Help a newbie - priming
D.J.
08-31-2003, 10:08 AM
First: yes ive read the faq, but i still have problems. Ive sprayed a couple of layers but i can already see it will be (is) orange peely :mad: If i spray at a great distance it makes peel and if i go closer too much primer gets on. Now its drying, here´s a pic. What should i do?
http://freeweb.siol.net/vmurko/bad.JPG
http://freeweb.siol.net/vmurko/bad.JPG
EMAXX
08-31-2003, 10:23 AM
You just have to get some practice and have it at the right distance. You should strip it down and redo it.
D.J.
08-31-2003, 10:38 AM
Damn, easy to say, very hard to do (re-do that is). :loser:
egon_dude
08-31-2003, 11:46 AM
keep on spraying a few more light coats, as long as you cant see the base plastic you should be ok. then get some fine (about 1200-1500 grit) wet and dry paper- the dark grey stuff, and sand out all of the orange peel using plenty of water. Dont worry if you rub though to the plastic, just touch it up with the spray and carefully rub it down again. Its usually worth waiting a week for the primer to harden up before you sand it, as then theres less chance of rubbing through it. Dont worry- most primers go a bit orange peely. Well mine do anyway, but you can still get excellent finishes.
Good luck, matt.
Good luck, matt.
D.J.
08-31-2003, 12:06 PM
OK, thanx ill try that. Ive done second time and its a little better - except i rubbed parts of plastic that i shouldnt :screwy:
Now ill wait a week and then sand away the orange peel.
Now ill wait a week and then sand away the orange peel.
Tea
08-31-2003, 03:12 PM
Ya wet sanding is an option
in future to prevent this, may I suggest you to spray closer, but faster
so less primer gets on but the distance is close enough not to have orange peels
at least thats how I do it =)
in future to prevent this, may I suggest you to spray closer, but faster
so less primer gets on but the distance is close enough not to have orange peels
at least thats how I do it =)
D.J.
08-31-2003, 04:06 PM
Any tips for how to paint? Same as primer?
Tea
08-31-2003, 04:36 PM
warm and shake can well beforehand.
give it a hard spray on somewhere unimportant after shaking
never start or stop on the body
start elsewhere and move the can to the body, and stop elsewhere
spray close and fast, in mulitple mist coats, each coat being 10 mins or so apart
last few coats being wet ones.
store somewhere dust-free and allow to dry
after it dries, rub it with 2000 grit to get rid of orange peel and unevenness (that a word ?)
wash and allow to dry
shoot 1 or 2 wet coats
by now the car should be ok
then clearcoating, polishing and waxing is another story.
just my :2cents:
give it a hard spray on somewhere unimportant after shaking
never start or stop on the body
start elsewhere and move the can to the body, and stop elsewhere
spray close and fast, in mulitple mist coats, each coat being 10 mins or so apart
last few coats being wet ones.
store somewhere dust-free and allow to dry
after it dries, rub it with 2000 grit to get rid of orange peel and unevenness (that a word ?)
wash and allow to dry
shoot 1 or 2 wet coats
by now the car should be ok
then clearcoating, polishing and waxing is another story.
just my :2cents:
D.J.
08-31-2003, 04:38 PM
OK, whats a wet coat? :banghead:
Thanx 100 times :iceslolan
Thanx 100 times :iceslolan
primera man
09-01-2003, 04:34 AM
OK, whats a wet coat? :banghead:
Thanx 100 times :iceslolan
Do mist coats first which are sprayed at a distance. The wet coat is painted closer and slower so you get a heavy coat on
Thanx 100 times :iceslolan
Do mist coats first which are sprayed at a distance. The wet coat is painted closer and slower so you get a heavy coat on
D.J.
09-01-2003, 10:27 AM
One more (stupid) question: must i prime all the parts or can i paint the interior without the primer. And what exactly primer does?
Tanx! :loser:
Tanx! :loser:
Forhod
09-01-2003, 10:40 AM
Primer " holds " the paint to the plastic. I guess priming the interior is not always neccessary, it is all up to you. But the body is neccessary to me :)
Tea
09-01-2003, 03:11 PM
One more (stupid) question: must i prime all the parts or can i paint the interior without the primer. And what exactly primer does?
Tanx! :loser:
depends, if you are painting something light over dark-based colored plastic (ie, flat red over black plastic) then primer will help greatly
primer provides a good rough ground for the paint layers to grab on, also it covers the dark base color so you dun have too much difficulty covering it with paint
Tanx! :loser:
depends, if you are painting something light over dark-based colored plastic (ie, flat red over black plastic) then primer will help greatly
primer provides a good rough ground for the paint layers to grab on, also it covers the dark base color so you dun have too much difficulty covering it with paint
primera man
09-01-2003, 04:20 PM
I only do the bodies to cut down on the cost as primer is getting very expensive to buy.
D.J.
09-02-2003, 09:22 AM
One more thing. Did i screw up when i bought this type of paint? Guess ill have trouble cleaning the paintbrush :crying:
http://freeweb.siol.net/vmurko/colors.JPG
http://freeweb.siol.net/vmurko/colors.JPG
egon_dude
09-02-2003, 10:01 AM
the revell paints? no u didnt screw up, they're perfect for model making, they're the same as humbrol enamels which is what i use for my models. Better than tamiya acrylics IMO. Clean your brushes in white spirit or turpentine substitute. Dont use water- it will make a huge mess! :eek7:
D.J.
09-02-2003, 10:11 AM
Well thats a relief!! :grinyes: And i surely wont use water :grinno:
Thanx!! :icon16:
Thanx!! :icon16:
D.J.
09-03-2003, 08:39 AM
Oh and can i use it right the way it is or should i dilute it first? :uhoh:
egon_dude
09-03-2003, 10:04 AM
as the paint is new it should be absolutely fine to brush on straight out of the tin. You can brush it out more than acrylics without it peeling off as it doesnt dry as quickly. Make sure you get some decent brushes- i cant emphasise that point enough!
When your painting, only dip the tip of the brush in the paint, as otherwise you will just flood the area with paint and loose all the detail.
Just give it a go though, you will soon get the hang of it! :licka:
When your painting, only dip the tip of the brush in the paint, as otherwise you will just flood the area with paint and loose all the detail.
Just give it a go though, you will soon get the hang of it! :licka:
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