100 percent. No more reason to argue so I'll just say good by... HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!! Isn't that the same advice other people tried to give you???

Come on How do you try to get respect when you don't DO what you PREACH???

Any way I'm still taking your advice and please "No te lo tomes tan en serio" I understand you know a little spanish wrigth. Let's keep it like that and dont argue about this anymore.

Hope to see some models from you later.

rx7king
09-06-2003, 10:44 AM
i think the only thing getting boring, is this thread :uhoh:

egon_dude
09-06-2003, 11:45 AM
Well i have finally got round to looking at layitlow.com, and i have to say that i think the models here at AF are of a much higher standard, and to me, more interesting. All the models i saw at layitlow had some good ideas, but were not carried out with nearly as much class as some of the models i have seen here- maybe its because i have never seen a lowrider in real life so its all a bit alien to me. Here in the UK its pretty common to see tuned up Imprezas and civics, theres even a garage at the bottom of my road that specializes in import cars and always has a few skylines on the forecourt. Although i do not biuld these sort of cars, i can relate to them in the real world. I like GT racing cars, and due to the fact i live within cycling distance of Brands Hatch racing circuit, i have seen many racing cars in the real. This real world experience is a major part of modelling, as we are trying to make a tiny but perfect representation of the world around us. If we have no experience of an object, how can we model it well? Many of the members of AF are european, where the lowriding scene is pretty non existent, but GT racing, european supercars, drifting, and tuned jap cars are all pretty common. So thats what you get being modelled here.
So if you like lowriders, fair enough, but i personally think AF is more interesting. :2cents:

cyclone1410
09-06-2003, 06:59 PM
Well i have finally got round to looking at layitlow.com, and i have to say that i think the models here at AF are of a much higher standard, and to me, more interesting. All the models i saw at layitlow had some good ideas, but were not carried out with nearly as much class as some of the models i have seen here- maybe its because i have never seen a lowrider in real life so its all a bit alien to me. Here in the UK its pretty common to see tuned up Imprezas and civics, theres even a garage at the bottom of my road that specializes in import cars and always has a few skylines on the forecourt. Although i do not biuld these sort of cars, i can relate to them in the real world. I like GT racing cars, and due to the fact i live within cycling distance of Brands Hatch racing circuit, i have seen many racing cars in the real. This real world experience is a major part of modelling, as we are trying to make a tiny but perfect representation of the world around us. If we have no experience of an object, how can we model it well? Many of the members of AF are european, where the lowriding scene is pretty non existent, but GT racing, european supercars, drifting, and tuned jap cars are all pretty common. So thats what you get being modelled here.
So if you like lowriders, fair enough, but i personally think AF is more interesting. :2cents:


Well said. The same applies to here in Australia. As I said before it is what you make it.

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