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2jz-Gte swap?


2jz-Gte
09-02-2003, 11:04 PM
I was wondering if a 2jz-Gte would be able fit in a 97-98 240sx, inline-6 just like the rb26dett or rb25det, anyone heard of anyone doing this kind of swap? The engine would be easier to obtain here in the U.S. but I don't know of anyone swapping that engine in.

Ace$nyper
09-02-2003, 11:34 PM
well the RB26DET is a 2.6 and the 2zj-gte is 3.0 right? so it be longer i assume and the RB26DET is one heck of a job to wedge in to start so i doubt it be worth it. But ANYTHING can be done with $$$

mynismo
09-02-2003, 11:41 PM
yes, i've seen it done. and the people stripped down the car to 2200 lbs.

it was a freakin beast.... ran 8's. i will post again when i find it

mynismo
09-02-2003, 11:45 PM
cant find the one i'm looking for, but one is here

http://members.shaw.ca/kfgroup/240sx_-_2jz.htm

spindrift187
09-03-2003, 01:14 AM
Yea that definitely sounds like a pain in the ass for the average Joe. Sounds like a hurting bank account as well

S13GTR
09-03-2003, 02:16 AM
cant find the one i'm looking for, but one is here

http://members.shaw.ca/kfgroup/240sx_-_2jz.htm
Sorry for the off subject but heres where I come in handy. They say get your own rb26dett and then pay an extra 8k to 9k just for them to instal it when I am advertizing 8k or 9k swap price including the motor. Please dont sucker to them guys.

mynismo
09-03-2003, 04:25 PM
yea a few of the things they said are shady, including not being able to build up an rb26dett to over 1000hp. i have heard of a skyline having 1300hp, so i know it's possible.

Soyo
09-03-2003, 06:09 PM
DO IT! it can be done, and how many people can say hey have a 2jz gte in a 240sx? plus just think, it comes with more horsepower than a RB26DETT, for a couple grand more, and would be super easy to find parts for, but it would just be plain sweet to have, I say go for it if your bank account is big

J SPEC SilEighty
09-03-2003, 08:08 PM
definately possible. look at victor broushet's car. thats the one mynismo was talking about. he originally had a 2jz in there. approx 900 hp. ran mid 8's with it. he swapped it out for a rb26 though due to new drag rules stating that the engine must be from the same car manufacturer. enjoy :)

http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/240_step1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/240_step2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/2jz10.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/2jz7.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/240supra 34.jpg

enecks
09-04-2003, 12:27 AM
does anybody else think that's kinda ugly? the drag wheels/tires are just so....camaro. and the ground clearance...oy.

spindrift187
09-04-2003, 12:34 AM
O dear God I hope he drops it, I know it's a drag car but...DAMN!

stealthj
09-04-2003, 04:47 AM
lol, the thing must be fast though!,

but kmon now, some new coilovers wouldent hurt

lol, i guess he has a drag-setup

mynismo
09-04-2003, 10:13 AM
he has to have ground clearance when he wheelie's.... :naughty:

i think that's the one i've seen. i highly doubt someone else would mod it up to 8's...

but it doesn't come with more hp than a rb26... they both have 280hp. actually the rb26 comes with about 310-320hp, they had to lie and say it was 280hp for laws when building the car. so the rb26 has a better base.

if i were to choose between the two i'd definately take the rb26 setup.

klohiq
09-04-2003, 12:03 PM
definately possible. look at victor broushet's car. thats the one mynismo was talking about. he originally had a 2jz in there. approx 900 hp. ran mid 8's with it. he swapped it out for a rb26 though due to new drag rules stating that the engine must be from the same car manufacturer. enjoy :)

http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/240_step1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/240_step2.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/2jz10.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/2jz7.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spoolins14/240supra 34.jpg

what a waste of a 240 :shakehead

mynismo
09-04-2003, 03:15 PM
what a waste of a 240 :shakehead
are you on crack?

get out of here. it's a freakin super 240. i would have rather seen him do that to an rb26 but it's still awesome.

Suislide
09-04-2003, 04:53 PM
it's not a "waste" of a 240. i don't view it as very nice at all either, but that's simply because i'm a drift/track racing fan and don't like drag racing at all. i'm guessing Klohiq is in that same boat. to each his own, right?

Dart Izumi Jr. used to drive a 1JZ powered S14 in the D1, which is the exact same size. it can be done, but it'll obviousley cost you a good bucket load of money.

klohiq
09-04-2003, 05:00 PM
Maybe waste wasn't the best word, but when I look at that car I imagine someday it will be tossed aside and no one will want it because of the extensive modification. The owner will most likely move on and not care about the rarity and great handling potential of the car. Even track enthusiasts do this, they take any car that is capable and modify the hell of it then find something better (and usually even more rare) and dispose of it.

A 240 doesn't deserve that fate, but I guess that's not for me to decide.

mynismo
09-04-2003, 05:42 PM
ok, i get you now. i know what you mean... seeing 240's not in "correct" use is kinda painful.

i seen an 89-90 red 240 in the junkyard.. stick. no tires, no windshield, front end screwed, rear end screwed, doors locked. i was about to cry :frown:

hey, it happens. that car is still awesome, who cares if it's just for drag. you can say the same thing about that jap guy's 7 sec hks drag 240.

Dorikin
09-04-2003, 05:51 PM
does anybody else think that's kinda ugly? the drag wheels/tires are just so....camaro. and the ground clearance...oy.


Mad props fro proper usage of oy...

I dont see a point to a 2JZ swap unless you have bajillions to pay for it, and it probably will not be streetable, due to the extensive modifications that will be needed to the body and frame to make it fit. Plan on this being a strictly drag car. No way it can carve corners as well as a 4-cyl.

With that said;I know I oft say get a Honda, but in this case, I honestly feel that it can be done for MUCH cheaper if you wanna drag race.

*Summons Honda knowledge powers* Get a Civic, or CRX, get a B20, port-polish, new pistons, valve springs, con-rods, valves, close the deck, turbo it, and engine managment. Strip the bastard out, get a spool, and you should be able to run 10s.

I donno if JG engine dynamics is still around, but theres lotsa good engine builders out there.

mynismo
09-04-2003, 05:54 PM
and you should be able to run 10s.
10's, but not 8's

:cwm27:

Dorikin
09-04-2003, 05:56 PM
Youre gonna spend a fraction of the money, and 10s>most cars.

Whatever

mynismo
09-04-2003, 06:01 PM
i wasn't saying anything about a 10sec car... honda's are deadly fast if you mod them. but you were comparing a honda to a supra/rb26..... there is no comparison.

only supra's can run 8's (out of normal street cars, that is) and still be somewhat legal and streetable.

klohiq
09-04-2003, 06:16 PM
only supra's can run 8's (out of normal street cars, that is) and still be somewhat legal and streetable.

Only supras??? I'm pretty sure a GTR can pull an 8 since they get way better traction and they weigh about the same. MR2's can also run pretty fast and still be streetable...not sure about 8 second range, but definitely high 9s and low 10s. An RX7 might be able to do a really low time and still driveable around town, but again I'm not really sure how low.

http://www.mr2ownersclub.com/quartermile/

Best on there is a 10.2 though...which is still pretty impressive.

I'm pretty sure some domestics can do a fast quarter while still being able to drive on the street too.

Dorikin
09-04-2003, 06:43 PM
Me and Brian have vids of a stock Snowmobile run 10s with 130mph trap speed :iceslolan

R.W.240
09-04-2003, 08:15 PM
I love full drag 2JZs (anyone seen the Bullish Solaras) no engine in the world sounds cooler besides the F1s

anyhoo i really dont see any reason to do this OS Giken makes a $$$ 3.0 RB $$$ so why bother. i bet the 2JZ is quite a bit heavier too.

J SPEC SilEighty
09-04-2003, 08:35 PM
(anyone seen the Bullish Solaras)

those things are beasts. they were at the nopi show here in virginia about a month ago. here's a couple pics i took of them. look at the size of that turbo!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
they ran a best of 6.81 @ 203 that day... wow

note: your going to need to copy and paste the link to see the full size pic since imagestation is gay

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p19b79b5165beab8c0a97d0afc47a683b/fb5c9942.jpg.orig.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p65a4e587e54067cb739d4ff43d573940/fb5c98f8.jpg.orig.jpg

RalphCare
09-04-2003, 08:39 PM
they had to lie and say it was 280hp for laws when building the car

its called the Gentleman's Agreement.

and this law has applyed to pretty much all manufacturers.

notice how ALL the flagship jap models ONLY have 280 hp.

276 really.

the NSX-R for example, with a 3.2, which flys, is only 280? uhhh. no.

they do it for all cars.. so its possible that the 2jz has more than 280 as well. which i believe it does.

RalphCare
09-04-2003, 08:49 PM
only supra's can run 8's (out of normal street cars, that is) and still be somewhat legal and streetable.

only supras? 8's?

i dun think u understand what it takes to make an 8 second car. and to make it streetable. pshhhhhawww!!!

5.0 stangs, LS and LT1's, GTR's can all do 8's if tuned properly, and be SOMEWHAT streetable.

take for example, the car on www.exvitermini.com

look at all the work they had to do to make a 8 second Drag GTR33.

the lowest i ever heard of a supra on the street is 9.5's

and believe me, with that much power under the hood, and so much wheelspin, to get into the 8's from a 9.5 isnt just raw power, its about another 5 g's of work. throught the whole car , not just the engine.

stealthj
09-04-2003, 11:33 PM
the blitZ skyline goes to 60 from 0 in 3 seconds, i wonder the 1/4 m time?

klohiq
09-04-2003, 11:50 PM
mclaren f1 does 0-60 in 3.2 and it does an 11-11.5 1/4

even though they aren't the same car...at least it gives a little bit of an idea

latenightrider
09-05-2003, 03:19 AM
I think a 2JZ swap into a 240 would be dumb thats just mu opinion...yes it would cost an ass load of money...two, it better be just a drag car cause that car aint gonna handle corners at high speeds for shazbot or even low speeds for that matter lol j/k...three if you want a drag car a bigger engine isnt always the answer...even 4 bangers can go below 10's...theres a full drag 240sx...USING a KA24DE!!!! (its got one big ass turbo :))that runs i think 10's right now but is expected to run high 8's...the ten or nine i dont remember i got a pic somewhere, was there first run of the car...they still had bugs...and yes of course we all know sr20's arnt drag engines....and yes skylines are damn fast and yes with that car you can run 8's :)...i think i've seen a high 7..too....need to find all my sources sometime and post to show...anywho...my saying is...boo 2JZ swap....a pat on the back for keeping your dreams of the KA motor alive...a smile and a nod for an RB26 swap and a giant hug for doing a common thing and getting a SR20 swap...drifting baby...oh yeeeuhhhh:)

MDiGiamm
09-06-2003, 04:32 PM
mynismo - The U.S. MKiV Supras had 320 hp. I don't what you are talking about 280 for. That was J Spec.

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